Are half-elves sterile?

[GCT]

<DIV>In Shadowbane they were, but of course I know that that was a completely different loreset.  I thought it made sense.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would rather not be plagued with people running around saying they are 1/8 elf or 11/16 human (when they look like half-elves).</DIV><p>Message Edited by GCT on <span class=date_text>07-27-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:43 AM</span>

[Whazy]

Maybe the name fo the race should change from Half-Elf to Mutts, or Partial Elf.

[OrcMugger]

<DIV>It is possible for them to be sterile as mules and hinny's are.  But ligers are fertile, so it is possible that half elves are, as well.  Besides, Tunare and the Marr's could have done anything they wanted.</DIV>

[Salmastryon]

<div></div>Antonia Bayle has a half-elf back in her lineage, so half-elves aren't sterile.  In fact, that half-elf was the child of one of the Bayles and an elf, forget their names atm.  There was a thread that discussed it awhile back somewhere on this board.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Salmastryon on <span class=date_text>07-27-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:18 AM</span>

[RaphaNissi]

<div><blockquote><hr>Salmastryon wrote:<div></div>Antonia Bayle has a half-elf back in her lineage, so half-elves aren't sterile.  In fact, that half-elf was the child of one of the Bayles and an elf, forget their names atm.  There was a thread that discussed it awhile back somewhere on this board.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Salmastryon on <span class="date_text">07-27-2006</span> <span class="time_text">11:18 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Shaonia, the daughter of Antonius Bayle IV and Lady Shae.</div>

[Sabatini]

They arent sterile. In fact there's every indication that Half Elves breed with other Half Elves to the point of nearly becoming a race unto itself. Why else would they have a language? (though in my head, Ary'dal is a mix of human/elvish slang, much like the slanguage pirates of different nationalites used in the carribean.)

[GCT]

Ahh... so not every half-elf is the product of an elf and a human, but could be the product of two half-elves as well?  Interesting.  And confusing.  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Zheen]

Now I feel really dumb because I just asked this question on a different thread **shrug**

[KniteShayd]

<P>I know it is not eq 2 lore, but in the forgotten realms book series,  the was a settling where half-elves lived and married other half elves.</P> <P>In the <EM>Rogue's Hour , </EM>a novel on EQLive, there was a woman mentioned that "... had a faint hint of dark elf"</P> <P>I wouldn't see why they wouldn't be able to have children any way.</P> <P>What i would like to see is a half-elf/half barbarian mix.</P> <P>my main, if i role play him, is a half human/ quarter wood elf/ quarter high elf</P>

[GCT]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zheen wrote:<BR>Now I feel really dumb because I just asked this question on a different thread **shrug**<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT color=#9933ff>Bah, you got a red reply and I didn't.  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT>

[Jindrack]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> GCT wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zheen wrote:<BR>Now I feel really dumb because I just asked this question on a different thread **shrug**<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT color=#9933ff>Bah, you got a red reply and I didn't.  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Half-elves are not sterile, Riala. :smileyvery-happy:

[LoreLady]

As far as genetics go, you cannot breed an elf and a human and expect a half elf to populate.. It is two diffrent species (well, I dont know how the elves came to being.. So I am going to say diffrent on the evolution chain). If you breed a lion and a tiger, a liger cannot breed with another lion, tiger, or another liger.

[Kytraan]

Funny you should mention the Liger, it was the first thing I thought of when I saw this thread. Yes a Liger (they do exist and that is the correct name for them) can sucessfully breed with a lion or a tiger. Its been done. They call a tiger / Liger half breed a Ti Liger (also heard them called a Ti Li). You can find the basic information about them at the <a href="http://www.sierrasafarizoo.com/animals/liger.htm" target=_blank>Sierra Safari Zoo</a> website. You can see some better pictures at <a href="http://www.tigers-animal-actors.com/about/liger/liger.html" target=_blank>Tiger-Animal-Actors</a>. These are the folks who provide the tiger show for King Richards faire and such. Thats where I got to see a real Liger <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span><div></div>

[Kordran]

