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Mary the Prophetess

11-04-2006, 10:06 PM

<DIV>Here is the log, (cleaned up and edited for readability), of my conversation with the Prophetess of Growth, and some interesting pieces of history and lore:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"Many things have changed since I first walked upon this land, but so do all things transform with the strength of Growth." You say, "Hail, Eva Corunno'thes" You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"Who are you?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"My name is Eva Corunno'thes. I have emerged from the sheltering forests of my goddess and have come to the Shattered Lands on the verge of a New Dawn. I am the voice of the Mother of All and it is my honored duty to begin the gathering and cultivation of the faithful of Growth." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"Who is the Mother of All?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"The Mother of All is a name for our sacred lady, Tunare, Goddess of Life and Growth. She resides upon the Plane of Growth and watches over all of her creations. The time is soon at hand when she will awaken from her long slumber to once again bless her faithful followers." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"Why was she sleeping?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"It may be that only the gods themselves know why their influence and presence was taken from this world. The encroachment upon the Planes of Power by mortals seeking power and fortune during the turbulent Age of Turmoil no doubt contributed to the reasons." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"Were you around during the Age of Turmoil?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"Yes, young one. These old eyes have seen much of this world, and goddess preserve, I hope to see much more. " You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"Can you tell me more about your life?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"Ah, child. That tale would be long in telling and not serve the present needs of my goddess nor further my intended duty. For now, my friend, those stories will have to wait for another time and another place. " You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"What is Growth?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"Growth is the power of creation, it is the force that maintains and empowers all the living things you see around you. Without Growth our world would be a dusty stone of endless rock, incapable of creating or supporting life." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"I wish to prove my faith." Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"There are many ways to prove your faith in the Mother of All. She has guided us through many long Ages, both past and present, even when the Ages collide." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"In what way?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"Do you recall the Fall of Cauldron Hollow?" You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"I don't remember the details." Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"Cauldron Hollow was a secret shipping depot of the Teir'Dal empire hidden in Nektulos Forest. When the depot was discovered, it was destroyed in a battle known as the Fall of Cauldron Hollow. This battle was the last stand of the defending Dragoons of Gul'Thex." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"What happened?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"The Kithicor Rangers rode into the forest at a time when most of the dark elf forces were in Faydwer fighting the War of the Fay. That war gave the Kithicor Rangers and their allies an opportunity to destroy the Teir'Dal troops in Nektulos Forest, destroying one strategic location after another." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"Were the Kithicor Rangers successful?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"The Kithicor Rangers had...help...from an unexpected quarter. The Dragoons were loyal to King Naythox Thex, who was in Faydwer leading his troops in battle. Queen Cristanos Thex took the opportunity to seize control of the empire while the King was away." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"And the Dragoons were expecting reinforcements, which she did not send." Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"Yes, and so the Kithicor Rangers were able to defeat the Dragoons. The final conflict between the Kithicor Rangers and the Gul'Thex Dragoons took place at Cauldron Hollow." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"What happened there?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"The Dragoon's Commander N'Farre and his troops had been involved in covert missions, but eventually he led them back to Cauldron Hollow. There, he joined with Prince Talvus Thex, who had arrived from the War of the Fay with something that needed to be returned to the Library of K'Lorn. The document, long held by the Koada'Dal, was sacred to all Teir'Dal-- half of the Scroll of H'dar. " You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"The Scroll of H'dar?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"The Scroll of H'Dar is ancient and planar in origin. It is half of the incantation used to create a channel directly with the god of Hate, Innoruuk. Long ago, the Koada'Dal acquired half of the incantation solely to keep the Teir'Dal from communing directly with the god of Hate." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"Where was the other half?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"We don't know for sure, but we believe it was held in Neriak. By taking Felwithe, the Teir'Dal had managed to retrieve the half held by the Koada'Dal. Their goal was to bring both halves together and commune directly with Innoruuk." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"What happened?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"Queen Cristanos sent an assassin to slay her husband and son. However, we believe Prince Talvus managed to escape the assassin and bring the reclaimed half of the Scroll to Cauldron Hollow. During the chaos of the battle, the Scroll was lost. We cannot allow it to be found." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"How can I help?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"Listen carefully, Veon. The Scroll of H'Dar, if both pieces are rejoined, will allow Innoruuk's followers direct communication with him, who will then spread his maliciousness throughout Norrath. He, too, seeks the half of the Scroll that was lost at Cauldron Hollow." