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Jal
05-15-2006, 06:44 PM
I've been compiling as much information as i can on my favourite aspects of the game lore but i have yet to find any good solid information on Freeport and Qeynos in terms of when they were founded by who and their original purpose.Ive done a search but most threads tend to be about specific aspects of the city (Asylum etc) or get hung up on lucan and the militia which while interesting doesnt answer any of my questions. I have never played an everquest game prior to this so any information from the previous ages of Norrath is gladly welcomed.Thanks in advance from a humble Necromancer of Freeport.

Vhalen
05-15-2006, 10:23 PM
<P>There are multiple myths about when and how these two great cities were founded. Most of the confusion is centered around the small communites that existed before the founding of these cities. These communties were located on the same location we find these cities now. So... so many stories, many false. Instead of debunking these tales, (maybe later), I will tell you some basics. </P> <P>Freeport and Qeynos were both founded during the Age of Enlightenment. They were human strongholds and trade cities made to defy the harsh wilds of the age. They did rise from smaller communities that struggled to exist. Behind both cities creation we can find elements of valor that defended the cities populace of the time.   </P>

Mary the Prophetess
05-15-2006, 11:11 PM
<P>Two of those 'pre-cursor' communities for Freeport that I have heard of, are Weille, and Landing; (in that order).  The first community was associated with the 'War of the Broken Crown' (which may be nothing but legend), and the other from the tomes dealing with Ardathium, during the Age of Monuments.</P> <P>I heard the name of the pre-cursor name for the community upon which Qeynos was built once as well, though the name now eludes me.  I believe it was something like OceanView, but I am not at all certain. </P><p>Message Edited by Mary the Prophetess on <span class=date_text>05-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:12 PM</span>

Nocturnal Aby
05-16-2006, 07:17 AM
<P>I believe it was either Antonius Bayle the First or Second who is "credited" with the founding of Qeynos, one of them is called "the Uniter" or some such thing, since he united all the local villages to form Qeynos.  "the Broken Crown" lore is very, very old beta at best, and (more likely) fan fic at worst, fan fic that has been absorbed into lore, and that many people confuse with true lore.  </P> <P>For those of you not familiar with the broken crown lore, it essentially says that all the elves worshiped Innoruuk (mostly high and dark elves), and that the group of elves that became known as the High Elves or Koada'Dal made a pact with Tunare to overthrow the Tyrannical Caerthiriel (sp) Empire, who's orgins were on Faydwer (Felwithe even, if I remember correctly), and were aided last minute by the "wild woodland elves".  The elves loyal to the crown survived by opening a rift into the earth and migrating for centuries (I believe they throw in the 300 years here) eventually coming back up where Neriak was in EQ, and while they were underground, became the Dark Elves.</P> <P>Whether it is connected to this lore or not, I'm not sure, but I have heard from unreliable sources that the city of Freeport is built upon the ruins of an old Teir'Dal (Dark Elf) port outpost.  Whether this is true or not, only Vhalen can say <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

Cusashorn
05-16-2006, 07:20 AM
<DIV>Uhhh. High elves worshipping Innoruuk... yeah. I find that hard to believe.</DIV>

