Kelethin, kelethin and more kelethin... WHAT ABOUT FELWITHE?!?!

[hurleyb]

<DIV><STRONG>Due to this new expansion all you ever hear about is kelethin and Ak'anon... This is all fine and dandy but i dont see any talk of what is happening or what has happened to the great high elf city of felwithe.. did it get destroyed by the shattering or what? someone plz fill me in on what will happen to this city in the new expansion! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></STRONG></DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>We'll let you know when we find out.</DIV>

[Pahya]

<DIV>*atempts to channel the devs*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>*fails*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Innoruuk take me if I have any idea. I imagine we'll find out when the exspansion comes out.</DIV>

[teddyboy4]

I too noticed the lack of any mention of majestic Felwithe, I certainly find it curious if nothing else. Indeed this could possibly bode ill for the glorious home of the High Elves. Especially seeing as there is clear mention of two of the other major cities on the continent, those being Ak'Anon and Kelethin of course. This brings to mind another good question though, why havn't we heard any mention of Kaladim either???In my mind, there are only two possibilites...SOE is purposely not mentioning Felwithe (or Kaladim for that matter) in hopes of releasing a trickle of information in bite size bits in hopes of keeping us guessing and holding our interest until this Winter when we can step on the wooded shores of Faydwer again.-OR-They havn't mentioned Felwithe (or Kaladim) b/c the cities have been totally and utterly destroyed, or otherwise lost to us. While it might be neat to explore the ruins of both cities and cleanse them of whatever foulness inhabits them, I would MUCH rather see them whole and standing. Aged a bit, maybe even falling into slight disrepair, but hopefully they at least still stand and are inhabited by the races that called them home. Felwithe was home to my first, and longest played, EQ toon and I would be sorely upset to see that it has fallen. I have visions (or maybe dilusions) of striding proudly through the gates of Felwithe again, a long wayward High Elf finally returining to the home he has missed so much in the last few hundred years. We can only hope....<p>Message Edited by teddyboy420 on <span class=date_text>05-24-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:34 PM</span>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> teddyboy420 wrote:<BR>I too noticed the lack of any mention of majestic Felwithe, I certainly find it curious if nothing else. Indeed this could possibly bode ill for the glorious home of the High Elves. Especially seeing as there is clear mention of two of the other major cities on the continent, those being Ak'Anon and Kelethin of course. This brings to mind another good question though, why havn't we heard any mention of Kaladim either???<BR><BR>In my mind, there are only two possibilites...<BR><BR><STRONG>SOE is purposely not mentioning Felwithe (or Kaladim for tha matter) in hopes of releasing a trickle of information in bite size bits in hopes of keeping us guessing and holding out interest until this Winter when we can step on the wooded shores of Faydwer again.<BR></STRONG><BR>-OR-<BR><BR>They havn't mentioned Felwithe (or Kaladim) b/c the cities have been totally and utterly destroyed, or otherwise lost to us. While it might be neat to explore the ruins of both cities and cleanse them of whatever foulness inhabits them, I would MUCH rather see them whole and standing. Aged a bit, maybe even falling into slight disrepair, but hopefully they at least still stand and are inhabited by the races that called them home. <BR><BR>Felwithe was home to my first, and longest played, EQ toon and I would be sorely upset to see that it has fallen. I have visions (or maybe dilusions) of striding proudly through the gates of Felwithe again, a long wayward High Elf finally returining to the home he has missed so much in the last few hundred years. <BR><BR>We can only hope....<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>The first choice.</P> <P> </P> <P>I think they said that Feydwere *MOSTLY* escaped the Shattering, but Butcherblock still got hit hard.<BR></P>

[gimpmas]

I to miss my home. I pray to Tunare that it still stands and is full of my kin.

[Tanatz]

Yea, I don't think the lack of mentioning implies that we'll never hear of or see it again, if fact I think it implies the opposite.And, though my main in EQ1 was a Dark Elf, I absolutely loved Felwithe and Kelethin.<div></div>

[RoninSenshi]

<P>Felwithe is gone. While Faydewer as a whole escaped the shattering, it did not escape the War of the Fay.</P> <P>Kelethin was scarred, having some of the trees supporting the city chopped down, but Felwithe was completly and totally sacked. The King was killed (Theris Thex). If the highelven king died in that battle, the city had to have taken alot of damage.</P> <P>Overall, the Darkelves main target was the highelves. They left the Woodelves and Kelethin to the Orcs, and admist that distraction they took Felwithe. I seriously doubt the city will be livable.  It may even be in a worse state then Neriak/Fallen Gate. (At least Shintou hopes so). </P> <P>Also, you have to remember who was left back in the Faydark. Not the Elves, not the Highelves, the Fay creatures remained in the forest (Ok, I think it did say that some woodelves remained behind, but I'm pretty sure all of the Highelves left for Qeynos).</P> <P>Now, with no highelves in the Faydark after the War of the Fay was over, guess who didn't rebuild their city. Kelethin was rebuilt because of the Fay creatures. They like the outdoors, a tree city is perfect for them. A City of marble is not. Also, which city is hardest to rebuild, Kelethin which is just an overgrown treehouse I used to play in as a kid, or Felwithe, the city of complex design and Marble, carved out of the mountainside.</P> <P>Felwithe is gone. If you are lucky, it will be a duengon filled with the undead. As for Kaladim.. who knows. They only helped with defending the Faydark from the elves.. I didn't read anything about Kaladim even being attacked, but that is a possibility.</P> <P>ALSO, this raises a question about Kaladim:</P> <P>IF the Butcherblock mountains, like the rest of Faydwer, was spared from the rendering/shattering, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] did they leave? If their home was unhurt by war, why would they depart? Could it be that they were so caught up in helping Qeynos in the Battle of Defiance that they forgot after the battle was done to go home, or was the sea too unpassable? Or Could Mayong Mistmorre and his vampire minions have a part in driving them away?</P> <P>The elves left because of the War of the Fay.</P> <P>The Gnomes left because their Clockworks showed them who really was boss.</P> <P>The Dwarves left because ? I don't know, maybe they just like following pretty elves.</P> <P> </P>

[gimpmas]

<DIV>I thought the darkelfs never made it into Felwith and not all the highelfs left some had to much pride to go. its also not like this is the first time the highelfs have lost there king.</DIV>

[Nocturnal Aby]

