Ok. The Gods are going to return to Norrath. Eventually.

[Cusashorn]

<DIV><A href="http://www.allakhazam.com/e3/news/sdetail7350.html?story=7350" target=_blank>http://www.allakhazam.com/e3/news/sdetail7350.html?story=7350</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks to that E3 Interview, Its revealed that Echoes of Feydwere will introduce Tinkering as 2ndary tradeskill (I honestly never had any problem with the idea of Tinkering being added into the game. Just so long as it wasn't racially restricted to just gnomes), and the new Deity-Belief system is just the first part of the gods returning to Norrath.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With Fallen Dynasty, we're going to end up meeting Zebuxoruk, who apparently has amnesia and doesn't remember ever achieving his god-hood. I can understand that, as he was a mortal to begin with and was never ment to be a god in the first place.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If the Gods are returning, then what about the Planes? I don't want the game to focus on going back in there and wrecking up the place. I DEFFINITLY do not want to see the gods become attackable for any reason.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class=date_text>05-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:37 PM</span>

[DreamerClou]

Did it say anywhere that the gods were leaving the world of Norrath for good? for eternity?  I understood it as the gods were withdrawing their influence for a limited time.  Not forever...  With that said, EQ2 should be a dynamic game, an everchanging game.  Not static.

[valkyrja]

I don't think anyone ever said they were leaving for good, more that they weren't taking any calls.  Perhaps something has changed which makes them desire to take interest in us again?  No one, not even gods do things without a reason.<div></div>

[Y]

I don't recall being told that the Gods have left for good, so I don't have a problem with them regaining interest in Norrath.Secondly, that the Gods are returning doesn't mean that we'll see any actualy, physical avatars of them in the game world. I think it's more likely that our connection to them will be on a more spiritual basis for the time being.<div></div>

[Kamimura]

<P>A lesson in making 'they will NEVER' statements maybe? :smileywink:</P> <P>I don't think the game was built around the idea of the gods never coming back, that they were gone yes, and all the bad things that happened because of it.. but not that they were gone for good. The lore could have had it going either way really. I do agree with not wanting the gods to ever be attackable though, and that idea doesn't make much sense with the current lore. It would seem they would just get mad and leave again, and we know all the bad crap that happened because of it. :smileytongue:</P>

[Mary the Prophetess]

<P>I think they, (the designers), have learned their lesson.  </P> <P>Do not make legendary figures, that your game's history turns around, killable.</P> <P>If Nagafen is level 100 ^^^ epic (x4), that makes him all but unkillable.  </P> <P>IF the gods actually do have a physical representaion, (which I doubt they will this time around), they will be unkillable as well; (I hope).</P>

[Melchiah]

We need a nice visit from Cazic-Thule and Rallos Zek to shake things up.

[CrazedMut]

Personally, I couldn't give a crap what they said.I feel having Gods in the game can only add to the grandeur of the storylines, and giving it an epic feel that EQ2 needs to continue going forward. Seriously, Gods with amnesia? Kick-[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].<div></div>

[Lightbearer007]

If you listened to the inroduction when you first make a few character, where the woman narrating about the battle of defiance, the shattering, luclin exploding and all that, she says that the gods removed their influence from norrath.... or so it seemed. They did send out avatars but it never once said they would be leaving for good. I think its a good thing that they are bringing back the gods. CrazedMutha is right and I feel the same way. It will only make EQ2 better and make it feel like the Norrath we know and loved before. It will more than likely add new events to EQ2 that are needed to advance lore and to have fun live events. It will be interesting to see how they implement everything into this next expansion and the new adventure pack as well.<div></div>

[teddyboy4]

Cus, I don't think anyone is intentionally rubbing your face in anything, it's just that you were always kind of short with people regarding this, and a few other subjects. If anyone says anything about it, it's more in jest and in the vein of a gentle elbow in the ribs between friends than trying to hurt your feelings or anything.As for the issue of the gods returning being a total turn around.....well, it isn't. As we've been telling you all along when this subject came up, no where did it ever say the gods were gone, or they were removing themselves and/or thier influence forever. I always took it as they were withdrawing for a short time so the mortals wouldn't be so focused on taking them down, and would go back to fighting amongst themselves. But in the PoP storyline we find out that if the mortals ever truly stopped worshipping or revering the gods, then they would lose thier power, and of course the gods are aware of that so why would they do something like that? <div></div>

[Calthine]

I can't recall anything anywhere saying they were gone for good...  and there's been lots of hints and innuendo that they might be back, one day.