Mary the Prophetess
05-16-2006, 08:38 AM
<P>The War of the Broken Crown is one of those pieces of lore that has been a bone of contention since the game was launched.  I am really not sure in which category it falls; either early beta testing (before even the roles of the gods had been firmly assigned), or as fan fiction.  In either case, neither source is recognized as official lore.</P> <P>However:</P> <P>It has been around so long, and been cycled and recycled so many times, that, (at least bits and pieces of it), have assumed a 'quasi-lore' type of status.</P> <P>It is written from the perspective of the Teir 'Dal.  </P> <P>Basically it tells the story of a vast Elvish Empire that arose after the fall of Takish 'Hiz, ( I believe).  This was an Elvish Empire ruled by the Teir 'Dal, who forced their beliefs on all their Elvish subjects (including, supposedly, a state religion worshipping Innoruk).  There was no real distinction made between Koada 'Dal, and Feir 'Dal.  They were both just 'Elves', (although the Feir 'Dal were referred to as the 'Wild Elves', and were considered to be somewhat uncivilized, and not really subjects of the Teir 'Dal Empire).</P> <P>The non Teir 'Dal elements of this supposed Elvish Empire, rebelled, the first spark of resistence beginning at the outpost of Wielle, (on the future site of Freeport).  Eventually the revolt spread across the Ocean of Tears to the Faydwer which was the heart of the Teir 'Dal Empire.  The 'Wild Elves', (who had remained neutral to this point), threw in their support at the climactic battle between the Empire and the rebels, and the Empire was overturned.  The survivors fled to the Underfoot, and eventually founded Neriak.</P> <P>The victors built their new capital (Felwithe) on the ruins of the old Dark Elvish capital of Caer T 'Hiel.</P> <P>Here is the story, though you may want to take it with a grain of salt.  Remember, this is not officially sanctioned lore, and the game designers have said as much, yet the story persists.</P> <P>Afterwards is Jindrack's response.</P> <P>__________________________________________________ ____________________________________</P> <P> </P> <P><U>The War of the Broken Crown</U><SPAN class=time_text><U></U></P> <P>Of Caer T' Hiel:</P> <P>The Dragons had relinquished their hold over Norrath, and what are now known as the elder races, the Elves and the Dwarves, stepped out from under their gargantuan shadow. The Dwarves sprang forth from the earth, to hold dominion over their mountainous kingdoms. The Elves took to the primeval forests of Norrath, creating a vast empire that spanned several continents. Ruling from the city of Caer T' Hiel, the Elves lived in peace; under the guidance of Innoruuk, the Elven god.</P> <P>Of the Rebellion and the Outpost of Wielle:</P> <P>As corruption in the empire grew, so did the unrest in many Elves' hearts. They wanted more and more power for themselves. They grew suspicious of the strength of Innoruuk, choosing to destroy his works, and kill his servants. At first they were small in size, and weak in power. But as the years went by the rebels' power grew. By using treacherous methods to slander the leaders of the Elven Empire, their insurrection spread. The first overt sign of the growing rebellion came at the Elven outpost of Wielle, located where the city of Freeport is today. Wielle was loyal to the Empire, and therefore, enemies of the rebels. A rebel army under the captain, P' Aetroen savagely attacked it. All the citizens of the outpost were killed.</P> <P>That action shattered centuries of relative peace. Suddenly the Empire had to face a new enemy; a darkness in it's midst. The Emperor, Kel' Anthinstion, called on all of the citizens of the Empire to fight for the cause of Innoruuk. He sent his most trusted advisers, all disciples of Innoruuk, to the far reaches of the Empire. They were to gather support to fight the rebels and support the unity of the Empire. The rebels had sent their own recruiters, using underhanded tactics, to undermine the populace’s faith in their god. The war continued for decades.</P> <P>Of the Battle of Aerignon and the Wild Elves:</P> <P>The war remained stalemated for many years. That changed with the Battle of Aerignon, named after the province of the Empire where it took place. The loyal forces of the Empire thought to catch P' Aetroen and his rebels unprepared. They attacked him at his home base, just north of Elizerain Lake. Forces were massed and placed under the direct command of the Emperor himself. He was to lead the army of Innoruuk to destroy the rebels once and for all. As the army encircled P' Aetroen's military headquarters, a victory for the blessed forces of Innoruuk seemed assured. Outmaneuvered and outnumbered, the rebels were unable to gather enough forces to turn back the impending assault; and escape by any other means was impossible.