<P>Woah, obviously Shin has some pent up hostility towards the High Elves, or he believes very much in the power of the Dark Elves.</P> <P>Some strategical analysis worth mentioning:  There was only one way into Kelethin, and that was a tunnel going under a mountain.  The city itself, therefore, was amazingly defendable, not only was it defendable, but it had its own water source, who knows how long they could have stayed under seige.</P> <P>We really have no clue what happened to Kaladim or Felwithe, since NOTHING has been mentioned, including if it had been conquered by the dark elves.  When I read that they had successfully killed King Tearis Thex, I took it to mean that he had fallen in battle.  Just as Naythox traveled to Faydwer with his troops to wage battle, I would not be at all surprised if King Tearis also fought along side his troops, as was common in a bygone era (perhaps if the leaders of countries still waged war from the trenches instead of thousands of miles away, there might be a few less wars, but that's a different topic altogether).  Also, I have heard no tale in Qeynos of the dispersion of the Koada'Dal because of the destruction of their home city.  HAD they come to Qeynos for that reason, you would think that they would mention such things.  Actually, I was sort of under the impression that a large majority of Qeynos' population came from adventurers of all races, cultures, and creeds who sought refuge during the Age of Cataclysm, or perhaps asylum while the Rallosians were on their compeigns.  We know that the dwarf mentioned in the Tome of Destiny, when talking about the Rending, was in Qeynos seeking refuge during the Rendings, before this, he had made the Karanas his home.  Similarly, there were several dwarf families living in Qeynos during the Age of Turmoil.  I seem to recall several elves in and around Surefall and Jaggedpine, as well.  Who says that those who helped to reconstruct the two cities of Freeport and Qeynos were sent directly from their home cities?  In fact, because of in passability of the seas, and the lack of teleportation, adventurers all over Antonica would have been forced into the remaining cities, planning, of course, to only stay there until passage home was available.</P> <P>I think that Felwithe, while possibly suffering some damage from the Rending and the Shattering, could very possibly still exist in some fashion, perhaps still under construction.  Could it have been laid waste by the Teir'Dal?  Sure, anything is possible.  But until specific information is released regarding anything on Faydwer, we really have no clue what the state of things are.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Renita_Serafim]

I don't think that Felwithe will be anything more than a dungeon zone when Faydwer goes live. Simply because if it were an actual city zone, it would have been mentioned in the list of features in the expansion pack. Which it isn't. It's a shame, because if Felwithe were intact, it would get all of the stuck up High Elves from Castleview out of Qeynos where people don't have to listen to their xenophobia anymore.

[gimpmas]

in the Highelf lore book it say that Tunare came to a bunch of Highelfs in there dreams and told them to take refuge in the city of men(I think it was in the lore book I remimber reading it ingame somewhere)

[Nocturnal Aby]

<P>I suppose I should take my own advice, and research before I open my mouth <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>King Tearis Thex WAS killed in Felwithe, but he was killed by a Teir'Dal assassin, it seems.</P> <P>Although obviously not without its bias, there is no mention that they were successful in their campeign to destroy Felwithe, and they do take credit for routing the Teir'Dal.</P> <P>It seems the Koda'Dal were sent to Qeynos as aid during the war with the Rallosians, and many stayed to help rebuild, and then as the Rending began, were forced to stay.  It was not until after the Battle of Deffiance that the Koada'Dal received the whispers of Quellious to stay in the cities of men.  Who knows, maybe so that they wouldn't be traveling the seas when the Rending began.  Whatever the reason, many stayed, helping with the repairs, and thus, were stranded as the Rending began.</P>

[hurleyb]

<P><STRONG>i agree shintou does have some hostility towards high elves... </STRONG></P> <P><STRONG></STRONG> </P> <P><STRONG>honestly i dont think during the age of cataclysms a dark elf army could work their way over to faydwer and destory felwithe... even if they got there someone would have noticed and if any dwarves, gnomes, or woodelves were still around they would aid in the battle... if 2 gaurds in eq1 could handle crushbone orcs i think they'd have plenty of backup troops to send to felwithe. An assasin killing their king is much more likely, and i think if felwithe is still around i hope it will at least be a zone like the hidden refuge in TT or something. I think a large portion of highelves prolly are still around in felwithe trying to rebuild while the others were off to help kill orcs but due to the closeness of kelethin and felwithe the surrounding area will prolly be a newbie zone like antonica so maybe in the future felwithe could also become a starting city... on the other hand it would be impossible for halas or rivervale to ever become good starting cities <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> it would be nice to see though! maybe once all of norrath is back to its former self we will see some order come into the world and rivervale, halas, neriak, that one erudite city, and sebillis will come back and be starting cities!! its a nice thought but then eq2 would pretty much be the same as eq!</STRONG></P> <P><STRONG>-Riruk Lightningblade</STRONG></P> <P><STRONG>58 guardian of nektulos</STRONG></P>

[Vhalen]

<DIV>There will come a time when you shall know all the movements of war that took place on Faydwer. For now, I will tell you a small bit about the grand city of Felwithe and its darker days.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>... A massive force of Neriak dragoons sieged the city of Felwithe. For many weeks the siege held, but the evil horde was too overwhelming and the gates of Felwithe were soon forced wide. In a bloody battle the dragoons defeated the ravaged Koada'Dal defenders and claimed the city of Felwithe as their own. In the wake of the battle, in a final skirmish in the palace, King Tearis Thex of the Koada'Dal fell to the daggers of Neriak. The dark days of Teir'Dal occupation began as the War of the Fay raged on in other regions of Faydwer. ...</DIV>

[Andu]

<blockquote><hr>Vhalen wrote:<div>There will come a time when you shall know all the movements of war that took place on Faydwer. For now, I will tell you a small bit about the grand city of Felwithe and its darker days.</div> <div> </div> <div>... A massive force of Neriak dragoons sieged the city of Felwithe. For many weeks the siege held, but the evil horde was too overwhelming and the gates of Felwithe were soon forced wide. In a bloody battle the dragoons defeated the ravaged Koada'Dal defenders and claimed the city of Felwithe as their own. In the wake of the battle, in a final skirmish in the palace, King Tearis Thex of the Koada'Dal fell to the daggers of Neriak. The dark days of Teir'Dal occupation began as the War of the Fay raged on in other regions of Faydwer. ...</div><hr></blockquote>Well that's got me all riled up <span>:smileymad:</span> Shame I have to wait till november to do something about it <span><span>:smileysad:</span></span><div></div>

[Tipa]

Sorry to hear Felwithe got Rivervaled. I cried when I saw what had been done to my home.- Lifting a mug of Jumjum to the brave Sheriffs standing alone against the night.<div></div>

[WarShe]