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"But if no one has found the lost half, how can we keep him from locating it?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"The battles that rage often bring powers closer together than is normal...or wise. The Fall of Cauldron Hollow stretched the fabric of time, like cloth that has been worn through constant use. It did not break, but is thin enough that, with Tunare's blessings, I can send someone to the battle itself." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"Back to the Fall of Cauldron Hollow?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"Yes. It is not a simple task, and you would go alone to assist one of our faithful, the Kithicor Ranger Gandari. I use the word "assist" rather loosely, as you shall actually become one with Gandari for the time that you are there." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"How is that possible!?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"If you have faith in Tunare, all things are possible, Veon. I cannot send someone to battle who was not there. Time cannot be rearranged to accomodate a new body. However, Gandari's faith is well-known to Tunare, and she would welcome her guidance through you." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"What would Tunare have me do?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"Pray to Tunare for guidance. I shall prepare the incantation to transfer you into Gandari. You must defeat the Dragoons of Gul'Thex and prevent them from finding the missing half of the Scroll of H'Dar." You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"Why are we doing this now, long after the battle was fought?" Eva Corunno'thes/a says to you,"Innoruuk has likewise discovered that time's fabric is thin at this battle. He will no doubt try to locate the Scroll and ensure that it reaches Queen Cristanos. We must, at all costs, prevent that from happening. There was no clear winner at Cauldron Hollow then. There must not be one now. Are you ready to join the fray?" You say to Eva Corunno'thes,"I am honored to serve Tunare. Send me into battle!" What follows is the first 6-8 seconds of the Quest, where you assume the persona of a level 71 Ranger, and what kind of opposition to expect: You have entered Battlefield of Cauldron Hollow. You look around for tracks... Possessing Gandari (Veon) Your faction standing with The Kithicor Rangers got better. You receive a Sturdy Backpack. You receive a Ivy Etched Bracer. You receive a Ivy Etched Gauntlets. You receive a Ivy Etched Hood. You receive a Ivy Etched Leggings. You receive a Ivy Etched Sleeves. You receive a Ivy Etched Tunic. You receive a Jaelan's Katana. You receive a Stonewood Compound Bow. You receive a Blood Orchid Katana/a. You receive 100 arrows. You say, "Hail, Leaf Falldim" Leaf Falldim says to you,"Gandari! You must send in the elite infantry, give Pathfinder Rolan the command. Hurry or we will lose ground!" a Kithicor Ranger tries to crush a Gul'Thex Dragoon, but misses. a Kithicor Ranger's Immolate hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 10440 points of heat damage. a Kithicor Ranger tries to crush a Gul'Thex Dragoon, but a Gul'Thex Dragoon parries. a Kithicor Ranger hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 1306 points of crushing damage. a Kithicor Ranger hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 1066 points of crushing damage. a Gul'Thex Dragoon hits a Kithicor Ranger for 1412 points of crushing damage. a Kithicor Ranger hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 954 points of crushing damage. a Kithicor Ranger hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 719 points of crushing damage. a Kithicor Ranger hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 1289 points of crushing damage. a Kithicor Ranger hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 762 points of crushing damage. a Gul'Thex Dragoon hits a Kithicor Ranger for 538 points of crushing damage. a Kithicor Ranger's Swarm of Pain hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 502 points of magic damage. a Kithicor Ranger hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 874 points of crushing damage. a Kithicor Ranger hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 779 points of crushing damage. a Kithicor Ranger hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 1305 points of crushing damage. a Kithicor Ranger's Careless Lightning hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 3879 points of magic damage. a Kithicor Ranger has killed a Gul'Thex Dragoon. a Kithicor Ranger begins to command the elemental spirits. a Kithicor Ranger's Swarm of Pain hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 690 points of magic damage. a Gul'Thex Dragoon:a Gul'Thex Dragoon/a says, "To the death!" a Gul'Thex Dragoon writhes in pain as thousands of insects sting It! a Gul'Thex Dragoon emanates a dark energy! Dark spirits coalesce around A Gul'Thex Dragoon a Kithicor Ranger tries to crush a Gul'Thex Dragoon, but a Gul'Thex Dragoon parries. a Kithicor Ranger hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 658 points of crushing damage. a Kithicor Ranger tries to crush a Gul'Thex Dragoon, but a Gul'Thex Dragoon parries. a Kithicor Ranger hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 1310 points of crushing damage. The shadows play with your strength. The shadows play with A Gul'Thex Dragoon's strength. a Gul'Thex Dragoon's Disease Cloud hits YOU for 579 points of disease damage. a dark spirit begins to squeeze the life out of you! a Kithicor Ranger tries to crush a Gul'Thex Dragoon, but misses. a Gul'Thex Dragoon's Lifetap hits a Kithicor Ranger for 9508 points of disease damage. a Gul'Thex Dragoon's Lifetap heals a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 2241 hit points. a Gul'Thex Dragoon's Disease Cloud hits YOU for 958 points of disease damage. a Kithicor Ranger hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 854 points of crushing damage. a Kithicor Ranger hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 1261 points of crushing damage. a Gul'Thex Dragoon hits a Kithicor Ranger for 1263 points of crushing damage. a Kithicor Ranger hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 1345 points of crushing damage. a Gul'Thex Dragoon hits YOU for 394 points of crushing damage. The four elements converge upon Pathfinder Rolan! The four elements converge upon a Kithicor Ranger! The four elements converge upon a Kithicor Ranger! The four elements converge upon a Kithicor Ranger! a Kithicor Ranger hits a Gul'Thex Dragoon for 1006 points of crushing damage.</DIV>