</P> <P>But Imperial victory was denied that day, as a third player in the war, the Wild Elves, revealed themselves, and entered the conflict. Wild Elf was a term used by citizens of the Empire for the primitive Elves the lived beyond the borders of the Empire. They had remained neutral throughout the war, but had succumbed to the rebels' promises of victory, and had joined the war on the rebel side. What was supposed to be a day of victory for the Empire turned into its greatest defeat. The Emperor himself was killed when an Wild Elf assassin slipped into his tent and killed him from behind. On that day the Empire was doomed.</P> <P>Of the Fall of the Imperial City:</P> <P>The war continued for a number of years after the death of the Emperor. In desperation, the remaining loyalists sent messengers to the Dwarven Kingdoms for aid against the rebels. They returned with discouraging news; the Dwarves were fighting their own war, and could send no help. With the help of a new fiendish type of magic, the rebels pushed the loyalists back to their capital, Caer T' Hiel, which was in the area now known as the Loping Plains. Inside, the last of the loyalists huddled in their homes, manned the battlements, and attempted to hold on to the last remnants of their shattered empire. Without a leader to rally them, they were demoralized, and their resistence was futile.</P> <P>Help however, came from an unexpected quarter, in the form of a priest of Innoruuk, who rose up as leader of the demoralized survivors of the capital. His name changes with every telling, but the fact remains that in the dark of the night, the day before the final assault on Caer T' Hiel, the priest led the last of the loyalists into the earth, through a chasm that was opened and closed by Innoruuk himself. When the rebel army assaulted the city the next day, they found nothing but an empty town, devoid of any life.</P> <P>Of the Elven Schism:</P> <P>As the loyalists took refuge underground, the rebels felt themselves to be the victors of the War of the Broken Crown. They took the name Koada 'Dal, meaning High Elf, while the Wild Elves became known as the Fier 'Dal, or Wood Elves. Without the Emperor to guide it, defeated, and demoralized, the Empire fell apart. The Elves that remained on the surface, the High Elves, could not stand the symbol of Imperial power that was the old capital of Caer T' Hiel, and in an act of rage and defiance, they destroyed it. They created their own, new capital of Felwithe on the very spot where the Emperor had been murdered in the battle that destroyed the Empire. The loyalists now fled west to the wild and uncharted continent of Tunaria. There, they established the well guarded, underground city of Neriak, where they stayed for many, many years attempting to rebuild their once great empire; all the while plotting revenge against the rebels who had forced them from the Faydwer. Having been exposed for generations to the low light of their underground kingdom, and to the harsh conditions of life underground, the skin of those Elves still loyal to Innoruuk has become darker, and the Elves themselves have become warriors guided by the power of their god. They are feared by the inhabitants of Tunaria, who call the loyalists the Teir 'Dal, or Dark Elves.</P> <P>__________________________________________________ ____________________________________</P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>The Norrathians, even the Teir'Dal, treat the myth of Caerthiel the same way we treat the story of Camelot IRL.  Is it possible it existed at one time? Maybe.  Do people believe the stories of King Arthur as historical fact?  Not really.  If an adventurer went up to a Norrathian and tried to convince them Caerthiel existed they'd probably be met with the same response as you would going up to someone on the street and telling them that Camelot was real.  Probably a lot of scoffing and eyerolling would be involved. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT></P></SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Mary the Prophetess on <span class=date_text>05-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:55 PM</span>

