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TimidMou
09-11-2006, 02:17 PM
<DIV>Ok this has been bugging me for some time, so I guess I should ask:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Why are there two mobs named Venekor? And they even look exactly the same... If you don't know what I am talking about, the dragon that captured all the froggies in Cazic Thule was named Venekor, but there is another mob in the Halls of Seeing also named Venekor! How can there be a Venekor in two places at once, or are they twin brothers?</DIV>

Cusashorn
09-11-2006, 06:45 PM
<DIV>Venekor is Venekor. It's the same Dragon found in Cazic Thule, found in the Froglok quest of Cazic Thule, and Found in Halls of Seeing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Think of it as him being in different locations when the time is appropriate. He was defeated in Cazic Thule so he retreated to the Halls of Seeing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Same can be said for Murrar Shar in Qeynos and that dark elf from Freeport. They're found on the Newbie Islands, they were found next to Antonia and Lucan during the old betrayal quest, and now they're found in Tenebrous Tangle.</DIV>

TimidMou
09-11-2006, 07:02 PM
<P>Lol but we killed him and looted his corpse...</P> <P> </P> <P>He seems to have gotten a lot more powerful too.</P> <P> </P> <P>So if he is the same Venekor, anyone knows what is the significance of him being in HoS? It's rare for a mob to appear more than once, is there some story behind this?</P>

Jait
09-11-2006, 10:19 PM
<DIV>Dragons don't die as easily as one might think.  This is explained a bit during Fire and Ice, Nagafen's quest line.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>While I don't remember the whole story, Venekor has lost control of the Frogloks and retreated to the Halls of Seeing.  Not sure why, or how.</DIV>

Themaginator
09-11-2006, 11:33 PM
some things are just game mechanics man not everything is lore.  Technically you did not kill Venekor in SoL he got away and went to halls of seeing to regain his powers.  people need to learn how to differ between game mechanics and lore<div></div>

Cusashorn
09-11-2006, 11:42 PM
<DIV>Yeah the only reason why you actually kill him in Spirits of the Lost is because the raid deserves Loot for it's hard work.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If Venekor had just flown away like that Erudite Drakota guy from the Fanged Sea boat ride, nobody would have gotten any loot.</DIV>

IrishWonder
09-12-2006, 08:51 AM
<DIV>Yep, same Venekor. Though, sometimes I wish they'd change the game mechanics just a tad if they're going to pull something like the return of Venekor. Maybe, when you defeat him, instead of the death animation, he flies away and leaves the loot chest behind. That should be very possible to accomplish.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyways, he's in the Halls of Seeing because he's a part of the Cult of the Awakened. The Halls are his personal domain. Venekor is a bit of a kleptomaniac, and has stolen things from other dragons... so he holed himself up in the Halls of Seeing and put non-sentient golems on patrol so that word doesn't get out about his stealing problem. If it did, he might be kicked from the Awakened.</DIV>

SharpeRif
09-12-2006, 01:28 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IrishWonder wrote:<BR> <DIV>Yep, same Venekor. Though, sometimes I wish they'd change the game mechanics just a tad if they're going to pull something like the return of Venekor. <FONT color=#ff6633>Maybe, when you defeat him, instead of the death animation, he flies away and leaves the loot chest behind</FONT>. That should be very possible to accomplish.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyways, he's in the Halls of Seeing because he's a part of the Cult of the Awakened. The Halls are his personal domain. Venekor is a bit of a kleptomaniac, and has stolen things from other dragons... so he holed himself up in the Halls of Seeing and put non-sentient golems on patrol so that word doesn't get out about his stealing problem. If it did, he might be kicked from the Awakened.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>ROFL....I'm sorry...but I have this image running through my head of Venekor crapping a chest before he flies away....

