Lore behind some of the major names.

[johnathanb]

<DIV>Hi all,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have not play eq 1 so i don't know what is the lore behind some of the major names in eq2.   I hope i am not confusing anyone.   I just want to know what some of these name were doing in eq 1 before eq 2.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Talendor - Currently residing in AoA , part of the awakened</DIV> <DIV>Gorenair - Currently residing in AoA, Part of the awakened</DIV> <DIV>Harla Dar - Currently residing in temple of scale - Part of the awakened</DIV> <DIV>Vyemm - Currently in LABs-Part of the awakened</DIV> <DIV>Tarinax - currently in Deathtoll - I heard that the shadown mens kill him and took his soul</DIV> <DIV>Nafagen - Currently in sol eye - </DIV> <DIV>Lady Vox - currently Dead - I heard she got murder on the way to meeting with nafagen and her corpse is in lavastorm.  Part of the deception quest you revive her for a few minute, so she can explain her situation.</DIV> <DIV>Najena - i know her currentl story line, but how big is her story in eq 1?</DIV> <DIV>Wuoshi - From the look of it, he will be in EOF.  What part does he/she have in eq 1?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I really like the lore behind the other big name like lucan, and the prismatic dragon.  And there is lots of lore about them.  But the few name i list above, i don't see much lore about them and have not learn much about them.  Thanks for anyone replying to this.</DIV>

[Mirander_1]

<div></div>I don't think we know yet if Wuoshi is in EoF.  But here are some info on some of those names:Nagafen and Vox- Basically these two wanted to mate.  Doing this would create another prismatic dragon.  Knowing this, the other dragons captured them and locked them away in their lairs in Solusek's Eye and Permafrost.  I believe this is the only EQlive lore on them.Najena-  I don't know a lot about her. All I know is that she was a dark elf mage (can't remember the exact class) who had a lair in Lavastorm.On top of that, here are a few other characters that were in both games:Danak Dorentath- In EQ2, he's the Prophet of Cazic Thule.  In EQlive, he was a servant of the iksar lich lord, Venril Sathir.  Venril sent Danak to Faydwer to kidnap the high elf princess and champion of Tunare, Firiona Vie (she's the one on all the EQlive boxes.)  Danak succeeded, but Firiona's companions led a rescue mission and retieved her.  For his failiure, Danak was tortured and left for dead in the jungle.  As he was dying, Danak made a pact with Thule, swearing to serve him if he would spare Danak's life.  Cazic accepted, and Danak has served him ever since.Holly Windstalker-  In EQ2, you can see her ghost wandering around Antonica.  In EQlive, she was a fanatical ranger who protected the animals of the Qeynos Hills.  She would kill anyone who touched one of her animals, even if it was a rabid creature who had attacked them first.Vhalen- In EQ2, you can see his ghost in the bell tower in Antonica, where he had died warning Qeynos about the Bloodsaber attack in the War of the Plagues.  I don't know a lot about him in EQlive, but he was a big part of the bard epic quest, if I remember correctly.Opal Darkbriar, "the Foci"-  She's the head of the Academy of Arcane Science in EQ2.  In EQlive, she was head of the Dismal Rage, the organization of various evil people in Freeport.  She had also infiltrated the Academy, using an illusion to make herself look like a high elf.Fiddy Bobick- In EQ2, he's in the Peacock Club in Maj'Dul.  In EQlive, he was a famous halfling sailor who had retired to selling bait in Rivervale.The Drafling-  In EQ2, we haven't seen hime yet, but it's looking like we might soon.  For that matter, he never showed himself in EQlive, either, but there is mention of him.  All we really know about him is that he's half halfling and half dragon.    <div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Vulak'Aer is the dragon we will be seeing in Echoes of Feydwer, but that isn't to say Wuoshi might not be.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Vulak'Aer was the leader of the Claws of Veeshan faction of dragons in Velious.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Deep in the Temple of Veeshan, you'd find Dragons living all over the place, but there in the center of the Northern wing stood a massive platform over a huge pit of lava.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If a raid force stepped into that platform, they'd soon find themselves barracaded inside by a massive wall of Drakes and Wurms would would deathtouch anyone who tried to escape.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wave after wave of drakes, Wurms, and raptors would assault you untill finally you made your way through all 15 and finally faced Vulak'Aer, the dragon in charge of the Temple of Veeshan.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lore-Wise, I don't know too much about him, but I don't know if there was ever very much given in the first place, but EoF lore has hinted that Vulak'Aer decided to abandon the very temple he was trusted with protecting in order to pursue his own goals. Whether or not he was forced to abandon the temple or chose to on his own, remains to be seen.</DIV>