Jal
05-16-2006, 11:50 AM
Thankyou.

ArrBa
05-16-2006, 11:51 AM
I seem to remember the High Elf Queen and King being tricked by Innoruuk (who posed as a High Elf I guess) and placed in his realm. While in this realm the 2 began to bicker and fight with each other, slowly twisting their souls into a shell of their former self. They became the first Dark Elves. I remember Inny bragging that he didn't force them to do anything, they began to act hateful on their own. They get their blueish tint from lack of sunlight. They have been underground for most of their generations. The lore of Dark Elves is around here somewhere. Anyway, Qeynos was founded when the scattered human settlements came together in one place. Antonious Bayle I was responsible for this. He became King for his efforts. The stronger humans, however, remained tribal. They chose to live in the frozen tundra north of Qeynos. They named thier city Halas, and adopted the name barbarians. Freeport was just that, a trade port, nothing fancy. However because of its importance to trade and commerce, it began to grow. The paladins and templars of Freeport decided they would rule together. Then Lucan comes in, the rest is history Disclaimer: This stuff I read in the early days of EQlive. Either from NPCs or lore from the website. I haven't play in a bajillion years so please correct me if i get anything wrong, however you should be able to the gest. <div></div>

IrishWonder
05-16-2006, 03:20 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ArrBard wrote:<BR><BR>Anyway, Qeynos was founded when the scattered human settlements came together in one place. Antonious Bayle I was responsible for this. He became King for his efforts. The stronger humans, however, remained tribal. They chose to live in the frozen tundra north of Qeynos. They named thier city Halas, and adopted the name barbarians.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Just wanted to point out that this is not where barbarians originated, before we divulge into that topic :smileywink: The barbarians came before humans, and were creations of Mithaniel and Erollisi Marr. It is said that humans are an evolution of barbarians.

Cusashorn
05-16-2006, 04:43 PM
<DIV>Yeah the Barbarians came long before the Humans.</DIV>

ElctSocket
05-17-2006, 04:02 PM
I believe there is a book from EQ1 that said when Qeynos was founded...Can't remember though (Sorry!)<div></div>

PsiaMeese
05-18-2006, 12:09 AM
Is Queen Antonia's <b>New Dawn Day</b> related to the founding of either Qeynos or Freeport? <div></div>

Vhalen
05-18-2006, 01:15 AM
<P>New Dawn Day is a celebration that began in the Age of Destiny. It marks the beginning of new hope and the departure from the violent Age of Cataclysms.</P> <P> </P> <P>As for Qeynos of yore, here is a bit taken from one of my tomes:</P> <P>... A band of humans made its way through the gnoll infested hills and founded a small fishing village alongside the northern Coldwind Coast shoreline. The shores of the new coastal village were teeming with fish and the land could be easily defended from attack. If most of the resources were put towards the defense, this large village could provide for the scattered human settlements of the plains. This new village must be more than a mere village, it must be a stronghold. The village settlers would send word to the clans of the plains. Most of the human chieftains of the plains voted to migrate to the coast and begin work on reinforcing the construction efforts there. The new sprawling stronghold city was named Oceangreen, after the beauty that nestled it. The defense of Oceangreen and the remaining settlements of the plains demanded the training of a human army. There was no loss of volunteers and the new clan militias of Oceangreen swelled. Each of the nine warrior clans of the militia specialized in their own art of war; each thinking their way was superior to all others. Weekly duels occurred with the winner retaining the ceremonial Qeynos Claymore, an ancient sword returned to the human settlements by an adventuring spirit named Vallius Bayle. These duels eventually grew into large bloody battles. Jealousy erupted and the warrior clans began to war with one another. Villagers were forced to choose sides or be beaten. Walls between the clans soon were erected. The new city of Oceangreen was beginning to look as barbaric as the Northland clans that the humans left so long ago. ...</P>

Kikena
05-18-2006, 01:24 AM
<P>I can only guess that the tome he refers to is in-game.</P> <P>Anyone know where it drops if it is in-game?</P>

xentavius
05-18-2006, 01:44 AM
<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Kikenata wrote:<div></div> <p>I can only guess that the tome he refers to is in-game.</p> <p>Anyone know where it drops if it is in-game?</p><hr></blockquote> Vhalen has an ancient, worn and dusty tome by his desk he has shared with us many times on these forums. How this tome came to be is a mystery, but Vhalen in now the guardian of it. (RP way to say, this probably isn't in the game) <div></div><p>Message Edited by xentavius on <span class="date_text">05-17-2006</span> <span class="time_text">05:44 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by xentavius on <span class=date_text>05-17-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:44 PM</span>

