Derris and Gorynn Orcs?

[RoninSenshi]

<DIV>I do not think it was ever explained who Derris and Gorynn were, and why they have a following in Zek?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The gravestone of Derris reffers to Derris as a "Lesser" and that Sullon Zek "Shall strike down the children of the lesser". Who was Derris and Gorynn, in reffrence to the Orcs? More Zek demigods? Possible heros of Orc folklore who rose to power?</DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>There's no info.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Personally I'm interested in knowing who these were as well.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class=date_text>06-17-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:53 AM</span>

[SpiceBoi]

<DIV>Curiosity peaked here, too.  </DIV>

[troodon]

The Terrorgore in the Court of Truth quest line for Ring of Fate uses the phrase "Gorynn's Fist!" as some sort of expletive

[Vhalen]

<P>Gorynn and Derris are two examples of planar entities that are not commonly known. These planars were born and bred on the battlefields of the Plane of War. Here is a bit about them:</P> <P>Gorynn<BR>Plane of Existence: Plane of War<BR>A.K.A.: Champion of Zek<BR>Related Deities: N/A<BR>Worshipers: Gladiators<BR>Gorynn resides upon the Plane of War where he has retained the title of Champion of Zek. He once ruled as a great general in the Army of Zek, but has since moved on to become the resident champion of the Plane of War’s grand arena. He has bested and laid waste to thousands of would be champion gladiators. Rallos Zek admires his skill and ferocity in combat and has allowed Gorynn to build one secluded arena of majestic proportions upon each world that the god of war touches. Gorynn is a member of a tall, heavily muscular four armed humanoid race indigenous to the Plane of War.</P> <P>Derris Zek<BR>Plane of Existence: Plane of War<BR>A.K.A.: The Prince of Plunder, The Pillager<BR>Related Deities: N/A<BR>Worshipers: Orc Rogues, Bandits, Raiders<BR>Derris Zek is a general within the great Army of Zek. Known for pillaging and plundering through territory his army marches through, General Derris is feared by most. He is merciless and believes in striking terror into the hearts of the enemy by razing and pillaging any enemy territory he crosses.</P>

[StaAk]

<P>Gorynn sounds kinda like Goro from the Mortal Kombat series :smileyvery-happy:</P> <P> </P> <P>So would he be responsible for the building of THE arena out near Lake Rathetear? Majestic proportions? Check. Secluded? Check.</P>

[troodon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> StaAk wrote:<BR> <P>So would he be responsible for the building of THE arena out near Lake Rathetear? Majestic proportions? Check. Secluded? Check.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Sounds like it to me... hope we get to see it again :smileyhappy:

[kyth]

    The Plane of War always sparked my interest.  It was a shame they were never able to implement it into eq1.  Though they tried but the zone had horrible bugs so it didnt make it into PoP when it went live.  Alteast that is what i remember being told.<div></div>

[TheManInTheBox]

<font face="Comic Sans MS">Yeah, the arena in EverQuest 1 came to mind when I was reading Gorynn's description.</font><div></div>

[Nocturnal Aby]

<P>So, Vhalen, how would you descibe these planar entities?  Gorynn sort of sounds like he could possibly be a demi-god, similar to Sullon Zek, but Derris sounds more like some powerful being who, sort of like High Priest Ultor Szanvon, or Salczek the Fleshgrinder, or other powerful denizens of the planes of power.  So how would you classify these two?</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Hmm. I must admit, I always wondered if there was some diety/champion who represents the acts of looting war spoils and taking valuables on the battlefield.</DIV>

[RoninSenshi]

<DIV>One thing I notice right off the bat (other then Gorynn = Goro from Mortal Kombat), is that Gorynn is not a Zek, where as Derris is apart of the Zek family. </DIV>

[Jaale]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ShintouShinai wrote:<BR> <DIV>One thing I notice right off the bat (other then Gorynn = Goro from Mortal Kombat), is that Gorynn is not a Zek, where as Derris is apart of the Zek family. </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I would assume that this is because Gorynn may some day be defeated in combat, and so I don't think that Rallos Zek will take the chance that a "loser" will bear the Zek name, where as it is difficult to defeat looting and pillaging as this is normally done after the battle is already won, or used as a fear tactic to get your opponent to give up, the thought of having your friends and family spared that is quite a large driving force for defenders and proved to be a big factor in historic battles.</P> <P> </P> <P>Just my 2 pence <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[Dynn The Mo]

Gorynn vs. Sullon Zek would be an interesting fight to see.<div></div>

[Thax]

<DIV>Sullon would wipe the floor with him.   She's a badass like that. </DIV>

[vikingthug]

<DIV> <DIV><U>Hmm. I must admit, I always wondered if there was some diety/champion who represents the acts of looting war spoils and taking valuables on the battlefield.</U></DIV> <DIV><U></U> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>Get a different hobby.  When you find yourself wondering if there is a god of corpse looters, you need to get out more.  Valen should toss you boys a bone and give you something to do.</FONT></DIV></DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> vikingthug wrote:<BR> <DIV> <DIV><U>Hmm. I must admit, I always wondered if there was some diety/champion who represents the acts of looting war spoils and taking valuables on the battlefield.</U></DIV> <DIV><U></U> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>Get a different hobby.  When you find yourself wondering if there is a god of corpse looters, you need to get out more.  Valen should toss you boys a bone and give you something to do.</FONT></DIV></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>War Spoils has existed since the beginning of war itself in human history. Taking things is partially why many wars existed in the first place. Geeze. Why so snippy?

[vikingthug]

<DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>Lol, ease up C, just jerking your chain.  Though if anyone ever laid awake at night wondering if there was a EQ2 God of wartime grave robbers, it would be you.  Serriously though, we really need something new to talk about...Really, Im thinking Valen needs to finally get to letting out some of that drek he's been hiding from us.  All those ideas and no outlet is going to hurt his brain sooner or later.</FONT></DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> vikingthug wrote:<BR> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>Lol, ease up C, just jerking your chain.  <STRONG>Though if anyone ever laid awake at night wondering if there was a EQ2 God of wartime grave robbers, it would be you.</STRONG>  Serriously though, we really need something new to talk about...Really, Im thinking Valen needs to finally get to letting out some of that drek he's been hiding from us.  All those ideas and no outlet is going to hurt his brain sooner or later.</FONT></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I wouldn't go that far. It was just a... passing fancy, if you will. :p