Triste-Lune
09-13-2006, 07:53 PM
because venekor has sign up a contract with SOE to be the recuring vilain along the game. i wouldnt be surprise if once we hit lvl 100 he d be the final ultimate boss that nagafen would ask you to kill in the last epic questline.Venekor v1 = contested in CTVenekor v2 = instanced in SotLVenekor v3 = Boss in HoSWaiting eagerly for his v4 <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Moorgard
09-13-2006, 09:41 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IrishWonder wrote:<BR> <DIV>Anyways, he's in the Halls of Seeing because he's a part of the Cult of the Awakened. The Halls are his personal domain. Venekor is a bit of a kleptomaniac, and has stolen things from other dragons... so he holed himself up in the Halls of Seeing and put non-sentient golems on patrol so that word doesn't get out about his stealing problem. If it did, he might be kicked from the Awakened. <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Well said.</P> <P>Venekor has behavioral problems due to his rather unfortunate upbringing. His mother was distant, basically dropping him off on the doorstep of the lizardmen in the Temple of Cazic-Thule. She wanted him taken care of, but didn't want to do it herself. His very existence reminds her of a choice she made, the outcome of which was not as she'd hoped.</P> <P>Relations with his father are no better, but there are extenuating circumstances. Even someone with great power may be blind to the things closest to them.</P> <P>Thus Venekor is prone to fits of anti-social behavior, acting out in ways not typical of dragons. What impact this will have on his future remains to be seen.</P>

Zarfto
09-13-2006, 09:47 PM
So Venekor is Emo basically.<p>Message Edited by Zarfto on <span class=date_text>09-13-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:47 AM</span>

Pins
09-13-2006, 09:53 PM
Which means, Venekor isn't dead yet. Expect more lore on him to come out in 2-3 expansions.

Hirf
09-13-2006, 10:07 PM
Can anyone tell us who the lucky parents are?

Cusashorn
09-13-2006, 10:08 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zarfto wrote:<BR> So Venekor is Emo basically. <P>Message Edited by Zarfto on <SPAN class=date_text>09-13-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:47 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Darnit. now i've got this mental image of Venekor holing himself up in the Halls of Seeing, locking the door, crawling into fetal position and cry while he listens to Linkin Park and Blink 182 music.</P> <P>Venekor: "How could this happen to me? I made my mistake. Got no where to run, but life goes on and I'm fading away....."</P>

Kenazeer
09-13-2006, 10:10 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zarfto wrote:<BR> So Venekor is Emo basically. <P>Message Edited by Zarfto on <SPAN class=date_text>09-13-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:47 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Darnit. now i've got this mental image of Venekor holing himself up in the Halls of Seeing, locking the door, crawling into fetal position and cry while he listens to Linkin Park and Blink 182 music.</P> <P>Venekor: "How could this happen to me? I made my mistake. Got no where to run, but life goes on and I'm fading away....."</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Now you made me picture that too.....but with "All Out of Love" playing in the background. :smileyvery-happy:<BR>

hahn_ba
09-13-2006, 10:22 PM
<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Hirfel wrote:<BR>Can anyone tell us who the lucky parents are?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Toxxulia the poison dragon and Trakanon the Sky Dragon. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is where Venekor's poison breath and gift of foresight comes from, and why Venekor has some of the same goods his father once coveted. Venekor is resentful of his father's pre-occupation with the Iksar and his old war with the Seblisian Empire. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As was said above; emo. </DIV>

Cusashorn
09-13-2006, 10:28 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> hahn_bard wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Hirfel wrote:<BR>Can anyone tell us who the lucky parents are?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Toxxulia the poison dragon and Trakanon the Sky Dragon. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is where Venekor's poison breath and gift of foresight comes from, and why Venekor has some of the same goods his father once coveted. Venekor is resentful of his father's pre-occupation with the Iksar and his old war with the Seblisian Empire. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As was said above; emo. </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>If I remember right, neither dragon was proven. It's all still speculation.

