View Full Version : Poll: Which deity do you intend to worship now that the eight are revealed?
Well thats it then - we know the right.. now I want to ask you.... which deity are you intending to worship? For those that are behind on events, here are your choices:Qeynos ONLY:TunareMithaniel MarrQuelliousFreeport ONLY:InnoruukCazic ThuleRallos ZekNeutral (No restriction):Brell SerelisSolusek Ro----Developers have stated they understand the importance of a deity to a character and this will add quests and rewards/skills/items that will be meaningful for your choice. You will be able to change faction but your previous faction advancement will be erased (they also pointed out other deities will be added in the future which will follow this rule). Likewise if you wish to change to an opposite faction but 'were' allied to a deity, they wlll stop giving quests. i.e Follower of Tunare moving to Freeport = no more advancement for Tunare from then on.Anyway with those ground rules in place, who are you leaning towards?My choice - Solusek Ro - he embodies a lot of my characters personality - constantly connected with 'evil' although often misunderstood and actions seemingly erratic but in truth governed by certain internal choices, my character sadly can't follow his mother Tunare (Freeport Koada'dal) and considers that even though she has decided to turn her back to him, she can't do it forever. Until then the Lord of Flame will be the one that will assist him in his path (and the roleplay idea is that he sees a dream where a representative of Solusek speaks to him - same as with others that Solusek noticed would help guide his return and his future on Norrath again). So yes.. <font color="#ffcc33">Lord of Flame</font> here.<div></div>
Melchiah
07-28-2006, 09:44 PM
If the third neutral ends up being Veeshan, i'm going that way, but Cazic-Thule otherwise.
Cusashorn
07-28-2006, 09:46 PM
<DIV>Quellious. Always have. Always will.</DIV>
Vollux
07-28-2006, 09:53 PM
Innoruuk untill they find Bristlebane passed out under a tavern table somewhere and sober him up.<p>Message Edited by Vollux on <span class=date_text>07-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:53 PM</span>
Bubbanif
07-28-2006, 09:58 PM
I'm gonna worship Brell with my Gnome Illusionist and Rallos Zek with my Ogre Shadowknight.<div></div>
Xxile
07-28-2006, 09:58 PM
<FONT face="Courier New" color=#336600 size=4>Cazic-Thule</FONT>
Renita_Serafim
07-28-2006, 10:02 PM
<DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV><p>Message Edited by Astralmage on <span class=date_text>10-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:22 AM</span>
Tanatz
07-28-2006, 10:09 PM
<div></div><div></div><div></div>On my main who is a female Half Elf Troubador, it will be Quellious. The thought of maybe having to betray an otherwise neutral race / class because of the deity I envision her following sorta makes me cringe, but she must follow Quellious so it's a price I'll pay.My male Dark Elf Coercer will follow Rallos Zek.My male Freeportian Barbarian Berserker will follow Solusek Ro.My female Wood Elf Assasin will follow Innoruuk.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Tanatz on <span class=date_text>07-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:35 PM</span>
<P>Pineapple (rat brigand) is a staunch brell advocate :smileyhappy:</P> <P>Kaurin (wood elf monk) will wait to find out what Tunare and Quellious hand out as abilities before deciding :smileywink:</P> <P>Cixia (kerran mystic) just wants to smack all the gods around for thinking she needed them at all (however she'll probably sidle up towards mith since he'll most likely offer some sweet strength stuff) :smileysurprised:</P> <P> </P> <P>not surprisingly except for my rat all decisions will be based on the abilities/things each god will offer</P>
Evilcow
07-28-2006, 10:27 PM
<DIV>tunare for all my charecters i am a nature kind of guy :smileytongue:</DIV>
Themaginator
07-28-2006, 10:33 PM
i think i will be worshiping Solusek Ro but i dunno im a High Elf Conjurer and all though worshipping a god that represents the element of fire is an obvious choice for a conjurer the Elf side of me i saying "worship tunare! hug trees!" bah i cant decide <div></div>
Evilcow
07-28-2006, 10:35 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Themaginator wrote:<BR>i think i will be worshiping Solusek Ro but i dunno im a High Elf Conjurer and all though worshipping a god that represents the element of fire is an obvious choice for a conjurer the Elf side of me i saying <STRONG>"worship tunare! hug trees!"</STRONG> bah i cant decide <BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>psh if you worship tunare all nature hugs you :smileyvery-happy:
KniteShayd
07-28-2006, 10:40 PM
<P>Dbl post :smileysurprised:</P><p>Message Edited by KniteShayd on <span class=date_text>07-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:46 PM</span>
KniteShayd
07-28-2006, 10:40 PM
<P>My illus: Quellios, until Druzzil Ro or Morrel Thule become available if they ever do.</P> <P>My Wizzy: Sol Ro, ... duh. Unless E'ci becomes available.</P> <P>My others: </P> <P>Q Half-Elf Fury - Tunare, until Karana is available.</P> <P>Q Barbarian Dirge - Marr, unless Ayonae Ro becomes available</P> <P>High Elf Fury - Tunare </P> <P>Halfling Monk - Quellious </P> <P>Wood Elf Assasin - Innoruuk</P> <P>Half-Elf Ranger - Tunare</P> <P>Q Froglock Warlock - Marr, unless Luclin becomes available</P> <P> </P><p>Message Edited by KniteShayd on <span class=date_text>07-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:45 PM</span>
Harob
07-28-2006, 10:54 PM
Is there a list of all the gods and what they represent? I'm debating who Harobel will worship, if anyone at all.<div></div>
Renita_Serafim
07-28-2006, 10:57 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> <STRONG>Qeynos ONLY:</STRONG><BR><BR>Tunare:- Nature<BR>Mithaniel Marr:- Valour<BR>Quellious:- Tranquility<BR><BR><STRONG>Freeport ONLY:</STRONG><BR><BR>Innoruuk:- Hatred<BR>Cazic Thule:- Fear<BR>Rallos Zek:- War <P><STRONG>Neutral (No restriction):<BR></STRONG><BR>Brell Serelis:- The Underfoot<BR>Solusek Ro:- Fire</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><p>Message Edited by Astralmage on <span class=date_text>07-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:00 PM</span>
Coccinea_Maga
07-28-2006, 11:08 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Harobel wrote:<BR>Is there a list of all the gods and what they represent? I'm debating who Harobel will worship, if anyone at all.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><A href="http://lorenorrath.free.fr" target=_blank>Try this website</A>. If you look in the left hand column, there is a list of all the gods of EverQuest. All of the information on the site is taken either from game manuals or in-game books/converstaions.
<FONT color=#6633ff>Since my character is from Maj'Dul, it will have to be Solusek Ro.</FONT>
zixtent
07-28-2006, 11:10 PM
<DIV>My Woodelf Wizard- Solusek Ro</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My Eurdite Necro- probably Innoruuk not for sure yet</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My Dark Elf Defiler- Cazic Thule</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My Wood Elf Conj- Tunare</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My Barb Warden- Mithaniel Marr</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My High Elf Ilusionist- Quellious</DIV> <P>Message Edited by zixtent on <SPAN class=date_text>07-28-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>02:52 PM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by zixtent on <span class=date_text>07-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:54 PM</span>
Mirander_1
07-28-2006, 11:51 PM
<div></div>Solusek Ro for me. Should be self-evident as to why I would worship the patron god of wizards <span>:smileywink:</span><div></div>
zixtent
07-28-2006, 11:53 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mirander wrote:<BR> Solusek Ro for me. Should be self-evident as to why I would worship the patron god of wizards <SPAN>:smileywink:</SPAN><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Aye, I think the same way.
Axxon
07-29-2006, 12:18 AM
<P>Innoruuk, as always. </P>
Soldross
07-29-2006, 12:36 AM
Cazic-Thule.<div></div>
Tanatz
07-29-2006, 12:37 AM
I'm looking forward to having them worship gods that wouldn't seem like the obvious choice. ^^^<div></div>
Lyriel
07-29-2006, 01:02 AM
My main, a Koada'dal illusionist, will remain faithful to Tunare as she has from her beginnings. So will my Koada'dal templar. My Teir'dal necromancer will at least pay lip service to Innoruuk, on the theory that it couldn't hurt to cozy up to him (though at her core, she's more of an agnostic). Her twin sister, a brigand, will have to consider her options more thoroughly, though she also leans toward at least trying to get along with those who follow Innoruuk for expediency's sake. My halfling provisioner will hold out for Bristlebane, whenever he decides to stop napping and start behaving at least a little like an immortal again. The froglok paladin among my avatars will of course stay true to Mithaniel Marr. My Kerran troubador is rather unsure of what her ultimate choice will be.
