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Ama
07-18-2006, 05:55 AM
<DIV>*Copied word for word from the EQ2 main area from the lore section*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Long ago in the Age of Turmoil, the famed gnomish artist C.M. Brushwuttle was commissioned by the Knights of Truth and the Paladins of Marr in Freeport to create an iconic statue that could be used to represent the ideal of a valorous knight. To do this, Brushwuttle envisioned a gallant avatar, almost a god-like being that he called "The Cavalier." The face of the Cavalier would be partially shrouded by a cloak. This was done to represent the humility of the true knight as well as mask the knight's race - something that did not matter among the valorous. The Cavalier was heavily armored and held the hilt of a grand broadsword. The broadsword was actually patterned after the Sword of Faith, a sword once given to knight-lords of the Knights of Truth. The Cavalier was not aligned to any particular deity, but was intended to symbolize a figure of great faith. Thus the icon of the Cavalier was born.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Knights of Truth and the Priests of Marr were overwhelmed by the powerful visage of the Cavalier. It was erected in a prominent place within their quarter of Freeport, and Brushwuttle was promptly commissioned to sculpt four more. Soon visiting knights to the city gazed upon the statue and were just as moved by it. New orders came in to Brushwuttle from numerous orders of knights. As time went on, the Cavalier became the iconic sculpture for valor and knighthood. It can be found in nearly every corner of the world where great knights gather, and even in the ruins where they once existed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Commonlands: Just beyond the northern walls of Freeport lie the remains of what were once the original statues of the Cavalier. It was here that Lucan D'Lere, the Overlord of Freeport, ordered them dragged for a ritual desecration when he assumed complete control of the city. Rumor has it that one or more of the original statues were rescued from destruction and taken deep into the Commonlands where they now rest. Why and where have yet to be answered.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Qeynos Castle: Within the great city of Qeynos stands the grandeur of Qeynos Castle. Flanking its main entrance are two ancient Cavalier statues commissioned during the end days of the Age of War. The king ordered them placed at the main gates as iconic guardians of valor watching over the city. People often refer to these statues in tandem as the Sentinels of Valor.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>*end copy*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is an interesting tale but to me it is very very vague only detailing the story of how the statues came into being.  Their creation being the magnificent work of C.M. Brushwuttle when he was commisioned to create it. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have one question though that has been kinda tuggin on my mind after reading this and that question is about the sword "The Cavalier" holds.  It simple says that The Cavalier holds a sword known as the Sword of Faith given to the knight-lords of the Knights of Truth. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I must ask what is this Sword of Faith, who gave it to the knight-lords, why did they give it to the knight-lords of the knights of truth and what powers does the Sword of Faith hold within its mighty blade?</DIV>

Cusashorn
07-18-2006, 06:30 AM
<DIV>Lets see... There doesn't seem to be such a sword from EQlive according to the database. I'm guessing it's just a decorative sword that looks just like the one in the statue. Go check the Wisp Grove (or what used to be the wisp grove) in Commonlands to see one of those said statues.</DIV>

troodon
07-18-2006, 06:52 AM
<A href="http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=13622" target=_blank>Maybe?</A>

Cusashorn
07-18-2006, 07:41 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> troodon wrote:<BR> <A href="http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=13622" target=_blank>Maybe?</A><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Lawl. 1h blunt.

troodon
07-18-2006, 08:13 AM
What does "Lawl" mean?

Xxile
07-18-2006, 08:29 AM
<DIV><A href="http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=417" target=_blank>http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=417</A></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=21310" target=_blank>http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=21310</A></DIV>

RaphaNissi
07-18-2006, 08:45 AM
You had to obtain a Sword of Faith for the Soulfire quest in EQLive.  <div></div>

troodon
07-18-2006, 08:48 AM
<P>Good call</P> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr> <P></P> <HR> Valeron Dushire says 'Praise be to Marr!! You have done the impossible!! Sir Lucan is finally sent to the higher courts of the Tribunal. The city now has a chance to prosper. The Hall of Truth has been redeemed and gives you thanks. Take this. It is the Sword of Faith. May you wield it with righteousness. Beware of the remainder of the militia. They will be hunting for your head.' " <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>

RaphaNissi
07-18-2006, 09:01 AM
Since Valeron Dushire is the guildmaster, it would seem the sword is one of many that were bestowed upon those who have shown themselves worthy of such an honor.  In the quest, you received the Sword of Faith right after killing Lucan.  That might be part of why he hated the statues so much <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.<div></div>

Cusashorn
07-18-2006, 09:05 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> troodon wrote:<BR> What does "Lawl" mean?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Its a more sarcastic way of expessing LOL.</P> <P> </P> <P>Anyway. I searched for "Sword of Faith" at allakhazams and got nothing out of it, but that Brilliant Sword of Faith makes sense.</P>

Vhalen
07-18-2006, 10:11 PM
I was wondering if you Norrathians forgot about "The Cavalier." Brushwuttle would roll over in his grave if we all forgot one of his most important creations to date. Babble around the taverns is that the statues went on to serve a greater purpose than the artist's original intent.  