Krooner
09-13-2006, 10:45 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> hahn_bard wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Hirfel wrote:<BR>Can anyone tell us who the lucky parents are?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Toxxulia the poison dragon and Trakanon the Sky Dragon. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is where Venekor's poison breath and gift of foresight comes from, and why Venekor has some of the same goods his father once coveted. Venekor is resentful of his father's pre-occupation with the Iksar and his old war with the Seblisian Empire. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As was said above; emo. </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>If I remember right, neither dragon was proven. It's all still speculation.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Sounds like perfect material for a Jerry Springer show.<BR>

Kordran
09-14-2006, 12:03 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Warbird1 wrote:<BR><BR>Sounds like perfect material for a Jerry Springer show.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Today, we'll meet dragons with disfunctional Families. Learn about the struggles that our dragon guests have overcome despite their tumultuous upbringing... and next week, be sure to tune in for our exciting episode where we explore dragons with a secret lizardman fetish and their mothers who enable them...

Ktok
09-14-2006, 01:23 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> hahn_bard wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Hirfel wrote:<BR>Can anyone tell us who the lucky parents are?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Toxxulia the poison dragon and Trakanon the Sky Dragon. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is where Venekor's poison breath and gift of foresight comes from, and why Venekor has some of the same goods his father once coveted. Venekor is resentful of his father's pre-occupation with the Iksar and his old war with the Seblisian Empire. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As was said above; emo. </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>If I remember right, neither dragon was proven. It's all still speculation.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Trak is sited as the father in the KoS Prima Guide. Wasn't there a post a while back saying that the lore in the guides and Atlas were considered canon?

Nocturnal Aby
09-14-2006, 01:51 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kordran wrote:<BR> <P><BR>Today, we'll meet dragons with disfunctional Families. Learn about the struggles that our dragon guests have overcome despite their tumultuous upbringing... and next week, be sure to tune in for our exciting episode where we explore dragons with a secret lizardman fetish and their mothers who enable them...<BR></P> <HR> <P> </P> <P>Jeeze, Rank Harla Dar up there, where she's trying to resurrect her dead son and dad using froglok souls!  Talk about messed up families!</P> <P> </P> <P>Also, Venekor was also in EQ1, so he's been killed by adventurers many, many, many, many times.  Surprisingly tough for an Emo pansy, eh?</P> <P> </P> <P><BR> </P></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cusashorn
09-14-2006, 02:16 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ktok wrote:<BR> <BR>Trak is sited as the father in the KoS Prima Guide. Wasn't there a post a while back saying that the lore in the guides and Atlas were considered canon?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I dunno. Most of those strategy guides are made before the expansion is released, so a lot of it can be innaccurate for whatever reason. /shrug<BR></P> <P> </P> <P>Wait, are you sure Venekor was in EQlive? I remember <A href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=5998" target=_blank>a Horror Construct</A> in Cazic Thule, but Illia's Bestiary has no mention of Venekor.</P><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class=date_text>09-13-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:27 PM</span>

Vyrance
09-14-2006, 03:02 AM
Venekor isnt in EQ1<div></div>

Cusashorn
09-14-2006, 04:27 AM
<DIV>Thats what I thought. I encountered most of the dragons in the entire game but never remembered him.</DIV>

Homeskillet
09-14-2006, 05:19 AM
    I'm still willing to bet its Trakanon and Phara Dar.<div></div>

Cusashorn
09-14-2006, 05:30 AM
<DIV>Why would Trakanon, mortal enemy to the Ring of Scale, mate with Phara Dar, leader of the Ring of Scale?</DIV>

Kenazeer
09-14-2006, 06:19 AM
<blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>Why would Trakanon, mortal enemy to the Ring of Scale, mate with Phara Dar, leader of the Ring of Scale?</div><hr></blockquote>He thought she was cute? <span>:smileywink:</span><div></div>

Homeskillet
09-14-2006, 06:21 AM
<div></div>    [Removed for Content] off her dad, since Trakanon wasn't always mortal enemy of the Ring of Scale, and Phara Dar wasn't always the leader.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Homeskillet on <span class=date_text>09-13-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:25 PM</span>