Nice, as soon as the expansion comes out ill start calling Felwithe, New Neriak !!! ... Muhahaha :smileyhappy:

[Caethre]

OOC.<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vhalen wrote:<BR> <DIV>There will come a time when you shall know all the movements of war that took place on Faydwer. For now, I will tell you a small bit about the grand city of Felwithe and its darker days.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>... A massive force of Neriak dragoons sieged the city of Felwithe. For many weeks the siege held, but the evil horde was too overwhelming and the gates of Felwithe were soon forced wide. In a bloody battle the dragoons defeated the ravaged Koada'Dal defenders and claimed the city of Felwithe as their own. In the wake of the battle, in a final skirmish in the palace, King Tearis Thex of the Koada'Dal fell to the daggers of Neriak. The dark days of Teir'Dal occupation began as the War of the Fay raged on in other regions of Faydwer. ...</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>It not at all what we had previously been lead to believe, I had read that a large mass of the Koada`Dal folk had only reluctantly headed to Qeynos to join the Bayle banner, due to being requested to do so by the Avatar of Tunare, to whom all practically all Koada`Dal remained faithful. Due to lifespan, many of those same migrating Koada`Dal still live. Some backstories will now need to be modified, annoyingly. =p</P> <P>And as for character reaction to this...  Oh my. Oh my. That so is distressing. Even upsetting ...</P> <P>And yet, Qeynos is not home, it never will be. It even allows vile Teir`Dal as citizens, something no true Koada`Dal would ever accept.</P> <P>This cannot, nay, will not, be the end of the matter!</P> <P> </P>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Caethre wrote:<BR> OOC.<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vhalen wrote:<BR> <DIV>There will come a time when you shall know all the movements of war that took place on Faydwer. For now, I will tell you a small bit about the grand city of Felwithe and its darker days.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>... A massive force of Neriak dragoons sieged the city of Felwithe. For many weeks the siege held, but the evil horde was too overwhelming and the gates of Felwithe were soon forced wide. In a bloody battle the dragoons defeated the ravaged Koada'Dal defenders and claimed the city of Felwithe as their own. In the wake of the battle, in a final skirmish in the palace, King Tearis Thex of the Koada'Dal fell to the daggers of Neriak. The dark days of Teir'Dal occupation began as the War of the Fay raged on in other regions of Faydwer. ...</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>It not at all what we had previously been lead to believe, I had read that a large mass of the Koada`Dal folk had only reluctantly headed to Qeynos to join the Bayle banner, due to being requested to do so by the Avatar of Tunare, to whom all practically all Koada`Dal remained faithful. Due to lifespan, many of those same migrating Koada`Dal still live. Some backstories will now need to be modified, annoyingly. =p</P> <P>And as for character reaction to this...  Oh my. Oh my. That so is distressing. Even upsetting ...</P> <P>And yet, Qeynos is not home, it never will be. It even allows vile Teir`Dal as citizens, something no true Koada`Dal would ever accept.</P> <P>This cannot, nay, will not, be the end of the matter!</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Hmm it's quite possible that the High Elves who left to join Qeynos were civilians under the order of King Thex for thier own protection during the war.</P> <P>Or it may have even happened before the war of the Fey. I remember the wood elves talking about it, but I can't recall off the top of my head any high elves in castleview who talk about it.</P>

[Nainitsuj]

Please let the Teir'dal who would still be loyal to their previous king in to the new home of old stink town.  At the very least, a series of quests.  And on top of that, please make all pale elves KoS.

[Glaed]