[Coccinea_Maga]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lore-Wise, I don't know too much about him, but I don't know if there was ever very much given in the first place, but EoF lore has hinted that Vulak'Aer decided to abandon the very temple he was trusted with protecting in order to pursue his own goals. Whether or not he was forced to abandon the temple or chose to on his own, remains to be seen.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Would you mind pointing a link to what EoF lore you are referencing?<BR>

[Kyvthuhlu]

<P></P> <HR> Opal Darkbriar, "the Foci"-  She's the head of the Academy of Arcane Science in EQ2.  In EQlive, she was head of the Dismal Rage, the organization of various evil people in Freeport.  She had also infiltrated the Academy, using an illusion to make herself look like a high elf. <HR> <P>This is not the case.</P> <P>In EQlive she was a simple librarian in the Academy of Arcane Science dot'ed upon by Caine Darkmoore.  She was also her own faction that allied itself with the Dismal Rage - which was run by Pietro Zarn.</P>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kyvthuhlu wrote:<BR> <P></P> <HR> Opal Darkbriar, "the Foci"-  She's the head of the Academy of Arcane Science in EQ2.  In EQlive, she was head of the Dismal Rage, the organization of various evil people in Freeport.  She had also infiltrated the Academy, using an illusion to make herself look like a high elf. <HR> <P>This is not the case.</P> <P>In EQlive she was a simple librarian in the Academy of Arcane Science dot'ed upon by Caine Darkmoore.  She was also her own faction that allied itself with the Dismal Rage - which was run by Pietro Zarn.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>No. he's right. Opal Darkbriar, head of the Dismal Rage, was a Dark Elf who disguised herself as a high elf, gave herself a new persona, and became Opal Darkbriar, leader of the Academy of Arcane Sciences.

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Coccinea_Maga wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lore-Wise, I don't know too much about him, but I don't know if there was ever very much given in the first place, but EoF lore has hinted that Vulak'Aer decided to abandon the very temple he was trusted with protecting in order to pursue his own goals. Whether or not he was forced to abandon the temple or chose to on his own, remains to be seen.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Would you mind pointing a link to what EoF lore you are referencing?<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>For starters:</P> <P><A href="http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/igallery/1/Everquest_2_Echoes_of_Faydwer/vulak'aer.jpg" target=_blank>http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/igallery/1/Everquest_2_Echoes_of_Faydwer/vulak'aer.jpg</A></P> <P> </P> <P>And 2nd: I remember reading it somewhere. I'm pretty sure it was a news article from gamespy, or gamespot, or somewhere... I just can't remember where it is, and I can't find any search perameters on the forums here to reference the news article I read it from.</P> <P> </P> <P>I know I read it though. Maybe it was a red name? dangit I don't remember where I read it, but I remember what I read.</P>

[DreamerClou]

<P>The skeleton you see in Lavastorm in EQ2 is not Lady Vox.  She was killed in her lair in Permafrost by drakes.</P> <P>Also, in EQ1, who was Lord Yelinak (spelling?)  The head dragon in Skyshrine.  I thought he was the leader for the Claws of Veeshan faction.</P>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Nah. just the leader of Skyshrine.</DIV>

[DreamerClou]

Ah thanks for clearing that up for me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Raolador]

<div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Coccinea_Maga wrote: <div></div> Would you mind pointing a link to what EoF lore you are referencing? <hr> </blockquote> <p>For starters:</p> <p><a href="http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/igallery/1/Everquest_2_Echoes_of_Faydwer/vulak%27aer.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/igallery/1/Everquest_2_Echoes_of_Faydwer/vulak'aer.jpg</a></p> <p>And 2nd: I remember reading it somewhere. I'm pretty sure it was a news article from gamespy, or gamespot, or somewhere... I just can't remember where it is, and I can't find any search perameters on the forums here to reference the news article I read it from.</p> <p>I know I read it though. Maybe it was a red name? dangit I don't remember where I read it, but I remember what I read.</p><hr></blockquote>That picture is identical to Lord Vyemm <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raolador wrote:<BR> <DIV>That picture is identical to Lord Vyemm <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Thats because both dragons shared the same model in EQlive. It's no coincidence.<BR>