Cusashorn

11-04-2006, 10:13 PM

<DIV>Aye. You relive the battle as either the rangers or the Shadowknights (for the Innoruuk quest) but the outcome is the same. Both of you get ambushed and slaughtered by Assassins of The Arm.</DIV>

Mary the Prophetess

11-04-2006, 10:21 PM

It would be interesting to see the text of the Innoruuk Quest to compare the versions.

johnathanb

11-04-2006, 10:29 PM

Im curious about the assassin of arm. Who are they? cause they murder me pretty quick, before i get to have a good look at them.

Cusashorn

11-04-2006, 10:42 PM

<DIV>It was nice to see the old-school Ranger and Shadowknight spells from EQlive again.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I can't say I know who the Assassins of "The Arm" are except that they were level 80+++ heroics.</DIV>

steelbadger

11-04-2006, 11:10 PM

Interestingly enough you can hide in the doorway behind the Kithicor ranger barricade and the Assassins don't aggro, then you can pull them individually. Unfortunatly I spent 15 mins killing them and I think they respawn, they seemed to be of varying races and didn't say much of interest.Dissapointed that they respawn <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I was wanting to change history and all :smileytongue:<div></div>

RaphaNissi

11-04-2006, 11:40 PM

<div></div>Here is the Innoruuk side for comparison.You say, "Hail, Xilania Nevagon"Xilania Nevagon says to you,"If you seek to advance the cause of the Prince of Hate we may have something to speak about. If you are of the godless heathen sect please leave my presence at once or suffer my wrath!"You say to Xilania Nevagon,"I wish to aid the cause."Xilania Nevagon says to you,"Listen closely, underling. You are about to be given a chance to aid the growth of Hate's influence throughout Norrath. Our time is at hand!"You say to Xilania Nevagon,"What do you mean?"Xilania Nevagon says to you,"The forces of Hate have long been in conflict with the followers of that wretched sow of Growth, Tunare. The fools who pander to her whim do not understand that the triumph of Innoruuk is inevitable!"You say to Xilania Nevagon,"What does this have to do with me?"Xilania Nevagon says to you,"Throughout our world's history, the Prince of Hate's followers have battled against the puppets of Tunare time and time again. Now, with the influence of our master rising once more, the link to these past conflicts has never been stronger."You say to Xilania Nevagon,"What is my part in this?"Xilania Nevagon says to you,"I need a hero of our modern age to slip through the fabric of time itself and take part in a crucial battle that will allow us to speak to our dark master directly once more. If you have the courage, you will be that hero."You say to Xilania Nevagon,"How is such a thing possible?"Xilania Nevagon says to you,"The influence of the gods transcends time itself. Such conflicts unleash planar forces so primal that they weaken the ephemeral veil that separates the present from the past. By focusing the essence of Hate, I can send your spirit through that veil to a crucial battle in the past."You say to Xilania Nevagon,"Why don't you travel back in time yourself?"Xilania Nevagon says to you,"As the Seraph of Hate, I am the only one powerful enough to focus the energies required to send a spirit to the past and bring it back again. I must remain here, which is why I need your assistance."You say to Xilania Nevagon,"Where in the past would I be going?"Xilania Nevagon says to you,"One of the great clashes between Hate and Growth took place in the Battle of Cauldron Hollow. It occurred at a crucial point during the War of Fay, in which our people sought to unify the sacred Scroll of H'dar."You say to Xilania Nevagon,"What is the Scroll of H'dar?"Xilania Nevagon says to you,"The scroll bears an ancient incantation that allows us to speak to