<P>When I first entered the Willow Wood as a young wood elf, this is one of my first memories, it was a quest to seek out a monument/graveyard to pay tribute and remember the lives of those lost.  There was a wood elf female there who had a story to tell of the War of the Fay and her sister's death.  She mentions at the end of her story that Kelethin and Felwithe were restored, was she misinformed?  Something I am not aware of happen after that event?  Or do I just need to pay more attention to the lore books in the game? lol</P> <P> </P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “So kind, yet so naïve to the horrors of the past, tragedies to be repeated no doubt.”</P> <P>You say, “The cataclysms have passed.”</P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “I do not speak of trembling plains and torrential seas, I speak of the bane of elfkind, the eternal struggle between light and dark… between above and below.”</P> <P>You say, “You speak of the dark elves?”</P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “Yes, the elves of below… the Teir’Dal.<SPAN>  </SPAN>Their hatred for the elves of the sun is a plague upon all of Norrath.<SPAN>  </SPAN>Many have died in defense of elfkind, and I believe the bloodshed is far from over.<SPAN>  </SPAN>It is an eternal war that burdens my heart.”</P> <P>You say, “Then do not fight anymore.”</P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “I wish it were that easy, but I am Feir’Dal, a wood elf, and I am sworn to defend the Laws of Tunare and her children till my final breath passes my lips.<SPAN>  </SPAN>That is a day I look forward to with great rejoice.”</P> <P>You say, “Who is Tunare?”</P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “Tunare is the Mother of All, the goddess of the forest realms, the one who gave life to all who dwell within, including elfkind.<SPAN>  </SPAN>She is growth and preservation.<SPAN>  </SPAN>We elves of the sun are her soldiers and wards.<SPAN>  </SPAN>We live to serve her laws and we die to preserve her children, flora and fauna.”</P> <P>You say, “You would die for this goddess?”</P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “In my days, I have seen a multitude of my fellow treefolke give their lives in defense of Tunare’s laws.<SPAN>  </SPAN>Many were my family.<SPAN>  </SPAN>I am haunted with the visions of battles of yore.<SPAN>  </SPAN>I recall my beloved sister slipping from life while I wept with her in my embrace.”</P> <P>You say, “When did she die?”</P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “She drifted from this realm more then four-hundred-years ago in the Age of Turmoil.<SPAN>  </SPAN>It was the great War of the Fay, the war of the elves.<SPAN>  </SPAN>The elf empire of below and their allies challenged the combined nations of elfkind.<SPAN>  </SPAN>Armies of Teir’Dal, orc, troll and others crept towards the Faydark hoping to extinguish the elves of the sun.”</P> <P>You say, “What is the Faydark?”</P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “The Faydark was one of the last of the great forests of Norrath.<SPAN>  </SPAN>It rested upon a continent far, far from here, taking up most of the land with its billowing evergreen canopy.<SPAN>  </SPAN>It’s grandeur was unmatched.<SPAN>  </SPAN>It’s within this sprawling majesty that we Feir’Dal built our great city in the last of the towering Elddar Trees, the city called Kelethin.”</P> <P>You say, “You fought for this forest?”</P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “I was but an adolescent, barely able to string a bow, yet I fought.<SPAN>  </SPAN>My sister was in her prime, and she was a highly skilled scout, an elite soldier of the Scouts of Tunare.<SPAN>  </SPAN>But even her skill could not prepare her of the tree city of Kelethin for the onslaught from the nother coasts and the orc hordes from Crushbone.”</P> <P>You say, “How did it begin?”</P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “It happened quickly.<SPAN>  </SPAN>The forest empire of my people was greatly protected.<SPAN>  </SPAN>No branch was left without a lookout, the tall masts and far reaching ballistae of the Koada’Dal wave jumpers patrolled the coasts, but still, we couldn’t prepare for the arrival.”</P> <P>You say, “Where did they come from?”</P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “From the depths of the burning wastelands of Crushbone, came the orc hordes.<SPAN>  </SPAN>As we directed our efforts at repelling this force, an armada of war galleys of Neriak breached the coastal mists.<SPAN>  </SPAN>Some say they arrived via a titanic transport ark built by the dark elves deep in the uncharted seas of the Ocean of Tears.<SPAN>  </SPAN>Yet, still, they struck from an unexpected front…”</P> <P>You say, “Where else did they come from?”</P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “Near the heart of the Faydark, the most dangerous of the evil hordes arrived in a portal opened between the underworld and our forest, a portal bound by the ancient teleport spires.<SPAN>  </SPAN>Wave after wave of Teir’Dal dragoon marched from this portal, a juggernaut marching towards the Koada’Dal city in the clouded mountains, Felwithe.”</P> <P>You say, “What about Kelethin?”</P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “The tree city was no target of the dragoons, the orcs of Crushbone kept us under siege, setting much of the Faydark on fire!<SPAN>  </SPAN>Within the raging inferno, the dragoons marched to seize Felwithe.<SPAN>  </SPAN>It is there that the legendary King Tearis’Thex fell to the dark blade.”</P> <P>You say, “Then you lost the war?”</P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “Defeat seemed certain, but as we fought the futile battles on many fronts, the horns of war were heard along the borders of the Faydark!<SPAN>  </SPAN>The brigades of the dwarven empire Kaladim marched in from the western mountains, and from the east came the gnomes of Ak’Anon with their ticking and puffing clockwork army.<SPAN>  </SPAN>The elves of the sun would triumph this day.”</P> <P>You say, “What happened to the evil horde?”</P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “Greatly outnumbered, the dark hordes repelled.<SPAN>  </SPAN>They retreated to the shadowed realms from whence they came.<SPAN>  </SPAN>Some unfortunate ones fled to the Loping Plains seeking a safe haven on the moors of Mistmoore, never to be heard from again.”</P> <P>You say, “So the war was not long?”</P> <P>Thayare Faystrider says, “Don’t let my short tale confuse you.<SPAN>  </SPAN>This war raged on for more than a few seasons.<SPAN>  </SPAN>Blood stained the forest floor, green turned to ash.<SPAN>  </SPAN>It was in the final defense of Kelethin that my sister sustained a mortal blow, dying within my arms, her last breath gracing my tear-soaked face.”</P> <P>You say, “How did you end up here?”<BR><BR><SPAN>Thayare Faystrider says, “Kelethin and Felwithe were restored under the guidance of the princess Queen, Lenya Thex, but the scars remained, both on the land and within my memory.<SPAN>  </SPAN>I departed the Faydark in search of a new life that would bury my visions of war, but as I learned, war is eternal, and it is far reaching.<SPAN>  </SPAN>Since my days in the Faydark, I have traversed much more bloodshed.<SPAN>  </SPAN>It is inescapable, yet I live on to defend the Laws of Tunare and to honor those that have fallen, such as my beloved sister Geeda.”</SPAN></P>

[Iagan the Swart]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>ShintouShinai wrote:<div></div> <p>Felwithe is gone. While Faydewer as a whole escaped the shattering, it did not escape the War of the Fay.</p> <p>Kelethin was scarred, having some of the trees supporting the city chopped down, but Felwithe was completly and totally sacked. The King was killed (Theris Thex). If the highelven king died in that battle, the city had to have taken alot of damage.</p> <p>Overall, the Darkelves main target was the highelves. They left the Woodelves and Kelethin to the Orcs, and admist that distraction they took Felwithe. I seriously doubt the city will be livable.  It may even be in a worse state then Neriak/Fallen Gate. (At least Shintou hopes so). </p> <p>Also, you have to remember who was left back in the Faydark. Not the Elves, not the Highelves, the Fay creatures remained in the forest (Ok, I think it did say that some woodelves remained behind, but I'm pretty sure all of the Highelves left for Qeynos).</p> <p>Now, with no highelves in the Faydark after the War of the Fay was over, guess who didn't rebuild their city. Kelethin was rebuilt because of the Fay creatures. They like the outdoors, a tree city is perfect for them. A City of marble is not. Also, which city is hardest to rebuild, Kelethin which is just an overgrown treehouse I used to play in as a kid, or Felwithe, the city of complex design and Marble, carved out of the mountainside.</p> <p>Felwithe is gone. If you are lucky, it will be a duengon filled with the undead. As for Kaladim.. who knows. They only helped with defending the Faydark from the elves.. I didn't read anything about Kaladim even being attacked, but that is a possibility.</p> <p>ALSO, this raises a question about Kaladim:</p> <p>IF the Butcherblock mountains, like the rest of Faydwer, was spared from the rendering/shattering, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] did they leave? If their home was unhurt by war, why would they depart? Could it be that they were so caught up in helping Qeynos in the Battle of Defiance that they forgot after the battle was done to go home, or was the sea too unpassable? Or Could Mayong Mistmorre and his vampire minions have a part in driving them away?</p> <p>The elves left because of the War of the Fay.</p> <p>The Gnomes left because their Clockworks showed them who really was boss.</p> <p>The Dwarves left because ? I don't know, maybe they just like following pretty elves.</p> <hr></blockquote>I don't think you are entirely correct.  My Koada Dal wizard is cureently reading about his people's history.  In the book it states that the high elves and their allies managed to defeat the dark elves in the battle for Felwithe.  However, they did leave their city because Quellious (Sp?) contacted many of them directly and informed them that they should take refuge in the cities of man.  After the rending the oceans would be impassible. So the elves that left could not return.  In any case, we don't know what happened to Felwithe.  We don't kow if all elves received the warning, or if all who did took heed of it.  We certainly don't know what has happened in the 500+ years since the rending.  Felwithe may still stand, or it may lie in ruins underwater just like Halas. Ok well now that I have read Vhalen's post I have to wonder why the "History of the Koada Dal" and the wood elf in the Willow Wood are wrong.  Have the elves in Qeynos just deluded themselves?<div></div><p>Message Edited by Iagan the Swarthy on <span class=date_text>05-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:59 PM</span>