[FreddyF]

<DIV>Quellious continued. "We all agree the mortals have gained too much power, but there are non-destructive ways to correct this. There is also a way for us to regain our strength, <STRONG>though it means removing our influence from this world for a time</STRONG>. But if we all agree--including those who sit upon the greater wheel of Elemental Power--it could save us all."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>From the Tome of Destiny</DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Its just, well.. the game has only been out for 1 and a half years. That's still increadibly young for the game. You'd think they'd wait maybe 3 years so we could rediscover Norrath more before they went back to the gods.</DIV>

[Themaginator]

nobody said we are going to the planes at ALL anytime soon the gods are only back in essence not physically.  Where did you read this thing about meetin Zebuxoruk though interesting.<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV> <DIV> <HR> E3 06: Everquest II: The Fallen Dynasty Impressions</DIV> <DIV>Plot-lines from the original Everquest game reappear in this downloadable adventure pack for Everquest II.</DIV> <DIV>By <STRONG><A href="http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/index.php?user=MattRorie" target=_blank><FONT color=#99ccff>Matthew Rorie</FONT></A>, <A href="http://www.gamespot.com/" target=_blank><EM><FONT color=#99ccff>GameSpot</FONT></EM></A> </STRONG> <DIV>Posted May 11, 2006 7:27 pm PT</DIV></DIV> <DIV> <P>LOS ANGELES--Today at E3, Sony Online Entertainment was good enough to give us an in-depth preview of The Fallen Dynasties, their upcoming downloadable adventure pack for Everquest II. Since it's shipping in June, they had plenty of information to share on the title, and we're pleased to say it seems to be coming along well.</P> <P>SOE's intent with this expansion is to offer some tangible, outdoor space to experience, since the previous adventure packs mostly focused on providing more dungeons to explore. The art assets and some of the content were developed by SOGA, a Taiwanese development company, giving the expansion a distinctly Asian feel. Some of the character models are particularly noteworthy, especially the enemies that inhabit the final small-party raid dungeon. The Nizani'Oshu are creatures with snakelike lower bodies and female human upper bodies, and they look simply fantastic. Most of the other enemies in the game are similarly impressive, from the underwater giant statues with calm and angry faces on alternate sides of their head to the translucent water golems that back up the Nizani'Oshu.</P> <P>To give you a rundown on the numbers, there are going to be seven playable areas in the game, 30 new weapon models, and all of the content will be targeted towards high-end players, with enemies ranging in level from the low 50s all the way up to above 70 in the final dungeon. They also intend to throw in as many instances as they can fit. Since the game revolves around a hidden monk academy and the quests given there, they're looking into creating monk training quests that players will be able to use to advance their powers.</P> <P><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000>The plot of Fallen Dynasties revolves around a fallen half-god, half-man that last appeared in Everquest I. He's lost his memory, however, so you'll need to help him jog it by undertaking quests for him, which apparently culminates in the final raid dungeon, which will be one of the ultrachallenging experiences that SOE enjoys whipping out every once in a while.</FONT></STRONG> We weren't sure if we heard them correctly, but we could've sworn we heard them say that the maximum number of people allowed in the dungeon would be six, but that the content was being designed for a group of 12. So, yeah...it should be pretty hard. The entire dungeon isn't very large horizontally, but instead, you have to ascend to the top of a large tower, which is entirely open and connected with stone staircases. When you're done with one of the final raid bosses, the huge snakewoman Mistress Zhuani, you can actually jump off of her platform to fall to the entry room of the dungeon.</P> <P>Fallen Dynasties is currently slated to be released in June for download at $7.99, so keep an eye out for it.</P> <DIV><EM>-GameSpot</EM></DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV></DIV></DIV>

[FreddyF]

<DIV>While im not thrilled with the return of Zebuxoruk, im sure the plot line in Dynasty leads to the returning influence of the gods.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On another note, the Pirates of Gunthak being here opens up some speculation as to the state of Odus for its exspansion/ adventure pack. I find it interesting that Innurok (sp) could have been keeping an army formed under the assumed name they worshiped him as.</DIV>