our great master, Innoruuk. The parchment was torn in half long ago. One part was kept in a place of honor deep in Neriak, while the other was held captive by the cursed Koada'Dal in Felwithe."You say to Xilania Nevagon,"How was the scroll to be unified?"Xilania Nevagon says to you,"During the War of Fay, the mighty Teir'Dal Empire captured Felwithe and recovered the other half of the scroll. Prince Talvus Thex was dispatched to bring it to Neriak to be united with the other piece, but he was ambushed by the cowardly Kithicor Rangers at the port of Cauldron Hollow. The parchment was lost."You say to Xilania Nevagon,"What is my part in this?"Xilania Nevagon says to you,"With your considerable tactical knowledge, you will take part in this legendary fight. Your spirit will inhabit the body of Commander N'Farre, leader of the Dragoon of Gul'Thex. Strike down the Kithicor Rangers and recover the other half of the scroll."You say to Xilania Nevagon,"What happens when I succeed?"Xilania Nevagon says to you,"With both halves of the Scroll of H'dar united in Neriak, history will be rewritten. The Teir'Dal will commune with the Prince of Hate and lead an empire that conquers all of Norrath! Will you fulfill your role in history?"You say to Xilania Nevagon,"I will recover the scroll for you."Xilania Nevagon says to you,"Then be off! When you defeat the rangers and recover the scroll, your spirit will be brought forward to take your place in our new empire! Are you ready to travel back to the battle?"You say to Xilania Nevagon,"I am ready. Send me to the past!" You have entered Battlefield of Cauldron Hollow.Possessing Commander N'Farre (Rapha)Your faction standing with The Gul'Thex Dragoons got better.You say, "Hail, Prince Talvus"Prince Talvus says to you,"N'Farre! Are you injured? You looked like you were about to be sick for a moment."You say to Prince Talvus,"No, Your Highness."Prince Talvus says to you,"Good, your arrival is well timed. Victory is inevitable now. Listen, I must be protected at all costs. I have the other half of the Scroll of H'Dar and it must be returned to Neriak. You know the scroll is more important than any of us."You say to Prince Talvus,"I will protect the scroll."Prince Talvus says to you,"We will both carry it triumphantly back to Neriak covered in the blood of our foes. Now, send in your cavalry and let the slaughter begin."You say, "Hail, Captain Kron'Ryl"Captain Kron'Ryl says to you,"Sir!"You say to Captain Kron'Ryl,"Captain, charge!"Captain Kron'Ryl says, "Charge!!"The Assassins of The Arm storm forth from the well!!Prince Talvus has escaped to summon reinforcements. You say, "Hail, Xilania Nevagon"Xilania Nevagon says to you,"You have returned already, tell me, were you successful?"You say to Xilania Nevagon,"In a way...we defeated the Rangers, but were attacked by assassins."Xilania Nevagon says to you,"Lost??? No! Even one with my power cannot breach the veil of history again to try the battle once more. You have cost us our chance to unite the Scroll of H'dar and speak once more with the Prince of Hate!"You say to Xilania Nevagon,"I am sorry, Seraph."Xilania Nevagon says to you,"I suppose I should be grateful that the half of the parchment I sent you to retrieve is lost rather than in the hands of the enemy. Perhaps that is its destiny after all. I guess I must reward your efforts in aiding the cause of Hate."You say to Xilania Nevagon,"I am pleased to have served Innoruuk."Xilania Nevagon says to you,"Accept this token of my appreciation. Be ready, for the day will soon come when you have the chance to serve my master once more."You say to Xilania Nevagon,"I will be watching for that day."You receive Book of Hate Xilania Nevagon says, "I feel the return of the Prince of Hate coming near. It will be soon, faithful one."I think it's interesting that the Prince got away. <div></div>

