The Evil of Norrath

[Ama]

<DIV>I need to ask my fellow lore brethern about the supposed "Boss Monsters" of the different areas of Norrath and why they are always evil. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So far the only one I have seen that is not evil is Vaurn Scuttlebrow inside a castle on a hill near windstalker village.  Course he could have been sleeping while I was looking in on him. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Antonica: Vorn/Vaurn Scuttleborw</DIV> <DIV>Common Lands: ?</DIV> <DIV>Thundering steppes: Cold Tooth</DIV> <DIV>Nektulos Forest: Agedalieas *sp*</DIV> <DIV>Zek: General outside DFC</DIV> <DIV>Enchanted lands: ?</DIV> <DIV>Lavastorm: Solusek's Fist *I think thats it the guy in the lava*</DIV> <DIV>Feerrott: Vaz'Gok the Cursed</DIV> <DIV>Sinking Sands: Terrortantula</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I mean how did these monsters come to be and what made them become the boss monsters of their respective realms? I know a little about Vaz'Gok the Cursed and how he was turned into that giant golem but i'm unsure of his past. </DIV><p>Message Edited by Amana on <span class=date_text>08-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:58 PM</span>

[Gannor]

Well, Terrorantula has been a rather elusive and biting legend for many generations, dating back before the Cataclysms. Aye. In the Southern Desert of Ro, the Terrorantula would come out on rare occasion, often while people hunted down the Ancient Cyclops for his treasured ring.(http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=3453)See for yourself.<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Amana wrote:<BR> <DIV>I need to ask my fellow lore brethern about the supposed "Boss Monsters" of the different areas of Norrath and why they are always evil. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So far the only one I have seen that is not evil is Vaurn Scuttlebrow inside a castle on a hill near windstalker village.  Course he could have been sleeping while I was looking in on him. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Antonica: Vorn/Vaurn Scuttleborw</DIV> <DIV>Common Lands: ?</DIV> <DIV>Thundering steppes: Cold Tooth</DIV> <DIV>Nektulos Forest: Agedalieas *sp*</DIV> <DIV>Zek: General outside DFC</DIV> <DIV>Enchanted lands: ?</DIV> <DIV>Lavastorm: Solusek's Fist *I think thats it the guy in the lava*</DIV> <DIV>Feerrott: Vaz'Gok the Cursed</DIV> <DIV>Sinking Sands: Terrortantula</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I mean how did these monsters come to be and what made them become the boss monsters of their respective realms? I know a little about Vaz'Gok the Cursed and how he was turned into that giant golem but i'm unsure of his past. </DIV> <P>Message Edited by Amana on <SPAN class=date_text>08-28-2006</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>12:58 PM</SPAN><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Well its not like there are extensive detailed histories on every last creature that roams the world or anything, so I can't really answer for All of them...</P> <P> </P> <P>Most of these epic bosses are just legendary creatures who have made a name for themselves. Coldtooth and Terrorantula are just those creatures that some old sea-salt mariner would likely explain tell you one night in a tavern after a few drinks. They're just creatures who are protective of thier territory and have made a name for themselves by being extremely aggressive to just about anything that comes near it. You know the story. Those monsters where only you were lucky enough to escape and run away while all your crewmates got slaughtered mercilessly and stuff like that.</P> <P>Terrorantula's size alone justifies it's name and legend. That spider in Nektulos forest as well. Kinda like Shelob from Lord of the Rings.</P> <P> </P> <P>Solusek's Fist actually does have some backstory. It was created by Najena to help protect Lavastorm from invading forces against Nagafen and Najena.</P>

[Gannor]

I thought Magolemus was the Champion of Najina? (Saving Soles)<div></div>

[Jetrauben2]

<DIV>Because Eq2 is, like most fantasy, ultimately a 'heroic' story. That's why all the major plotlines have you fighting against a greater evil. There's also the fact that evil may attack other evils, but good rarely attacks other goods.</DIV>

[Schaestm]

<DIV>there used to be lore writeups on some of the epics, might want to look for that.. some gnome they had, he did writeups to explain almost every t5 contested mob plus a few of the mobs in spirits of the lost too.  They seem to have given up on that for t6 and t7 tho, which is kinda a shame I liked reading those ..</DIV>

