Venekor and Trakenon?

[Miranni]

<div></div>So my guild kills Trak, and surprise! <a target="_blank" href="http://home.comcast.net/%7Eleniana/pics/EQ2_000180.jpg">Jaundiced Bone Breastplate</a> Why does Venekor have Trak's loots? Venekor is also a poison dragon... Are they related? Could Trak have possibly had his curse lifted? Or could he perhaps have stolen a young dragon's body? Did he sire children? The possibilities are endless! Any other ideas?<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Nothing has been stated about Trak'anon in EQ2. I don't believe he's even been mentioned anywhere yet.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for the loots...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>well.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Explain why the Dwarven Work Boots are found in Antonica, or why the Polished Granite Tomahawk is given to you by a giant instead of found off a gnoll?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Or why the Sceptre of Destruction, originally found off the warders in Sleepers Tomb untill some idiot guild selfishly killed them all and woke Kerafyrm up, is now found in Deathtoll in the Bonemire?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My point is, I don't think that the loot off a monster necissarily has anything to do with it's history, but nothing has been revealed yet about Venekor or Trak.</DIV>

[Miranni]

Well we know that he's a young dragon with an "mysterious" past who keeps turning up in the oddest places....I don't think it's a coicidence that both Trak and Vene are poison dragons. Those BPs were Trak's signature. Dwarven work boots are in Antonica because Rucksif's relative is there. Since Kerafyrm was the sleeper, and since Deathtoll is intricately connected to Kerafyrm it makes a sort of sense to have one of the weapons dropped by his warders to be found there. The PGT, well I don't know, maybe the giant found it in his shoe after squashing a gnoll or something.<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Actually it doesn't make sense at all that a warder's weapon would show up in Deathtoll since Kerafyrm despised what they were. the warders were the enemies of Kerafyrm.</DIV>

[IrishWonder]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Actually it doesn't make sense at all that a warder's weapon would show up in Deathtoll since Kerafyrm despised what they were. the warders were the enemies of Kerafyrm.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>And Lucan was the enemy of the original owners of Soulfire... but he doesn't have a problem waving that thing around :smileywink:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In any case, the Halls of Seeing version of Venekor drops all kinds of loot that was very big (and class defining/specific) in EQ1... not all of which dropped off of Trakanon. The fact that the Jaundiced Bone Breastplate dropped off Trak is just coincidental, in my opinion.</DIV>

[Miranni]

<div></div>And why wouldn't Kerafyrm want to take trophies from those he most hated?What else drops in Halls of Seeing that was class defining? I've seen a <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=130895" target="_blank">Tolan's Darkwood BP</a> floating around too... Did it also drop from Venekor? <a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=4503" target="_blank">Trak and his loots</a>Also, our good friend <a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=4572" target="_blank">Jumpalot</a> makes an appearance in the zone.... Curiouser and Curiouser....Edit: Oh look, another Vene/Trak loot so far discovered:<a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=130936" target=_blank><span class="itemTitle">Blood Ember Breastplate</span></a>Keep in mind the zone's only been open 4 weeks or so, who knows what else is on his loot table. Personally, if a Mylo's drops, I'm all over that shiznit. <div></div><p>Message Edited by Leniana on <span class=date_text>05-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:02 AM</span>

[Moorgard]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My point is, I don't think that the loot off a monster necissarily has anything to do with it's history, but nothing has been revealed yet about Venekor or Trak.<BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>If you look at the big picture of what's going on in Halls of the Seeing, you can understand a bit more about Venekor's motivations. The place is full of things he has stolen from other dragons. He definitely doesn't others of his kind to realize this, and he is so afraid of this news getting out that he will kill anyone who enters his lair. You'll notice that he has golems and statues in his service, automatons that lack the ability or the desire to reveal his secrets.</P> <P>And yes, Venekor's kleptomania extends even to Trakanon--a dragon toward whom he harbors no small degree of resentment.</P> <P>The tale of Venekor's lineage is one that should be told, though I'm loathe to just blurt it out here. We'll see if we can't work it into the world in a more interesting way.</P>