[Paladin776]

Here's the EQL that I can recall:Talendor - Red Dragon found in Skyfire Mountains on Kunark.Gorenaire - White Dragon found in the Dreadlands on Kunark.Harla Dar - Found in Western Wastes on Velious.Nagafen - In Nagafen's Lair (soldungb) off Lavastorm. Vox - In Permafrost off of EverfrostWuoshi - In Wakening Lands on Velious. Used to camp the WL dragon circle (port in locations), and got a special nickname for the fear spell it would cast. (Essentially, add a 't' at the end of the name.)As for Najena, wasn't she partially involved somehow with the return of Lanys T'Vyl a couple of years after the events in Kithicor?

[Raolador]

<blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Raolador wrote: <div>That picture is identical to Lord Vyemm <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div> <hr> </blockquote>Thats because both dragons shared the same model in EQlive. It's no coincidence.<hr></blockquote>Sure. But also keep in mind that Talendor and Nagafen also shared the same model (and colour scheme), but they have different appearances here. When it comes to an important character in the lore such as Vulak, I doubt they would make an exact clone of Vyemm's model without even changing the skin or colour. Vyemm in EQ was very orange/green, and Vulak was a deep purple/blue. They have alot of room to work with here. It doesn't follow that Vulak is in EoF just because someone took a screenshot of Vyemm and labeled it as Vulak.<div></div>

[Raolador]

I think that if we want to get an idea of what the major dragons are up to in EQ2, we should look to the EQ item loot tables in the EQ2 high-end zones. Venekor's role as The Seeing is obvious, as he's collected himself his own little treasure troves (presumably) stolen from the other dragons: Blood Ember Breastplate and Jaundiced Bone Breastplate (drops from Trakanon, Old Sebilis); Shield of Elders (drops from Phara Dar, end boss Veeshan's Peak).There are also some loot drops in Deathtoll, such as the infamous Sceptre of Destruction from Sleeper's Tomb that we find on Tarinax. Vyemm's Lab is most interesting. We find alot of draconic artifacts here. Whether they were plundered from their former owners, passed on, or inherited as a result of the Rending and politics to follow, we find them in KoS. Drops such as Rekeklo's War Sword and Circlet of Silver Skies were originally found on Gozzrem, a cold Temple of Veeshan dragon. Good ol' Gozz might be down for the count. Alot of Vyemm's drops from EQ1 have remained intact in EQ2, which makes me believe that if a dragon were alive they'd probably be holding on tight to their loot. But we also find drops such as the Shield of Wurms, Chestplate of Fiery Might, Belt of Dagarn (all identified as "A draconic relic of ages past..."), presumably from Dagarn the Destroyer, a boss in North Temple of Veeshan. Since it seems like everyone has his stuff, I think it would be a safe bet that we won't be seeing him in Echos...<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Ok. I was wrong about Vyemm and Vulak'Aerr. It's been so long since I saw either of them. I thought they had the same models, but then again I was confusing both of them for another dragon entirely.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/pics/the_fabled_lord_vyemm.jpg"></DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/pics/vulak%27aerr.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>HOWEVER, if you look at that website with the picture of Vulak'Aer, you'll see that all the other screenshots are exclusive releases that only they got thier hands on. Considering everything else is new, why would you think that they'd take a picture of Lord Vyemm and call him Vulak'Aerr?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hmm?</DIV>

[Mirander_1]

<div></div>Ok, I know this is a bit off topic, but I have to ask, what the heck is wrong with Vyemm's face?<blockquote><hr><div> </div><div><img src="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/pics/the_fabled_lord_vyemm.jpg"></div><hr></blockquote>That's one hell of an overbite he has there <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span><div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Zlandicar is the same model as Vyemm, only a different color. For a Cannibalistic dragon like Zlandicar though, the huge fangs makes perfect sense for piercing meat and ripping it off.</DIV>

