Bristlebane

[OrcMugger]

<DIV>There is a lot of this in the 9 prophets thread:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><<No Bristlebane?  *sniffle*  what's a halfling to do?  *cry* <SPAN><IMG height=16 src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" width=16 border=0>>></SPAN></DIV> <P><SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN>Well, Marveloz De'luxe is an Erudite and firmly believes that Bristlebane was secretly the ONLY god who didn't desert us....darn him!</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>"Oh, Bristlebane, Please leave me alone today!"  But his prayers are never answered.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>"There is no god but Bristlebane, and Murphy is His Prophet."</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>Poor Marv is a bit nuts on the subject, believing that Bristleband follows him around thinking of ways to make his life harder.</SPAN></P> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Uhhh.. I applaud your sense of roleplay, but Bristlebane is just about the last god an Erudite would ever worship. To show anything but a logical sense of thinking is practically heresy within even the heretics of Odus. :p</DIV>

[Ordate]

<P>One does not need to actively worship something (aka acknowledge it as their faith) in order to somewhat worship the god.  Say for instance there is a god of luck.  Everytime we random on some loot, were offering up a small devotion to this god.  Another example would be Mayongs ascent to godhood in EQ1s Depths of Darkhollow storyline.</P> <P>And why would a Erudite not blame a god for bad luck?  Though the idea of luck might be foreign to an Erudite, they might grudgling acknowledge its exsistance.  As soon as they do that, one of the more logical ways to explain off bad luck is blame a diety when said diety's take an active roll in the society.</P> <P>PS:  I think the OP was more of a tounge in cheek then an actual roleplay stance.</P> <P> </P><p>Message Edited by Ordate on <span class=date_text>07-27-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:30 AM</span>

[OrcMugger]

<P>Marveloz  is an eminently practical sort, but has also been around Norrath enough to know that there are many things out there that he doesn't understand.  That is why he is a Field Wizard, going out and collecting data for the Concordium.  Besides, everyone in Norrath knows that there is more than one god.  It is impossible to believe in one god and deny the existence of any of the others (monomaniacal monotheism is pretty much a judeo-christian-islamic thing).  There is no reason an erudite can't begin to subscribe to Bristlebane's Law:  "If anything can go wrong it will."</P> <P>Besides, I already said Marv is a bit off on the subject.  I suspect he'll come around to Quellious just to ground himself.  But for now there are perfectly good Norrathian reasons for him thinking that Bristlebane is out to get him, and NO ONE can impose their own interpretation of the gods and lore to him. (or me).</P>

[Jindrack]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ordate wrote:<BR> <P>One does not need to actively worship something (aka acknowledge it as their faith) in order to somewhat worship the god.  Say for instance there is a god of luck. </P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Up until the withdrawl of the gods, there was a god of luck, Xev Bristlebane.  He is known as the younger twin brother of the much more notorious Fizzlethorpe Bristlebane, the god of mischief, usually just known as Bristlebane.  Well... that may not be true because no one knows for sure if Xev was a twin, or a personality of Fizzlethorpe, or just a character that Fizzlethorpe liked to play.  In any case, the dice gamblers of Maj'Dul call their cubes "Xevs" in reference to the god of luck in the hopes of getting the result they bet on.

[StaAk]

Xev is the god Stack would worship. Or maybe curse sometimes. Perfect choice for a rogue. Hopefully he's added in someday. I guess Stack will have to settle for Marr until then. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[KniteShayd]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jindrack wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ordate wrote:<BR> <P>One does not need to actively worship something (aka acknowledge it as their faith) in order to somewhat worship the god.  Say for instance there is a god of luck. </P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Up until the withdrawl of the gods, there was a god of luck, Xev Bristlebane.  He is known as the younger twin brother of the much more notorious Fizzlethorpe Bristlebane, the god of mischief, usually just known as Bristlebane.  Well... that may not be true because no one knows for sure if Xev was a twin, or a personality of Fizzlethorpe, or just a character that Fizzlethorpe liked to play.  In any case, the dice gamblers of Maj'Dul call their cubes <FONT color=#cc0066>"Xevs"</FONT> in reference to the god of luck in the hopes of getting the result they bet on.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Knew those were slang for dice, but thanks for that fun fact!<BR>