[Ama]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Moorgard wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My point is, I don't think that the loot off a monster necissarily has anything to do with it's history, but nothing has been revealed yet about Venekor or Trak.<BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>If you look at the big picture of what's going on in Halls of the Seeing, you can understand a bit more about Venekor's motivations. The place is full of things he has stolen from other dragons. He definitely doesn't others of his kind to realize this, and he is so afraid of this news getting out that he will kill anyone who enters his lair. You'll notice that he has golems and statues in his service, automatons that lack the ability or the desire to reveal his secrets.</P> <P>And yes, Venekor's kleptomania extends even to Trakanon--a dragon toward whom he harbors no small degree of resentment.</P> <P>The tale of Venekor's lineage is one that should be told, though I'm loathe to just blurt it out here. We'll see if we can't work it into the world in a more interesting way.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>/grin</P> <P>Well Moorguard I already know part of the secret behind Venekor thx to a part played by the Fear Knight in SoS.  It was "the battle of modern adventurers that drove venekor away from Cazic-Thule but upon his retreat we Fear Knights gathered the scattered leaf lets which led us here." *Paraphrasing a bit but thats the gist I got from it*</P> <P>Seems to me Venekor terrorized the small area of Cazic-Thule till we adventurers decided to step in causing Venekor to Retreat to his home in the Over realm.  Hopefully the Trading Information quest will help to shed some light on this little detail for me. :smileywink:<BR></P>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Moorgard wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My point is, I don't think that the loot off a monster necissarily has anything to do with it's history, but nothing has been revealed yet about Venekor or Trak.<BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>If you look at the big picture of what's going on in Halls of the Seeing, you can understand a bit more about Venekor's motivations. The place is full of things he has stolen from other dragons. He definitely doesn't others of his kind to realize this, and he is so afraid of this news getting out that he will kill anyone who enters his lair. You'll notice that he has golems and statues in his service, automatons that lack the ability or the desire to reveal his secrets.</P> <P>And yes, Venekor's kleptomania extends even to Trakanon--a dragon toward whom he harbors no small degree of resentment.</P> <P>The tale of Venekor's lineage is one that should be told, though I'm loathe to just blurt it out here. We'll see if we can't work it into the world in a more interesting way.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>*see's Vhalen put down the sniper rifle aimed at Moorgard's head*</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>>_></P> <P> </P> <P><_<</P> <P> </P> <P>*Keeps on walking*</P>

[The-Fourm-Pirate]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Actually it doesn't make sense at all that a warder's weapon would show up in Deathtoll since Kerafyrm despised what they were. the warders were the enemies of Kerafyrm.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Players kill warder and take his sceptre, Kerafyrm eats said players and then has indigestion and hacks up a few bones and uber scepters. That's my theory anyways.

[psubull]

Tolapumj = Jmupalot.  I said it when Kunark came out, i'll say it now.  GG devs, <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Homeskillet]

    Correct me if I am wrong, but Venekor once served Trakanon.<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Homeskillet wrote:<BR>    Correct me if I am wrong, but Venekor once served Trakanon.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I don't know where you may have heard that, but I find that plausible. I think I can see Venekor being a klepto because he served under another dragon in the past and didn't quite get the respect he deserved or something like that.

[Xxile]

<P>WTFs up with poison dragons and lizard men and their homes?</P> <P>Trak and the iksar and their city seb</P> <P>Ven and the Tae Ew and their temple of cazic</P>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Many reptiles are venemous.. I don't know.</DIV>

[Zh]

Although with Trakanon and the Iksar, didn't he assail the former capital of Sebilis and take it over leaving it iksar-less? While Venekor doesn't seem to mind the lizardmen.(if that's wrong sorry, i'm too lazy and depressed at the failing of my desktop pc's cpu fan dying to double check myself)<div></div>

[troodon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zhek wrote:<BR>Although with Trakanon and the Iksar, didn't he assail the former capital of Sebilis and take it over leaving it iksar-less? While Venekor doesn't seem to mind the lizardmen.<BR><BR>(if that's wrong sorry, i'm too lazy and depressed at the failing of my desktop pc's cpu fan dying to double check myself)<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>That's right. Trakanon and the Iksar didn't get along, to put it mildly</P>