[Jindrack]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raolador wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Coccinea_Maga wrote:<BR> <BR>Would you mind pointing a link to what EoF lore you are referencing?<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>For starters:</P> <P><A href="http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/igallery/1/Everquest_2_Echoes_of_Faydwer/vulak%27aer.jpg" target=_blank>http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/igallery/1/Everquest_2_Echoes_of_Faydwer/vulak'aer.jpg</A></P> <P> </P> <P>And 2nd: I remember reading it somewhere. I'm pretty sure it was a news article from gamespy, or gamespot, or somewhere... I just can't remember where it is, and I can't find any search perameters on the forums here to reference the news article I read it from.</P> <P> </P> <P>I know I read it though. Maybe it was a red name? dangit I don't remember where I read it, but I remember what I read.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That picture is identical to Lord Vyemm <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That linked picture is Lord Vyemm.  The site mislabed a KoS image as an EoF one, and put the wrong caption on it.  Vulak will not be appearing in EoF, sorry. :-/<p>Message Edited by Jindrack on <span class=date_text>09-23-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:14 PM</span>

[RaphaNissi]

<div><blockquote><hr>Jindrack wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Raolador wrote: <div> <blockquote> <hr> Cusashorn wrote: <div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Coccinea_Maga wrote: <div></div>Would you mind pointing a link to what EoF lore you are referencing? <hr> </blockquote> <p>For starters:</p> <p><a href="http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/igallery/1/Everquest_2_Echoes_of_Faydwer/vulak%27aer.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/igallery/1/Everquest_2_Echoes_of_Faydwer/vulak'aer.jpg</a></p> <p>And 2nd: I remember reading it somewhere. I'm pretty sure it was a news article from gamespy, or gamespot, or somewhere... I just can't remember where it is, and I can't find any search perameters on the forums here to reference the news article I read it from.</p> <p>I know I read it though. Maybe it was a red name? dangit I don't remember where I read it, but I remember what I read.</p> <hr> </blockquote>That picture is identical to Lord Vyemm <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div> <hr> </blockquote>That linked picture is Lord Vyemm.  The site mislabed a KoS image as an EoF one, and put the wrong caption on it.  Vulak will not be appearing in EoF, sorry. :-/<p>Message Edited by Jindrack on <span class="date_text">09-23-2006</span> <span class="time_text">07:14 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>I guess that ends that debate <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RaphaNissi wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jindrack wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raolador wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Coccinea_Maga wrote:<BR> <BR>Would you mind pointing a link to what EoF lore you are referencing?<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>For starters:</P> <P><A href="http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/igallery/1/Everquest_2_Echoes_of_Faydwer/vulak%27aer.jpg" target=_blank>http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/igallery/1/Everquest_2_Echoes_of_Faydwer/vulak'aer.jpg</A></P> <P> </P> <P>And 2nd: I remember reading it somewhere. I'm pretty sure it was a news article from gamespy, or gamespot, or somewhere... I just can't remember where it is, and I can't find any search perameters on the forums here to reference the news article I read it from.</P> <P> </P> <P>I know I read it though. Maybe it was a red name? dangit I don't remember where I read it, but I remember what I read.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That picture is identical to Lord Vyemm <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That linked picture is Lord Vyemm.  The site mislabed a KoS image as an EoF one, and put the wrong caption on it.  Vulak will not be appearing in EoF, sorry. :-/ <P>Message Edited by Jindrack on <SPAN class=date_text>09-23-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>07:14 PM</SPAN><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I guess that ends that debate <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That's all I need to hear.

[Ishya]

<div><blockquote><hr>DreamerCloud9 wrote:<div></div> <p>The skeleton you see in Lavastorm in EQ2 is not Lady Vox.  She was killed in her lair in Permafrost by drakes.</p> <p>Also, in EQ1, who was Lord Yelinak (spelling?)  The head dragon in Skyshrine.  I thought he was the leader for the Claws of Veeshan faction.</p><hr></blockquote>Lord Yelinak was th head dragon of Sky-Shrine in Velioushe was killed  when the Sleeper awoke</div>

[xchimaerax]