IrishWonder
09-14-2006, 06:21 PM
<DIV>Why would a Montesquieu fall in love with a Capulet?</DIV> <DIV>Dost thou bite thy thumb at me?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Really looking forward to seeing where this "Who's Yo Daddy" storyline goes. I'm willing to bet on Toxxulia and Trakanon.</DIV><p>Message Edited by IrishWonder on <span class=date_text>09-14-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:22 AM</span>

Cusashorn
09-14-2006, 07:10 PM
<DIV>I'm sorry but a Romeo and Juliet reference DOES NOT APPLY to such a situation like Phara Dar.</DIV>

mallice
09-14-2006, 09:43 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Moorgard wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IrishWonder wrote:<BR> <DIV>Anyways, he's in the Halls of Seeing because he's a part of the Cult of the Awakened. The Halls are his personal domain. Venekor is a bit of a kleptomaniac, and has stolen things from other dragons... so he holed himself up in the Halls of Seeing and put non-sentient golems on patrol so that word doesn't get out about his stealing problem. If it did, he might be kicked from the Awakened. <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Well said.</P> <P>Venekor has behavioral problems due to his rather unfortunate upbringing. His mother was distant, basically dropping him off on the doorstep of the lizardmen in the Temple of Cazic-Thule. She wanted him taken care of, but didn't want to do it herself. His very existence reminds her of a choice she made, the outcome of which was not as she'd hoped.</P> <P>Relations with his father are no better, but there are extenuating circumstances. Even someone with great power may be blind to the things closest to them.</P> <P>Thus Venekor is prone to fits of anti-social behavior, acting out in ways not typical of dragons. What impact this will have on his future remains to be seen.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Can you say Ritalin?<BR>

Vorlak
09-14-2006, 10:24 PM
Im betting money its Trak because tolaspmuj aka jumpsalot spelled backwards is from sebilis where trak was and is now in HoS with vene. Either that or Vene wanted the uber robe as well.

Cusashorn
09-14-2006, 10:31 PM
<DIV>Or he stole him just like he stole much of Trak's other stuff..</DIV>

Lord Taranius
09-15-2006, 05:15 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>I'm sorry but a Romeo and Juliet reference DOES NOT APPLY to such a situation like Phara Dar.</div><hr></blockquote>Maybe it's more of a War of the Roses thing, then...I can see Phara Dar throwing something a lot nastier than plates if she ever got [Removed for Content] at <i><font color="#ff6600">Trakanon</font></i>.Ouch...<i><font color="#ff6600">Edit: Fixed...bleh, stupid post subjects sticking in your head.</font></i><div></div><p>Message Edited by Lord Taranius on <span class=date_text>09-14-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:16 PM</span>

IrishWonder
09-15-2006, 05:41 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>I'm sorry but a Romeo and Juliet reference DOES NOT APPLY to such a situation like Phara Dar.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Oooh... I got a caps reply from Cusashorn. I'm special!</P> <P>And, I'm sorry that my innocent post upset you, Cusashorn... next time I'll try to be more sensitive to your tyrannical philosophies and self-imposed superiority in all things lore. Though... two individuals, each from two different factions who hate each others' guts, still managing to find love..... how can you not find similarities to that in Romeo and Juliet? Do explain...</P>

Razorbak
09-15-2006, 06:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Moorgard wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IrishWonder wrote:<BR> <DIV>Anyways, he's in the Halls of Seeing because he's a part of the Cult of the Awakened. The Halls are his personal domain. Venekor is a bit of a kleptomaniac, and has stolen things from other dragons... so he holed himself up in the Halls of Seeing and put non-sentient golems on patrol so that word doesn't get out about his stealing problem. If it did, he might be kicked from the Awakened. <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Well said.</P> <P>Venekor has behavioral problems due to his rather unfortunate upbringing. His mother was distant, basically dropping him off on the doorstep of the lizardmen in the Temple of Cazic-Thule. She wanted him taken care of, but didn't want to do it herself. His very existence reminds her of a choice she made, the outcome of which was not as she'd hoped.</P> <P>Relations with his father are no better, but there are extenuating circumstances. Even someone with great power may be blind to the things closest to them.</P> <P>Thus Venekor is prone to fits of anti-social behavior, acting out in ways not typical of dragons. What impact this will have on his future remains to be seen.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Can you say Ritalin? <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Man, I couldn't even imagine what sort of prescription strength a dragon would need!  But I bet it comes in chewy tables with life like shapes of gnomes and halflings</DIV>

