The Nine Prophets and The Keeper of Secrets?

[Ama]

<DIV>As we know the nine prophets have emerged telling the tales of the different gods.  My question however is about The Keeper of Secrets who is infront of a locked door.  The door is now silent displaying no message and when I went up to the keeper he divulged a bit of a vague comment.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>*Not 100% sure if this is right but it is along these lines*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When the one who came from the waters is made whole again the nine shall reveal themselves. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I will go in game today and see if I can get the fully intact statement from the keeper.  I'm still curious as to what it is that this Keeper is guarding or keeping from the mortals of Norrath?  Maybe just maybe that door behind him leads to a cordined off area of Nektulos which contains a portal/pyramid which leads to a secret portion of the Overrealm. </DIV>

[Jal]

<blockquote><hr>Amana wrote:<DIV>As we know the nine prophets have emerged telling the tales of the different gods.  My question however is about The Keeper of Secrets who is infront of a locked door.  The door is now silent displaying no message and when I went up to the keeper he divulged a bit of a vague comment.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>*Not 100% sure if this is right but it is along these lines*</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>When the one who came from the waters is made whole again the nine shall reveal themselves. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I will go in game today and see if I can get the fully intact statement from the keeper.  I'm still curious as to what it is that this Keeper is guarding or keeping from the mortals of Norrath?  Maybe just maybe that door behind him leads to a cordined off area of Nektulos which contains a portal/pyramid which leads to a secret portion of the Overrealm. </DIV><hr></blockquote>One who came from the water = ZebuxorukNine = nine gods whose prophets have appeared in gameDoubtful it has anything to do with the overrealm.

[RaphaNissi]

I always thought it was connected to Lavastorm.  /shrugOh, and there is a whole other thread around here about the Keeper and what he is saying.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>RaphaNissi wrote:I always thought it was connected to Lavastorm.  /shrugOh, and there is a whole other thread around here about the Keeper and what he is saying.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div><hr></blockquote>It used to be the Lavastorm gate, back before the islands got seperated. But now it houses a greater evil, The Behemoth.

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Yeah that keeper of the Secrets updates it's message every now and then in relation to the next expansion comming out.</DIV>

[AegisCrown]

so do we know all the god yeti know good are mithaniel marr, tunare, and quelliousevil are innoruuk, ???, ???neutral are ???, ???, ???<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Good: </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Quellious</DIV> <DIV>Tunare</DIV> <DIV>Mithanial Marr</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Neutral:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Solusek Ro</DIV> <DIV>Brell Serilis</DIV> <DIV>?????</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Evil:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Innoruuk</DIV> <DIV>Cazic Thule</DIV> <DIV>Rallos Zek.</DIV>

[Anzak]

I can't see how anyone can think Sol Ro will be neutral.  He was dead set on the destruction of Norrath and was in the forfront to some plot to which Tunare and Quellious thought was important enough to risk breaking the pact they where bond to with the other gods.<div></div>

[Ama]