For the guy stating that if Veeshan is the last, thats going to be their choice.. sorry thats not possible. You see developers have stated there will ONLY be eight worshipable deities and thats the ones listed. I know there are nine prophets and there is a 'lot' of debate in that huge thread in this forum on that. My thoughts is that the final deity is indeed Veeshan bringing together dragonkind to take back her world and the Eight are returning for their own agendas but most likely against Veeshan. But yes, if it is Her, she isnt a choice and as you can imagine it would be odd to worhsip a deity who cares little for your kind (no player character is dragonkin).<div></div>
Xyran
07-29-2006, 05:12 AM
My Dark Elf Dirge (tho may possibly turn to Troubador) will worship Solusek Ro.<div></div>
Troubor
07-29-2006, 09:05 AM
<P>I've already stated that my High Elf Paladin worships both Marr Twins with at least some nod toward Tunare, so if I'm only allowed one diety, then will be Marr. If one can actually do quests for both (or "split worship", much like how one can do more then one AA line) then I guess I'd focus on Marr more, but do some work for Tunare also.</P> <P>My RP son is also a paladin, his RP sister a ranger...I play the son, suspect he'd go more strictly Marr. Daughter and RP wife is of course up to the person playing them, but almost sure my daughter will do Tunare, not sure on Casey...as posted in the elven fertility thread, she's actually someone who was accidently gated into Norrath, so not sure if she will even pick a diety, follow whatever her husband picks or decide to pay some homage to one in game, while in RP still giving some homage to a diety from her old homeworld.</P> <P>Other alts...Noote is a Froglok, adopted son of Troubor, my main..so probably Marr. Not sure on the others yet, although most of my characters are good alligned....mostly don't play him now, but do have a low level monk I could see worshipping Quellious.</P> <P> </P><p>Message Edited by Arvig on <span class=date_text>07-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:05 PM</span>
Valeska
07-29-2006, 09:27 AM
Innoruuk! You had to ask? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>
Sedden
07-29-2006, 11:20 AM
Since my char is a Halfling Fury... I don't know if i want to worship one of those 8 gods = I mean Tunare would be a close choice but i still wanted Karana to be put in :smileysad: Karana just fits better with a Fury instead of Tunare. With the strike of thunder line and the Call of Storms spell.... It just feels like i'd be cheating on Karana rofl
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Valeska wrote:<BR>Innoruuk! You had to ask? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>x2</P> <P> </P>
necroking
07-29-2006, 12:31 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> VizP wrote:<BR>Well thats it then - we know the right.. now I want to ask you.... which deity are you intending to worship? For those that are behind on events, here are your choices:<BR><BR>Qeynos ONLY:<BR><BR>Tunare<BR>Mithaniel Marr<BR>Quellious<BR><BR>Freeport ONLY:<BR><BR>Innoruuk<BR>Cazic Thule<BR>Rallos Zek<BR><BR>Neutral (No restriction):<BR><BR>Brell Serelis<BR>Solusek Ro<BR><BR>----<BR>Developers have stated they understand the importance of a deity to a character and this will add quests and rewards/skills/items that will be meaningful for your choice. You will be able to change faction but your previous faction advancement will be erased (they also pointed out other deities will be added in the future which will follow this rule). Likewise if you wish to change to an opposite faction but 'were' allied to a deity, they wlll stop giving quests. i.e Follower of Tunare moving to Freeport = no more advancement for Tunare from then on.<BR><BR>Anyway with those ground rules in place, who are you leaning towards?<BR><BR>My choice - Solusek Ro - he embodies a lot of my characters personality - constantly connected with 'evil' although often misunderstood and actions seemingly erratic but in truth governed by certain internal choices, my character sadly can't follow his mother Tunare (Freeport Koada'dal) and considers that even though she has decided to turn her back to him, she can't do it forever. Until then the Lord of Flame will be the one that will assist him in his path (and the roleplay idea is that he sees a dream where a representative of Solusek speaks to him - same as with others that Solusek noticed would help guide his return and his future on Norrath again). So yes.. <FONT color=#ffcc33>Lord of Flame</FONT> here.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>booo im a qeynos warlock and i demand my rights to worship Cazic Thule come on like how is the queen gonna know *shifty eyes*</P> <P> </P>
Carodor
07-29-2006, 03:11 PM
I've been a monk of <font color="#ffff00">Quellious</font> from way back in EQlive.<div></div>
Samant
07-29-2006, 03:28 PM
<DIV>Unfortunately, my character (role-play wise) will have to remain neutral to the current choices of the returning powers as I have always followed the teachings of The Tribunal. However, I do not want to fall victim to not being able to get spiritual assistance that helps her adventure life as she makes small strides in Norrath. I really do not know enough about the powers that be, that fit along the lines of a Barbarian Berserker. If I chose someone for now till my original deity's made themselves know again, how they would feel about my limited betrayal.</DIV>
MrFurious99
07-30-2006, 12:47 AM
Cazic-Thule for now.Karana once he returns.<div></div>
TerraAki
07-30-2006, 09:44 PM
<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Quellious for my Half-elf Illusionist. </FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Either Veeshan or Bristlebane for my Ratonga Trobadour.</FONT></P>
wayfaerer
07-31-2006, 05:23 AM
Innoruuk, no question.<div></div>
Froglok Swashy: Mithaniel MarrHigh Elf Warlock: unsure, probably TunareOgre Monk: Quellios <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Dark Elf Warden (Q) Will probably have to betray back to FP to worship InnorruukDark Elf Coercer: Innorruuk from the start <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Kerra Mystic: QuelliousIksar Shadowknight: Cazic-Thule<div></div>
Phylok
07-31-2006, 07:36 PM
Tunare, no question about it.
Jezekie
07-31-2006, 07:41 PM
The Burning Prince, Solusek Ro. He looked very kewl in EQ1, not to mention he had plans to blow up everything with his bomb. He just reeks of Power and Destruction.What would be killer would be epicx4/fabled rewards akin to his Crown of Flame, his Golden Ring Mail and his Spear Of Fire as some one-handed mage staff of [Removed for Content] kicking.<div></div>
Willias
07-31-2006, 07:47 PM
Any iksar who doesn't worship Cazic Thule isn't really an iksar.That being said, my shadowknight and necro both plan to worship Thule.<div></div>
NocteBla
07-31-2006, 08:18 PM
Cazic-Thule, then when the 9th is revealed, I'll still be worshipping Cazic-Thule. When every other god they plan on releasing is released, I'll still be a die-hard Thulian.<div></div>
Hmmm...considering the ones I was hoping for aren't confirmed yet...My wizard - Solusek RoMy monk - QuelliousMy assassin - Cazic-ThuleMy inquisitor - Brell (she drinks hehe oh and she's dwarven)and then there's my Ratongan Ranger...I believe she will remain atheistic until someone finds Bristlebane. I <i>really</i> don't see her worshipping Tunare. For one, even though she betrayed quite young in life, well let's just say you can take the ratonga out of Freeport, but you can't take Freeport out of the ratonga. And two, it's just too cliche for a ranger to worship Tunare. Rats don't hug trees; we grind 'em down into furniture. lol<div></div>
DebasedMora
08-01-2006, 01:51 AM
<div></div><div></div>HEATHENS! BLASPHEMERS! You wretched dogs!... you diseased swine!... you troll dingleberries! You who would turn your backs on The Overlord be warned... the day of retribution will soon be at hand! The Militia, with the great lord Lucan D'Lere at the head, will once again purge the land of any of the flase-gods who dare show their vile countenances upon the Shattered Lands. The Militia will not stop with the false-gods however, we shall move foward and crush those foolish enough to believe these falicies preached by the so call "Nine Prophets"... You have been warned... tread carefully and guard your allegances well... for should you falter, the mighty Hand of Lucan shall cleave your body and soul asunder!You have been warned...Debased MoralsShadow Knight of the Seventieth Circle of PainServant of The Overlord<div></div><p><span class="time_text"></span></p><p>Message Edited by DebasedMorals on <span class=date_text>07-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:51 PM</span>
Dregor
08-01-2006, 02:00 AM
<div><blockquote><hr>NocteBlanc wrote:Cazic-Thule, then when the 9th is revealed, I'll still be worshipping Cazic-Thule. When every other god they plan on releasing is released, I'll still be a die-hard Thulian.<div></div><hr></blockquote>Exactly.</div>
FreaklyCreak
08-01-2006, 04:34 AM
<DIV>Tunare, Mother of All on my Warden. Prolly solusek ro on my Conj if he stays neutral.</DIV>
Iksar Ranger (may be assassin by the time EoF goes live) Sol Ro.He's the cutest.<div></div>
Desdichada
08-01-2006, 06:25 AM
<DIV>Since Terris is not coming any time soon, I will have to pay lip service to Innoruuk. I might look at Brell, or even Sol Ro, but I want a god with class and none that comes with the first weave have any. The best thing about following Innoruuk is that I can hate him with all my heart and still worship him. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
Cusashorn
08-01-2006, 07:05 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Desdichada wrote:<BR> <DIV>Since Terris is not coming any time soon, I will have to pay lip service to Innoruuk. I might look at Brell, or even Sol Ro, but I want a god with class and none that comes with the first weave have any. The best thing about following Innoruuk is that I can hate him with all my heart and still worship him. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Why not Cazic Thule instead? Like Father Like Daughter.