Cusashorn

11-04-2006, 11:49 PM

<DIV>Aye, the prince got away, and the rangers escaped for reinforcements too, but the scroll was lost in the conflict so neither side won.</DIV>

Mirander_1

11-05-2006, 12:03 AM

<div></div>What's the most interesting about this whole event is the Assassins of the Arm. When you talk to the Prophetess of Growth after the event, it appears that those assassins weren't part of the historical Battle of Cauldron Hollow, their pressence was something new. Perhaps we weren't the only ones to go back in time in this little event.<div></div>

Ama

11-05-2006, 12:03 AM

<DIV>Dang was about to post this up but this quest really intrigues me as to what takes place and the battle between two characters. The thing that bothers me is it seems it was a never ending struggles but some how Gandari prevailed making the Innoruk quest invalid since the commander is supposed to loose. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>One thing that does intrigue me is that after you defeat one or the other rangers emerge from the well in the center of the Cauldron Hollow. This makes me very suspicious and I wonder if it wasn't a well but really an escape tunnel or something along those lines. By saying this it could give a reason as to how the assassin emerged miraculously from the well but could just be a farce. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Who are these Assassins of the Arm that you encounter and who is their leader? Also, do they have any special tactics/relations to the current world of Norrath? </DIV>

RaphaNissi

11-05-2006, 12:10 AM

Ok, so there are quite a few questions from the view of a Teir'Dal.1. Wasn't Neriak sealed off by now, and if so what happened to the Prince?2. Where is the other half of the scroll? Did the Assassins take it since they were the only ones left standing?3. The asassins came from the well. Where they hiding in there for the opportune time, or does the well actually lead to somewhere?4. Why does Innoruuk want to commune with the Dark Elves so badly that he is willing to risk any consequences by changing history?5. If the assassins were there for the scroll, did they go after the other half in Neriak? Do they now have both halfs, or did the Queen seal off Neriak so that they couldn't get the other half?Things to think about.<div></div>

Cusashorn

11-05-2006, 04:57 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RaphaNissi wrote: Ok, so there are quite a few questions from the view of a Teir'Dal. 1. Wasn't Neriak sealed off by now, and if so what happened to the Prince? 4. Why does Innoruuk want to commune with the Dark Elves so badly that he is willing to risk any consequences by changing history? <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> 1. The abilities you use are old spells from Eqlive. This was before the discovery of Arcane Combat Arts, which happened before the War of the Fay. (happened practically immediately after the time split in fact since it was still in the life-time of Master Poab Closk.) 4. Hey. If you were the evilest god of evil, wouldn't you jump at the chance to alter time to make sure everyone bows down to your might?

RaphaNissi

11-05-2006, 06:30 AM

<div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> RaphaNissi wrote:Ok, so there are quite a few questions from the view of a Teir'Dal.1. Wasn't Neriak sealed off by now, and if so what happened to the Prince?4. Why does Innoruuk want to commune with the Dark Elves so badly that he is willing to risk any consequences by changing history? <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> 1. The abilities you use are old spells from Eqlive. This was before the discovery of Arcane Combat Arts, which happened before the War of the Fay. (happened practically immediately after the time split in fact since it was still in the life-time of Master Poab Closk.) 4. Hey. If you were the evilest god of evil, wouldn't you jump at the chance to alter time to make sure everyone bows down to your might?<hr></blockquote>Those weren't the questions I asked :smileywink:1. The "now" in number one refers to the Battle. I completely understand I was teleported back. I completely understand I was given the spells of the SK from that Age. I didn't ask anything about the spells/abilities. My question was about where the Prince went if Neriak had been sealed off by the time he went for reinforcements. 4.My main quesion was WHY did Inny want to talk to the Teir'Dal so badly at that time. He obviously still has the same motive 500 years later since he is getting his prophet to send someone back in time to change history.</div>