<div><blockquote><hr>Ishya wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>DreamerCloud9 wrote:<div></div> <p>The skeleton you see in Lavastorm in EQ2 is not Lady Vox.  She was killed in her lair in Permafrost by drakes.</p> <p>Also, in EQ1, who was Lord Yelinak (spelling?)  The head dragon in Skyshrine.  I thought he was the leader for the Claws of Veeshan faction.</p><hr></blockquote>Lord Yelinak was th head dragon of Sky-Shrine in Velioushe was killed  when the Sleeper awoke</div><hr></blockquote>In Velious there were 3 dragon factions, not counting the existing Ring of Scale.Claws of VeeshanYelinakGaurdians of VeeshanYou could raise faction with Claws and Yelinak but not Gaurdians.  The Dragons in the North wing of the Temple of Veeshan were on Guardians of Veeshan faction, while the dragons in the west wing were on Claws and Yelinak.  I really liked what they did with the factions in this expansion.  My guild was on Giant Faction to start, then no faction as we killed them all, but the lore and the intricasies of the faction system in Scars of Velious were the best done in an MMO and imo they still havent been topped.I would love to see a more meaningful faction system brought into a future expansion, like they did with SoV.  They did it somewhat with DoF, but when I say meaningful I mean it is much more compelling to chose sides between Dragons, Giants or creepy ice dwarves (zombie dorfs!), then it is between Blades, Coin, Truth, Clowns, Hobos, etc...  Human factions... yawn.  Major High Fantasy creatures like Dragons or Giants?  Where do I sign up...</div>

[Kyvthuhlu]

<P></P> <HR> No. he's right. Opal Darkbriar, head of the Dismal Rage, was a Dark Elf who disguised herself as a high elf, gave herself a new persona, and became Opal Darkbriar, leader of the Academy of Arcane Sciences. <HR> <P>No, not correct.  Opal Darkbriar is neither the head of the Dismal Rage <EM>or</EM> the head of the Academy Arcane Sciences.</P> <P>She doesn't "lead" anything but her "own" faction.</P>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kyvthuhlu wrote:<BR> <P></P> <HR> No. he's right. Opal Darkbriar, head of the Dismal Rage, was a Dark Elf who disguised herself as a high elf, gave herself a new persona, and became Opal Darkbriar, leader of the Academy of Arcane Sciences. <HR> <P>No, not correct.  Opal Darkbriar is neither the head of the Dismal Rage <EM>or</EM> the head of the Academy Arcane Sciences.</P> <P>She doesn't "lead" anything but her "own" faction.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><A href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=968" target=_blank>http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=968</A><BR></P> <P></P> <DIV>Opal Darkbriar (East Freeport)</DIV> <P><EM>Guildmaster</EM></P> <P>Cleric guildmaster.<BR><BR>Opal Darkbriar is perhaps one of the strangest oddities in Norrath. While a high elf version of her heads the Order Arcane of Scientists, there is a dark elf version in East Freeport who leads the evil Clerics of Freeport.<BR><BR>Confusing this matter even further is that one of the historical enemies of the order of Arcane Scientists are the Freeport Militia, who themselves are allied with the evil Opal Darkbriar.</P> <P><A href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=20806" target=_blank>http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=20806</A></P> <P></P> <DIV>Opal Darkbriar (West Freeport)</DIV> <P><EM>Guildmaster</EM></P> <P>Wizard guildmaster.<BR><BR>Opal Darkbriar is perhaps one of the strangest oddities in Norrath. She is a dark elf cleric guildmaster in East Freeport who uses an artifact to pose as a high elf wizard guildmaster in West Freeport (according to the tabletop RPG). The artifact affects her mind if she uses it for too long, making her faction alliances tend more toward the high elf version.</P>

[Kyvthuhlu]

<P>I'm not challenging her status as a guild master - I'm challenging the notion that she "leads" either of those two factions.</P> <P>Two NPCs in Freeport refer to her specifically as "a librarian", - one of which is using that in a derogatory manner to downplay her value.</P> <P>Pietro Zarn is, absolutely, <STRONG><EM>the</EM></STRONG> leader of the Dismal Rage in EQlive.</P> <P>Allakhazam saying otherwise does not make it so.</P>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Oh. Well, yeah you have a point there, but she still more or less controlled both factions.</DIV>

[Kyvthuhlu]

<P>I wouldn't say she has "control" of either, but heavy influence in one.</P> <P>She's a mockery in Neriak.</P>