[Ama]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Schaestmos wrote:<BR> <DIV>there used to be lore writeups on some of the epics, might want to look for that.. some gnome they had, he did writeups to explain almost every t5 contested mob plus a few of the mobs in spirits of the lost too.  They seem to have given up on that for t6 and t7 tho, which is kinda a shame I liked reading those ..</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Well there are two people that come to mind but 1 is a halfling named Honey Pineywine *sp* who stands near the QH bank.  She wrote the book about the drakota lore and their dealings with how they caried about their lives.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There is one person who I asume is a gnome but I don't know anything about is Tinmizer the gnome.  One place I saw his creations was in Nektropos castle guarding the basement where Lord Everling resides.  Anyone know anything about this Tinmizer and his/her odd creations?<BR></DIV>

[Mirander_1]

<div><blockquote><hr>Amana wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Schaestmos wrote: <div>there used to be lore writeups on some of the epics, might want to look for that.. some gnome they had, he did writeups to explain almost every t5 contested mob plus a few of the mobs in spirits of the lost too.  They seem to have given up on that for t6 and t7 tho, which is kinda a shame I liked reading those ..</div> <hr> </blockquote> <div>Well there are two people that come to mind but 1 is a halfling named Honey Pineywine *sp* who stands near the QH bank.  She wrote the book about the drakota lore and their dealings with how they caried about their lives.</div> <div> </div> <div>There is one person who I asume is a gnome but I don't know anything about is Tinmizer the gnome.  One place I saw his creations was in Nektropos castle guarding the basement where Lord Everling resides.  Anyone know anything about this Tinmizer and his/her odd creations?</div><hr></blockquote>I think Schae is talking about those Proffessor Coggelsworth (think that's right) articles on the website.  If you search through the EQ2Players archives you might be able to find them</div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Pearl Honeywine also wrote the book on Bixies, but that's not related.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Magnamoleus or whatever it's called is her NEW protector. The Fist of Ro's history is explained in one of the books. Fire and Ice I think it was.</DIV>

[Ama]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Pearl Honeywine also wrote the book on Bixies, but that's not related.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Magnamoleus or whatever it's called is her NEW protector. The Fist of Ro's history is explained in one of the books. Fire and Ice I think it was.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Hmm that is possible and i'll deffinately go searchin for Tinmizer as well as professor Cogesslworth.  I'm betting Tinmizer's inventions may crop up during our exploration of the elvan lands that have been rediscovered. 

[RaphaNissi]

<div><blockquote><hr>Amana wrote:<div></div> Hmm that is possible and i'll deffinately go searchin for Tinmizer as well as professor Cogesslworth.  I'm betting Tinmizer's inventions may crop up during our exploration of the elvan lands that have been rediscovered. <hr></blockquote>I know there is some information on these boards about him.  I think you are right, and we will probably see him in Faydwer.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[DreamerClou]

Speaking of evil, when are the developers going to create a dungeon filled with high elves and wood elves?  Not undead ones, but elves in the flesh.  I would love to have a dungeon / castle filled with goodie elves!

[Mirander_1]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>DreamerCloud9 wrote:<div></div>Speaking of evil, when are the developers going to create a dungeon filled with high elves and wood elves?  Not undead ones, but elves in the flesh.  I would love to have a dungeon / castle filled with goodie elves!<hr></blockquote>Well, we are going to Faydwer in a couple months, who knows what can happen <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span></div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>yeah keep dreaming.</DIV>

[Renita_Serafim]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DreamerCloud9 wrote:<BR> Speaking of evil, when are the developers going to create a dungeon filled with high elves and wood elves?  Not undead ones, but elves in the flesh.  I would love to have a dungeon / castle filled with goodie elves!<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>They had something like this in Champions: Return to Arms where you could take an optional side quest that allowed you to go and pillage Kelethin. It'd be great if SOE did this with Felwithe in EoF for all of the evil characters.