<P>The comparison to ligers and tigons isn't exactly right, since both animals are members of the genus <EM>Panthera</EM>. Presumably humans and elves (were they to really exist) would be more than simply different species, they would belong to different genera as well. In other words, I doubt that elves, given their nature, would be classified under the genus <EM>[Removed for Content]</EM>, as humans, barbarians and erudites would be. In fact, elves might not even belong to the <EM>Animalia</EM> kingdom for that matter.</P> <P> </P>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kordran wrote:<BR> <P>The comparison to ligers and tigons isn't exactly right, since both animals are members of the genus <EM>Panthera</EM>. Presumably humans and elves (were they to really exist) would be more than simply different species, they would belong to different genera as well. In other words, I doubt that elves, given their nature, would be classified under the genus <EM>[Removed for Content]</EM>, as humans, barbarians and erudites would be. In fact, elves might not even belong to the <EM>Animalia</EM> kingdom for that matter.</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Latin doesn't exist in Norrath, and neither does the Earth Scientific Standard of Classification.</P> <P> </P> <P>Humans aren't [Removed for Content] Sapiens. They're Human.</P>

[Kordran]

<DIV>So <EM><STRONG>you</STRONG></EM> say, oh personage of blue naming. :smileyvery-happy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Edit: And even if you're correct, my point is reinforced. Comparison between half-elves and half-breed species here on Earth like the liger and tigon are flawed.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Kordran on <span class=date_text>07-27-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:06 PM</span>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kordran wrote:<BR> <DIV>So <EM><STRONG>you</STRONG></EM> say, oh personage of blue naming. :smileyvery-happy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Edit: And even if you're correct, my point is reinforced. Comparison between half-elves and half-breed species here on Earth like the liger and tigon are flawed.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Kordran on <SPAN class=date_text>07-27-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:06 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I never argued that point.  Half Elf is by far a politically incorrect name for them, since the odds of parent genetics being exactly 50-50 are very unlikely.

[Kordran]

<P>Politically incorrect? Heh.</P>

[Powers]

As far as I know, half-elves have never been sterile.  In fact, according to the lore, by the time of EQ2 they breed true.  (Presumably, at some point in the past, two half-elves who mated were likely to have children who were mostly human or elf, rather than half-elf.  In EQ2 time, two half-elves are likely to have children who are themselves half-elves.  Not that they're "half elven" per se, but that's the common name.)Powers  &8^]<div></div>

[vikingthug]

<FONT color=#66ff00>Dear god, youve got to be kidding me.  Whats next, Do Ogres floss?  Do Dwarves suffer from excessive nose hair.. Are Gnomes prone to Obsessive Compulsive Disorder?  Tune Next time for "As Norrath Turns".</FONT>

[Zabjade]

<blockquote><hr>vikingthug wrote:<div></div><font color="#66ff00">Dear god, youve got to be kidding me.  Whats next, Do Ogres floss?  Do Dwarves suffer from excessive nose hair.. Are Gnomes prone to Obsessive Compulsive Disorder?  Tune Next time for "As Norrath Turns".</font><hr></blockquote><font color="#66ff00" face="Comic Sans MS"><font size="2">Freeport no usually, Qeynos yes.<span>:smileywink:</span>  Mostly the males, although some females also suffer that malady, and it's not polite to point out. <span>:smileysurprised:</span>  Some are, and produce the most stable of Gnomish inventions, the rest suffer from ADD. <span>:smileytongue:</span> </font></font><div></div>

[GCT]

<FONT color=#6633ff>Why do people feel the need to post [Removed for Content] remarks?  The question has been answered by a dev.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT>

[Kordran]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> GCT wrote:<BR> <FONT color=#6633ff>Why do people feel the need to post [Removed for Content] remarks?  The question has been answered by a dev.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That was a rhetorical question, right? :smileytongue:

[vikingthug]

<DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>Zabjade wrote:<U><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00>Freeport no usually, Qeynos yes.<SPAN><IMG height=16 src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" width=16 border=0></SPAN>  Mostly the males, although some females also suffer that malady, and it's not polite to point out. <SPAN><IMG height=16 src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif" width=16 border=0></SPAN>  Some are, and produce the most stable of Gnomish inventions, the rest suffer from ADD. </FONT><SPAN><IMG height=16 src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif" width=16 border=0></SPAN><BR></U></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00><EM><FONT color=#66ff00>Awsome reply, glad to see some folks dont take it too serriously....Those poor poor gnomes.</FONT></EM><BR></FONT></DIV>