Cusashorn
05-18-2006, 01:44 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kikenata wrote:<BR> <P>I can only guess that the tome he refers to is in-game.</P> <P>Anyone know where it drops if it is in-game?</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Its' not. Vhalen is the game lore designer. He's refering to his workspace. he's got the entire everquest history written and recorded in his office or whatever he prefers to call the area he works in.</P> <P> </P> <P>I'd like to think of him like that one scene from Lord of the Rings where Gandalf the Grey goes off to the city to do some research, and it shows him surrounded by stacks of papers and tomes.</P>

Mary the Prophetess
05-18-2006, 02:57 AM
<P><EM><FONT color=#ffff00 size=2>Turan moves silently through the empty halls. </FONT></EM></P> <P><EM><FONT color=#ffff00 size=2>Although he is a Ranger, skilled at moving quickly and quietly, he feels as if his every footfall is a thunderclap, and the beating of his heart sounds as if the Orcish wardrums are sounding across the ruins of his old home in Surefall.</FONT></EM></P> <P><EM><FONT color=#ffff00 size=2>He finds the room he is searching for, and ducks inside. </FONT></EM></P> <P><EM><FONT color=#ffff00 size=2>It is 3:00 in the morning, the midnight of the soul, and everyone appears to be sleeping.</FONT></EM></P> <P><EM><FONT color=#ffff00 size=2>No time to be particular, he grabs a book at random amongst the hundreds laying stacked about, and leaves as quickly and silently as he entered.</FONT></EM></P> <P>__________________________________________________ _____________________________________</P> <P>From Vhalen's library:</P> <P>The Maps of Myrist:</P> <P>Entry 23:</P> <P>BlackBurrow:</P> <P>"The Sabertooth Clan has remained active in the area now known as the Qeynos Hills since before the construction of the great human city of Qeynos.  It was around the time that Antonius Bayle, the Great Unifier and patriarch of this famed namesake, united the coastal settlement of Oceangreen with human clans in the regions of the Karana plains and the Jaggedpine Forest, that the construction of Qeynos began."</P> <P>__________________________________________________ ____________________________________</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Mary the Prophetess on <span class=date_text>05-17-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:07 PM</span>

KnightMarshal
05-18-2006, 02:55 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>xentavius wrote:<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Kikenata wrote:<div></div> <p>I can only guess that the tome he refers to is in-game.</p> <p>Anyone know where it drops if it is in-game?</p><hr></blockquote> Vhalen has an ancient, worn and dusty tome by his desk he has shared with us many times on these forums. How this tome came to be is a mystery, but Vhalen in now the guardian of it. (RP way to say, this probably isn't in the game) <div></div><p>Message Edited by xentavius on <span class="date_text">05-17-2006</span> <span class="time_text">05:44 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by xentavius on <span class="date_text">05-17-2006</span> <span class="time_text">05:44 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>If a man guards a book year after year, which is more important, the man or the book?</div>

Kikena
05-18-2006, 08:05 PM
Thanks for the info.

Jaale
05-18-2006, 10:02 PM
<P>Any chance of us mere mortals getting our hands on a copy of your Tomes of lore? (say maybe at a good retailers)</P> <P>or is it still a bit to "liquid" for that? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

Arthalion Gatecaller
06-08-2006, 07:02 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vhalen wrote:<BR> <P>Freeport and Qeynos were both founded during the Age of Enlightenment. They were human strongholds and trade cities made to defy the harsh wilds of the age. They did rise from smaller communities that struggled to exist. Behind both cities creation we can find elements of valor that defended the cities populace of the time.   <BR></P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>With all due respect to Vhalen, that can't be correct.  The Age of Enlightenment began with the founding of Erudin.  Erud led his followers from Qeynos, on the western coast of Antonica, to Odus.  This means that Qeynos must have existed before the Age of Enlightenment.