Renita_Serafim
08-01-2006, 11:03 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Desdichada wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The best thing about following Innoruuk is that I can hate him with all my heart and still worship him. </DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Finally! Somebody else who understands this often neglected piece of Innoruuk lore! You don't have to like him or even do what he says in order to worship him.</P><p>Message Edited by Astralmage on <span class=date_text>08-27-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:35 AM</span>
Whazy
08-01-2006, 08:10 PM
<DIV>My Gnome Conjuror: Brell</DIV> <DIV>My Wood-Elf Fury: Tunare</DIV> <DIV>My Troll Necromancer: Cazic Thule</DIV> <DIV>My Human Guardian: not sure</DIV> <DIV>My Frog Wizard: Marr or Sol Ro.</DIV>
Mirkwat
08-01-2006, 09:22 PM
<P>Stupid question...I'm a Ratongan Swashbuckler in Qeynos, but my deity is Brell. He's listed as a neutral deity. Aren't the Neutral deities only for Exiled?</P> <P>Kind of presents a challenge...</P>
<div></div>No - neutral deities are available to ALL regardless of faction. The number of permanent exiles is very very small, most are in transition from one place to another so it is highly unlikely that 'exiles' would ever be considered a seperate faction on their own. Developers are indicating that they are drawing towards exiles will be able to worship all deities (as opposed to being limited to just neutral deities) but if they later choose to move to a city and it conflicts with the faction requirements of the deity they are following, they will cease to advance with the deity from then on. Considering exiles are severely disadvantaged not only by lack of direct brokers (must play fence tax on both cities) and no city writs (which is rather big) AND no housing except Maj'dul. its not exactly a very popular choice except for a diehard rper that has worked it into their story to the point that they will suffer the ingame hardshop for the sake of their characters choice.. noble <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Anyway a couple of posts in this thread has really made me change my mind on my deity choice. I sometimes read that people would find it hard for a Koada'dal to worship Innoruuk but it seems to me that the Koada'dal would actually make the best followers of Innoruuk.. even better than the Tier'dal. Why? Because the Koada'dal HATE Innnorruk the most - for taking their royalty and turning them into the Tier'dal race. And what does Innorruk enjoy? Those that hate him above all others, an emotion he happily returns.There is this very interesting piece of lore in which Innoruuk boasts about the fact that he never actually did anything directly to the Koada'dal King and Queen after he abducted them except letting their own hatred fester and consume them so completely that they turned into a perfect manifestation of hatred and pretty much tormented and tortured each other. Sounds horrifying but sounds just about right.For my character, the fact that Tunare shuns him will be a very hard blow to take - the knowledge she 'will' forgive him if he gives up the dark mystic arts but he can not understand how his mother could 'ever' forsake him. After all, isnt the ultimate duty of every parent to forgive their children? And even if she is willing to one day, he doesnt understand what he has to be sorry for when all he sought was to use knowledge and power for 'good' and the concept of 'evil' was highly subjective in the first place!Innoruuk on the other hand likely simply wants followers who can fan hatred within - regardless of race and background. So if his representative contacts my character one day in a dream as one of many other 'prominant' characters that have had impacts on events, I can imagine this exchange:----<font color="#ccccff">Silthian: 'I hate you Innoruuk, all you represent, what you did to my kind - how dare you think I would follow you?'</font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff">Innoruuk: 'Indeed, and just how much do you hate me?'</font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff">Silthian: 'More than you can imagine - if I could, I would show you torment beyond you imagination, more than you ever did to our King and Queen. Immortal or not, I'll show you what real darkness is'</font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff">Innoruuk: Show me.... yes... let that hatred fester. With it will come that power you have always craved.</font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff">Silthian: If I ever have the chance, you will regret the day you ever came to me. </font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff">Innoruuk: And I hate you too just like I hate every one of your kind, every pitiful sniveling thing. And you see... 'this' is power. Come to me...</font><font color="#ccccff"></font><div></div>----<p>Message Edited by VizP on <span class=date_text>08-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:46 AM</span>
Wrapye
08-01-2006, 09:55 PM
<div></div>Since Innoruuk no longer considers the Tier'Dal to be his chosen, I see no reason for my coercer to follow him.I'd prefer Terris, but given she's not an option at present, it will have to be her father, Cazic.Ogre Guardian - Rallos ZekFroglok Mystic - Mithaniel Marr (of course)Human Fury (freeport based) - no idea at present. No good option for FP druids at present<div></div><p>Message Edited by sacremon on <span class=date_text>08-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:56 PM</span>
Mirkwat
08-01-2006, 10:31 PM
<P>I am actually quite surprised Bristlebane didn't make the cut, given the abundent nature of rogues & scouts in EQ2...</P> <P>Brell it is then...</P> <P>As for my Iksar Assassin, hmm...may have to go with Solusek on him...</P>
Desdichada
08-02-2006, 06:20 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Desdichada wrote:<BR> <DIV>Since Terris is not coming any time soon, I will have to pay lip service to Innoruuk. I might look at Brell, or even Sol Ro, but I want a god with class and none that comes with the first weave have any. The best thing about following Innoruuk is that I can hate him with all my heart and still worship him. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Why not Cazic Thule instead? Like Father Like Daughter.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Are Terris and Morrel related to Cazic? I always thought so until I read something recently that suggested they were not. In any case, Cazic Thule lacks the finesse of slow destruction by subtle messing with vulnerable brain. Much more elaborate then a vulgar Boooo! </P> <P> </P>
Cusashorn
08-02-2006, 06:29 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Desdichada wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Desdichada wrote:<BR> <DIV>Since Terris is not coming any time soon, I will have to pay lip service to Innoruuk. I might look at Brell, or even Sol Ro, but I want a god with class and none that comes with the first weave have any. The best thing about following Innoruuk is that I can hate him with all my heart and still worship him. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Why not Cazic Thule instead? Like Father Like Daughter.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Are Terris and Morrel related to Cazic? I always thought so until I read something recently that suggested they were not. In any case, Cazic Thule lacks the finesse of slow destruction by subtle messing with vulnerable brain. Much more elaborate then a vulgar Boooo! </P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Cazic Thule = God of Fear</P> <P>Terris Thule = Daughter of Cazic = God of Nightmares, which is part of fear.</P> <P>Morrel Thule = Son of Cazic = God of Dreams = The Black Sheep of the family (he's good.)</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>As for the subtle finesse of messing with a vulnerable brain.... You'd be surprised.</P> <P> </P> <P>All it takes is a little bit of fear to turn into paranoia, which in turn leads to insanity. He does a much better job at messing with someone's head than Innoruuk did to Saryrn.</P><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class=date_text>08-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:31 PM</span>
Desdichada
08-02-2006, 06:48 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <P>All it takes is a little bit of fear to turn into paranoia, which in turn leads to insanity. He does a much better job at messing with someone's head than Innoruuk did to Saryrn.</P> <P>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <SPAN class=date_text>08-01-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>09:31 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>What did Innoruuk do to Saryrn? I never cared much for her, since leather and whips were also vulgar in my book. I only found a reference to her being a mortal at some point.<BR>
Cusashorn
08-02-2006, 07:05 AM
<DIV>She used to be a human from Freeport who was very faithful to the teachings of Erollisi Marr.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>One day, her love had to go off and fight in a war. She promised she'd wait for him to return, but as time went on, he never did. Other soldiers brought back some of his belongings, but even they did not know what happened to him. She decided to take that as a sign that he may still have been alive, and continued to wait.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Inny took this opportunity to taint her mind so that she would slowly become overwhelmed with jealousy and hatred for everyone she saw who was able to properly experience proper love with a significant other in thier lives. As she grew older with time, her mind became more and more corrupted untill she was ready for Innoruuk to finally transformed her into the Demi-Goddess of Pain and Torment.</DIV>
Wilde_Night
08-02-2006, 04:01 PM
<P>Then of course there is that thing he did to Tunare's paladin and she became Ulloruuk.. or however it is spelled. That deity they worship in Nektropos Castle. Goddess of Betrayal.</P> <P>But.. for me:</P> <P>Dark elf Warden - Innoruuk</P> <P>Dark Elf Warlock - Innoruuk</P> <P>Dark Elf Brigand - Innoruuk</P> <P>Iksar Troubador - Cazic-Thule</P> <P>Ratonga Brigand - Bristlebane.. if he becomes an option, Agnostic otherwise</P> <P>Other alts - Agnostic</P>
Desdichada
08-02-2006, 07:55 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> VizP wrote:<BR> <BR>Anyway a couple of posts in this thread has really made me change my mind on my deity choice. I sometimes read that people would find it hard for a Koada'dal to worship Innoruuk but it seems to me that the Koada'dal would actually make the best followers of Innoruuk.. even better than the Tier'dal. Why? Because the Koada'dal HATE Innnorruk the most - for taking their royalty and turning them into the Tier'dal race. And what does Innorruk enjoy? Those that hate him above all others, an emotion he happily returns.<BR><BR><BR> <P>Message Edited by VizP on <SPAN class=date_text>08-01-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:46 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Although hate of Innoruuk is a part of following him, I am not sure it is sufficient to be a true devotee. The prophet (or is she really a profit...:smileytongue:.) of Innoruuk speaks of spreading hatered. Hating Innoruuk is only a small part of it.</P> <P>But as most prophets go, they always present the message from their god in black and white, or rather black or white. It is up to followers to bring shades of gray into it. Sort of like the exchange between Faust and Mephistopheles:</P> <P> Faust: "Who art though?"</P> <P>Mephistopheles: "I am a part of force that seeks forever evil and does forever good"</P> <P>I am not sure that the prophet of Innuruuk would be happy with that kind of message.</P> <P><BR> </P>
<div></div><div></div>Yes I understand that - well... in terms of my character its always been an attempt to hold onto the hope that he keeps on trying to be good even though its quite clear that he is losing his soul on each and every step. By his hatred of Innoruuk, yes that one step in itself may not be enough, its likely just the first that will lead onto many more. After all it all starts with wanting power and when one realises that 'hatred' allows power by Innoruuk's blessing, then why just hate him when there is an abundance of things to hate (and thus gain more power from)? At least for my character who has been pretty much prejudged from the moment he chose the dark mystic arts (koada'dal defiler - yet one could always argue that paladins seem to always have the right to be judge, jury AND executioner and never gain criticism yet why can't a defiler choose the souls of evil people as an energy source to do 'good' in the world? Suddenly that is a taboo.. interesting arguments), Simply he has been through enough to pretty much hate his own kind for judging him, every other race for being 'inferior' yet daring to convey the fact they are the same and heaven forbid even Tunare for forsaking her own son?Hatred breeds more hate. I think to follow Innoruuk all you ever need is to hate 'him' with all you have. Once you take that first step, tis pretty much a slippery slope from then on. I really am beginning to find the whole Innoruuk lore and concept pretty alluring - it is definitely a really interesting idea and perfect especially for playing characters that become tragic villians. The above examples of people that Innoruuk has trapped such as the war widow follower of Erollisi and the paladin are great stories to say the least <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Im sure one can add my character to the list by the time its all over but it'd be nice to know he wasn't bad from the start but you could see the journey that took him way into the darkness...<div></div><p><span class="time_text"></span></p><p>Message Edited by VizP on <span class=date_text>08-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:02 AM</span>
Mabes
08-02-2006, 09:46 PM
For my wood elf templar, either Mithaniel Marr, or Tunare. For my (soon to be) assassin, not sure yet, probably just the one that would benefit him most gameplay-wise.