[NiamiDenMother]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jindrack wrote:<BR> <BR>Well... that may not be true because no one knows for sure if Xev was a twin, or a personality of Fizzlethorpe, or just a character that Fizzlethorpe liked to play.  <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>As a longtime worshiper of the more whimsical side of mischief, the 'Mum that was (EQ) tells her descendent, the 'Mum that is, that the answer as to which of the three possibilities is true is ...</P> <P>Yes    <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> KniteShayd wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jindrack wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ordate wrote:<BR> <P>One does not need to actively worship something (aka acknowledge it as their faith) in order to somewhat worship the god.  Say for instance there is a god of luck. </P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Up until the withdrawl of the gods, there was a god of luck, Xev Bristlebane.  He is known as the younger twin brother of the much more notorious Fizzlethorpe Bristlebane, the god of mischief, usually just known as Bristlebane.  Well... that may not be true because no one knows for sure if Xev was a twin, or a personality of Fizzlethorpe, or just a character that Fizzlethorpe liked to play.  In any case, the dice gamblers of Maj'Dul call their cubes <FONT color=#cc0066>"Xevs"</FONT> in reference to the god of luck in the hopes of getting the result they bet on.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Knew those were slang for dice, but thanks for that fun fact!<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>BTW: Horse Carts = Box Cars.

[Ordate]

<DIV>Nice tidbit I never knew.  Thanks!  Another interesting lore added to my databanks... err if you want to call my twisted mind that.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And Mum!  I miss your tickle rezzes!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(This is Jhovial if your remember me)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>PS: I think my guildmates are going to get [Removed for Content] at me as I say something akin to "Come on Xev let me win the phat loot!"</DIV><p>Message Edited by Ordate on <span class=date_text>07-27-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:27 PM</span>

[Kendricke]

<img src="http://www.legion-whiterose.com/images/d_bristlebane.gif">Xev and Fizzlethorpe Bristlebane (from the original Everquest Gods and Goddesses reference page).

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kendricke wrote:<BR><IMG src="http://www.legion-whiterose.com/images/d_bristlebane.gif"><BR><BR>Xev and Fizzlethorpe Bristlebane (from the original Everquest Gods and Goddesses reference page).<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Notice how Xev is a puppet being controlled by Bristlebane there?</P> <P> </P> <P>Why else wouldn't his feet touch the ground?</P>

[Ordate]

<P>Wasn't fizzlethrope known to take on the form of a human bard as well as a halfer as such, wouldnt that just be the two depictions of him assuming he isnt Xev also?</P> <P> </P>

[RaphaNissi]

<div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Kendricke wrote:<img src="http://www.legion-whiterose.com/images/d_bristlebane.gif">Xev and Fizzlethorpe Bristlebane (from the original Everquest Gods and Goddesses reference page). <hr> </blockquote> <p>Notice how Xev is a puppet being controlled by Bristlebane there?</p> <p>Why else wouldn't his feet touch the ground?</p><hr></blockquote>I've been looking and looking and can't seem to figure out what you mean by this.  I see one in front with both feet on the ground.  The other in the back is leaning against a wall with one foot on the ground and the other one crossed over it.</div>

[vikingthug]

<FONT color=#66ff00>/bump for attention to detail</FONT>

[OrcMugger]

<BLOCKQUOTE>Cusashorn wrote: <HR> Kendricke wrote:<BR><IMG src="http://www.legion-whiterose.com/images/d_bristlebane.gif"><BR><BR>Xev and Fizzlethorpe Bristlebane (from the original Everquest Gods and Goddesses reference page).<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Notice how Xev is a puppet being controlled by Bristlebane there?</P> <P> </P> <P>Why else wouldn't his feet touch the ground?</P> <P>__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _____________________________</P> <P> </P> <P>Fizzlethorpe isn't playing Xev like a puppet.  He's playing a banjo, probably badly.  Zev is just crouching down, looking sneaky.  And his feet are touching the ground...its a drawing.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Bobbiac]

thats a lute silly<div></div>

[Vollux]