Cusashorn
06-08-2006, 10:31 AM
<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Arthalion Gatecaller wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vhalen wrote:<BR> <P>Freeport and Qeynos were both founded during the Age of Enlightenment. They were human strongholds and trade cities made to defy the harsh wilds of the age. They did rise from smaller communities that struggled to exist. Behind both cities creation we can find elements of valor that defended the cities populace of the time.   <BR></P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>With all due respect to Vhalen, that can't be correct.  The Age of Enlightenment began with the founding of Erudin.  Erud led his followers from Qeynos, on the western coast of Antonica, to Odus.  This means that Qeynos must have existed before the Age of Enlightenment.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>*checks*</P> <P> </P> <DIV>....</DIV> <DIV><BR>He's right.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>From the Brief History of Norrath:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> <HR> </DIV> <DIV><EM>"A small, frail man of great intellect called Erud led this group, and formed them into a council. They quickly became irritated, even disgusted, by their fellow man. Leaving a small network of spies behind, the remainder of Erud's followers fled the city of Qeynos and boarded a small fleet of ships. They sailed to the west and landed upon the barren coast of the island of Odus. The Land was sparse and uninhabited and quite appealing to the council and thier people. They quickly built a city of their own, dissimilar in almost every way to both Qeynos and Freeport, for it was almost entirely a towering castle. Erudin it was called, and within it the scribes and scholars, who called themselves High Men, gathered and analyzed reports, captured books and scrolls, and other artifacts brought to them by their spies. The first human mages since the Combine Empire were born - wizards, sorcerers, and enchanters occupied the great halls of Eruditn and grew immensly in both power and knowledge. Thus began the Age of Enlightenment." </EM> <HR> </DIV> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>True, it mentions that Qeynos and Freeport formed sometime after the fall of the Combine Empire in the paragraph of that story right before the one I just typed out, but it's worded in such that the Age of Enlightenment would not start untill Erudin was founded, and would end once Necromancy was discovered and the Erudian Civil War occured and all that.</P>

Vhalen
06-08-2006, 10:34 PM
<P>A very large mystery arose during the evolution of EverQuest. That mystery was, "Who is naming all these ages and why?" Bill Trost and I began to develop a timeline of major events and expand the existing lore. We then created a society called the Watchers of Solus, the keepers of ages. We now understood who named the ages and why. This organization has not been entirely revealed to Norrathians, but you have met one of their leaders, The Sage of Ages. He is the only one that the empires of Norrath have ever encountered. So what does this have to do with our discrepancy? The Age of Enlightenment was not named solely for the achievements of the Erudites. Although the founding of Erudin is the first major event of the Age of Enlightenment, it is not the beginning of that age. Yet, human records often mark it as such. </P> <P>On a related note, the founding of Qeynos grew from a city called Oceangreen, a city that existed before the Age of Enlightenment. Although records may name Oceangreen as Qeynos, it was not officially called by that name for quite some time.</P>

Eriol
06-08-2006, 10:52 PM
<blockquote><hr>Vhalen wrote:<p>On a related note, the founding of Qeynos grew from a city called Oceangreen, a city that existed before the Age of Enlightenment. Although records may name Oceangreen as Qeynos, it was not officially called by that name for quite some time.</p><hr></blockquote>Did the name change around the same time that Sony started dumping money by the truckload into Verant?<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />(Qeynos = SonyEQ backwards for the 1 or two that didn't know. <a href="http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20010210" target="_blank">This comic</a> together with <a href="http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20010213" target="_blank">this one</a> from GU are also applicable)Edit: clarified a point<p>Message Edited by Eriol on <span class=date_text>06-08-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:53 PM</span>

