Ar'ticae,Dythra and Mjolni

[Sinect]

<DIV>Log: Never before have I feared so much. They were so much smaller than the Red King, yet fought with a ferocity the King could not meet. There were four, and they fought with the power of a hundred. The Red King did not betray us. And our Mistress was by his side, honoring her pact. The Guardian of Flame rose again from the lava and struck down one of the small dragons and drove off the rest. The Red King lay wounded, and we are commanded to offer him aid. If he lives... then I believe our pact with his armies will be sealed forever more.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If im correct - these 3 whom Lord Nagafen sends us to destroy were the 3 that attacked him.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My question is what was the 4th ones name? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ar'ticae, the Frost Maiden</DIV> <DIV>Mjolni, the Bringer of Storms</DIV> <DIV>Dythra, the Gloombringer</DIV>

[Sinect]

<DIV>nm, thought I found it, still looking</DIV><p>Message Edited by Sinect on <span class=date_text>05-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:07 PM</span>

[Zoren Northwood]

<DIV>Where is this text from?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Interesting that it describes a dragon dying in lava.  I love being right (see other post on the dragon skeleton in Lavastorm) <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><p>Message Edited by Zoren Northwood on <span class=date_text>05-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:33 AM</span>

[IrishWonder]

<DIV>Not to burst bubbles, but that dragon it describes didn't die.... that dragon was and is Nagafen :smileywink: The full text is on another thread in the Lore forums somewhere.</DIV>

[Zoren Northwood]

"The Guardian of Flame rose again from the lava and struck down one of the small dragons and drove off the rest." "One of the small dragons" is not Nagafen. <div></div>

[Pins]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zoren Northwood wrote:<BR>"The Guardian of Flame rose again from the lava and struck down one of the small dragons and drove off the rest."<BR><BR>"One of the small dragons" is not Nagafen.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Nor was it a "dragon", but a drakota, because dragons won't fight other dragons directly.  And the 4th, well Nagafen sends us to kill 4 drakotas, not just 3.  The 4th just happens to be killed by the orcs, so we have to go to them to get the last ring required to access Darathar.<p>Message Edited by Pinski on <span class=date_text>05-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:08 PM</span>

[Jindrack]

<DIV>Ar'ticae, Dythra, and Mjolni are the three Drakota that attacked and killed Vox while she was in her lair, hence why they have her shards of Heart, Soul, and Spirit.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There were five Drakota sent to kill Nagafen soon after the above three left on their mission, these were Darathar's elite.  Aurraxius led Kaljanar, Niscanith, Vanudozalon, and Trenda'loz in the attack on Nagafen.  Without Najena's timely assistance they would have very likely succeeded in their mission, but as it turns out Najena's guardians greatly wounded Kaljanar and Nagafen was able to slay Aurraxius and rip his translocation ring from his neck.  The remaining four, wounded and losing ground, fled to hidden places in order to recover.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The events of "To Speak as a Dragon", "Fire and Ice", and "Deception" play out from there. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Kytraan]

Great text, but where is it from? <div></div>

[Jaale]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jindrack wrote:<BR> <DIV>Ar'ticae, Dythra, and Mjolni are the three Drakota that attacked and killed Vox while she was in her lair, hence why they have her shards of Heart, Soul, and Spirit.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There were five Drakota sent to kill Nagafen soon after the above three left on their mission, these were Darathar's elite.  Aurraxius led Kaljanar, Niscanith, Vanudozalon, and Trenda'loz in the attack on Nagafen.  Without Najena's timely assistance they would have very likely succeeded in their mission, but as it turns out Najena's guardians greatly wounded Kaljanar and Nagafen was able to slay Aurraxius and rip his translocation ring from his neck.  The remaining four, wounded and losing ground, fled to hidden places in order to recover.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The events of "To Speak as a Dragon", "Fire and Ice", and "Deception" play out from there. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>So in effect Kaljanar, Niscanith, Vanudozalon and Trenda'loz could still be alive licking their wounds somewhere?</P> <P>and that Nagafen has a translocation ring is very interesting as well.. and why has he not used it? (or if he has to do what?)</P> <P>From reading other posts I gather that Najena is still alive as well (maybe just sealed away in LS) will we see a new series of quests soon? (possibly connected to EoF?) if the Dracota are still alive could Darathar's elite have made it that far?</P><p>Message Edited by Jaale on <span class=date_text>05-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:13 PM</span>