FrostDragon
08-03-2006, 09:06 AM
Veeshen or none just the the original EQ gods
Fistantantilus
08-03-2006, 03:20 PM
as the evangelists of hate were shouting in plane of hate (for old skool eq ppl)....ALL PRAISE INNORUUK. OUR LORD AND CREATOR<div></div>
Zabjade
08-03-2006, 08:31 PM
<font color="#66ff00"><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Agnostic, for reasons posted elsewhere. </font></font></font><div></div>
quote: 'ALL PRAISE INNORUUK. OUR LORD AND CREATOR'---I am pretty sure that is exactly what Innoruuk trule dislikes - unless praising him involves stating how much you hate him, how much you despise him, how much you despise everyone including your fellow followers and even yourself <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> If praising him involves cheering his name and running through the streets rallying everyone to do the same, I think Innoruuk's response will be of pretty much sending you to oblivion <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Which reminds me, I think Innoruuk has always found it deeply amusing when the Tier'dal have regarded him as the 'Father' and creator when all he has had is complete disdain and mockery for his own 'children' <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> And expects nothing but the same if not more in return!Truly - the beautiful part of anything Innoruuk is the hate-hate-hate relationship. Im pretty sure that the only followers he has any respect for are the ones that curse his name every day and curse the world and everything in it. There really is no 'praise' involved whatsoever. And if there is... well, I think you'll find you have a problem if you ever have the misfortune to gai audience with him <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>
Eriol
08-03-2006, 09:00 PM
My alts are going to be a LOT easier for me than my main. My High Elf Templar will be Tunare, my Dark Elf Paladin will almost-certainly be Mithaniel Marr, but I'm having REAL problems deciding what to do with my High Elf Necromancer. Innoruuk won't work, since unending hate isn't the main part of his personality, but rather cold calculation (my character's story is in my sig). Also he DOES feel things like Love, loyalty, etc, and other things that Innoruuk is against (love at the least any true follower of Innoruuk sees as a "weak" trait (look it up in the eq1 lore, it's right there in Inny's description)). But above all, hate is NOT a motivator in my character's life any longer (only in his borderline-insanity did it have sway), so Inny just doesn't seem to fit in an RP fashion.So basically I'm torn between Cazic Thule (my necro uses fear to his advantage continually) and Solusek Ro (a calculating, power-hungry god). The problem with Cazic is that his followers are ruled by fear in every aspect of their lives, fear of him, fear of others, instilling fear in others. While he does use fear to his advantage towards others, fear isn't something he himself feels easily, and thus is not ruled by it. It is a tool, little more. Solusek Ro seems a possible alternative, as he exemplifies power and control, though with a fury that is also threatening to break loose at any time.So Sol Ro I think, but honestly, none "fit" perfectly IMO.
Mirkwat
08-03-2006, 11:11 PM
<P>The way I see it, Solusek is your god...</P> <P>The "calculating" hinges it...something the other is NOT known for...</P> <P>The former is all about submission, where as Solusek is all about manipulation.</P><p>Message Edited by Mirkwater on <span class=date_text>08-03-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:13 PM</span>
Gobbwin
08-04-2006, 03:11 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> sacremon wrote:<BR> Since Innoruuk no longer considers the Tier'Dal to be his chosen, I see no reason for my coercer to follow him.<BR><BR>I'd prefer Terris, but given she's not an option at present, it will have to be her father, Cazic.<BR> <P>...snip<BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Here here! That dirty, mishapen troll abandons the superior race that he created for a bunch of mindless animals. I won't give him the pleasure of my hatred, instead I will continue to ignore the fact that he even exists. </P> <P>I'm thinking of either Cazic Thule or Rallos Zek for my inquisitor (go go battle cleric!)</P> <P>But my Bruiser will continue the fine Kerran tradition of remaining Agnostic!</P> <P>"O the gods are returning? I never even realized that they left in the first place..."</P>
Saroc_Luclin
08-04-2006, 05:32 PM
Lets see....Anoki, my HE Freeport Troubadour, will probably go with Solusek. But only until Bristlebane pops up again likely. He's looking for a god suitable for a con man, a fast talking trickster, so until Bristlebane comes in, SolRo will suffice.Saroc, my Armorsmith, is moving to Kelithin as soon as he can and restoring his connection with Brell as soon as possible, probably through a lot of application of Brell's Blessed Stout. (They need to add the beer summoning necklace again for Brell followers. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )Taryx, my wizard jewelcrafter is going the classic wizard route and following SolRo as well.Kroki, my woodcrafter rogue will either stay agnostic, or go along with Rallos for now.and Chariana, my fury, will stay agnostic until I get around to moving to Freeport, at which point she will heed the calling of Tunare... at least until the return of Karana.Oh and I'll probably bring my ranger back once EOF comes as a Tunare follower through and through in Kelethin.<div></div>
Eriol
08-04-2006, 08:27 PM
<blockquote><hr>Saroc_Luclin wrote:and Chariana, my fury, will stay agnostic until I get around to moving to Freeport, at which point she will heed the calling of Tunare... at least until the return of Karana.<hr></blockquote>Did you mean moving FROM freeport? You can't worship tunare while they're IN freeport. Tunare's Good, not neutral.
Saroc_Luclin
08-04-2006, 09:11 PM
<div></div>Oops yeah, I meant FROM Freeport. She's currently an Iksar Fury in Freeport, mainly my tailor for now. Someday I'll get off my duff and move her to Qeynos as I planned on it. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
kajirala
08-04-2006, 11:03 PM
<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=4> Im going with tunare not because every one will but because of my char originally followed tunare since the beginning of eq1. and my bio says that my char was originally a high elf and was cursed the body of a human and almost all of the high elves follow tunare.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=4></FONT> </P>
<DIV>You can also worship "The Nameless" but you won't gain anything by doing so. So, there's the 9th god you can worship.</DIV>
TheBloodofThex
08-05-2006, 12:31 AM
<DIV>Hating Innoruuk has nothing to do with the religion of Hate.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hatred is a creative force. It was Innoruuk's jealous hatred of the other gods and the races they created that spurred him into stealing the high elf king and queen and creating a living mockety, a living testament to his anger and hatred and jealousy. This is like the angry kid who was never part of the cool clique in school so decides to commit a crime against those who he jealously hates - not unlike the Columbine massacre.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Hate he nourished in his children was a hate for all that was not Teir'Dal. Hatred is intolerance . Innoruuk wanted to see the subjugation of the other lesser races to his own. In this way Hate is not unlike the hate and intolerance of the [Removed for Content] party in world war II.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Teir'Dal society is structured, it is lead by a king and queen, it has a very strong and structured church that plays a major role in society and politics, it has a caste system, it is very lawful - though draconic. It is a society that is ordered, that holds tradiitons dear, it is a society built upon pride. It is a society of scholars, architects, artists, priests and generals. This hate is not a blind rage that lashes out against all that is not the self -- the Teir'Dal are not individual solipsists -- though one could make an argument that Teir'Dal society in itself is solipsistic. They do not hate Innoruuk - they love and adore their father, and praise his name. They do not hate each other, no more than anyone else hates each other.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>They do however, use force to get their point across. They do not hold murder, torture, slavery of other lesser races as a sin nor is it a moral issue for Teir'Dal. Intolerance, and the willingness to subject those who are not of the pure blood to atocity is what makes them evil.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is not to say that there are not Teir'Dal who would not seek to destroy his neighbor for his own gain, or assassinate a rival, or try to overthrow the king and queen. They exist -- but what society does not have those who at times think and act the same. Innoruuk and his children does not mind brutality or savagery as long as it keeps the society strong.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Teir'Dal are nationalistic, expansionist, intolerant, haughty, demonic - they are not chaotic, anarchists, self absorbed inviiduals who all plot to kill each other -- this isnt Highlander.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Innoruuk wants his children to survive and grow and posper, and conquer for each day they live is another day his throws it in face of the other gods. He wants a stable, law abiding force who believe in his hate - his hate of that which is not of his own making.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Teir'Dal are not simple two dimsensional, cookie cutter villians. Hate is a concept that involves love, for without it, hate could not exist.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Make 2 cents</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
Eriol
08-05-2006, 05:12 AM
<blockquote><hr>TheBloodofThex wrote:Hate is a concept that involves love, for without it, hate could not exist.<hr></blockquote>Ummm.... <a target="_blank" href="http://lorenorrath.free.fr/read.php?link=gods_innoruuk">/cough</a> (emphasis mine, though original text is from EQ1's manual)<blockquote><hr>Innoruuk is allied with Rallos Zek and Cazic-Thule, and the enemy of Quellious, Mithaniel Marr, and Erollisi Marr.Followers of Innoruuk, the Prince of Hate, include nearly the entire dark elven race who regard him as their "Father".They believe that hate is a creative force, or rather "THE" creative force in the universe - creativity born of destruction.<b><strong>Love and kindness are tools for those too ignorant to know what they want or too cowardly to do what is necessary to obtain it.</strong></b>They believe that it is only through the total disdain of your enemies that you can gain true power over them.Pity and mercy have no power when confronted with contempt and viciousness.It is the honest belief of the followers of Innoruuk that if they were to hate strongly enough, they could destroy all of Norrath.<hr></blockquote>Love is not ANYWHERE in Innoruuk's teachings, for himself or any other, and is to be fiercely hated as well.