Rezikai
06-08-2006, 11:26 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vhalen wrote:<BR> <P>A very large mystery arose during the evolution of EverQuest. That mystery was, "Who is naming all these ages and why?" Bill Trost and I began to develop a timeline of major events and expand the existing lore. We then created a society called the Watchers of Solus, the keepers of ages. We now understood who named the ages and why. This organization has not been entirely revealed to Norrathians, but you have met one of their leaders, The Sage of Ages. He is the only one that the empires of Norrath have ever encountered. So what does this have to do with our discrepancy? <EM><FONT color=#ffff00>The Age of Enlightenment was not named solely for the achievements of the Erudites. Although the founding of Erudin is the first major event of the Age of Enlightenment, it is not the beginning of that age. Yet, human records often mark it as such. </FONT></EM></P> <P>On a related note, the founding of Qeynos grew from a city called Oceangreen, a city that existed before the Age of Enlightenment. Although records may name Oceangreen as Qeynos, it was not officially called by that name for quite some time.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>This is a crucial part of why we cant assume things are so crystal clear w/timelines, in EQOA Arcadin/Erudin is still being built even though the combine empire had fallen and the time between could have been years.</P> <P>I assume,.. that the word "Begining" is relative.. technically 1920 was still in the "begining" of the 20th century even though 20 years had passed, and if an age is 200-300 years.. eh.. well you see where i'm going w/ this.</P> <P>Also.. the "war of the crown" was mentioned in EQoA.. weather or not it was Fan fic or lore is hard to say though.. just the way Vhalen likes it .. cryptic and fabled.. as actual history of anctient times can be yet today in our own world...</P> <P>what I wish is.. for maps... maps of the old empires and "rough" timelines on them.. if not then just maps of ofld empires territories .. im harking back to the Elven empire w/Tak Hiz and the 1st Rallosian empire now.. heck even farther back if he'd be so willing to go...lol.<BR></P>

Mary the Prophetess
06-09-2006, 12:37 AM
<P>From The Maps of Myrist, compiled by Maelin Starpyie:</P> <P>__________________________________________________ ______________________________________</P> <P>"The line of Qeynos rulers by the name of Antonious Bayle has continued for centuries.  The current one, <FONT color=#ffff00 size=2>(in EQLive)</FONT>, is the fourth in the line.  He was born in 5275, <FONT size=2><FONT color=#ffff00>(no real information on exactly 5,275 years from <EM>what</EM>)</FONT> </FONT>and crowned in 5299.  He controls the city as well as the surrounding area.  He has many allies, but has found a formidible nemisis in his brother, Kane <FONT color=#ffff00 size=2>(Antonious' younger brother).</FONT>  It is said that he, <FONT size=2><FONT color=#ffff00>(Not sure if 'he' is referring to Antonious, or Kane)   </FONT></FONT>has been linked romantically with Lady Shea <FONT color=#ffff00 size=2>(not really sure exactly who she is)</FONT> even though the two have not been seen together in some time.</P> <P>The first Antonious Bayle, born in 5105, formalized the existence of the Lawful City of Qeynos <FONT color=#ffff00 size=2>(presumably from the already existing village/city of Oceangreen)</FONT>  and was crowned in the same year of 5130 <FONT size=2><FONT color=#ffff00>(the 'official' year of the founding of Qeynos)</FONT>  </FONT>For his part in uniting the humans of the plains and founding the city, he was known as the "Great Unifier". <FONT color=#ffff00 size=2>(note that this is a mere 169 years from Antonious Bayle I, and the re-naming of Oceangreen to Qeynos, and the coronation of the EQLive monarch, Antonious Bayle IV)</FONT></P> <P>Antonious Bayle II was crowned in 5191 at the age of 36.  He led the movement to have the continent of Tunaria renamed Antonica, ostensibly in honor of his father, but of course his own name was the same, as some sages wryly noted at the time.  During his reign The Hole was formed when the Heretics of Erudin revolted against their high council and left their citadel.  This marked the beginning of the Age of Turmoil, during which Antonious Bayle II was dubbed the "Great Defender."</P> <P>The third member of the dynasty was born in 5214 and spent his childhood watching the events of the world unfold.  During his time, Sir Lucan took over the trade city of Freeport and the Heretics of Erudin completed the construction of their city, Paineel.  When he came to power, he did his best to be neutral.  His efforts at remaining so earned him the nickname the "Great Diplomat."</P> <P>__________________________________________________ ______________________________________</P> <P>Now, what to make of this?  Well, the Maps of Myrist, (Myrist is the name of the Great Library on the Plane of Knowledge), is considered to be 'officially' sanctioned lore.  However, it was compiled by the Gnome, Maelin Starpyie, who although learned, may or may not have gotten all of his facts straight.</P> <P>A case in point would be the background he gives concerning our oft-discussed friend, Gynok Moltor:</P> <P>__________________________________________________ ______________________________________</P> <P>"When Oceangreen was first created, the yet to be named Qeynos Hills was home to several different clans of Gnolls.  Only one of these clans, the Sabertooth clan, <FONT color=#ffff00 size=2>(another being the Darkpaws), </FONT>the largest, was violent towards human settlers.  However, this violence would not hinder the construction of what would become the jewel of the human race.</P> <P>One generation later, Antonious Bayle II, the Great Defender, appointed Gynok Captain of the Tower Guard.  Captain Gynok Moltar would order small units of his guards to slay Gnolls in the Qeynos Hills, unbeknownst to his superior and commander.  It was well known that Gynok despised the Gnolls, who had slain his parents years before.  Gynok would later cut off High Shaman Opalla's hand during the elder Gnoll's attempt to make a treaty of peace with the humans.  This horrible act led to the eternal war between the citizens of Qeynos and the Sabertooths."</P> <P>__________________________________________________ ______________________________________</P> <P>Now the esential points of the story, (that it was Gynok Moltar that cut off Opalla's hand with the Bone Bladed Claymore, thereby bringing the curse down upon himself and his sword), are the same as the in-game lore surrounding the Bone Bladed Claymore, still, there are slight differences in the two stories.  The same may also be true of other things Maelin speaks about.</P> <P>Just something to chew on.</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Mary the Prophetess on <span class=date_text>06-08-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:45 PM</span>

