The Book of Sundering in Nektropos

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Has anyone ever managed to correctly guess the password of this book in Tribulations? I guessed incorrectly all 3 times and was a little disheartened that the book would actually remember me from the last time I went to the zone, so I couldn't try again to see if any of the other 3 choices were correct.</DIV>

[Fizwi]

I attempted all the choices, by running far enough to "break" the conversation after I had reached the end of all the branches.One hypothesis: there is no right answer, and he's just there to set up the rest of the zone, telling you where to find Everling.(The Cauldron, also a seeming dead end, is pretty funny...and Tinmizer's Army was completely unresponsive to me)<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Fizwick wrote:<BR>I attempted all the choices, by running far enough to "break" the conversation after I had reached the end of all the branches.<BR><BR>One hypothesis: there is no right answer, and he's just there to set up the rest of the zone, telling you where to find Everling.<BR><BR>(The Cauldron, also a seeming dead end, is pretty funny...and Tinmizer's Army was completely unresponsive to me)<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Did you get anything when you said Everling for the choice?</P> <P> </P> <P>BTW: the Cauldron responds better if you did the quest that it gives you from Nek Castle.</P>

[Fizwi]

Well, maybe I didn't follow <i>every </i>combination, but I did get every choice at least once.  The edited log (time spaces are due to my spaztic groupmate grabbing a sparklie...you get the idea):<hr size="2" width="100%"><font size="2">(1155454339)[Sun Aug 13 03:32:19 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Stop! You may go no further with this conversation. To proceed to my knowledge you must give me the password."(1155454339)[Sun Aug 13 03:32:19 2006] You say, "Hail, The Book of Sunder"(1155454343)[Sun Aug 13 03:32:23 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"What sort of knowledge do you contain?"(1155454343)[Sun Aug 13 03:32:23 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Don't try to fool me with your quick talk. I am a magic book! I have spent 200 years amongst the the most cryptic tomes in the city of Tanaan, and I mean the real Tanaan, not that second rate copy sitting in the nexus of the planes. Now, what is the password?"(115545449<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />[Sun Aug 13 03:34:58 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"Umm... Everling"(1155454499)[Sun Aug 13 03:34:59 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Incorrect! Try again."(1155454530)[Sun Aug 13 03:35:30 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"Umm... Theeral?"(1155454530)[Sun Aug 13 03:35:30 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Incorrect! Try again."(1155454535)[Sun Aug 13 03:35:35 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"Umm... How about Maltus?"(1155454535)[Sun Aug 13 03:35:35 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Incorrect! Try again."(1155454542)[Sun Aug 13 03:35:42 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Stop! You may go no further with this conversation. To proceed to my knowledge you must give me the password."(1155454542)[Sun Aug 13 03:35:42 2006] You say, "Hail, The Book of Sunder"(1155454543)[Sun Aug 13 03:35:43 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"What sort of knowledge do you contain?"(1155454543)[Sun Aug 13 03:35:43 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Don't try to fool me with your quick talk. I am a magic book! I have spent 200 years amongst the the most cryptic tomes in the city of Tanaan, and I mean the real Tanaan, not that second rate copy sitting in the nexus of the planes. Now, what is the password?"(1155454547)[Sun Aug 13 03:35:47 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"Umm... Oblivion."(1155454547)[Sun Aug 13 03:35:47 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Incorrect! Try again."(1155454550)[Sun Aug 13 03:35:50 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"Umm... Mor'Tael"(1155454550)[Sun Aug 13 03:35:50 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Incorrect! Try again."(1155454552)[Sun Aug 13 03:35:52 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"Umm... How about Sheila?"(1155454552)[Sun Aug 13 03:35:52 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Incorrect! Try again."(1155454572)[Sun Aug 13 03:36:12 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Stop! You may go no further with this conversation. To proceed to my knowledge you must give me the password."(1155454572)[Sun Aug 13 03:36:12 2006] You say, "Hail, The Book of Sunder"(1155454573)[Sun Aug 13 03:36:13 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"What sort of knowledge do you contain?"(1155454574)[Sun Aug 13 03:36:14 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Don't try to fool me with your quick talk. I am a magic book! I have spent 200 years amongst the the most cryptic tomes in the city of Tanaan, and I mean the real Tanaan, not that second rate copy sitting in the nexus of the planes. Now, what is the password?"(1155454603)[Sun Aug 13 03:36:43 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"Umm... Oblivion."(1155454603)[Sun Aug 13 03:36:43 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Incorrect! Try again."(1155454605)[Sun Aug 13 03:36:45 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"Umm... Mor'Tael"(1155454606)[Sun Aug 13 03:36:46 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Incorrect! Try again."(115545460<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />[Sun Aug 13 03:36:48 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"Umm... How about Maltus?"(1155454609)[Sun Aug 13 03:36:49 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Incorrect! Try again."(1155454610)[Sun Aug 13 03:36:50 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"Blast it!"(1155454610)[Sun Aug 13 03:36:50 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"You must be joking! Even a third rate scribe could guess better than that. Well, that is all the chances you get. Now I must follow my magical manuscript security protocol."(1155454614)[Sun Aug 13 03:36:54 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"What is the protocol?"(1155454614)[Sun Aug 13 03:36:54 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"The protocol is to reset the password until the book master can create a new one."(115545461<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />[Sun Aug 13 03:36:58 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"Who is the book master?"(115545461<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />[Sun Aug 13 03:36:58 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"The master is Lord Rikantus Everling, but I doubt even he can help. He has been unable to to gain access to my pages for quite some time now."(1155454642)[Sun Aug 13 03:37:22 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"How is that possible? He is the master."(1155454642)[Sun Aug 13 03:37:22 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Book master or not, the magical manuscript security protocol states that in order to create a new password you must first shout aloud the old password. Since he has forgotten the old password, no one can gain access to my knowledge. "(115545464<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />[Sun Aug 13 03:37:28 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"Oh well, what can a pile of pages have to say that is interesting anyways?"(115545464<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />[Sun Aug 13 03:37:28 2006] Akeka begins to play an augmentation song.(115545464<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />[Sun Aug 13 03:37:28 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Excuse me! I am no mere magical tome. I contain information about the Rune of Sunder. You try and find that in your local library or tome wagon. I think not!"(1155454652)[Sun Aug 13 03:37:32 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"Then how can I learn about the Rune of Sunder?"(1155454653)[Sun Aug 13 03:37:33 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"About the only person I know that can tell you about it is Lord Rikantus Everling himself, but he has not been the same since being divided. "(1155454656)[Sun Aug 13 03:37:36 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"What do you mean, divided?"(1155454656)[Sun Aug 13 03:37:36 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"I just know what I hear, and that is not much. If you want to know about the Rune of Sunder, and know the password, then I am your book. If you want to know about multiplicity as it applies to Everling, you'll have to ask the master."(1155454662)[Sun Aug 13 03:37:42 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"Where can I find the master?"(1155454663)[Sun Aug 13 03:37:43 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"I'd start by looking in the courtyard, at least that is where those shadowed beings were going to perform some binding ritual on him. Apparently he's been fighting his curse. "(1155454667)[Sun Aug 13 03:37:47 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"What shadowed beings were here?"(1155454667)[Sun Aug 13 03:37:47 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says to you,"Listen, I'd love to chit chat all day long, but as the magical manuscript security protocol states, don't speak to strangers, especially when they don't know the password. Farewell and remember, a book a day keeps the curses at bay."(1155454673)[Sun Aug 13 03:37:53 2006] You say to The Book of Sunder,"Farewell."(1155454680)[Sun Aug 13 03:38:00 2006] aNPC 4556175 The Book of Sunder:The Book of Sunder/a says, "There are only so many chances you get at answering the password before I cut you off."(1155454680)[Sun Aug 13 03:38:00 2006] You say, "Hail, The Book of Sunder"</font><hr size="2" width="100%"><font size="2"><font size="3">Everling -- OblivionTheeral -- Mor'TaelMaltus -- ShielaNektropous -- Blast!None of the 8 worked.</font></font><div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Well that takes care of that then. Just wanted to make sure to learn everything we could out of the book's dialogue.</DIV>