TheBloodofThex
08-05-2006, 05:56 AM
<DIV>I know that text very well. I think you misunderstood the statement I made at the end of my last post. I did not say that Innoruuk believes in the power of love, though I would content that he loves his children and they love him as thier father. It is the fact the Hate is not a simple as I hate everything, everything must perish. Hate and love are tied togther much like light and dark or good and evil.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Acts of Hate can be done by those who love their wives, family, friends or country or God. History is replete with examples, one that comes to mind as I type is the Inquisiiton.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That statement you highlighted and the following paragraphs are the Hate that is to be directed at those who are not Teir'Dal. The enemies of the Teir'Dal are less than trash and love, kindness, mercy and pity for them would impede their plan (Innoruuk's and the Teir'Dal's) to subjugate all of Norrath under their rule.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To turn this statement and make the assertion that the Teir'Dal hate themselves and that they Hate their father would be contrary to the society they created.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I will say that Teir'Dal society is a devious society, with back stabbing, asassination, intrigue and in fighting, It is a society that can be brutal and savage even to their own - but then again can this not be said of any civilization to some degree.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If Teir'Dal society was full of hate filled solipsists, there would not be a Teir'Dal nation, there would be no army, not church, no books, it would be tribal at best, and they would have fulfilled none of Innoruuk's desires.</DIV>
electricninjasex
08-05-2006, 04:32 PM
Solusek Ro fits me to a T. <div></div>
Zabjade
08-05-2006, 07:46 PM
<div></div><font color="#66ff00"><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color="#cc3300"><font color="#66ff00">RP Answer for my character's being Agnostic.</font> Kanaraz narrowed her eyes at the passing throng, the bulk of which were made up of her own people, the Teir'Dal. Spurring her shadowsteed, she followed the latest knot at a slight distance. As she rounded a corner, she watched as the mob converged on another Teir'Dal Kanaraz recognized with a start, as the much rumored Prophet of Innoruuk. "So, Elf." an ogre guard quiped in an obvious bait nodding to the throngs chanting epitats of hatered, "You going to join the rest of puny race?" "Hate <b>IS</b> powerful," Kanaraz returned cooly, "But blinding. Things are born, things die to be reborn again. Some just have a harder time moving on, that is where the I come in, I give those restless dead one last chance to fight. Then they move on." Kanaraz wheeled he horse around and rode off, leaving the prophet of hate and a confused guard behind. She would choose only when she felt the need, and no god called to her that she could feel. </font> <font color="#ff9900">Sentaiga scratched her freshly shaven arms, she found that her food sold better when there was no fur in it, and listened to a couple of humans debating the return of the gods. The two were debating the pros and cons of Marr, Tunare and Quellious the three gods to grace Qeynos with prophets. Sentaiga glanced at her spirit companion, Luclin, who only seemed to shrug despite a cannine body. The return of the gods ment little to a Kerra. Following her companion's lead, she shrugged as well, she had to kneed some dough. <font color="#ffcc00">Kurayami set her staff aside and bowed to her sparring partner, then glanced at Sensei Matoko. She was glad he was back at the dojo, but was worried about his recent calling by the god of tranquility. Having abandoned hate and her people when she left Freeport, she was reluctant to fall into the arms of another god or goddess. What's more, Quellious and Innoruuk where only the begining, more of the gods had returned. Holy wars made Kurayami Q'Daur nervous. <font color="#66ff00"><font color="#66ff00">Klronie rubbed the sleep from her eyes, then placed the latest tome she had been looking through back on shelf. Since the revealing of the Prophets (and Profit) she had begun researching; not only the godlings that have active prophets, but the others as well. </font><font color="#66ff00"> </font><font color="#66ff00"> </font><font color="#66ff00"><i>It's only a matter of time before the rest search for worshipers as well</i></font><font color="#66ff00">, Klornie thought rubbing her head and leaned against the bookcase, </font><font color="#66ff00"><i>Will this lead to another Shattering? </i></font><font color="#66ff00">Klornie's fears looked to be very real, although many godlings represented positive aspects, others represented more negative ones. Yet they only they only represented an aspect of a greater whole, one barely mentioned in the religious text.</font><font color="#66ff00"> </font><font color="#66ff00"> </font><font color="#66ff00">Klornie had a new quest...</font> </font></font></font></font></font></font><div></div><p>Message Edited by Zabjade on <span class=date_text>08-06-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:22 AM</span>
kajirala
08-06-2006, 03:16 AM
<FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#cc00ff size=3>My main which is a wizard will be following tunare because of RP reasons</FONT><p>Message Edited by kajirala on <span class=date_text>08-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:17 PM</span>
Chulanowa
08-06-2006, 10:25 AM
Hmmm. Only those eight? Dissappointing! Figgs, my Ratonga Necro, is a traditionalist at heart, so Brell Serilis it will be. No doubt worshipping the god of dirt will make it easier to dig dead people up, right? Emelli, the Halfling Troubador... Hmmm. If Bristlebane isn't an option, then she'll just have to remain her same ditzy addleheaded self.. "Tunathaniel Thule!" Jaela, half-elf Warlock, will definately go with Innoruuk. She would go with Cazic-Thule because he's good for goth cred, but you know, he looks like a pile of orc manure. And she's all shallow like that. Tymolin, Wood Elf monk could go Tunare. Or she could go crazy and betray to go play with Rallos as a bruiser. Either way she's sexy! Yazzi, Ratonga Ranger, would be TUnare. Until Karana shows up. BOOM! hehehehehehe! Thal, Iksar Shadowknight... Cazic-Thule. The other gods don't exist. Even if they did, they would be scared of Cazic-Thule. Saia, Iksar Coercer... What? She IS God. Your god, anyway... Krashar, Kerran Paladin, will gladly offer his worship to any diety that will make him NOT look like a heavily tranquilized Orang Utan. Knami, Gnome Templar will without a doubt, totally and for certain, according to all her calculations, revere Bristlebane. All calculations point toward Bristlebane having put on a skirt and shaved to look like Tunare. <div></div>
<DIV>Both of my choices are easy ones. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For my iksar SK, there is only one god. The Faceless, he seeks to cover the world in horror and pain. Freeport is irrelavent, Lucan D'Lere would shrivel into nothing in the presence of the Faceless. Qeynos is populated by fools who fail to realize that in a way Cazic Thule saved their city. The power of the Greenmist is unstoppable, ask the Shissar if you can find one or better yet ask an ogre or orc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For my high elf wizard its also easy, Solusek Ro who is the true wizard god. Any wizard who doesn't follow Solusek might as well be running around picking flowers. All I want is to burn things and blow stuff up. Any doubters or petitioners can read the following (written for EQ1 but still valid). Thanks be to brother Eamin for spreading the word of the power of The Burning Prince.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <DIV>Solusek Ro - The One True Wizard God<BR>by Eamin Whitefalcon<BR>Wizards can choose between a variety of religions, depending on their race (twelve in all - the most being eight choices for Humans, the least being only one for Frogloks) - but most of these deities are just piece of crap gods with no value whatsoever, be it roleplayingwise, factionwise, or equipmentwise.<BR><BR>There is really only one choice for religion if you're a wizard: Solusek Ro, the Burning Prince. He is the patron god of Wizards in the same way that Rallos Zek is the patron god of Warriors, Innoruuk is the patron god of Dark Elves, and Quellious is the patron goddess of playing with Barbies. Five of the six Wizard races can worship the Great Lord (the only exception being the Frogloks, who, as a new race, have no roleplaying depth at all), and the only other class that can follow Him is the Bard. Wizards have the ability to Imbue only one type of holy stone: the Fire Opal, sacred gem of Solusek Ro. The Temple of Solusek Ro is the home to some of our greatest quests, including our epic weapon and the Staff of Temperate Flux, and is guarded by an all-Wizard Seeker squadron of Seekers and Keepers. The other deities show no such magnanimity towards Wizards: most of them only help out their chosen few - and in most cases, these few are the Clerics, Druids, Necromancers, Paladins, and Shadow Knights who specifically worship them. Why worship a diety who cares nothing for your class?<BR><BR>Solusek Ro is generally regarded as the God of Fire, Power, and Arcane Knowledge. His actions over the centuries have generally reinforced this view: he certainly enjoys fire and magma, especially when used in an offensive manner (as does any good Wizard); and he has constructed a Temple where his servants, devoted to the pursuit of Power, share valuable knowledge with those who prove their worth.<BR><BR>The other deities generally have messages that are shockingly removed from the job description of a Wizard. Wizards are supposed to be the diehard seekers of power and knowledge at all costs, caring nothing for objects and actions that do not help them attain their goal. Instead, these other dieties clog this spartan and straightforward purpose with excess baggage, such as Save the bunnies! Violence isn't the answer and Puss is sexy! Not only are most of these messages totally unrelated to the goal of acquiring magical power, they’re downright unwizardly. Wizards want to blow stuff up and get a bigger spellbook, not protect the rainforests.<BR><BR>Thankfully, that is exactly Solusek Ro's philosophy: blow up anyone who disagrees with you while you actively search for power. His actions over the course of Norrath's history reflects this mentality. It was the Great Lord Solusek Ro who destroyed the ancient Elven empire on Tunaria (now called Antonica). Tunare's children had built a sprawling realm in the forests and plains of the southeast of the continent, with outposts that encompassed almost every part of the landmass. Great marble cities did the High Elves build, and the Wood Elven tree-cities dotted the gargantuan Eldar Forest in which they lived. But these Elves, servants of the impotent demigoddess Tunare as they were, drew the wrath of the Great Lord. He drove the peaks of the Serpent's Spine mountains upwards into the vault of heaven, and brought the Sun's power down on the Elven lands. The entire empire, with all its Druids and arcane casters (including, presumably, many Wizards), as well as their goddess Tunare, fought against Solusek Ro's punishment. But to no avail. Their land, once green and vibrant and filled with life, is now the Desert of Ro: three territories of endless rock and sand, inhabited only by venomous spiders and snakes, the undead, and groups of orcs and sand giants. All of Tunare's creations were forced to flee from what had been their home for centuries, to eke out a new life for themselves on the continent of Faydwer. Such is the punishment of those who draw the ire of the Burning Prince.<BR><BR>Solusek Ro has also been implicated in the destruction of the ancient Gnomish city of Klik'Anon, and travelers from His Tower report that he is currently devising a means to turn all of Norrath into a flaming wasteland, with endless pools of lava and a sky choked with ash, with brimstone falling from the heavens rather than rain. The thought of such a world might make you ecstatic and choked up with glee. That's entirely natural - you're a Wizard, after all.