[Zoren Northwood]

<p><i> Great text, but where is it from? </i>It's from a book that drops in Permafrost called "Watcher of the Mauls Theriig."<i> </i></p> <p><i> </i></p> <p><i>So in effect Kaljanar, Niscanith, Vanudozalon and Trenda'loz could still be alive licking their wounds somewhere? </i></p> <p><i> </i>We killed them during the Deception quest. </p> <p><i>and that Nagafen has a translocation ring is very interesting as well.. and why has he not used it? (or if he has to do what?) </i></p> <p>You need all five.  He gave us his ring, and we got the other four, then used them all to go to the Isle of Refuge and kill Darathar. </p> <div></div>

[Jaale]

<DIV>Ah ok then</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for the info <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>one day I'll complete that quest line <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[troodon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jindrack wrote:<BR> <DIV>Ar'ticae, Dythra, and Mjolni are the three Drakota that attacked and <EM><STRONG><U>killed Vox while she was in her lair<BR></U></STRONG></EM><BR> <HR> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Message Edited by troodon on <span class=date_text>05-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:20 AM</span>

[Powers]

Hey Jindrack, a spoiler warning might be nice next time for those of us who watch the Dev Tracker but like to discover lore on our own...Powers  &8^]<div></div>

[Jindrack]

<DIV>I thought content had a "Spoiled after 18 months" sticker on it. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sorry, I'll provide a warning next time.</DIV>

[Tallika_Runwithbears]

ahhh yah... i think the statue of limitations has laps on that lore...<div></div>

[Sinect]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jindrack wrote:<BR> <DIV>Ar'ticae, Dythra, and Mjolni are the three Drakota that attacked and killed Vox while she was in her lair, hence why they have her shards of Heart, Soul, and Spirit.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There were five Drakota sent to kill Nagafen soon after the above three left on their mission, these were Darathar's elite.  Aurraxius led Kaljanar, Niscanith, Vanudozalon, and Trenda'loz in the attack on Nagafen.  Without Najena's timely assistance they would have very likely succeeded in their mission, but as it turns out Najena's guardians greatly wounded Kaljanar and Nagafen was able to slay Aurraxius and rip his translocation ring from his neck.  The remaining four, wounded and losing ground, fled to hidden places in order to recover.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The events of "To Speak as a Dragon", "Fire and Ice", and "Deception" play out from there. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>OMG Jindrack - You rock!</P> <P> </P> <P>Comes from Watcher of the Mauls Theriig</P>Watcher of the Mauls Theriig <P>This book is titled "Watcher of the Mauls Theriig." It seems to be written by some type of military commander. You're not sure what army he commanded, nor which country he defended. He speaks of reagents you're unfamiliar with, too. It's possible this is just the work of a deranged bard.</P> <P>Log: The fire giants are too many. We slaughter them, but not enough. We are suffering losses as well, which is not good. It is time to tell our mistress that the Red King's empire is growing too large. I will offer my head as the price of failure.</P> <P>Log: Our good mistress is wise and merciful. I am still the Watcher of the Mauls, and my head remains upon my shoulders. She plans a different outcome that we are not to know. I neither agree nor disagree. The mistress has spoken.</P> <P>Log: The ambassador has returned and still lives. There is never a time when our mistress has not ruled over us well. Did she not notice when we had awoken? Did she not give us the secrets of mastering the ether? We can only repay her for her kindness, and we are proud to do so.</P> <P>Log: The Mauls met the giants today upon the Field of Fire. The battle was intense. For every fallen ogre, there lay next to it a fallen giant. It seemed as if both sides would fall together as one, were it not for the terrible magic of Mistress Najena. She appeared before us and raised from the very lava itself a victory we have never witnessed.</P> <P>Log: The mistress does not need us. The Guardian was enough to decimate the armies of the Fire Giants. We can offer her no more loyalty than we already have. And this is what she will be given. The Red King has sent his ambassador to us, and we did not eviscerate him as we should have. Our mistress told us to expect him.</P> <P>Log: We meet today upon the Field of Fire, our armies and the armies of the Red King. But we do not fight. We stare at each other, knowing that if our lords had not commanded us differently, we would all die in battle today. So we wait. We wait for our mistress to appear. And we wait for the Red King to return from icy netherlands. And we will wait until this has happened. We owe it to our mistress.</P> <P>Log: Though he is our enemy, one must acknowledge his lordship. The Red King towers over all of his armies. But perhaps he does not understand that size does not dictate victory. For is not our mistress smaller than us, yet far more powerful? The King has taken the offer of truce, and now ogre and giant march side by side to our mistress' laboratory to enter negotiations.</P> <P>Log: It is done. The Red King and our Mistress Najena have sealed an agreement. We will no longer embattle the giants, and they will no longer encroach. It was very difficult for us to allow the King's escort to leave our home unescorted, but this was her command. And we can offer her nothing less than to accede to her wishes.</P> <P>Log: All are to arms! Every Maul is lining into formation. The Red King has betrayed us, for we heard his roar of defiance. The very walls of our home shook with the intense fury of his declaration. Our mistress cannot be found, so we must act on our own recognizance. The Red King will pay for betraying our mistress' kindness.</P> <P>Log: Never before have I feared so much. They were so much smaller than the Red King, yet fought with a ferocity the King could not meet. There were four, and they fought with the power of a hundred. The Red King did not betray us. And our Mistress was by his side, honoring her pact. The Guardian of Flame rose again from the lava and struck down one of the small dragons and drove off the rest. The Red King lay wounded, and we are commanded to offer him aid. If he lives... then I believe our pact with his armies will be sealed forever more.</P> <P> </P>