[Ama]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Astralmage wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DreamerCloud9 wrote:<BR> Speaking of evil, when are the developers going to create a dungeon filled with high elves and wood elves?  Not undead ones, but elves in the flesh.  I would love to have a dungeon / castle filled with goodie elves!<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>They had something like this in Champions: Return to Arms where you could take an optional side quest that allowed you to go and pillage Kelethin. It'd be great if SOE did this with Felwithe in EoF for all of the evil characters.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Well in one post vhalen did talk about a lunatic in the Freeport Asylum. </P> <P>*Curtsey of Vhalen*</P> <P>Norrathians have returned from the treacherous seas in the northern territories of the Shattered Lands. With them came wondrous tales of sights never seen One of these tales is said to be a glint of light in a deep frozen atoll. The chill of that fills the bowl formed by the steep cliffs of the atoll makes visibility nearly impossible, yet, a ship dared to brave the mist. What they found was deadly to say the least. Only one sailor made it back, the same cannot be said for his sanity. He ended up in the padded cells of the Freeport Infirmary and Asylum. He told a tale of a glint of light shining in the mist. His captain forced the ship into the thick white fog and onward to this glint. They found a frozen tower, an elven tower. This tower seemed to offer no access, but apparently it did withstand a powerful blast of cold wind. This blast froze the tower, made evident by the long thick icicles that stretch off to one side. The sailor said they found a breach within the icy armor of the tower. They all entered, but only one made it out. His mind gone, all he could mutter was the word, "Fayspire". How such a madman managed to sail that ship out of there is a mystery just like the frozen atoll that cannot be found on any map.</P> <P>*End Vhalen*</P> <P>Deffinately makes me wonder what horrors lie within the Fayspire if it indeed still stands.  It also has to make you think if there are high elves/wood elves that were turned to a dark side during the shattering.</P>

[Pyrrhx]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Amana wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>Deffinately makes me wonder what horrors lie within the Fayspire if it indeed still stands.  It also has to make you think if there are high elves/wood elves that were turned to a dark side during the shattering.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Nah, they're all dead because the Greyvax has taken up residence there after being released from his statuary prison.<BR></DIV>

[Grozmok]

<div><blockquote><hr>Amana wrote:<div></div><div> </div> <div>There is one person who I asume is a gnome but I don't know anything about is Tinmizer the gnome.  One place I saw his creations was in Nektropos castle guarding the basement where Lord Everling resides.  Anyone know anything about this Tinmizer and his/her odd creations?</div><hr></blockquote><a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/bestiary.html?eq2mob=2249" target=_blank>Tinmizer?</a></div>

[RaphaNissi]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Grozmok wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>Amana wrote:<div></div><div> </div><div>There is one person who I asume is a gnome but I don't know anything about is Tinmizer the gnome.  One place I saw his creations was in Nektropos castle guarding the basement where Lord Everling resides.  Anyone know anything about this Tinmizer and his/her odd creations?</div><hr></blockquote><a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/bestiary.html?eq2mob=2249" target="_blank">Tinmizer?</a></div><hr></blockquote>He is a relative of the one Amana is refering to.  You can find some information on the original if you search on these boards including a <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=10218&query.id=148150#M10218" target="_blank">post by Vhalen</a>.</div><p>Message Edited by RaphaNissi on <span class=date_text>08-30-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:10 AM</span>

[Ama]

<P><FONT color=#ff0000>*From Vhalen*</FONT></P> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000>Meldrath and Tinmizer are legends and would never be forgotten among the gnomes. It is said in the secret circles of the tinkerer legends that Meldrath's curse lingered within the ink of the some of the most complex clockwork blueprints ever created. Although many of these blueprints were destroyed before any construction could begin, there is said to be a few still fluttering about the world of the tinkerers.  Well, that is what I hear. Who knows if it's true? Let's hope not. I am sure any designs by Meldrath would lead to negative consequences for all. Then again, I hear that just looking at these blueprints can drive a tinkerer terminally insane. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000>Tinmizer's contraptions were always some of the greatest and most innovative ever created. Most of the time, no one could figure out how to use them. Only Tinmizer knew how to use his devices properly. Some of his greatest creations have been stolen and you can sometimes, if you are extremely lucky, be found within the dark warehouses of hidden citadels being horded by villains that have lost too many minions in an attempt to use the device. Tinmizer vanished near the end of the Age of Turmoil, around the same time the T.B.I. learned about Big Bynn. (Is there really a T.B.I.?) Hasten Bootstrutter was the last person I heard of that was tracking the trail of him, but he's vanished as well. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000>*End quote*</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for the link rapha but this adds a bit more mystery answering only a couple of questions for me.  I had never even heard of this Meldrath person till a looked at vhalen's post here. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Unfortunately I do not know the actual lore of ak'anon but was it the shattering that doomed it or could it have been Meldrath's insane inventions?  I also have to wonder where this gnome got his inspiration for some of his ideas.  Gnomes are deffinately some interesting people I have to say but I guess they can be some of the most dangerous too if they put their minds to it.</DIV>