<BR><BR>As you can most likely see, Solusek Ro's philosophies match perfectly those of the Wizard class, but if you're still not convinced there are other perks. Solusek Ro's repertoire of deity-specific items consists of only two items, but both of these are definitely among the best available for a Wizard at the point in time you can get them (unlike some other gods: you'll be lucky if you even catch a glance of their equipment!). The Imbued Platinum Fire Rings are undoubtedly the best input-reward rings in the game for a young wizard (arguably, for a Wizard all the way up into his 50's): combined, they give you +16 INT, +90 Mana, +20 HP, and +8 Fire Resistance. They do have the side effect of nuking your Strength by 16 points, but this really isn't a big deal as long as you travel light and teleport to banks whenever you get full. And best of all, they require only three ingredients: an enchanted platinum bar (have an Enchanter enchant a normal platinum bar), an imbued fire opal (have a Wizard with Imbue Fire Opal imbue a normal fire opal), and a willing jeweler. There really isn't any competition to this as far as the other deities are concerned, especially considering you'll never get your fingers on a single scrap of their armor unless you have platinum pouring out of all your orifices.<BR><BR>Solusek Ro also wins, hands down, in the faction department. Some Agnostics will try to win you over to the path of godlessness with the We have better faction argument.<BR>THEY'RE LYING.<BR>Agnostic faction is absolutely identical to Solusek Ro faction, with only two exceptions: Solusites are amiably in the Temple of Solusek Ro, and KOS in the Plane of Growth. The Plane of Growth is Tunare's plane: a completely useless crapheap filled with nature-loving hippies. If you're a Dark Elf, you'll be KOS in the Plane of Growth no matter what you do, so there's no reason not to worship Solusek Ro!<BR>The other major argument that the misinformed make against Solusek Ro is that worshiping some other god will get you liked more in your home city. THEY'RE ALSO LYING.<BR>The Wizard guilds in your home city will like you no matter what god you pick - about the only people who care are the Clerics, and who needs them! For Dark Elves, worshiping Solusek Ro over Innoruuk will get you accepted into parts of many cities that would otherwise beat the grape juice out of you. For Erudites and Gnomes, worshiping Solusek Ro over other, more goody-two-shoes gods will get you accepted with open arms into Neriak and the evil outpost on Kunark, invaluable tools for the intrepid adventurer - and all while keeping your ties to good and neutral cities intact!<BR><BR>So, a message to all you individuals thinking about making a Wizard - only one god is the God of Wizardry. That god is Solusek Ro, the Burning Prince, Lord of Fire, Keeper of Knowledge, Seeker of Power, and all-around badass.</DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Tyrrax on <span class=date_text>08-06-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:57 AM</span>
Arbreth
08-07-2006, 01:14 AM
<P>Bah!</P> <P>What does a self respecting Kerra need with gods? </P> <P>Arbreth is a Mystic, another reason to leave the troublemakers out of her life.</P> <P> </P>
dave143256384
08-07-2006, 06:17 PM
<P>as an iksar its naturally Cazic-Thule, hes just so cool and i love the iksar lore.</P> <P> </P> <P>also being an inquisitor i think it fits nicely.</P>
Rahmn
08-07-2006, 10:00 PM
<DIV>I'll worship the god with the most benefits for my class. Follower for hire!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
Fayline Fyrecat
08-08-2006, 12:30 AM
<DIV>I'm pretty torn as to whom I will worship. Most of my first choices aren't available initially. My first choice would have been Erollisi Marr, as that is who Fayline the 1st (from EQ1) worshipped. Otherwise, I would choose between the benefits of Povar, Druzzil Ro, or Karana.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>From those available from the outset, it's a tough decision as a conjuror. Being a high-elf, I'm leaning towards Tunare, but I'm not really a roleplayer so the abilities that come with the god of choice is going to be a more deciding factor. My priority in choosing a god will probably be damage prevention in the form of stuns/stifles, or even mez (mitigation and self-defense are not of much use to a pet class). Healing would be good, but again only if it's a targetable spell that I can use on my pet. Sol Ro? Well, if it's a bonus to fire damage that gives me all of one spell from which to benefit; and only one of my pets would benefit if pets are included at all. If my pet does not get the benefit of my worship, then forget it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So I'll be leaning towards Tunare to begin with, but put me in the "wait and see" category.</DIV>
troodon
08-08-2006, 01:21 AM
<P>I'm unsure for my Shadow Knight. He doesn't worship any of the Gods of the pantheon, but I've never been one to let RP get in the way of making a better character. I figure I'll choose Cazic, Zek, or Solusek but just pretend he doesn't worship any of them. </P> <P>For my Guardian it will be Zek, without question. I'll have to exile him to get this choice but that's ok; the Qeynosians never really accepted him.</P> <P>For my Fury it's Innoruuk. I made him at launch with the intention of him being an Innoruuk-worshipping Troll Fury, something I thought would be a rather interesting combo :smileyhappy:</P><p>Message Edited by troodon on <span class=date_text>08-07-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:24 PM</span>
eyes007
08-08-2006, 04:18 AM
<DIV>It' a very difficult decision for me, I am a Wood Elf Bruiser, that poses many choices:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tunare - At one with nature, as all wood elves inherently are.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Quellious - A lost soul, once a monk, with rage and fire burning and consuming him but with a glimmer of hope, peace and tranquility and the yearning to be whole again.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Solusek Ro - The fire that consumes him, the rage that boils within cursed him to be cast out from the followers of Quellious after blind rage led to him killing four innocent young adventurers (one of the betrayal quests <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> lol) and betraying his once-home of qeynos.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Brell Serilis - While not as stalwart as many continued-dwarven friends, the path of the bruiser has led him to many a bar room brawl, often occasionally with friends and foe alike. While not quite Freeportian and sadly not of Qeynos, the young bruiser has ofttimes found his home, at the bottom of a dwarven ale stein.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mithaniel Marr - Once a Paladin of the God of Valor (my character was a paladin in EQ1 who found peace and became a monk after his many battles), the young Wood Elf yearns for his former life, wondering where life would lead him. The return of the Gods signifies that maybe his chance has come at last, but will Mithaniel Marr turn his back on the one that had first forsaken him?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Innoruuk - The burning hatred within the wood elf for those that killed his family consumes him quickly, this deity smiles and stokes the flames, growing this flickering flame to become a mighty blaze that will consume all in it's path!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Cazic Thule - All has been lost, everything the young bruiser once loved dearly, struck down without mercy by the forces of darkness (courtesy of Cazic Thule but unbeknowest to the young elf). In darkness the elf waits, shuddering with quiet rage, his enemies will learn and grow to fear him, the sound of his name will strike fear into their hearts, the torture and agony of knowing death is stalking them, they will wait in anxiety and trepidation for their doom, not knowing when their death will come.but certain it will be upon them...sometime.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rallos Sek - There are many wars this wood elf will see, the war that rages between his reluctant home of freeport and his lost home of qeynos, his neverending war upon his enemies, those that destroyed his life and killed everything he ever loved and cared for. Most important of all, the war he will know with all consuming passion, that which has shaped events and made him what he is today, the evershifting battle of light and darkness within, rage and tranquility...good and evil.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hmm...now that I've questioned every fiber of my character's being I need people to tell me what path I should choose. Betrayal is still an option (or betraying back again I should say <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> easy enough to do hehe). Help me choose! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><p>Message Edited by eyes007 on <span class=date_text>08-08-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:24 PM</span>
Zilreed
08-08-2006, 05:34 AM
<P>I do not know, for my Fury Kerra of Qeynos, who I would choose. I would ideally like to choose none. But only because her great, great, great, grandmother was a Vah Shir Beastlord in EQ1 that I used to play. The Vah Shir tribe did not worship any gods for what I understand. </P> <P>I know that my Kerra today is of a Druid class and that her healing powers do come from somewhere, but I do not know which specific diety she would look to. </P> <P>Would there be a chance that she does not have to make a choice? Or which diety would any of you choose in my situation, and why?</P>
eyes007
08-08-2006, 07:37 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zilreed wrote:<BR> <P>I do not know, for my Fury Kerra of Qeynos, who I would choose. I would ideally like to choose none. But only because her great, great, great, grandmother was a Vah Shir Beastlord in EQ1 that I used to play. The Vah Shir tribe did not worship any gods for what I understand. </P> <P>I know that my Kerra today is of a Druid class and that her healing powers do come from somewhere, but I do not know which specific diety she would look to. </P> <P>Would there be a chance that she does not have to make a choice? Or which diety would any of you choose in my situation, and why?</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>As a druid who's inherent nature is that of the forest and all it's creatures within, I would have to go for Tunare. Totally off topic but if you know R.A. Salvatore Forgotten Realsm/Icewind Dale trilogy etc. there is a dark elf named "Drizzt Do'Urden" who racially is a follower of the Spider Queen (Lolth) but born with the heart and soul of a Ranger, a follower of Mielikki (the Guardian of the Forest put simply). Anyway, the reason why I mention this is that in roleplaying fantasy, race can mean something or not, on the other hand class can mean something or not as well. So if your race had no diety that it knows of, your class would, as a warden or fury, you would draw your power and magic from the surrounding forests and creatures, that essentially makes the character a follower of Tunare even if you didn't plan it that way.</P> <P>Here are some basic class/diety pairings:</P> <P>Paladin - Mithaniel Marr (Valor)</P> <P>Monk - Quellious (Tranquility)</P> <P>Guardian/Berserker - Rallos Zek (War)</P> <P>Templar - Erollisi Marr (Love)</P> <P>Shadowknight - Innoruuk (Hate)</P> <P>Warden - Tunare (Nature)</P> <P> </P> <P>I hope that explains a bit, at the end of the day, we re finally seeing a true roleplaying experience from SOE and I'm looking forward to it, you don't have to choose a deity but you lose the potential benefits which they wil explain about. It may even enhance your class, i.e. if you choose the diety you clss represents, it may even boost your healing potential, I'm only guessing but hey maybe <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>
CrazyGuy
08-08-2006, 01:41 PM
As a Dark Elf Inquisitor , i always followed InnoruukEverybody who knows Vazquez ingame, knows how fanatical she is <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>
More then likely being a Dark Elf Brigand I will go Inny. Though being the power gamer that I am, if one of the other gods i can choose offers something better i will go that route.<div></div>
Zilreed
08-09-2006, 03:19 AM
<DIV>Thanks, Eyes. :smileyhappy:</DIV>
Lancer
08-09-2006, 05:41 PM
Mithaniel Marr on my barbarian paladin. Brell on my gnome wizard.