[Sinect]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zoren Northwood wrote:<BR> <P><BR><I>and that Nagafen has a translocation ring is very interesting as well.. and why has he not used it? (or if he has to do what?)<BR></I></P> <P>You need all five.  He gave us his ring, and we got the other four, then used them all to go to the Isle of Refuge and kill Darathar.<BR><BR></P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I believe so yep

[Powers]

<div><blockquote><hr>Jindrack wrote:<div>I thought content had a "Spoiled after 18 months" sticker on it. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div> <div> </div> <div>Sorry, I'll provide a warning next time.</div><hr></blockquote>Thanks.  I know it's been in-game for a long time, but not all of us rush through content.  I've been playing since launch day and my highest-level character is in Tier 4.Powers  &8^]</div>

[DreamerClou]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jindrack wrote:<BR> <DIV>Ar'ticae, Dythra, and Mjolni are the three Drakota that attacked and killed Vox while she was in her lair, hence why they have her shards of Heart, Soul, and Spirit.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There were five Drakota sent to kill Nagafen soon after the above three left on their mission, these were Darathar's elite.  Aurraxius led Kaljanar, Niscanith, Vanudozalon, and Trenda'loz in the attack on Nagafen.  Without Najena's timely assistance they would have very likely succeeded in their mission, but as it turns out Najena's guardians greatly wounded Kaljanar and Nagafen was able to slay Aurraxius and rip his translocation ring from his neck.  The remaining four, wounded and losing ground, fled to hidden places in order to recover.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The events of "To Speak as a Dragon", "Fire and Ice", and "Deception" play out from there. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P> </P> <P>Great information!  Thanks Jindrack!</P>

[Jaale]

<P>A quick question..</P> <P>Now that the start of the game has changed and the Isle of refuge is no more (I assume) where do we port to when we use the 5 rings?</P> <P>or is the isle of refuge now a third and separate Isle to the queens colony and (sorry don't know the correct name) FP starter Isle?</P>

[Lord Montague]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jaale wrote:<BR> <P>A quick question..</P> <P>Now that the start of the game has changed and the Isle of refuge is no more (I assume) where do we port to when we use the 5 rings?</P> <P>or is the isle of refuge now a third and separate Isle to the queens colony and (sorry don't know the correct name) FP starter Isle?</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I look at it from a continuity standpoint - Darathar took over and wiped out the Isle of Refuge, and the current starter isles are what came about in the aftermath.<BR>

[Jaale]

<DIV>I can see that, though it would be nice if there was an "offical" lore to cover this.. it does seem to be a large gap in what is some fairly major elements to the game.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>or is it just a rewriting of history and we are to just accept that it has always been this way and that the Isle of ref is no way connected to the other two isles (other than being topographically identical)?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Any Developers want to chime in on this? Granted asking for a reply is almost the same as saying "I'll never be killed in this battle!" in a war film....... but still. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Jindrack]

