Spells/Combat Arts/Abilities and their histories......

[Bleedingheart]

<DIV>                    I was curious as to the histories and lore behind all those neat little karate chops,explosions and other little goodies that we all call spells,combat arts and abilities. What I mean by this is that when you look at a certain spell or combat art there is usually a figurehead  name attached to it <FONT color=#ffff33>(example: Firiona's Farting Flappery)</FONT> Is there a place of lore hidden somewhere that gives a detailed account of how each of these individuals came to develop said spells/arts and also lore on how the name was decided upon?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>                    <FONT color=#6633ff>Example:</FONT> Firiona <FONT color=#ffff33>(we will make her a monk in this case)</FONT> accidently stumbled upon a new martial art during a chili cook-off during a pre-game event for the Qeynos Claymores football team. The accidental discovery decimated a large portion of  Bayle Stadium in which the team plays it's home games. Hundreds were killed in the sudden outburst and scores more were wounded and/or missing. After waking up Firiona decided to hone this new martial art and name it the Farting Flappery.  Through many years of training and discipline Firoina  has mastered the ability to evict a thunderous explosion from her bottom and create a green and brown noxious miasma which affects everyone <FONT color=#ffff33>(friend and foe alike in this case)</FONT> in a large area surrounding her person up to a 5 mile radius. Those caught in the vapor are automatically subjected to severe bouts of nausea instantly upon contact. Those who remain <FONT color=#ffff33>(either voluntarily or otherwise)</FONT> have an increased chance to suffer comatose effects and eventually death. The shockwave effect has a travel radius of one-half a mile and obliterates all but the most sturdy of objects.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>                                                              -Stuff like that:smileyvery-happy:</DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Actually, it was Master Puab Closk of the Ashen Order who discovered the power of Arcane Combat. It was Quellious herself who gave him the knowledge to share with the monks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For a time it was good. Eventually, the Ashen Order decided that it would be ok to share thier secret with the Royal Antonican Guard of Qeynos.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Unfortunatly, Lucan raided a monk monestary found in the Commonlands and tortured the monks into revealing thier secrets. Sadly, Lucan gained the knowledge of Arcane Combat and shared it with Freeport.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And now we have Arcane Combat as the regular form of combat all over the world.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You can find the books that explain all this at the monk encampment inside the Cave of Knowledge in Pillars of Flame.</DIV>

[Bleedingheart]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Actually, it was Master Puab Closk of the Ashen Order who discovered the power of Arcane Combat. It was Quellious herself who gave him the knowledge to share with the monks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For a time it was good. Eventually, the Ashen Order decided that it would be ok to share thier secret with the Royal Antonican Guard of Qeynos.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Unfortunatly, Lucan raided a monk monestary found in the Commonlands and tortured the monks into revealing thier secrets. Sadly, Lucan gained the knowledge of Arcane Combat and shared it with Freeport.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And now we have Arcane Combat as the regular form of combat all over the world.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You can find the books that explain all this at the monk encampment inside the Cave of Knowledge in Pillars of Flame.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>                          -Thanks for the info :smileywink: Is there anything else to be found pertaining to all the other spell/combat art creators and how and why they created their repotoir of spell/combat arts? I am curious about how some of the bard songs came into being and the persons who created them. Spells and the certain individuals who created them etc etc.</P> <P>                          -I just used Firiona as an example <FONT color=#ffff33>(because shes hot!! hehe) </FONT>and somewhat well known. The rest I just tossed in as ummmm "Flappery" hehe. No buns.....err puns intended:smileyvery-happy:<FONT color=#ffff33><BR></FONT></P>

[Ordate]

<P>It would be a pretty big undertaking to find out if there is lore attatched to each and every spell and combat art.  Some are easy, but then ones that use a particular persons name become more difficult.  I would say the chances are there is lore about the person hidden in V's tomes at his desk, but I doubt much of it is in game.  General lines of spells you probably have the best bet of finding out information on.  Take for example Mystics.  They channel the spirit world for their power.  As such their spells are often a reflection of this.  Everything that has "grey" attatched is a refrence to the plane upon which souls travel to.  Spells such as Fields of the Grey (rez) to wrath of the grey (cold dd w/ snare).  Mystics also have a whole bunch of spells with the word Umbral in them.  I think Umbral Plains is another name for The Grey but Im not 100% sure.</P> <P> </P> <P>On a seperate note as I wrote this I was thinking of the Exp. pack for EQ1 Shadows of Luclin.  Two zones in there were "The Grey" and "The Umbral Plains".  I never payed it much attention at the time.  But I do find it [Removed for Content] that there would be two zones that have names that are so deeply mixed with the afterlife.</P>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Nope.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Puab Closk was the one who was given the knowledge of Arcane Combat. Once Arcane Combat was learned by everyone else, they just applied the knowledge to thier own classes and styles. It's not like there's Bard Arcane Combat and Berzerker Arcane Combat and Ranger Arcane Combat or anything.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There's just Arcane Combat.</DIV>

[Mirander_1]