[Tarkin-Wretch]

<DIV>Thank you Vhalen for clearing that up.  Its as I hoped it would be.  With Faydwer being spared, for the most part, from the rending, does that mean the mighty Teir'Dal still occupy New Neriak?  Its rumored that if Queen Cristanos ever surfaces with her horde from Neriak that she will not be friendly to anyone, even dark elves since they would have been corrupted by the lesser races with being out of her influence.  Would the same hold true for King Naythox?  If he survived on Faydwer, would he and his troops hold to past grudges and philosophies?  Being isolated so long from the rest of the world...well Antonica anyways and more importantly Neriak, would he regard other dark elves from Freeport suspiciously?  It would be nice to see New Neriak prospering.  I would love to see another city in which players can call home but I wont get my hopes up on that one.  I would settle for some quests and non aggro culture.  Maybe even force players to raise faction to enter New Neriak.  I love the sound of that...New Neriak...don't you? :smileyvery-happy:</DIV>

[Nocturnal Aby]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Glaed wrote:<BR> <P><BR><SPAN>Thayare Faystrider says, “<STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00>Kelethin and Felwithe were restored under the guidance of the princess Queen, Lenya Thex</FONT></STRONG>, but the scars remained, both on the land and within my memory.<SPAN>  </SPAN>I departed the Faydark in search of a new life that would bury my visions of war, but as I learned, war is eternal, and it is far reaching.<SPAN>.</SPAN>.”</SPAN></P> <P><BR></P> <HR> <P></P> <P>Wonderful find, Glaed, I remember going through that dialogue, but had forgotten that tidbit!</P></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Message Edited by Nocturnal Abyss on <span class=date_text>05-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:53 PM</span>

[Sartredes]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nocturnal Abyss wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Glaed wrote:<BR> <P><BR><SPAN>Thayare Faystrider says, “<STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00>Kelethin and Felwithe were restored under the guidance of the princess Queen, Lenya Thex</FONT></STRONG>, but the scars remained, both on the land and within my memory.<SPAN>  </SPAN>I departed the Faydark in search of a new life that would bury my visions of war, but as I learned, war is eternal, and it is far reaching.<SPAN>.</SPAN>.”</SPAN></P> <P><BR></P> <HR> <P></P> <P>Wonderful find, Glaed, I remember going through that dialogue, but had forgotten that tidbit!</P></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Message Edited by Nocturnal Abyss on <SPAN class=date_text>05-31-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:53 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I knew I read somewhere about Felwithe and the war, but couldn't remember where.  Thanks for reaffirming my sanity (In this regard, at least :smileywink: )<BR>

[Tarkin-Wretch]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Glaed wrote:<BR> <P>When I first entered the Willow Wood as a young wood elf, this is one of my first memories, it was a quest to seek out a monument/graveyard to pay tribute and remember the lives of those lost.  There was a wood elf female there who had a story to tell of the War of the Fay and her sister's death.  She mentions at the end of her story that Kelethin and Felwithe were restored, was she misinformed?  Something I am not aware of happen after that event?  Or do I just need to pay more attention to the lore books in the game? lol</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>There is an NPC in Beggars Court that states she is Queen Antonia Bayle.  /shrug  If i was venture a guess I would say they may have had different plans for Felwithe back when they made the dialogue that NPC speaks and can be easily covered up by stating once again that NPC's have been known to be wrong, misleading, and even lie.</P> <P>Now Vhalen did not continue.  This war raged on for seasons and its quite possible that the Teir'Dal were routed from Felwithe after claiming it.  Sure alot has happened in 500 years but if Felwithe was restored why wouldnt it still be prospering since they were spared the rending.  And how does this fit in with new expansion lore about the Fae and wood elves rebuilding Kelethin.  There was no mention of high elves at all let alone the Queen.</P>

[KidMangaX]

<P>howabout Caballis? everyone looooves caballis! I'd love to see a caballis sometime soon. Ya know what, nvm. If there was a cabalis I'd want to be able to enslave some dark elves or put them into vassalage like the iksars of old. and soe would NEVER do that :smileyvery-happy: *nudge nudge wink wink*</P> <P> </P>

[Diern]

Excellent, the tier'dal always seem to get the rough end of the stick in EQ lore, good to see they plundered felwithe at least

[Caethre]