Cusashorn

11-05-2006, 06:32 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RaphaNissi wrote: <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RaphaNissi wrote: Ok, so there are quite a few questions from the view of a Teir'Dal. 1. Wasn't Neriak sealed off by now, and if so what happened to the Prince? 4. Why does Innoruuk want to commune with the Dark Elves so badly that he is willing to risk any consequences by changing history? <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> 1. The abilities you use are old spells from Eqlive. This was before the discovery of Arcane Combat Arts, which happened before the War of the Fay. (happened practically immediately after the time split in fact since it was still in the life-time of Master Poab Closk.) 4. Hey. If you were the evilest god of evil, wouldn't you jump at the chance to alter time to make sure everyone bows down to your might? <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Those weren't the questions I asked :smileywink: 1. The "now" in number one refers to the Battle. I completely understand I was teleported back. I completely understand I was given the spells of the SK from that Age. I didn't ask anything about the spells/abilities. My question was about where the Prince went if Neriak had been sealed off by the time he went for reinforcements. 4.My main quesion was WHY did Inny want to talk to the Teir'Dal so badly at that time. He obviously still has the same motive 500 years later since he is getting his prophet to send someone back in time to change history. </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> I answered your question. Neriak was sealed off DURING the War of the Fay, which means this battle took place before that. And Innoruuk was spending the last 500 years in Traction from the sever beating the mortals gave him. I dont blame him for not being able to speak with mortals.. (that and the whole pact of the gods thing.)

RaphaNissi

11-05-2006, 06:49 AM

Are you actually reading the words I have typed?Xilania Nevagon says to you,"One of the great clashes between Hate and Growth took place in the Battle of Cauldron Hollow. It occurred at a crucial point during the War of Fay, in which our people sought to unify the sacred Scroll of H'dar."The sealing of Neriak AND the battle both took place DURING the War of Fay. Which came first though? IF Neriak was sealed off first, then where did the Prince go? Has he actually been in hiding somewhere this whole time? IF Neriak was sealed off second, did the Prince make it into the city? Did his mother have him killed there? Did he kill her first? These are questions to think about. At this point in time, the answers probably aren't out there.<div></div>

DreamerClou

11-05-2006, 08:12 AM

<DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mirander wrote: What's the most interesting about this whole event is the Assassins of the Arm. When you talk to the Prophetess of Growth after the event, it appears that those assassins weren't part of the historical Battle of Cauldron Hollow, their pressence was something new. Perhaps we weren't the only ones to go back in time in this little event. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Assassins of the Arm, hmm. The only Arm I can think of is the Arm of Innoruuk. And back in EQ1, the Hand of Innoruuk. Maybe Innoruuk himself sent in those Assassins to foul everything up just to show his disdain for the Dark Elves for some reason? Maybe "us" Dark Elves felt it was going to be a cakewalk to defeat the rangers so Inny sent in the assassins just to make us hate him even more? Yeah, I'm reaching for straws here lol. But it was an awesome quest ( the Innoruuk side) One of the abilities was Harm Touch which felt so good hitting the rangers for almost 30k in one pop ><img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

Ama

11-05-2006, 08:26 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DreamerCloud9 wrote: <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mirander wrote: What's the most interesting about this whole event is the Assassins of the Arm. When you talk to the Prophetess of Growth after the event, it appears that those assassins weren't part of the historical Battle of Cauldron Hollow, their pressence was something new. Perhaps we weren't the only ones to go back in time in this little event. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Assassins of the Arm, hmm. The only Arm I can think of is the Arm of Innoruuk. And back in EQ1, the Hand of Innoruuk. Maybe Innoruuk himself sent in those Assassins to foul everything up just to show his disdain for the Dark Elves for some reason? Maybe "us" Dark Elves felt it was going to be a cakewalk to defeat the rangers so Inny sent in the assassins just to make us hate him even more? Yeah, I'm reaching for straws here lol. But it was an awesome quest ( the Innoruuk side) One of the abilities was Harm Touch which felt so good hitting the rangers for almost 30k in one pop ><img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Hmm that is a deffinate possibility in that Innoruuk cast out his DE coven that worship him and made some new ones. These guys we encountered were seriously strong and they sprung forth from that well. I have to say that well makes me believe that A.) there is a secret passage for escaping CH or to CH from another place or B.) Innoruuk has hired/contracted himself some mercenaries from our time. His power is so great as a god he was able to put them into the time period thus negating the history books as we know it. There is a 3rd unlikely scenario however but it would require some devious people. There could be a secret sect of assassins calling themselves "The Assassins of the Arm" and they have kept secret by replacing all traces of their actions with faulty history texts. The texts describe everything that happen but they do not mention themselves and write the books as if they had never interviened. By doing this "Cover Up" scenario we have never noticed their presence and they have existed for a period of time undiscovered. However by going back into the past and witnessing what transpired I have a feeling the "Assassin of the Arm" people will not be too happy. This is starting to sound like a very dangerous cloak and dagger scenario if you ask me.