RingleToo
07-18-2006, 10:23 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vhalen wrote:<BR> I was wondering if you Norrathians forgot about "The Cavalier." Brushwuttle would roll over in his grave if we all forgot one of his most important creations to date. Babble around the taverns is that the statues went on to serve a greater purpose than the artist's original intent.  <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>But maybe they is just a bunch of babble rousers going around rousing babbles.

Cusashorn
07-18-2006, 10:44 PM
<DIV>Its rabble rouser, not babble rouser. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

RingleToo
07-18-2006, 11:41 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Its rabble rouser, not babble rouser. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yes, I know. I was going for humor. Apparently I missed it :smileyvery-happy: 

Ama
07-19-2006, 08:14 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vhalen wrote:<BR> I was wondering if you Norrathians forgot about "The Cavalier." Brushwuttle would roll over in his grave if we all forgot one of his most important creations to date. Babble around the taverns is that the statues went on to serve a greater purpose than the artist's original intent.  <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Well the only part wherebye they went on to serve a greater purpose maybe with Qeynos but that to me is by a stretch of the imagination.  I'm wondering if maybe they serve as ritual statues for some of the more known darker peoples.  Course Return of The Light does revolve around these statues with the very beginning being where you find the two toppled statues.  You also have to obtain a sword from the general orc that was stolen from the Knights of Truth if I remember correctly. </P> <P>Course I never did figure out who that old man worked for that lived near the overlord's outpost that helps you along that journey.  Another curious part is what was so special about that Greater Lightstone that made him kill you if you didn't know kill him? </P>

Tarkin-Wretch
07-19-2006, 10:39 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vhalen wrote:<BR> I was wondering if you Norrathians forgot about "The Cavalier." Brushwuttle would roll over in his grave if we all forgot one of his most important creations to date. Babble around the taverns is that the statues went on to serve a greater purpose than the artist's original intent.  <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>vague.

Cusashorn
07-19-2006, 11:07 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tarkin-Wretched wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vhalen wrote:<BR> I was wondering if you Norrathians forgot about "The Cavalier." Brushwuttle would roll over in his grave if we all forgot one of his most important creations to date. Babble around the taverns is that the statues went on to serve a greater purpose than the artist's original intent.  <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>vague.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>He wouldn't be Vhalen if he wasn't.

Tarkin-Wretch
07-20-2006, 08:45 PM
normally i wouldnt comment on how vague he's being but this one in particular was in left field.  typically theres something in there, a nugget but this one is so vague i immediately lost interest in the topic after reading it.

Ama
07-21-2006, 03:53 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vhalen wrote:<BR> I was wondering if you Norrathians forgot about "The Cavalier." Brushwuttle would roll over in his grave if we all forgot one of his most important creations to date. Babble around the taverns is that the statues went on to serve a greater purpose than the artist's original intent.  <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I'll try to interpret what vhalen is saying here course :smileyindifferent: .  I think what he is saying is we have gone through EQ2 looking at so much lore right now it would be hurtful to forget the most rampant of tales such as the history/lore of the Norrathian artists. </P> <P>We have had the lore of the gods returning, the lore of the droag preaching the ways of Darr, the lore behind the power of the dragons themselves and much more. </P> <P>I think as he states bar room talk/rumor is "the statues went onto serve a greater purpose than the artist's original intent."  This to me means that even though alot of these statues were broken and tossed away a few have remained.  These statues being used in different and possibly curious ways that we don't think about right now. </P> <P>The only thing I know is that there are two clickable and I guess undamaged statues in the commonlands possibly a couple in freeport if the Overlord kept them.  Then there are two statues that are deffinately located within the walls of the city of Qeynos.</P> <P>* Qeynos Castle: Within the great city of Qeynos stands the grandeur of Qeynos Castle. Flanking its main entrance are two ancient Cavalier statues commissioned during the end days of the Age of War. The king ordered them placed at the main gates as iconic guardians of valor watching over the city. People often refer to these statues in tandem as the Sentinels of Valor. *</P> <P>Still have to wonder though which "People" gave/refer to these statues as the Sentinels of Valor?</P>

Cusashorn
07-21-2006, 05:20 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tarkin-Wretched wrote:<BR> normally i wouldnt comment on how vague he's being but this one in particular was in left field.  typically theres something in there, a nugget but this one is so vague i immediately lost interest in the topic after reading it.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>He's usually vague for MINOR details such as this thread's topic of discussion. why right a 50 page story about a statue if it's just a minor detail that only happened to be brought up by sheer random curiosity and doesn't play a huge role in the grand scheme of things?