<DIV>OOC.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When I first posted, I knew in the back of my mind, that there was more to this, something telling me, I had heard the full tale somewhere, and this was but part of it, but I had forgotten the details. I had only remembered the outcome, and forgotten the 'horror' of the slaying of the Great King.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When I re-visited this thread, I recognized indeed the content of the text posted by Glaed (reply no22 above), as I indeed have had that same conversation in Willow Wood, but I knew there was more, something more, that I had read.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So, Felishanna headed back tp her room, and searched through the tomes she had collected, until she came across the History of the Koada`Dal. This is a transcript.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>The History of the Koada`Dal<BR>=====================</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>Through my own experiences, I have gained knowledge and insight into the Koada'Dal.<BR>Each part of this history tome can only be completed in its own time.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>Part I<BR>====</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>We are the First Children of Tunare, the mother of the elves and all that is beautiful in the world.  Long Ages ago, she walked through the woods and admired a glint of light dancing on the edge of her silken gown.  She touched the light and spoke to it and the Koada'Dal were born. It is not surprising that the others have long been jealous of our place in her heart.  It must be difficult to realize that one's own mother has a clear favorite.  Still, we endeavor to work with the ones that came later, no matter what their issue.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>Jealousy caused the twisting of the Teir'Dal, those pitiful straw-haired children of the dark who mock and challenge us.  They claim lineage to our first royals, in a sad attempt to legitimize their claims to elven blood.  They are truly pathetic.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>The Feir'Dal fawn over us, jumping to do our bidding.  And yet, they manage to fumble all to which they set their hands, and then come begging us for assistance to make things right.  Yes, it is sometimes difficult to be First.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>Through time, we have built many cities of great beauty and grace, which only incited the lesser beings of Norrath to further jealousy.  They assaulted us, able only to tear down that which they are unable to produce themselves.  One finds that our history is filled with such accounts, of the lesser beings taking out their rage and frustration upon the Koada'Dal. And, of course, when someone who believes in good is attacked, they call first upon us to rally to their cause. The pattern becomes a bore after a while.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>Though many have attempted to strike us down, it is the accursed Teir'Dal that are simply too idiotic to realize they can never win.  During the War of Fay, these cretins allied themselves with numerous unspeakable beings to attempt the destruction of Felwithe.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>Part II<BR>=====</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>Not surprisingly, the Teir'Dal fought without honor or plan. Those who fight honorably are sometimes caught off-guard by treachery.  The wretched refuse of Neriak managed somehow to enter Felwithe and they slew our king, Tearis Thex. They took this as their victory and cried aloud in triumph, only to be slain themselves.  Our king deserved an honorable death, not one through a barbaric act. Of course, honor is not something that is within the grasp of their simple minds.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>Tunare did not abandon her First Children.  She gave us insight into the ways of the Teir'Dal and we were able to rout them.  Naturally, they had left their rear unguarded, no doubt expecting reinforcements.  Instead they were abandoned by their own leaders; such is their way.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>Through the Age of War, we sent assistance to the forces defending Tunaria, though the humans called it "Antonica." That an upstart race of the barbarians should remove the name of Tunare and replace it with the name of another human fills us with such annoyance. In the end, Tunare alone sent help to her First Children while the other gods remained silent.  While she did not appear directly to us, we could feel her guidance flowing through our veins.  Faith such as ours is always rewarded.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>Part III<BR>=====</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>The Battle of Defiance ended and many of us remained near Qeynos to direct the repairs necessary.  Qeynos has never been a beautiful city, like Felwithe, but for the work of human-kind, it is tolerable.  Our aim was to inject some grace into its stark design.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>We received the Word of the Tranquil in our dreams.  It is said that very few others received the Word directly, but it is obviously no surprise that the majority of Tunare's First Children were visited directly.  The Word was troubling, however.  Troubling, for it conveyed that we should seek refuge in the cities of men.  The cities of men, not Felwithe!  It was as though our faith was being tested.  Would we heed the Word or would we remain at Felwithe?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>Some of us chose to remain in Qeynos rather than return to Felwithe immediately to retrieve our art and treasured heirlooms. Alas!  We did not know that the doom foreshadowed in the Word would follow it so quickly!  When the Rending was over, the shape of the lands was forever changed and the seas impossible to cross.  And for once, Tunare was unable to guide us home, though we could sense her sympathy for our loss. Were the gods punishing the others for their war-like ways?  Many scholars believe this is the case, for they lost faith in their creators and set out to destroy one another.  It was through their mischief that Luclin shattered, though we know not how.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff6600>We are the First Children and continue to keep watch over the rest of the world on Tunare's behalf.  The task is difficult and our charges do not appreciate our assistance.  Still, we do what we must for we understand the responsibility of being First.<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So, it seems, Vhalen has filled in some of the darkest details, but one can hope, that the historian who write these words, wrote true.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Felishanna.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Straylig]

Hey 'high' elves...PWNED.

[Vhalen]

<DIV>The War of Fay was epic indeed. There are many details we will only learn about when we step foot upon Faydwer, yet again. So many battles occurred in the great war, so many events. With even the bit I have told you about Felwithe, there are even deeper details. The reason for the dragoons entering Felwithe is far greater than the obvious.</DIV>

[Mary the Prophetess]

<P>From the EQ table-top RPG book, <U><EM>Forests of Faydark</EM></U>:</P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>[</FONT><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ffff00>Some legends suggest that Felwithe is built upon the ruins of the ancient Dark Elf capital of Caer T' Hiel, although no public records to support this claim can be found within Felwithe. The Teir 'Dal suggest that Tunare's Children razed Caer T' Hiel after Solusek Ro destroyed Takish 'Hiz, putting the Dark Elf inhabitants to the sword. The Koada 'Dal, of course, balk at the idea that their wonderous city could be built upon the ruins of such a hateful place.</FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00 size=2>A few High Elves however, claim that there may be some truth to this story, suggesting further that one can still find remnants of the Teir 'Dal construction where water now flows beneath the city. A few extremists have even suggested that the Koada 'Dal flooded the bottom portions of Caer T' Hiel purposefully, in order to hide the truth of the matter. City officials and patriot Koada 'Dal historians dismiss this idea entirely, stating that the water canals were constructed in order to further beautify the city, and to offer more means of transportation through Felwithe.]</FONT></P> <P>Just a thought.</P>

[Phylok]

<DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vhalen wrote:<BR> <DIV>The War of Fay was epic indeed. There are many details we will only learn about when we step foot upon Faydwer, yet again. So many battles occurred in the great war, so many events. With even the bit I have told you about Felwithe, there are even deeper details. The reason for the dragoons entering Felwithe is far greater than the obvious.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>So the king being killed could have been a distraction.  Tell me something, during the EQ2 story line, where is the princess Firiona and her staff the "Lifeguide"?</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>

[Ranger1017]

<DIV> <P>I've got that book, too, and i have read that bit. But no. No, no, no, a thousand times, no. This is part of the beta/fanfiction lore that I refuse to accept. If there is any truth to this, then we also have to accept the lore that Trakanon created the trolls, and the part where Innoruuk was originally the good god of all the elves. This and none of the rest of it even makes sense in the current lore as I understand it. Sorry, but no.</P> <P> </P> <P>Edit: This is in reply to Mary The Prophetess' post, I would have quoted but I kept getting an invalid HTML error.</P></DIV> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Ranger1017 on <span class=date_text>06-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:14 AM</span>

[Mary the Prophetess]

<P>Well, it all kind of depends on whether you believe that the lore stories you get from NPC dialogues in the game, or from books and scrolls, are the 'Truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth'.  I know that any number of NPCs in the game have lied to me in order to get me to do their dirty work.  I see no reason why I should not take what they say with a grain of salt.</P> <P>NPCs too, can have a 'spin', or can have a slanted view of their own history, and probably do.</P> <P>/shrugs</P> <P>It's just the way I look at what they say.</P><p>Message Edited by Mary the Prophetess on <span class=date_text>06-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:27 PM</span>