RaphaNissi

11-06-2006, 03:28 AM

It doesn't make all that much sense for Innoruuk to give the Seraph the power to send us back to get the scroll if he already is using the Assassins to get it.I did figure out an answer to part of one of my questions. I remembered that I had been running around Lesser Faydark on my little newbie Fae and ran into a group of Thexians. I didn't get very close because they could see through my stealth. I did however, notice a named mob in there. I didn't think much of the name at the time since it wasn't known to me. It seems that Talvus may have escaped back to Faydwer and still be there alive and well. The mob I saw was High Priestess Y'Lask <Counselor of Talvus>.<div></div>

Mary the Prophetess

11-06-2006, 04:08 AM

Possible culprits: [add or subtract from the list below] Queen Cristanos Thex? [Queen Cristanos Thex has proven herself to be ruthless to the point of having her husband and son assasinated. It is assumed that she is locked safely away in Neriak, but is there a way in and out that we do not know about, (perhaps through a well)?] Lanys 'T Vyl? [She has been killed and resurrected, and killed again, but still seems to show up long after it was assumed she had been utterly destroyed] Najena? [Niece of Queen Cristanos Thex, she withdrew to her own fortress in Lavastorm, where her activities are mostly unknown.] Innoruuk? [Why the god of Hate may wish to obtain the Scroll is unfathomable. Perhaps to allow some favored faction communication with the god; perhaps to keep anyone from communicating directly to him.] What power would not think twice about betraying both friend and foe alike to obtain both halves of the Scroll of H'dar? By the prickling of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes. Message Edited by Mary the Prophetess on 11-05-2006 05:40 PM

randomname

11-06-2006, 06:47 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mary the Prophetess wrote: What power would not think twice about betraying both friend and foe alike to obtain both halves of the Scroll of H'dar? <HR> Mistmoore. I was under the impression that Mistmoore has been up in the Plane of Hate and has only recently returned. Well, if access to the planes was cut off by the pact with the Gods how could he get there. Perhaps, with the scroll he could still communicate with Inny without "violating" the pact. Also, I thought, based off the original CH access quest, that the sealing of Neriak occured during the battle. The rangers heard a loud boom and no more reinforcements were seen again. That has always made me suspect the Queen as the culprit, but what if Mistmoore was somehow behind that too; stealing both halves of the scroll at the same time and closing off Neriak so that they couldn't go after him. Who knows? But I just think Mistmoore's return will start to answer alot of questions.</BLOCKQUOTE>

Nocturnal Aby

11-06-2006, 12:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> randomname wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> Also, I thought, based off the original CH access quest, that the sealing of Neriak occured during the battle. The rangers heard a loud boom and no more reinforcements were seen again. That has always made me suspect the Queen as the culprit, but what if Mistmoore was somehow behind that too; stealing both halves of the scroll at the same time and closing off Neriak so that they couldn't go after him. Who knows? But I just think Mistmoore's return will start to answer alot of questions.</BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Actually, there are already explanations to the sealing of Neriak, two of them to be exact, depending on who you talk to. The first can be read about in the Houndslayer books. A band of Kithicor Rangers and Stormreapers (I believe that was the name of the halfling druid/ranger guild, something similar, anyways) lead a bunch of gnomes (well, they started out as a bunch..) into Neriak Commons, where they successfully detonated a mechanimagical device. At the same time, a powerful Necromancer unleashed the power of a relic called the Hand of Byzola. Between these two events, Neriak Commons was turned into Fallen Gate. As to the Assassins of the Arm, and Mayong, only the devs can tell.