MysticTrunks01
06-10-2006, 01:02 AM
<font color="#cc0033">Bill Trost and I began to develop a timeline of major events and expand the existing lore.<font color="#ffffff">Come on Vhalen!  Make our lives easier and publish that timeline!  So many people are so confused that don't keep up with this regularly, some people think the Shattering is the Rending, others that they are the same thing, some thing hte gods have just gone last week (exageration but not by muchFor the RP community especially this would help alot of people!  And... there's a cooking in it for you.</font></font><div></div>

Nocturnal Aby
06-13-2006, 11:06 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mary the Prophetess wrote:<BR> <P>From The Maps of Myrist, compiled by Maelin Starpyie:</P> <P>__________________________________________________ ______________________________________</P> <P>"The line of Qeynos rulers by the name of Antonious Bayle has continued for centuries.  The current one, <FONT color=#ffff00 size=2>(in EQLive)</FONT>, is the fourth in the line.  He was born in 5275, <FONT size=2><FONT color=#ffff00>(no real information on exactly 5,275 years from <EM>what</EM>)</FONT> </FONT>and crowned in 5299.  He controls the city as well as the surrounding area.  He has many allies, but has found a formidible nemisis in his brother, Kane <FONT color=#ffff00 size=2>(Antonious' younger brother).</FONT>  It is said that he, <FONT size=2><FONT color=#ffff00>(Not sure if 'he' is referring to Antonious, or Kane)   </FONT></FONT>has been linked romantically with Lady Shea <FONT color=#ffff00 size=2>(not really sure exactly who she is)</FONT> even though the two have not been seen together in some time.</P> <P></P> <HR> <P></P> <HR> <P>It's refering to Antonius as the one who has been romantically linked with <A href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=1077" target=_blank>Lady Shae</A>, who spent quite a lot of time drinking on her stays at the inn in West Freeport, same one that her dwarven friend stayed at, the guy who like muffins <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  If you read the first post on the link I provided, it will give you all the available evidence of their romantic involvement that I know of, outside of the Maps of Myrist, of course, and it is commonly believed she is the elven blood that exists in Queen Antonia's bloodline (yes, she's 1/28th elf, or something like that).</P> <P> </P> <P> </P></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>