[KniteShayd]

<P><BR> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Unfortunately I do not know the actual lore of ak'anon but <FONT color=#ff3399>was it the shattering that doomed it or could it have been Meldrath's insane inventions</FONT>?  I also have to wonder where this gnome got his inspiration for some of his ideas.  Gnomes are deffinately some interesting people I have to say but I guess they can be some of the most dangerous too if they put their minds to it.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I heard from one of the spoilers that the clockworks in general went on the fritz in ak'anon. </P> <P>...If thats what your talkin about, in EoF...</P> <P>:smileyindifferent:</P>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>There was always a Rogue Clockwork faction in Eqlive. I highly doubt that Luclin blowing up would suddenly make tons of clockworks go rogue and take over the city. Meldrath is more likely the cause.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Well, the Evil Meldrath, anyway. The Good Meldrath is probably stuck in the Plane of Knowledge or the Plane of Innovation for all eternity.</DIV>

[KniteShayd]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> KniteShayd wrote:<BR> <P><BR> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Unfortunately I do not know the actual lore of ak'anon but <FONT color=#ff3399>was it the shattering that doomed it or could it have been Meldrath's insane inventions</FONT>?  I also have to wonder where this gnome got his inspiration for some of his ideas.  Gnomes are deffinately some interesting people I have to say but I guess they can be some of the most dangerous too if they put their minds to it.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I heard from one of the spoilers that the clockworks in general went on the fritz in ak'anon. </P> <P>...If thats what your talkin about, in EoF...</P> <P>:smileyindifferent:</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Meldrath Killed me a few times as a lowbie, I wanted to punt him something fierce then.</DIV> <DIV>Who was the gnome in Crushbone? Can't remember... I hated him too. him and his crappy little pet...</DIV>

[KniteShayd]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>There was always a<FONT color=#ff00cc> Rogue Clockwork faction</FONT> in Eqlive. I highly doubt that Luclin blowing up would suddenly make tons of clockworks go rogue and take over the city. Meldrath is more likely the cause.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Well, the Evil Meldrath, anyway. The Good Meldrath is probably stuck in the Plane of Knowledge or the Plane of Innovation for all eternity.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>forgot about that.  I remmber now, killing all those [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] spiders and such for pieces for a quest or something.</P> <P>I hope the new expansion has some good models of those things, and better elemental models, not just cloudy orbs for the steam elementals that look like the ashland wisps in nek forest...</P>

[Ama]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> KniteShayd wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>There was always a<FONT color=#ff00cc> Rogue Clockwork faction</FONT> in Eqlive. I highly doubt that Luclin blowing up would suddenly make tons of clockworks go rogue and take over the city. Meldrath is more likely the cause.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Well, the Evil Meldrath, anyway. The Good Meldrath is probably stuck in the Plane of Knowledge or the Plane of Innovation for all eternity.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>forgot about that.  I remmber now, killing all those [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] spiders and such for pieces for a quest or something.</P> <P>I hope the new expansion has some good models of those things, and better elemental models, not just cloudy orbs for the steam elementals that look like the ashland wisps in nek forest...</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Actually there was a rogue clockwork village near Klicka'non aka Ak'anon in EQOA.  However in the Frontiers expansion pack a new monsterous clock work rogue machine reared its ugly head.  It was a half man/half spider creations if I remember correctly that was very powerful.  I still wonder where this monstrosity came from and who could have possibly created it. <BR>

[Ama]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>There was always a Rogue Clockwork faction in Eqlive. I highly doubt that Luclin blowing up would suddenly make tons of clockworks go rogue and take over the city. Meldrath is more likely the cause.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Well, the Evil Meldrath, anyway. The Good Meldrath is probably stuck in the Plane of Knowledge or the Plane of Innovation for all eternity.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Well I found something a bit interesting about our friend Tinmizer that vhalen didn't talk about.  I was messing around and found a stack of books that contained formulas for the spires and the norrathian codes of trade standards.  Below is a little exerpt from it and guess who makes an apperance at the Arcane Library in Freeport under Sir Lucan's orders.</P> <P><IMG src="http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3977/untitlednn8.jpg"></P> <P>It looks like Tinmizer headed up the entire project as well as another gnome named Dooly Jonkers.  I wonder if Tinmizer is still around and if we will get to meet this famous inventor in EoF?</P>