[Gungo]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ranger1017 wrote:<BR> <DIV> <P>I've got that book, too, and i have read that bit. But no. No, no, no, a thousand times, no. This is part of the beta/fanfiction lore that I refuse to accept. If there is any truth to this, then we also have to accept the lore that Trakanon created the trolls, and the part where Innoruuk was originally the good god of all the elves. This and none of the rest of it even makes sense in the current lore as I understand it. Sorry, but no.</P> <P> </P> <P>Edit: This is in reply to Mary The Prophetess' post, I would have quoted but I kept getting an invalid HTML error.</P></DIV> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P> <P>Message Edited by Ranger1017 on <SPAN class=date_text>06-01-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>11:14 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>where do you ge tinny was the good god of elves? </P> <P>Inny twisted the hearts of the elven king and queen when he kidnappend them and turned them to hate forming the dark elf race.</P>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Phylok wrote:<BR> <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vhalen wrote:<BR> <DIV>The War of Fay was epic indeed. There are many details we will only learn about when we step foot upon Faydwer, yet again. So many battles occurred in the great war, so many events. With even the bit I have told you about Felwithe, there are even deeper details. The reason for the dragoons entering Felwithe is far greater than the obvious.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>So the king being killed could have been a distraction.  Tell me something, during the EQ2 story line, where is the princess Firiona and her staff the "Lifeguide"?</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Firiona Vie is EQlive's mascot and main story character. She's not part of the game world in the same sense that Princess Lenya Thex was in EQlive. In Highkeep, there was a quest involved to rescue Lenya Thex from a dark elf enchanter who took on her form and tried to use that power for her own selfish ways. Unlike Firiona Vie, Lenya Thex actually was in the game all the time (untill they took her out for whatever reason), but Firiona Vie was always just a story character.</P> <P>EQ2 already set out to make sure they distance themselves from Firiona Vie by not including her, and rather focus around thier mascots of Antonia and Lucan.</P>

[RoninSenshi]

<DIV>This is where Vhalen spills the beans and tells you how Shintou singlehandly won the War of the Fay.. .. .. .. ..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Well ok maybe not really but it does seem I was somewhat correct. The Darkelves did sack and hold Felwithe. However, it appears they, while they held Felwithe, soon enought lost it once Queen Chrissy decided the War wasn't cool and 'forgot' to send reinforcements to break the back of the elves for good.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Looks like with the alliances the elves made with the Dwarves and Gnomes, they were able to clear the Darkelves out of Felwithe with the help of their Princess Queen Lady Thing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>However, I'm sorry to keep bringing him up but I don't see Mayong Mistmorre's minions sitting on the fence twiddling their thumbs while all of this is going on. I remember reading somewhere that after the War of the Fay, another thing struck that was even worse then the war itself that finally broke their backs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I want to believe that Mistmorre had something to do with this. Anyone have anymore info along that line?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And yes, I have a deep seated hatred for Felwithe and Kelethin :p. Not really, but its fun to let Shintou show a little. Heres a picture:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://members.aol.com/sageofthehalo/Tynkale.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Nocturnal Aby]

Muahahaha!!! I remember that!!! See that troll there!?!  That's me!  Serazuul Soulseer!  Troll shaman, prophet of Cazic-Thule!  Cut off my name, Shin!  Oh well.  How come you aren't in that picture?

[Solaran_X]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vhalen wrote:<BR> <DIV>There will come a time when you shall know all the movements of war that took place on Faydwer. For now, I will tell you a small bit about the grand city of Felwithe and its darker days.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>... A massive force of Neriak dragoons sieged the city of Felwithe. For many weeks the siege held, but the evil horde was too overwhelming and the gates of Felwithe were soon forced wide. In a bloody battle the dragoons defeated the ravaged Koada'Dal defenders and claimed the city of Felwithe as their own. In the wake of the battle, in a final skirmish in the palace, <STRONG>King Tearis Thex of the Koada'Dal</STRONG> fell to the daggers of Neriak. The dark days of Teir'Dal occupation began as the War of the Fay raged on in other regions of Faydwer. ...</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Now this is interesting. I have in front of me the EverQuest Atlas, and under the entry for Notable NPCs for 'Neriak - Third Gate' I see something very interesting in Master Xon Quexill's information.</P> <P>"When Cristanos Thex was married to his majesty King Naythox Thex and became the Queen of the Tier`Dal"</P> <P>Hmmm...<BR></P>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Since the Dark Elves were created from the first king and queen of the Elves, the rulling Hierarchy in Neriak and Felwithe both continue the tradition of taking the surname "Thex"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>One can assume that whoever rules or ruled over Kelethin is also a Thex.</DIV>

[Nocturnal Aby]

<P>Yeah, King Naythox Thex and King Tearis Thex died in the War of the Fay.  And yes, both Teir'Dal and Koada'Dal royal bloodlines share the same last name, because they both had the same original king and queen.  Innoruuk took the first king and queen, twisted them for 300 years, and ended up with Teir'Dal.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[RoninSenshi]

<DIV>Serazuul, thats actually Mudwart.. notice the Troll has a pair of claws.. he's actually a beastlord.. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>King Tearis Thex is King Naythox Thex (The first one)'s son. Thats why they both have the surname of "Thex".</DIV>

[Nocturnal Aby]

<P>Are you sure?  I was almost certain it was me, since Beastlords wore leather.  The green armor was the shaman class newbie armor, the claws had some real nice wisdom, and the glowie is the glowing black rock dropped by Pzjin or whatever in Qeynos hills.  Wish I still had my old EQ account open, could log in and tell you what the claws are, if they haven't deleted all my characters.</P> <P> </P> <P>Edit: And if you look at the little bit of the name that is there, you can almost make out the bottom of the letters of Serazuul Soulseer. And I found the <A href="http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=23229" target=_blank>claws</A>.</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Nocturnal Abyss on <span class=date_text>06-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:27 AM</span>

[Iagan the Swart]

<blockquote><hr>Mary the Prophetess wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <p>Well, it all kind of depends on whether you believe that the lore stories you get from NPC dialogues in the game, or from books and scrolls, are the 'Truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth'.  I know that any number of NPCs in the game have lied to me in order to get me to do their dirty work.  I see no reason why I should not take what they say with a grain of salt.</p> <p>NPCs too, can have a 'spin', or can have a slanted view of their own history, and probably do.</p> <p>/shrugs</p> <p>It's just the way I look at what they say.</p><p>Message Edited by Mary the Prophetess on <span class="date_text">06-01-2006</span> <span class="time_text">12:27 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Well in this case, the NPC in question asks nothing of us.  So I find it hard to believe that he is lying.  That of course does not mean that what he says is the truth.  More likely is that it is the truth as he remembers it.  After all he is spending his days in a cemetary that could not possibly contain the remains of his sister.<div></div>

[Ryoko Hakubi]