Pyrrhx

11-06-2006, 04:09 PM

Maybe it's just me but, wouldn't a likely scenario for the presence of the Assassins of the Arm involve a neutral god, such as Quellious or the Tribunal, sending the assassins back so that the balance of history stays intact? Aside from the meddling of the gods (and/or their prophets) who else is known to be capable of traversing time/space? <UL> <LI>League of Freethinkers (**make sure the scroll stays lost)? </LI> <LI>Shadow men (**send the assassins for fear that allowing direct communion with Inny would prevent them from acheiving their goals)? </LI> <LI>Varsoon and Everling (** they certainly like their arcane artifacts)? </LI> <LI>Mayong (**maybe he wanted the direct communion with hate? maybe he acquired both and that's how he managed to spend the last 500yrs in the plane of hate)? --I'm not entirely sure that Mayong has the power to send assassins through time and space, so maybe they were there the entire time?</LI></UL>

Saroc_Luclin

11-06-2006, 06:51 PM

Haven't done the quest yet, but sounds like EQII just got its first Monster Mission. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Anyways, not sure who the Arm of the Assassin's were sent by; I'm tempted to say maybe Druzzil Ro is a possability; she has already meddled in the timelines before to protect how they should play out (ie the end results of PoTime), possibly at Quellious's or the Tribunal's behest. She was also (using PoR lore so disregard if you will) one of the ones who popped open the portal in the ruins of Takish'Hiz back to the Eldaar Forest.Not sure where LoY fits into the EQII timeline, whether it was just after the split or just before the split, but IIRC, part of the LoY storyline showed that Inny no longer saw the darkelves as his, and was instead training the Luggoloid's as the replacement as a 'preferred race'. Maybe he, at the time, sent his own forces in to get the scroll to keep the Tier'dal from calling him on the direct line.Mayong is a possibility; not sure what pre-DoDH lore there is to reflect that, but DoDH lore (and not fully applicable I know) says he was fascinated with Planar and Deity specific items as he was working on his ascension. The scroll sounds like just the sort of thing he would love to get his mitts on. And (DoDH Lore again I know) he was sort've 'in the area' during the EQ1 time/circa the time of that fight, literally under the feet of people in Nektulos. Perhaps he sent his Drachnids from Dreadspire or the Hive (in disguise) to that battle to get the scroll. (The time portals Inny and Tunare popped open may have been enouhg to draw his attention to the scroll half whereas he would have ignored it before)Those areas were reached from under Nektulos, and we know there is an extensive cave system under Norrath (the Underfoot), and it was still intact at the time of that mission, The prince (and the assassins) may have escaped into a tunnel that lead to the Underfoot and went Brell-knows-where.Anyways lots of questions and curious details in that mission from the sounds of it. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Hopefully I can find some time to try it soon.(And looks like the Ranger at least was a planar ranger, or one who didn't mind buying planar items in the bazaar. He had the Plane of Earth fletched bow. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )<div></div>

KniteShayd

11-07-2006, 01:19 PM

Well, the prince gets away, yes, but I'm betting that Queen Thex sent the arm assassins to kill him and retreive the scroll for herself. They do speak of this, that she tried to kill the king AND the prince while they were away.

Defender of Antonia

11-08-2006, 09:07 PM

I took some screeshots of the Assasins if there of good quality I'll post them when I get home Would have done it sooner but Raids took longer then expected last night

xOnaton1

11-10-2006, 11:45 AM

<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div>We have met a member of The Arm just recently too. Zanas of the Arm now lives in Fallen Gate, in undead form, and you can read <a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=19651#M19651">three letters that he saved</a> from this time period. The letters mention that he is a member of the Ebon Mask.Interestingly, a member of the Ebon Mask was also a <a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=9929#M9929">frequent guest at Nektropos Castle</a> and secretly taught Sheila Everling to become a rogue.Also, after you defeat Dragoon T'Sanne and return the halberd to Dragoon K'Naae he is attacked by Ebon Mask assassins. Perhaps The Arm and the Ebon Mask are one and the same.Othesus - Dirge - Lucan DLereVaspar - Fury - Lucan DLere<div></div>Message Edited by xOnaton1 on 11-10-2006 08:08 PM

Cusashorn

11-10-2006, 11:55 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> xOnaton1 wrote: We have met a member of The Arm just recently too. Zanas of the Arm now lives in Fallen Gate, in undead form, and you can read <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=19651#M19651" target=_blank>three letters that he saved</A> from this time period. The letters mention that he is a member of the Ebon Mask. Perhaps The Arm is also the Ebon Mask or some members belong to both. Interestingly, a member of the Ebon Mask was also a <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=9929#M9929" target=_blank>frequent guest at Nektropos Castle</A> and secretly taught Sheila Everling to become a rogue. Othesus - Dirge - Lucan DLere Vaspar - Fury - Lucan DLere <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>But that doesn't make the two related, lore-wise.