<div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>Nope.</div> <div> </div> <div>Puab Closk was the one who was given the knowledge of Arcane Combat. Once Arcane Combat was learned by everyone else, they just applied the knowledge to thier own classes and styles. It's not like there's Bard Arcane Combat and Berzerker Arcane Combat and Ranger Arcane Combat or anything.</div> <div> </div> <div>There's just Arcane Combat.</div><hr></blockquote>Well, bards probably incorporate their own brand of spell-music into their combat arts, but besides that what you say is likely true</div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>No go read the books I told about for yourself. Basicly, all the different classes use Arcane Combat in thier own style, but its not like there are different types of Arcane Combat. All it is, is focusing energy into your attacks.</DIV>

[Bleedingheart]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Nope.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Puab Closk was the one who was given the knowledge of Arcane Combat. Once Arcane Combat was learned by everyone else, they just applied the knowledge to thier own classes and styles. It's not like there's Bard Arcane Combat and Berzerker Arcane Combat and Ranger Arcane Combat or anything.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There's just Arcane Combat.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>                    So ...if my understanding on this is correct........People like Selo <FONT color=#ffff33>(from the Selo travel song line fame)</FONT> learned his singing from Puab or someone taught by Puabs teachings? Then Selo later renamed all his songs after himself <FONT color=#ffff33>(Selo's Song of Travel for example) </FONT>?  And Firiona wasn't the first person to create the Farting Flappery art when she ate that weird batch of chili that tasted like Pepto-flavored kerosene then afterwards chased it all down with warm ale and a giant bowl of vanilla ice cream? How about all the other famous "inventors"? I know there are quite a few of  'em out there but atm I cannot recall any other names.</P> <P>                    On a side note I think it would be cool to witness one of Firiona's "Flapperys"......from a very safe distance rofl!!! :smileyvery-happy:</P> <P>Message Edited by Bleedingheart on <SPAN class=date_text>08-29-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>04:29 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Bleedingheart on <span class=date_text>08-29-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:31 AM</span>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>uhhhhh no.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Selo was dead long before Puab Closk discovered Arcane Combat, and Arcane Combat would go on to completely nullify the effectiveness of the old version of Selo's Song of Travel.</DIV>

[KniteShayd]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>uhhhhh no.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Selo was dead long before Puab Closk discovered Arcane Combat, and Arcane Combat would go on to completely nullify the effectiveness of the old version of Selo's Song of Travel.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Arcane combat would not have anything to do with buffs.  Bards have thier arts separate than thier songs.  songs are considered a form of spell art.  it is the same concept of arcane combat, but applied to song, not physicality.</P> <P>You are failing to make the connection the a bard's songs in eq 2 were originally founded (for lack of a better word) or signature of those bards.  that's why they retained those names.</P> <P>take for instance cleric spell lines as well.  Symbol of Ryltan was an EQLive spell/buff.  it remains in EQ2 as such.  Ryltan was an NPC.  the lore behind him and his symbol is unknown to me, but regardless of that fact, the poster wanted to know the info like that.</P> <P><EM>Pretty swirling monk with batons</EM> move could have been someone's unique signature move.  more people saw it's effectiveness and worthiness, there fore it was taught.  One person may have started the movement, but styles and moves can originate elsewhere.  that is what we want to know. the who made it/discovered it and why it survived the years.</P> <P>just like kung fu, buddha is credited as the originator, but he didn't make every style and form of kung fu, he just pasted the knowladge of what could be to others.</P>

[Bleedingheart]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> KniteShayd wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>uhhhhh no.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Selo was dead long before Puab Closk discovered Arcane Combat, and Arcane Combat would go on to completely nullify the effectiveness of the old version of Selo's Song of Travel.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Arcane combat would not have anything to do with buffs.  Bards have thier arts separate than thier songs.  songs are considered a form of spell art.  it is the same concept of arcane combat, but applied to song, not physicality.</P> <P>You are failing to make the connection the a bard's songs in eq 2 were originally founded (for lack of a better word) or signature of those bards.  that's why they retained those names.</P> <P><FONT color=#ff66ff>take for instance cleric spell lines as well.  Symbol of Ryltan was an EQLive spell/buff.  it remains in EQ2 as such.  Ryltan was an NPC.  the lore behind him and his symbol is unknown to me, but regardless of that fact, the poster wanted to know the info like that.</FONT></P> <P><EM>Pretty swirling monk with batons</EM> move could have been someone's unique signature move.  more people saw it's effectiveness and worthiness, there fore it was taught.  One person may have started the movement, but styles and moves can originate elsewhere.  that is what we want to know. the who made it/discovered it and why it survived the years.</P> <P>just like kung fu, buddha is credited as the originator, but he didn't make every style and form of kung fu, he just pasted the knowladge of what could be to others.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>                         <FONT color=#ff33ff>-Yes this is what I'm interested in :smileytongue: I would love to see a list of all these spells/arts/abilities with a nice heaping of lore behind them and the people who created them. A huge undertaking no doubt if one doesn't exist but well worth it from a lore and roleplay perspective to draw info from.</FONT> <BR>