[Lyriel]

<P>I haven't gotten any where near the end of the zone yet, but I am curious: Have you tried shouting a password? Like, maybe "Password" or "Rikantus" or "Vul" - something that might make sense but is not on the list? The tome did say shouting the old password was the key... I would not be surprised if the correct choice was not on the list of options at all, and that actually <EM>shouting</EM> the correct word is the solution.</P> <P>My 2cp.</P> <P>Lyriel</P>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>The quest system doesn't work like that.</DIV>

[Jait]

<P>You're obviously going to have to find the password in order to get it as an option.  Every option you get starts with "Umm" indicating the character is just guessing.</P> <P> </P> <P>Either that or it's just a red herring.</P>

[Lyriel]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>The quest system doesn't work like that.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>And sparkly ?'s don't spawn monsters... except now they do.

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>its' easy to trigger items like Shineys to be traps.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>NPC's don't respond to /shout, /auction, /ooc, /group, /raid, /guild, or any other chat channel.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In EQlive you had to /say a certain phrase or word for a quest to advance but this system in EQ2 doesn't work that way.</DIV>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:its' easy to trigger items like Shineys to be traps.NPC's don't respond to /shout, /auction, /ooc, /group, /raid, /guild, or any other chat channel.In EQlive you had to /say a certain phrase or word for a quest to advance but this system in EQ2 doesn't work that way.<hr></blockquote>How do you know that for sure?

[Themaginator]

it just doesnt ok<div></div>

[Fizwi]

Also, the whole "shouting" bit is only to reset the password.  And only the book master can reset the password.  And the book master is Everling, not us.<div></div>

[Llewrend]

Just to confirm, shouting the password didn't work.

[KniteShayd]

<P>my only guess is to search the castle for a clickable item or something that may give you an image or pop something. then perhaps you'll be flagged to answer correctly through your "experiance or findings".  Or perhaps you needed to kill someone to get it, like the updates you got when you kill the orc in CL for Lightsone HQ...?</P> <P> </P>

[Zheni]

or you can just read, what Rikantus gave to you (book) and wait when you can continue there.<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>guys I was only trying to confirm if any of the 6 passwords led anywhere, which I discovered that since none of us are Rikantus Everling, none of us will ever find out whats inside it directly.</DIV>

[Shidonya]

<DIV>How did you get to answer so many times after my first failed attempt the book just basically tells me to leave.</DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>You aren't Lord Everling so it doesn't matter if you get the answer right or not.</DIV>