dizzi73
09-22-2006, 10:50 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Why would Trakanon, mortal enemy to the Ring of Scale, mate with Phara Dar, leader of the Ring of Scale?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Because one night he went out and had too much beer. So much in fact that he got talking with an attractive shiny scaled female, whom on later observation turned out to be a mortal enemy of all he held dear. He looked down at her, in morning's first light and realised that if he cut off his wing to slide out of bed from under her that he would endlessly fly in circles...so instead he put cotton buds in her nostrils and disappeared out of the window while she was sneezing.</P> <P>And so started the life of many a Linkin Park fan.</P> <P>Amen.</P>

Ama
09-26-2006, 10:00 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zarfto wrote:<BR> So Venekor is Emo basically. <P>Message Edited by Zarfto on <SPAN class=date_text>09-13-2006</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>10:47 AM</SPAN><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Darnit. now i've got this mental image of Venekor holing himself up in the Halls of Seeing, locking the door, crawling into fetal position and cry while he listens to Linkin Park and Blink 182 music.</P> <P>Venekor: "How could this happen to me? I made my mistake. Got no where to run, but life goes on and I'm fading away....."</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>MAKE....THE LAUGHING STOP!!! I swear i'm laughing so hard i'm crying Cusashorn, Curse you!!!:smileyvery-happy:</P> <P>As for the Venekor Popping out a chest all I can say where are his pockets to put the chest in with the same being said for all dragons. :smileywink:<BR></P>

BasNamhaid
09-28-2006, 09:49 PM
<P>Why can't he die and respawn like the rest of us do.. </P> <P>Life/Death cycle may be somewhat different in this fantasy realm.. </P>

IrishWonder
09-29-2006, 11:44 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> BasNamhaid wrote:<BR> <P>Why can't he die and respawn like the rest of us do.. </P> <P>Life/Death cycle may be somewhat different in this fantasy realm.. </P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Players respawning upon death is a game mechanic. This can't be mixed up with the lore of the game. If we couldn't respawn, there'd be no game.</P> <P>Now, priests reviving fallen adventurers is something entirely different... and that is possible within the confines of Norrath, not just game mechanics.</P>

Ama
09-30-2006, 06:06 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IrishWonder wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> BasNamhaid wrote:<BR> <P>Why can't he die and respawn like the rest of us do..</P> <P>Life/Death cycle may be somewhat different in this fantasy realm..</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Players respawning upon death is a game mechanic. This can't be mixed up with the lore of the game. If we couldn't respawn, there'd be no game.</P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>Now, priests reviving fallen adventurers is something entirely different... and that is possible within the confines of Norrath, not just game mechanics.</FONT></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I don't know about that and I think its just possible within the realm of the game mechanics.  The healing/warding aspect I can understand within the realm of lore but when it comes to "reviving" someone that's bordering imho. </P> <P>For reviving to be possible there may have to be several levels of "death" with the first stage easily reversable.  A person is wounded and dieing but the priest is able to quote "Revive them".  However if a person gets decapitated I don't think you're gonna see that guy/gal coming back to life unless a necromancer brings em back to life. </P>

psubull
10-19-2006, 02:20 PM
Trakanon was once a member of the Ring of Scale.  When the Ring of Scale discussed ways to combat the imminent threat that was the iksar, he offered a "direct destruction of the iksar" idea to the Ring, and his suggestion was shunned aside.  With a few of the younger dragons, Trakanon, the poison dragon, attacked the iksar capital of Sebilis against the permission of the Ring of Scale.  Mortally wounded in this battle, Trakanon turns himself undead -- becoming the undead dragon we all saw in EQLive.  Being undead caused him to lose his mind, and thus was marked as an enemy to the Ring.Being a once proud member of the Ring of Scale, it is VERY probable that Trakanon mated with Phara Dar to create Venekor before the attack on Sebilis.  How long are dragons pregnant?  How long do dragon babies take to hatch?<div></div>

psubull
10-19-2006, 02:21 PM
And I'm a bit dissatisfied that Tolapumj was respelled Tolapmuj in EQ2.  Maybe Jumpalot isn't the same Jmupalot that we knew and loved<div></div>