<P>Xev is playing the lute not Bristlebane.</P> <P>edit : IMHO as creator of the halflings I've always imagined him as the short one.  It is easier to pick pockets from that height.</P><p>Message Edited by Vollux on <span class=date_text>07-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:18 PM</span>

[Coccinea_Maga]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vollux wrote:<BR> <P>Xev is playing the lute not Bristlebane.</P> <P>edit : IMHO as creator of the halflings I've always imagined him as the short one.  It is easier to pick pockets from that height.</P> <P>Message Edited by Vollux on <SPAN class=date_text>07-28-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>12:18 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>From what I remember from the Plane of Mischief in EQLive, Fizzlethorpe Bristlebane is a halfling.

[Cusashorn]

<P>Bristlebane (pictured here at 3 times the size of an ogre because it's part of the event) created the Halflings in his image. He's the short one in the above picture, and I cannot see any legs to speak of comming from Xev. I see the pants that cut off at the knee, and thats it.</P> <P><IMG src="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/pics/Bristlebane_the_King_of_Thieves.JPG"></P>

[Vollux]

<IMG src="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/Ravenstein/EQ2%20screenshots/stickmanlute.jpg">

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>................ cool. thanks for clearing that up.</DIV>

[OrcMugger]

<P>OK, my bad as to which one was who. This is still a learning experience for me, so thanks for the corrections.  BUT...given Bristlebane's general taste and classiness it could be a banjo....:smileywink:</P> <P> </P>

[Dregor]

They're both Fizzlethorpe.  As stated above, he doesn't only take on one form.  That artworks been around longer than Xev has been <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[DreamerClou]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <P>Bristlebane (pictured here at 3 times the size of an ogre because it's part of the event) created the Halflings in his image. He's the short one in the above picture, and I cannot see any legs to speak of comming from Xev. I see the pants that cut off at the knee, and thats it.</P> <P><IMG src="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/pics/Bristlebane_the_King_of_Thieves.JPG"></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P> </P> <P>I can't tell if he's grinning or constipated; or both. lol<BR></P>

[Coccinea_Maga]

<div><blockquote><hr>Dregor wrote:They're both Fizzlethorpe.  As stated above, he doesn't only take on one form.  That artworks been around longer than Xev has been <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div><hr></blockquote>What was stated above is that it isn't known if Xev is a twin, a personality, or a character of Fizzlethorpe.  Just because Xev might not have been introduced until later, doesn't mean he didn't exsist in the original design concept.</div>

[Ordate]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Coccinea_Maga wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR>What was stated above is that it isn't known if Xev is a twin, a personality, or a character of Fizzlethorpe.  Just because Xev might not have been introduced until later, doesn't mean he didn't exsist in the original design concept.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR>But what is stated in the original design concepts is that bristlbane sometimes takes the form of a human bard <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Dregor]

<div><blockquote><hr>Coccinea_Maga wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>Dregor wrote:They're both Fizzlethorpe.  As stated above, he doesn't only take on one form.  That artworks been around longer than Xev has been <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div><hr></blockquote>What was stated above is that it isn't known if Xev is a twin, a personality, or a character of Fizzlethorpe.  Just because Xev might not have been introduced until later, doesn't mean he didn't exsist in the original design concept.</div><hr></blockquote>I won't be able to convince you either way, but the pantheon of gods now and the pantheon of gods upon the EQ1's initial release are entirely different beasts.  With a couple exceptions, what was in the game manual was the extent of the gods design document at the time.  I'm all for people speculating on stuff like this (it's why this is basically the only sub-forum I read!), but sometimes what's in front of you is just what it seems.  It's long been stated that Fizzlethorpe Bristlebane often takes on numerous guises for the purposes of creating mischief, the human bard playing the lute in the picture being a common one.</div>

[Dregor]

<div><blockquote><hr>DreamerCloud9 wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr><div></div></blockquote> <p> I can't tell if he's grinning or constipated; or both. lol</p><hr></blockquote>The face is doubly disturbing when you see it stretched out in a flat texture instead of wrapped around a model.  shudder <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  And how the heck do I get rid of imbedded quotes!  hehe</div>