CrazyGuy
08-10-2006, 10:14 PM
Just one SMAAAAAAAL remarkthe Seraph of Hate is an HALF ELF???????Come on. Thats just ridiculus. Am Teir'dal, and i RP Vaz as a very Religious person and a Teir'dal to the bone. And now HER god, the god of the Dark Elfs is going to be represented by an HALF ELF? Thats just so wrong.<div></div>
Renita_Serafim
08-10-2006, 10:21 PM
<DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Astralmage on <span class=date_text>10-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:24 AM</span>
Eriol
08-10-2006, 11:18 PM
<blockquote><hr>CrazyGuy wrote:Just one SMAAAAAAAL remarkthe Seraph of Hate is an HALF ELF???????Come on. Thats just ridiculus. Am Teir'dal, and i RP Vaz as a very Religious person and a Teir'dal to the bone. And now HER god, the god of the Dark Elfs is going to be represented by an HALF ELF? Thats just so wrong.<hr></blockquote>Here's something to REALLY disappoint you then. You know what race the first Shadowknight was? He was......tension...... more dramatic tension ...HUMAN!Yes, read through the SK epic from EQ1, and you'll see that Inny bestowed the gifts of that profession on humans first (and it's interesting that to show your supreme dedication to hate, you actually need to kill Inny to complete said epic). And there were plenty of human inny worshippers in EQ1 as well (and I'd guess other races, though my memory is fuzzy on who all could worship him).
CrazyGuy
08-11-2006, 02:34 AM
Yeah true, but still its so wrong on so many lvls Vaz is never going to accept an order from an Half Elf.She was already saying that Lucan took the wrong puppet to present the Seraphand so try to control Followers of Innoruuk<div></div>
Gastrocnemi
08-13-2006, 07:44 PM
<DIV>Solusek Ro for my Conjy</DIV> <DIV>Mithaniel Marr for my Templar</DIV> <DIV>Quellious for my Monk</DIV>
EshamBlm
08-13-2006, 10:17 PM
<P>Tunare for my High Elf Conjuror.</P> <P> </P>
tigressb
08-13-2006, 10:26 PM
Rallos Zek for my halfling bruiser (My halfling warrior in EQ1 worshipped Rallos as well).My halfling fury is holding out for Karana. He may not be present in Norrath, but she still believes in the force of nature. No frou frou wimpy Tunare for her!My half-elf necro (half dark elf, half human) will worship Inny, although the power of fear also appeals to her. She may end up following Cazic. If Bertox was an option that would be her choice.<div></div>
therodge
08-16-2006, 07:56 AM
<DIV>didnt seee if it was posted but the nineth is brell stormhammer can be found in Blackburrow</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
Mirander_1
08-16-2006, 08:54 AM
Nah, Brell was the eighth, number nine has yet to be revealed<div></div>
Renita_Serafim
08-16-2006, 11:50 AM
I really, really hope Anashti Sul (Goddess of Immortality) is a choice.
think im gonna have to go Sol Ro... even though i am a child of tunare, the brain damage that cause me to be a zerker instead of a paladin would make him a better choice (hot tempered firey blood all that stuff)<BR>
Craien
08-16-2006, 09:39 PM
Innoruuk, the only true choice as you all will soon find out.
Brailyn
08-17-2006, 09:37 AM
I don't think Tunare will want betrayed Dark Elvish Paladins as subjects... Just sayin...
JimmyMa
08-17-2006, 06:25 PM
I would take Cazic-Thule in a second if it didn't mean betraying and reseting all my spells But now... I guess Sol Ro<div></div>
Kyvthuhlu
08-21-2006, 11:38 AM
Rallos Zek, can there be any other?<div></div>
uberpaco
08-22-2006, 01:20 PM
<P>I multibox with 3 chars at the moment, and my shadow knight and my inquisitor is quite easy to choose for.<BR>But my wood elf illusionist that hang with the sk and inq (illusionist cause the coercer doesn't have a perm pet), what should she choose....</P> <P> </P> <P>Leaning towards Solusek Ro - Neutral and like mages<BR>(can't pick Brell (the other neutral) cause elf usually don't like the underground(I knew I should have made a gnome illu))<BR>(I want to respec my race :smileytongue<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>
NoNameChosen
08-22-2006, 06:46 PM
Me, as a Kerran Guardian from Qeynos, might go for either Mithaniel Marr or Solusek Ro ... I would like more info on what each god can do before I make my decision.
<DIV>as an obvious choice since im a DE Warlock, I will go with Innoruuk</DIV>
FreaklyCreak
08-23-2006, 04:34 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Astralmage wrote:<BR> I really, really hope Anashti Sul (Goddess of Immortality) is a choice.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Thought she was the Goddess of Undeath?
kajirala
08-25-2006, 06:00 AM
whats the difference and im going for TUNARE on my main Mairate
Elveira
08-26-2006, 12:21 AM
<DIV>Like most other rats here, Brell until Bristlebane is no longer MIA...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
Very easy choice: Tunare. My Warden has a history of worshipping Tunare, and my druid in EQL worshipped Tunare. There can be no other choice for my main, hehe =)<div></div>
jago quicksilver
08-27-2006, 07:38 AM
does anyone have info on how our diety will actually help us in combat?as a true Competitor, the only real choice for me is Rallos Zek, but will he help me out in game as a healer?
Cusashorn
08-27-2006, 08:10 AM
<DIV>No information has been given about what effects or equipment we will recieve with the diety system. none at all.</DIV>
jago quicksilver
08-27-2006, 08:16 AM
well, thats too bad... I might have to hold out until i see whats up. not really into the RP side of the game, so i want to worship the one that is gonna best accomodate me for being a quizzy <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
Angel eye
08-28-2006, 04:53 AM
I would have to...Give the gods the finger and say this is some wacked out conspiracy bull-crap. My god is me, and me alone. Define the meaning of "God" to me. There is no god, you recieve your powers from the balance of your self actions. A god is just a statue, a figurehead that people turn to because they cant learn to live and accept their real problems, and learn to love what they have. Not power, Not some pormotion from their "god", etc. The real god here is yourself. The soul of one is the sole god alone. Not the figurehead of the one you turn to when your problems arise to catastrophic size. But anyways, as long as people remain to hide between this conspiracy 'Oh no, the gods left, what are we going to do." Some guy on the street says "Im going to sit here until the gods come back" Guess what happened to that guy? He died sitting there waiting for a "firgurehead". If you really want to know the truth, the so called "gods" were there all the time, they never left. You just lost faith in yourselves becouse your "figurehead" left, not the god. Like I said, you can find your god inside yourself. So my answer is None. I worship no god because I know the truth and what a god really is. But as long as the games mechanics go, If I am forced to pick a god, I would have to pick Cazic-Thule. Although its a shame you cant worship Rallos...
Angel eye
08-28-2006, 04:57 AM
Ok, I had my history wrong, my bad...Pay no heed to my estranged rantings...Talk amongst yourselves...>.>...