RaphaNissi
07-21-2006, 05:48 AM
How do you know it didn't play a major role in something?  His post seems to differ on that opinion.  Seems to me that we Norrathians HAVE forgotten....<div></div>

Cusashorn
07-21-2006, 05:58 AM
<DIV>Can't forget that which you never knew though. For most Norrathians in the world, even most of the elves, they would have never known these things ever existed.</DIV>

Alexandr
07-22-2006, 02:45 AM
Could some of the statues be the ones in Crypt of Betrayal? Those statues down there look great and valorous, and some depict knights, there are some that look like priests.<div></div>

Ama
07-24-2006, 05:37 AM
<P>A bit of interesting news here a little bird dropped me some info.  It is vague but provides something very unique to the story of the statue of the Cavalier. </P> <P>-Info-</P> <P>"The hidden purpose of these statues may be revealed soon. Such a thing would undoubtedly present new mysteries."</P> <P>Question is what hidden purpose do these status hide right now and what new mysteries would be revealed if they were revealed?</P>

Jaale
07-25-2006, 07:28 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Amana wrote:<BR> <DIV>*Copied word for word from the EQ2 main area from the lore section*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Long ago in the Age of Turmoil, the famed gnomish artist C.M. Brushwuttle was commissioned by the Knights of Truth and the Paladins of Marr in Freeport to create an iconic statue that could be used to represent the ideal of a valorous knight. To do this, Brushwuttle envisioned a gallant avatar, almost a god-like being that he called "The Cavalier." The face of the Cavalier would be partially shrouded by a cloak. This was done to represent the humility of the true knight as well as mask the knight's race - something that did not matter among the valorous. The Cavalier was heavily armored and held the hilt of a grand broadsword. The broadsword was actually patterned after the Sword of Faith, a sword once given to knight-lords of the Knights of Truth. The Cavalier was not aligned to any particular deity, but was intended to symbolize a figure of great faith. Thus the icon of the Cavalier was born.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Knights of Truth and the Priests of Marr were overwhelmed by the powerful visage of the Cavalier. It was erected in a prominent place within their quarter of Freeport, and Brushwuttle was promptly commissioned to sculpt four more. Soon visiting knights to the city gazed upon the statue and were just as moved by it. New orders came in to Brushwuttle from numerous orders of knights. As time went on, the Cavalier became the iconic sculpture for valor and knighthood. It can be found in nearly every corner of the world where great knights gather, and even in the ruins where they once existed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Commonlands: Just beyond the northern walls of Freeport lie the remains of what were once the original statues of the Cavalier. It was here that Lucan D'Lere, the Overlord of Freeport, ordered them dragged for a ritual desecration when he assumed complete control of the city. Rumor has it that one or more of the original statues were rescued from destruction and taken deep into the Commonlands where they now rest. Why and where have yet to be answered.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Qeynos Castle: Within the great city of Qeynos stands the grandeur of Qeynos Castle. Flanking its main entrance are two ancient Cavalier statues commissioned during the end days of the Age of War. The king ordered them placed at the main gates as iconic guardians of valor watching over the city. People often refer to these statues in tandem as the Sentinels of Valor.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>*end copy*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is an interesting tale but to me it is very very vague only detailing the story of how the statues came into being.  Their creation being the magnificent work of C.M. Brushwuttle when he was commisioned to create it. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have one question though that has been kinda tuggin on my mind after reading this and that question is about the sword "The Cavalier" holds.  It simple says that The Cavalier holds a sword known as the Sword of Faith given to the knight-lords of the Knights of Truth. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I must ask what is this Sword of Faith, who gave it to the knight-lords, why did they give it to the knight-lords of the knights of truth and what powers does the Sword of Faith hold within its mighty blade?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>So do we think that these are going to be part of a return of the gods quest? M.Marr specifically?</P> <P>do we know what they did in EQ1?</P> <P>Maybe they will offer insta Power and Health regen for anyone who gets with in the sphere of influence. That would be nice for solo'ers! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

Cusashorn
07-25-2006, 08:43 PM
<DIV>They didn't exist in EQlive.</DIV>

Mary the Prophetess
07-25-2006, 09:53 PM
<P>They seem to be associated with places of some reverence or importance to the The Paladins of Marr.  I seem to remember reading somewhere that the Knights of Truth, (or someone), transported one of the statues to the Ruins of Val 'Marr,  (even though that fortress was erected by the predecessors of the Knights of Truth, the Fists of Marr, long before the commisioning of the sculpture),  for some undisclosed reason, and there are several others scattered about the Commonlands.</P> <P>Maybe if we list all of the locations where they are found, a pattern will emerge.</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Mary the Prophetess on <span class=date_text>07-25-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:39 PM</span>