<DIV>oh wow, this is very exciting news!<BR><BR>Princess Lenya was my favorite NPC from EQ1. i felt like i was the only person who did that quest back in '99, but i loved it and went on to name my main char, a high elf cleric, Linya. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR><BR>from what ive read in this thread, it sounds to me that if felwithe IS in ruins from whatever has been destroyed in the teir'dal war or the shattering, since the koada'dal did eventually drive the teir'dal away they will be strong enough to rebuild their city.  and hopefully it will become open for the high elves to return to. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Themaginator]

i have read somewhere though i forget where that somehow the Dark Elves were pushed out onto the Loping planes and many were lost to the castle Mistmoore.  that might of been some Vhalen Lore to i think<div></div>

[Nocturnal Aby]

<P>Nope, not Vhalen, again, I point to Gaed's post on the conversation with Thayare Faystrider, you can find her yourself in Willow Wood, near the grave yard.  She sits there and prays for the soul of the sister she lossed in the War of the Fay.  The snippet you remember is below:</P> <P> </P> <P></P> <HR> Thayare Faystrider says, “Greatly outnumbered, the dark hordes repelled.<SPAN>  </SPAN>They retreated to the shadowed realms from whence they came.<SPAN>  </SPAN>Some unfortunate ones fled to the Loping Plains seeking a safe haven on the moors of Mistmoore, never to be heard from again.” <HR> <P></P> <P> </P> <P>From the research I've done on the Loping Planes, it's mostly populated with Kobold Clans, and Mistmoore's werewolves, with a few orc camps thrown in for flavor.  If the place shows up in EoF, it sounds like it would be a fun zone!  When I think about it, the image of Commonlands on steroid comes to mind <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Kobolds and werewolves and orcs, oh my!</P> <P> </P>

[hurleyb]

<STRONG>so basically when we get back felwithe will still be inhabited with the most stuck up of all high elves that refused to leave our grand home of felwithe? since the dark elves got pushed back i imagine theres still some elves there but by the sound of things felwithe is prolly in beat up shape. O well nothing new high elves are used to losses and they will probably rebuild an even better city, lol new neriak, u wish dark elf scum <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></STRONG>

[gimpmas]

As long as there's no blueberries in it. I'd rather see my home in ruins then see it owned by Darkelfs.but I'm praying to Tunare that it still stands.

[psubull]

in the very earliest of preview pictures for EQ2, there were screenshots of part of Felwithe that looked awesome.  Dig around on the internet and find them.  Hopefully that means it's been worked on for some time.   <div></div>

[WarShe]

<DIV>I so hope when we get into Felwithe we run into a ton of the indigo brotherhood....    :smileyhappy:</DIV>

[Vel]

<P>I don't remember who posted it and I don't feel like scrolling back to quote, but I definately agree with the fact that Mistmoore has played a roll in whatever the current state of Felwithe is.</P> <P>All through EQL we know that Mayong had been trying to reach god status. Now of course in EQL he has already attained that, but it isn't the same in EQII. But just because the time lines between EQL and EQII are different doesn't mean that Mayong's attitude has changed. I have a feeling that after the War of the Fay, ole Mistmoore decided to play some cards from his hands.</P> <P>I likewise remember reading something to the extent of 'After the invaders were pushed away from the light elves, an even stronger and darker threat made it's move'.</P> <P> </P> <P>If anything this could promise to be an extremely entertaining storyline.</P>

[Josgar]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>hurleyboy wrote:<div></div><strong>so basically when we get back felwithe will still be inhabited<font color="#ff0033"> with the most stuck up of all high elves that refused to leave our grand home of felwithe? </font>since the dark elves got pushed back i imagine theres still some elves there but by the sound of things felwithe is prolly in beat up shape. O well nothing new high elves are used to losses and they will probably rebuild an even better city, lol new neriak, u wish dark elf scum <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></strong><hr></blockquote>That would probbably be me! lol My High Elf would have stayed in Felwithe, but he was off of the continent, adventuring when the seas became violent. And if for some reason that Felwithe became "New Neriak" I would lead armed revolts to restore it back to its former glory.Maybe the Devs could give us a screenshot of Felwithe. All I know is that I am taking my High Elf back to faydwer into Felewithe immediately! Plus if it is taken over, maybe there will be a live event to take it back over... Sort of a war to get it back. <div></div><p>Message Edited by Josgar on <span class=date_text>08-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:41 PM</span>

[Xxile]

Now that we got flewith out of the way what happened kaladim i remember hearing somewhere it was in ruins.

[Hukklebuk]

<div>ahhh a home of marble for my Dark Elf... how fitting.<blockquote><hr>Vhalen wrote:<div>There will come a time when you shall know all the movements of war that took place on Faydwer. For now, I will tell you a small bit about the grand city of Felwithe and its darker days.</div> <div> </div> <div>... A massive force of Neriak dragoons sieged the city of Felwithe. For many weeks the siege held, but the evil horde was too overwhelming and the gates of Felwithe were soon forced wide. In a bloody battle the dragoons defeated the ravaged Koada'Dal defenders and claimed the city of Felwithe as their own. In the wake of the battle, in a final skirmish in the palace, King Tearis Thex of the Koada'Dal fell to the daggers of Neriak. The dark days of Teir'Dal occupation began as the War of the Fay raged on in other regions of Faydwer. ...</div><hr></blockquote></div>

[Xxile]

no if you read later on youl discover yall lost that like yall lose everything els

[Quinan Bellatrix]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Xxile wrote:<BR> Now that we got flewith out of the way what happened kaladim i remember hearing somewhere it was in ruins.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I'm afraid Kaladim may have suffered the worse of the Faydwer cities.  The most notable quote I can think of is from Zazoo of the Black Sun Sea , the dwarf in the back room of the Peacock Club.</P> <P>...</P> <P>You say to Zazoo of the Black Sun Sea,"So you have seen Kaladim?"</P> <P> </P> <P>Zazoo of the Black Sun Sea says to you,"Aye! I have seen Kaladim in this age. My hunt brought me to those halls. I chased the Hounds of Ethernere up from the depths of Norrath only to find the city in ruin. "</P> <P>You say to Zazoo of the Black Sun Sea,"Will you return?"</P> <P> </P> <P>Zazoo of the Black Sun Sea says to you,"My duty is to cleanse to underhalls of Serilis and that is where I must return to. But Kaladim may be my first step to my next crusade, after the hounds have been sent back to Ethernere."</P> <P> </P> <P>Hopefully we'll know more when the expansion is released but as yet, all we can do is wait.</P> <P> </P> <P>Digby</P> <P> </P>