<DIV>Lore-wise it could be said that the two human cities set up their own training islands after Darathar wiped out the Far Seas Trading Company settlement on the Island of Refuge.  They should be considered three seperate islands in the same sea, some distance from each other.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With the changes to the starter islands it through a curve ball at "Deception's" whole returning-to-the-start-of-it-all angle, but development marches on. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Jaale]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jindrack wrote:<BR> <DIV>Lore-wise it could be said that the two human cities set up their own training islands after Darathar wiped out the Far Seas Trading Company settlement on the Island of Refuge.  They should be considered three seperate islands in the same sea, some distance from each other.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With the changes to the starter islands it through a curve ball at "Deception's" whole returning-to-the-start-of-it-all angle, but development marches on. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Thanks for clearing that up for me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Had been something I'd been considering for a while.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I guess that at least one guy waiting to "get home to his girl and start a family restaurant" made it back in a war film after all <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Etherium]

<DIV>Will the Fae have their own island?  Or is something new planned for all the new characters created on Faedwer?</DIV>

[Sinect]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Etherium wrote:<BR> <DIV>Will the Fae have their own island?  Or is something new planned for all the new characters created on Faedwer?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>The Fae will start in Kelethin I believe - and If I read it right - so will other races have the option to

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sinect wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Etherium wrote:<BR> <DIV>Will the Fae have their own island?  Or is something new planned for all the new characters created on Faedwer?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>The Fae will start in Kelethin I believe - and If I read it right - so will other races have the option to<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>He ment if the Fae will have some form of Newbie Tutorial Zone like the Isle of Refuge / Isle of the Overlord / Queen's Isle.

[Quasicroa]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jindrack wrote:<BR> <DIV>Lore-wise it could be said that the two human cities set up their own training islands after Darathar wiped out the Far Seas Trading Company settlement on the Island of Refuge.  <STRONG>They should be considered three seperate islands in the same sea, some distance from each other.</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With the changes to the starter islands it through a curve ball at "Deception's" whole returning-to-the-start-of-it-all angle, but development marches on. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>From how IoR was at launch it always gave the feeling that both future Freeportians and Qeynosians arrived at the same spot and co-inhabited IoR up until leaving. One of the biggest things that gave this feeling was the interaction with the ambassodors who would acknowledge their rival (that wasn't there) on the other side of the room. Since I was not in beta I don't know if it was that way in beta and changed during.</P> <P>Anyway, so now you have the new way the game starts. I see nothing wrong with having a new vision and implementing it, but with the way launch charcters started and with IoR being tied in with the major storyline of the core game this was a very big oversight.</P> <P>However, its hard to view them as three seperate islands when we only see IoR on the world map. So I do hope that development at least attempts to patch up the oversight to help maintain some background.</P> <P>So then how does development fix this mess so that we all have something more smooth? Well one thing that should be done is update the world map to have an island trio where IoR is (should not be all that hard a fix) which would make the 'Norrathian Triangle' (dibs on name) much more believable. </P> <P>Next you need to touch on the lore to show that IoR did exist in its original fashion prior to Drathar showing up. This could be done by putting a few "Far Sea Refugees" on the new islands that can give some lore about the IoR. You know give them a few joke quests such as finding the washed up cargo and/or mates on the beach. Helping them would encourage them to share how part of IoR's operations were to find people and prep them for the city life. They can then share about how while things were going good out of the blue Drathar attacked and wiped out nearly all of IoR inhabitants minus the few lucky ones that managed to get away. </P> <P>This would also allow a tie in of Captain Vargos through the 'Far Seas Refugees' where they could explain that he used to be the person that found refugees out at sea and then took them to the cities. It also turned out that on the fateful day that Drathar attacked IoR and the fleeing ships Captain Vargos happend to be on a return trip to the island when he picked up most of the Far Seas people. </P> <P>As for three islands well thats easy enough. No city would of course want another to have all of them let alone an independent such as the Far Seas Trading Company. Lore could easily explain that the Qeynos Island and the Freeport Island where always there, but at the time of IoR they had other purposes. It just happened that with the lose of IoR they retooled the use of the islands.</P> <P>Having had a character at launch and prior to these changes the above for me(er them) makes a lot of sense in the series of events in Norrath and at least would come across as a lot more believable to current and future Norrathians.</P> <P>Anyway, however you do it this quest line was a major story and its worth fixing the gaps made by your new vision. </P>