VenorikVelglarn
10-11-2006, 12:13 PM
<DIV>My necromancer Sabal, despises, Innoruuk, to her Innoruuk abandoned the dark elves. No she served Cazic Thule, to her Fear is a tool that can be used most efficently.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For my High elf Troubador, she will worship Tunare, naturaly, though she also, follows Ayone Ro (Did I spell that right?)</DIV><p>Message Edited by VenorikVelglarn on <span class=date_text>10-11-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:27 AM</span>
steelbadger
10-11-2006, 04:22 PM
Well... Ratonga's don't, by and large, worship a God...Possibly because there is no God of stabbity death...So looks like my assassin is going for agnostic... no maybe even Athiest <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> (that would be quite an achievement I feel)<div></div>
Zagats
10-11-2006, 08:36 PM
<DIV>no god of stabbity death? What about Rallos Zek? He doesnt really care what weapons you use, as long as you're using them well! Victory on the field of battle = good. Loss in battle = you are insignificant.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm going to go with Cazic Thule with both my Iksar characters (Brigand, Shadowknight).</DIV> <DIV>Lore reasons, because all iksar worshipped the god of fear. As a brigand, I bring terror into the hearts of those who know I'm coming to kill them (but cant see me to figure out from which direction im coming!).</DIV> <DIV>As a shadowknight, I'll show my face. I'll then show my blade. That'll be the last thing you'll ever see though! MWAHAHAH!</DIV>
Evilcow
10-12-2006, 05:08 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> steelbadger wrote:<BR>Well... Ratonga's don't, by and large, worship a God...<BR><BR>Possibly because there is no God of stabbity death...<BR><BR>So looks like my assassin is going for agnostic... no maybe even Athiest <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> (that would be quite an achievement I feel)<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>they worship brell and maybe bristlebane because they created them
steelbadger
10-12-2006, 01:06 PM
<div></div>I do believe that a central part of their lore is that they do not seem to worship a god, but that they all have a funny tattoo type marking, which nobody knows the significance of...And I wouldn't say Zek was a god of stabbity death... he's more of a battle kinda guy, a chewyournoseoff kinda God. I'm not sure a sneaky then stabbit then run away sneaky assassin is his forté.So I will remain athiest, until a God comes to me HIM OR HERSELF and shows me something that could only be done by a God... <span>:smileytongue:EDIT:</span><p><b>Faith:</b></p> <p>The ratonga show no spiritual inclinations, with no outward worship of any known deity. What transpires in the shadows when the ratonga congregate is unknown.</p>Pretty sure thats the line on the official site, and I have heard no mention in my numerous discussions with ratonga NPC's that they acknowledge any God. However I shall continue looking...<p><span></span></p><div></div><p>Message Edited by steelbadger on <span class=date_text>10-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:11 AM</span>
Renita_Serafim
10-12-2006, 02:48 PM
<P>Well, the ratonga were created by Brell, but I don't see any ratonga at the Herald of the Underfoot's campsite*. Which isn't surprising since Brell dropped the ratonga like a hot rock when he decided he was unsatisfied with them.</P> <P> </P> <P>*Spoiler, highlight the text to read:-</P> <P><FONT color=#000000>Aside from the one who was there to <EM>sabotage</EM> the proceedings.</FONT></P><p>Message Edited by Astralmage on <span class=date_text>10-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:49 AM</span>
steelbadger
10-12-2006, 04:53 PM
yeah, stinky Brell was all like "oh noes they are sneaky!" but had to go off on him little vacation before he could fix us... ie wipe us out and start again. <span>:smileytongue:</span><div></div>
Whazy
10-12-2006, 05:58 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> steelbadger wrote:<BR>yeah, stinky Brell was all like "oh noes they are sneaky!" but had to go off on him little vacation before he could fix us... ie wipe us out and start again. <SPAN>:smileytongue:</SPAN><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>With any luck, Brell will wipe out the little ratmen and forget the whole idea.</P> <P>=)</P>
Kyvthuhlu
10-12-2006, 07:02 PM
<P></P> <HR> And I wouldn't say Zek was a god of stabbity death... he's more of a battle kinda guy, a chewyournoseoff kinda God. I'm not sure a sneaky then stabbit then run away sneaky assassin is his forté. <HR> <P>He's more a god of loyalty, honesty, and courage than just combat.</P>
steelbadger
10-13-2006, 12:34 AM
<div><blockquote><hr>Kyvthuhlu wrote:<div></div> <p></p> <hr> And I wouldn't say Zek was a god of stabbity death... he's more of a battle kinda guy, a chewyournoseoff kinda God. I'm not sure a sneaky then stabbit then run away sneaky assassin is his forté. <hr> <p>He's more a god of loyalty, honesty, and courage than just combat.</p><hr></blockquote>Exactly, and therein lies the problem!</div>
Sekkong
10-13-2006, 01:36 AM
<DIV>Karana.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ok ok.. Probably solusk ro. Being a conjuror and all i can see some of those abilities increasing fire damage or something.</DIV>
Thunderthyze
10-13-2006, 01:10 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> VizP wrote:<BR>Well thats it then - we know the right.. now I want to ask you.... which deity are you intending to worship? For those that are behind on events, here are your choices:<BR><BR>Qeynos ONLY:<BR><BR>Tunare<BR>Mithaniel Marr<BR>Quellious<BR><BR>Freeport ONLY:<BR><BR>Innoruuk<BR>Cazic Thule<BR>Rallos Zek<BR><BR>Neutral (No restriction):<BR><BR>Brell Serelis<BR>Solusek Ro<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>What about Mormons?? I thought that Mormons were supposed to be the right answer?<BR></P> <P> </P>
Hajji
10-13-2006, 08:46 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Melchiah wrote:<BR>If the third neutral ends up being Veeshan, i'm going that way, but Cazic-Thule otherwise.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I'm still hoping Veeshan is the 3rd, been hoping since I first heard about the return of the gods.
Kyvthuhlu
10-13-2006, 08:57 PM
Veeshan's been gone since before the other gods arrived - in the first place - though.<p>Message Edited by Kyvthuhlu on <span class=date_text>10-13-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:58 AM</span>
LagerYerba
10-13-2006, 09:19 PM
What better god for an iksar shadowknight to worpship than Cazic-Thule? =)<div></div>
Kyvthuhlu
10-13-2006, 09:24 PM
<P></P> <HR> What better god for an iksar shadowknight to worpship than Cazic-Thule? =)<BR> <HR> <P>Rallos Zek.</P>
Cusashorn
10-14-2006, 08:13 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Hajji wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Melchiah wrote:<BR>If the third neutral ends up being Veeshan, i'm going that way, but Cazic-Thule otherwise.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I'm still hoping Veeshan is the 3rd, been hoping since I first heard about the return of the gods.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>There isn't a 3rd neutral. This is intentional that there is no 9th god.</P> <P> </P> <P>Just gotta wait for Veeshan later down the line in a few more expansions or whenever.</P>
Vyrance
10-14-2006, 10:29 AM
a few of you seem to have it backwards on what brell thinks of the ratonga. brell disapproved of the first "ratonga" which were the roekillik, because they were too evil and too dangerous, so he locked them away and created the ratonga, the ones people can play as now.<div></div>
steelbadger
10-15-2006, 03:02 AM
nope, brell locked up the origional roekillik but he was also unhappy with their powers of deception (had from the touch of bristlbane when they where created). Not that he it is said anywhere that he was sufficiently displeased to destroy them again though. But he has also been completely detached from the ratongas and has had no dealings with us at all.It is stated on the official site and in the prima guide that the ratonga show no spiritual inclinations or visible worship of any diety.About the only thing remotely resembling it is the symbol that many have tattoo'd or emblazoned on their chest, which is described in the prima guide as a series of circles, one inside the another. Closer examination shows unaligned gaps in each circle.I think that this is probably related to the wheel of vaniki, but there the trail ends for me as I have no idea what the wheel means, or who vaniki may be.<div></div>
wesblueeyes
10-15-2006, 09:56 AM
Rallos Zek or Solusek Ro...cant make up my mind =(<div></div>
Shailas
10-15-2006, 06:48 PM
Innoruuk for sure. My Human Necromancer in EQ1 was all about Innoruuk and preached his Hate to all her groupmates...weather they wanted to hear it or not. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I can't see myself proclaiming any other deity for my main. <div></div>
Kindayr
10-16-2006, 02:41 AM
<DIV>Sixtus the Ex-Paladin of the Overlord is a Legion of Fear. Enlightened by an Iksar Priest when he attempted to enter Stormhold as a young Knight. Everything is based out of fear, even the Ranks of Truth show fear towards their leaders.</DIV>
Ennis
10-16-2006, 03:18 AM
Solusek Ro for Amer. Tunare for Nahanni though I wish Karana was around...<div></div>
TheKons
10-16-2006, 04:57 AM
Any suggestions what a wood elf berserker should worship? Rallos Zek would be my choice but i can't. =/<div></div>
Kindayr
10-16-2006, 07:25 AM
Of course they can! Betrayal <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Seriously though, Tunare or Marr would be my guess. Tunare for your race, or Marr because maybe you're a Truthful crazy person?
Renita_Serafim
10-16-2006, 10:31 AM
After tweaking Renita's backstory to accomidate for deity worship, the obvious choice of deity for her is Rallos Zek, considering Renita's past in the 2nd Rallosian War and her life philosophy.
Deadrus
10-16-2006, 10:14 PM
My iksars will worship their creater god Cazic Thule my Dark elf Shadowknight will of course worship the god of Hate Innoruk himself. And my Woodelf Ranger will probaly worship tunare but it might be funny for him to worship Innoruk and have him ear the tile Destroyer of Faries.
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