<DIV>*From the Tome of Destiny on the Council of the Gods*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"There is only one solution: Destroy them all."<BR><BR>Rallos Zek's burning eyes moved disdainfully from one god to the next, hoping his harsh edict had convinced more of them to take his side. It had been countless ages since virtually all the gods had gathered together like this, and he did not intend to miss the opportunity to expand his influence.<BR><BR>"I maintain that this would be an overreaction," Tunare said, shaking her head. The mortals need our guidance, not our wrath. We should inspire them and strengthen the spirituality within them, not snuff it out."<BR><BR>"You mean your precious elves?" Rallos countered. "Did they need your guidance as their greed soiled your plane, murdering your servants in their lust for power and wealth? Attacking the very manifestation of your being as if you were a boar for the slaughter?"<BR><BR>She scowled and shook her head. "That is your influence at work, Rallos. It was only when they breached the Planes of Power that you lost the delight you had taken in their growing viciousness."<BR><BR>"We all agree that the mortals have gone too far," Brell interjected, sensing the need to interrupt before the argument dragged on further. "But surely the answer isn't to wipe away all our handiwork. After all, it is only a few races that have committed offenses worthy of such action. Perhaps a selective pruning is in order rather than complete annihilation."<BR><BR>Solusek Ro shook his head. "I must agree with Rallos on this matter. Wipe them out; it is the only way."<BR><BR>"The solution is obvious," interjected Cazic-Thule. "If my influence were allowed to grow, the mortals would not be in a position to challenge us. Fear will keep them in check, as it always should have."<BR><BR>Karana scowled. "Preposterous. It has been proven that any one of us alone can be overcome by the mortals. It is underestimating them that has brought us to this place, that has forced us to become allies in action if not in principle. But the solution must be one that we can all agree to."<BR><BR>"How can you be so blind?" Rallos growled. "How can you not see that the mortals must be made to pay for their insolence?"<BR><BR>"You ignore the honor in their hearts," Mithaniel Marr countered. "They have earned the right to exist, to ascend to greatness."<BR><BR>"Greatness?" Innoruuk cackled gleefully. "Leave them to their own devices and they will devour themselves in jealousy and hatred. The solution is not for us to kill them, but to step aside and let them feed upon each other."<BR><BR>"We don't have time for that," Solusek Ro asserted. "The demi-planes are already weakened--in fact, some have simply faded from existence, as our powers have grown too thin to sustain them. We must refocus our resources and strike back while we still can."<BR><BR>Quellious had listened to the bickering for what seemed like ages. Though time had no meaning for them in this place, she could bear to listen no longer. She spoke softly, yet with a directness that silenced the others.<BR><BR>"I propose a compromise," she said, her gaze moving from one god to the next. "It will not be ideal for any of us, and it does not come without risk. But I feel it is the only way to satisfy all our objectives and restore balance between us and the mortals."<BR><BR>Bristlebane perked an ear. "Speak, please, for this endless debate is maddening even for me."<BR><BR>Quellious continued. "We all agree the mortals have gained too much power, but there are non-destructive ways to correct this. There is also a way for us to regain our strength, though it means removing our influence from this world for a time. But if we all agree--including those who sit upon the greater wheel of Elemental Power--it could save us all."<BR><BR>"Speak, Tranquil One," Xegony said, breaking her long silence. "We will listen to your proposal."<BR><BR>Quellious nodded. "It is through their unity that the mortals initially became strong. The first thing we must do is to disrupt that unity…"<BR><BR>When Quellious had finished, Erollisi Marr nodded. "It would be an acceptable compromise."<BR><BR>"Agreed," her twin brother added.<BR><BR>"It does not matter to me," Innoruuk grinned, "for I still believe that the mortals will destroy themselves eventually."<BR><BR>Brell rubbed his chin thoughtfully. "I will do as you suggest."<BR><BR>The Faceless shrugged. "It seems like a waste of time, but I will follow the wishes of this council."<BR><BR>Tunare sighed sadly. "I will do what you ask in order to make this work."<BR><BR>Fennin Ro spoke for the first time since he had entered the chamber. "The rulers of the Elemental Planes will abide by this decision."<BR><BR>One by one the other gods either agreed or said nothing, nodding silently.<BR><BR>Quellious eyed Rallos Zek as he whispered something to Solusek Ro. The Prince of Flame shook his head.<BR><BR>"We agree," the god of War said at last. "When does it begin?"<BR><BR>"In seven mortal days' time, we will act as one. Will that be long enough to do what is needed?"<BR><BR>"It will," Solusek Ro said coldly. Tunare nodded with reluctance.<BR><BR>"Then it is agreed," the Tribunal spoke in a single voice. "This council stands adjourned."<BR><BR>The gods began to leave the chambers, but Quellious lingered. She noticed as Rallos approached Cazic-Thule and began to whisper something to him, and watched as Solusek Ro did the same to Brell.<BR><BR>Tunare stood next to her. "Is this really the only way?"<BR><BR>"I believe it is," Quellious responded softly. "But I think we need to remain watchful, as not everyone may honor the intent of this pact."<BR><BR>Karana approached the two goddesses. "I have some trepidation in this matter, and I'd wager you feel the same."<BR><BR>"I do," replied Quellious. "But I have another proposal to share with the two of you to ensure our interests are preserved."<BR><BR>As the three gods left the council chamber together, Rallos Zek eyed them loathingly. He muttered to himself. "So, Quellious, you have your allies and I have mine. But your weakness will be your downfall. Let the endgame begin."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>*end part*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My question is if Rallos Zek has followers why would he kill them?  Right outside the dismal rage you have people talking about the prince of hate Innorukk and how his followers will be saved.  However if you really think about it will Innorrukk really save them or just kill them once he has obtained ultimate power as they say?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also wanted to mention we are probably already ticking the gods off again.  They created the shattering yet through Mortal Perserverance, Persistance, and sheer Tenacity we have thrived.  Right now there are 3 and I guess soon to be 4 discovered cities within the world of Norrath.  You have the beloved City of Qeynos with the kind ruler Antonia Bayle, then you have the dictorship ruled city of Freeport with the mighty Overlord Lucan D'Lere.  Then you have the strange Maj'dul city which seems ruled by 1 of the 3 courts at the time whichever is most abundant in that city. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Even though the gods have shattered the continents, destroyed cities, and crushed some hopes we mortals still persist on.  I deffinately think gods like Rallos Zek that want all mortals destroyed are pretty peeved off at our accomplishments.  This including our accomplishment of reaching the Overrealm once more.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Amana on <span class=date_text>07-25-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:53 PM</span>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Anzak wrote:<BR>I can't see how anyone can think Sol Ro will be neutral.  He was dead set on the destruction of Norrath and was in the forfront to some plot to which Tunare and Quellious thought was important enough to risk breaking the pact they where bond to with the other gods.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Lets keep this to the other thread please.</P> <P>Anyway: Solusek Ro is neutral. Just because he as a god showed an evil personality, doesn't mean that he is. On the Sullon Zek server in EQlive, He was Neutral as a religious choice.</P> <P>On the regular servers, choosing Solusek Ro as a diety gave you generally neutral faction relations with most of the rest of the world as well.</P>