Cusashorn
10-19-2006, 06:03 PM
<DIV>I doubt a froglok would live that long.</DIV>

psubull
10-25-2006, 08:13 PM
Tolapumj was an undead froglok, forgot to mention that.They live for freaking ever.<div></div>

TheWays
10-27-2006, 04:13 AM
<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>psubullet wrote:Trakanon was once a member of the Ring of Scale.  When the Ring of Scale discussed ways to combat the imminent threat that was the iksar, he offered a "direct destruction of the iksar" idea to the Ring, and his suggestion was shunned aside.  With a few of the younger dragons, Trakanon, the poison dragon, attacked the iksar capital of Sebilis against the permission of the Ring of Scale.  Mortally wounded in this battle, Trakanon turns himself undead -- becoming the undead dragon we all saw in EQLive.  Being undead caused him to lose his mind, and thus was marked as an enemy to the Ring.Being a once proud member of the Ring of Scale, it is VERY probable that Trakanon mated with Phara Dar to create Venekor before the attack on Sebilis.  How long are dragons pregnant?  How long do dragon babies take to hatch?<div></div><hr></blockquote>Close...but not quite all there.Trakanon did want to take a direct approach to dealing with the Iksar, but Jaled Dar (leader of the ring of scale) along with other members of a high council decided that indirect measures would be best.  Jaled Dar did denounce Trakanon and told him to stand down.  After several mediocre attempts by the Ring of Scale to quell the growning iksar empire, Trakanon took matters into his own hands an sunk a fleet of iksar ships while their emperor was on board.  As a direct result of this, Ganak (the last of the iksar emperors) took the war directly to the dragons ultimately fighting Jaled Dar himself while riding a winged mount - both were detroyed in an impressive explosion and the remains of the great child of Veeshan now litter the region outside Cabalis known as the Field of Bone.Trakanon, interestingly, was not banished from the Ring of Scale directly after his attack on the iksar fleet, however after the death of Jaled Dar, Trakanon razed the iksar capital of Sebilis and it is believed that he spent the remainder of his days more or less in hiding there from attacks by the surviving members of the Ring of Scale.  Something that has often been of debate....was Trakanon truly undead when he was fought in EQ1?  He is a poison dragon after all, who's to say that he isn't simply in a decayed state (though very much alive).  Infact, there were two versions of Trakanon in Sebilis, they were virtually identical, except the latter was spawned as part of the bard epic weapon quest and could only be spawned after trakanon was destroyed.  And this second version was the only one that dropped the undead dragon sinews and undead dragongut strings for the quest.There is no evidence that he was mortally wounded and turned himself undead, he simply chooses to surround himself with undead servants and golems.* btw, Jaled Dar was mate of Phara Dar and father of Harla Dar - if Trak and Phara did mate, that would put it more in the realm of Lancelot and Gwenevere than Romeo and Juliet.</div>

Pyrrhx
10-27-2006, 01:38 PM
<DIV>Trakanon + Toxulia</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=10861&query.id=18355#M10861" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=10861&query.id=18355#M10861</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"Moorgard wrote:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Though not seen in any location currently accessible in our Norrath, the impact of Toxxulia's presence has been felt by those who have encountered her wayward child. <P>===========================<BR>Steve Danuser, a.k.a. Moorgard<BR>Game Designer, EverQuest II "</P> <P>Venekor is probably the most <EM>wayward</EM> of the dragons in game.</P> <P> </P></DIV><p>Message Edited by Pyrrhx on <span class=date_text>10-27-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:39 AM</span>