[Wilde_Night]

I hope they offer Prexus as a neutral choice.  He makes sense with the two major cities being port cities.

[Anzak]

<div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Anzak wrote:I can't see how anyone can think Sol Ro will be neutral.  He was dead set on the destruction of Norrath and was in the forfront to some plot to which Tunare and Quellious thought was important enough to risk breaking the pact they where bond to with the other gods. <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>Lets keep this to the other thread please.</p> <p>Anyway: Solusek Ro is neutral. Just because he as a god showed an evil personality, doesn't mean that he is. On the Sullon Zek server in EQlive, He was Neutral as a religious choice.</p> <p>On the regular servers, choosing Solusek Ro as a diety gave you generally neutral faction relations with most of the rest of the world as well.</p><hr></blockquote>So because he was neutral in one age means he must stay Neutral?  Remember we are talking about beings that are closer to humans in nature than true divine entites.  So they have emtions and feeling and while there power is bound to certain aspects they can change their minds about how to manage that aspect.  While Neutral to begin with Solusek Ro has always seemed to lean slightly towards the evil way of thinking.  So with the meeting of the god and what Rallos said to him it is very possible that he has shifted.  And I would not be suprized in the least if he shows up an an evil deityI personally think if there are limiting it to 3 evil they will be Cazic-ThuleSoluske RoRallos ZekWe have seen hints of all 3 still have strong ties and the orignal lore shows us they are in league.</div>

[Ama]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Anzak wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Anzak wrote:<BR>I can't see how anyone can think Sol Ro will be neutral.  He was dead set on the destruction of Norrath and was in the forfront to some plot to which Tunare and Quellious thought was important enough to risk breaking the pact they where bond to with the other gods.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Lets keep this to the other thread please.</P> <P>Anyway: Solusek Ro is neutral. Just because he as a god showed an evil personality, doesn't mean that he is. On the Sullon Zek server in EQlive, He was Neutral as a religious choice.</P> <P>On the regular servers, choosing Solusek Ro as a diety gave you generally neutral faction relations with most of the rest of the world as well.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>So because he was neutral in one age means he must stay Neutral?  Remember we are talking about beings that are closer to humans in nature than true divine entites.  So they have emtions and feeling and while there power is bound to certain aspects they can change their minds about how to manage that aspect.  While Neutral to begin with Solusek Ro has always seemed to lean slightly towards the evil way of thinking.  So with the meeting of the god and what Rallos said to him it is very possible that he has shifted.  And I would not be suprized in the least if he shows up an an evil deity<BR><BR>I personally think if there are limiting it to 3 evil they will be <BR>Cazic-Thule<BR>Soluske Ro<BR>Rallos Zek<BR><BR>We have seen hints of all 3 still have strong ties and the orignal lore shows us they are in league.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I don't know I would put Innoruk up there alongside Cazic-Thule course it is hard to say since Innoruk doesn't seem to give a dang one way or another about us or his followers.  </P> <P><BR> </P>

[RaphaNissi]

Not meaning to offend anyone, but the argue about the gods is in 3 or 4 other posts in at least two different sections of the forums.  We can argue till November (I personally would rather NOT hear the same stuff for the next 4 months), but no one knows anything until the game or developer confirms it.  Can we at least keep the debate in the other threads that have already been started and are still going strong?  Please?<div></div>

[Anzak]

Actually the more I think about it the more I think the whole 3-3-3 break down is not what is going to happen.<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Anzak wrote:<BR>Actually the more I think about it the more I think the whole 3-3-3 break down is not what is going to happen.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Not to mention on the Test server there is a quest found in Qeynos Harbor that, upon completing, CONFIRMS that Hate, War, and Fear are the 3 evil dieties, so process of elimination leaves Sol Ro as Neutral.

[Phylok]

<DIV>Who is the quest starter in Qeynos Harbor Cush?</DIV>

[Lonissa]

Bayden was moved from NQ to the Commonlands and his champions are in QH and NQ telling you to visit him for a quest.  See the Nine Prophets thread for more info.<div></div>

[Anzak]

<div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Anzak wrote:Actually the more I think about it the more I think the whole 3-3-3 break down is not what is going to happen. <div></div> <hr> </blockquote>Not to mention on the Test server there is a quest found in Qeynos Harbor that, upon completing, CONFIRMS that Hate, War, and Fear are the 3 evil dieties, so process of elimination leaves Sol Ro as Neutral.<hr></blockquote>Just from the Lore in the Tome of Destiny I would say this.Rallos Zek, Sol Ro, Cazic Thule, and Brell are going to be evil now because of their actions.Tunare, Quellious, and Karana are the good pact.There are signs in game of Innoruks return so you can bet that is one more for evil.Methainal Marr will not stand by in the face of this he will take action.So if you are dead set on only nine there you have it 5 evil and 4 good.Though as I said I don't then whole 3-3-3 thing fits nor does just the return of 9 of the gods.As to the Quests on test well they are just a part of the puzzle and just because there is nothing in game live or test that yet confirms it.  The Lore does point to Sol Ro siding with evil and until we see some lore showing him changing that siding I have to assume he still sides with them.</div>

[Ama]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Anzak wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Anzak wrote:<BR>Actually the more I think about it the more I think the whole 3-3-3 break down is not what is going to happen.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Not to mention on the Test server there is a quest found in Qeynos Harbor that, upon completing, CONFIRMS that Hate, War, and Fear are the 3 evil dieties, so process of elimination leaves Sol Ro as Neutral.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Just from the Lore in the Tome of Destiny I would say this.<BR><BR>Rallos Zek, Sol Ro, Cazic Thule, and Brell are going to be evil now because of their actions.<BR>Tunare, Quellious, and Karana are the good pact.<BR><BR>There are signs in game of Innoruks return so you can bet that is one more for evil.<BR><BR>Methainal Marr will not stand by in the face of this he will take action.<BR><BR>So if you are dead set on only nine there you have it 5 evil and 4 good.<BR><BR>Though as I said I don't then whole 3-3-3 thing fits nor does just the return of 9 of the gods.<BR><BR>As to the Quests on test well they are just a part of the puzzle and just because there is nothing in game live or test that yet confirms it.  The Lore does point to Sol Ro siding with evil and until we see some lore showing him changing that siding I have to assume he still sides with them.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I don't know its hard to say who will be good and evil beyond the preset people as you say Anzak. We have hate, fear, and war as evil then we have the good side devoting themselves to helping us mortals out.  This being where they help out the people who devote themselves to assisting others instead of looking to dominate them. </P> <P>You may then have the neutral gods themselves who are not on one side or another as it were.  I mean how many gods are there it looks like there are more than 9 and of those gods it can't be a total 50/50 split good and evil.  You will have some on the side of evil, some on the side of good, then have some being neutral where they help out who they will because they feel like it or to advance their own cause like nagafen does.</P>