[troodon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV><A href="http://www.allakhazam.com/e3/news/sdetail7350.html?story=7350" target=_blank>http://www.allakhazam.com/e3/news/sdetail7350.html?story=7350</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks to that E3 Interview, Its revealed that Echoes of Feydwere will introduce Tinkering as 2ndary tradeskill (I honestly never had any problem with the idea of Tinkering being added into the game. Just so long as it wasn't racially restricted to just gnomes), and the new Deity-Belief system is just the first part of the gods returning to Norrath.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>It's not like it's the only major thing they've changed since the game was in conception, or in beta, or after release.  They've removed the old death penalty, they've removed many access quests, removed the evolving character mechanic, completely changed the tutorial and IoR, revamped combat and are on their way to revamping tradeskilling (again).  Not to mention abandoning the whole "we aren't going to spread our 1-50 population too thin with expansions just like EQ1 did" thing they were intending on following.  Oops!</P> <P>I personally don't see the point in the way they're bringing gods back.  Assuming (yes, I know, quite an assumption) that since Faydwer is an all-level expansion the belief system will probably have its effects on all levels.  This is nonsensical to me, since to a new player it would seem as though the gods had never left.  If you can just start up the game, pick a god, and start getting miracles... the entire backstory is pointless.  I don't get it.  Getting this ability at a high level (say 50+ or something) would be one thing, but at start (which is an assumption) would be ridiculous.</P><p>Message Edited by troodon on <span class=date_text>05-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:41 PM</span>

[Y]

<div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div><div><strong><font color="#ff0000">The plot of Fallen Dynasties revolves around a fallen half-god, half-man that last appeared in Everquest I. He's lost his memory, however, so you'll need to help him jog it by undertaking quests for him, which apparently culminates in the final raid dungeon, which will be one of the ultrachallenging experiences that SOE enjoys whipping out every once in a while.</font></strong> <div><em>-GameSpot</em></div></div></div><hr></blockquote>I don't know about you, but that makes sense to me. Zebuxoruk is the main reason why the conflict between mortals and gods escalated in the first place. I can see how the fact that mortals are once again trying to learn his secrets would stir up the gods and cause them to try to prevent the same thing from happening again. It's their chance to mend the relationship between themselves and mortals. Ignoring Norrath any further while Zeb might be telling his secrets would likely only lead to lust for vengeance among mortals.</div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Yax wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR><BR> <DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000>The plot of Fallen Dynasties revolves around a fallen half-god, half-man that last appeared in Everquest I. He's lost his memory, however, so you'll need to help him jog it by undertaking quests for him, which apparently culminates in the final raid dungeon, which will be one of the ultrachallenging experiences that SOE enjoys whipping out every once in a while.</FONT></STRONG>  <DIV><EM>-GameSpot</EM></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I don't know about you, but that makes sense to me. Zebuxoruk is the main reason why the conflict between mortals and gods escalated in the first place. I can see how the fact that mortals are once again trying to learn his secrets would stir up the gods and cause them to try to prevent the same thing from happening again. It's their chance to mend the relationship between themselves and mortals. Ignoring Norrath any further while Zeb might be telling his secrets would likely only lead to lust for vengeance among mortals.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Hmm.. I don't think the mortals are still trying to learn his secrets. Many generations have passed by over the last 500 years, and more than enough events to get thier minds off what happened in the Plane of Knowledge. He has amnesia, and as far as we know, we just want to help him recover his memory.</P> <P>We'll have to wait and find out, but I don't think that trying to discover his secrets is once again the ultimate motive.</P>

[hoosierdaddy]

<P>This return of the gods reminds me in a lot of ways of the Avatar Trilogy, where the gods returned to the Forgotten Realms in the form of mortals like Elminster. If I remember correctly (it's been fifteen plus years since I read 'em), those gods were sort of out of the picture for awhile, then magically reappeared one day, so there's apparently some basis in fantasy fiction for the storyline SOE's "creating." </P> <P>Remember: <U>good authors borrow, the best authors steal</U>.</P> <P>-Kai</P>

[Homeskillet]

    <blockquote><hr>Not to mention abandoning the whole "we aren't going to spread our 1-50 population too thin with expansions just like EQ1 did" thing they were intending on following.  Oops!<hr></blockquote>Really? Last I saw as of Kingdom of Sky, then next expansion, almost a year later, does not increase the level cap, and is for content ranging from 1-70. So until something else comes out after that...ummm? Also on the whole gods returning thing. Comparing it to the Forgotton Realms storyline bears the assumption that all of a sudden the gods are going to be popping up walking around us. The return of the gods does not mean we will be romping in their planes again, but that their influence is returning to Norrath in a more powerful way.<div></div>

[troodon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Homeskillet wrote:<BR>    <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Not to mention abandoning the whole "we aren't going to spread our 1-50 population too thin with expansions just like EQ1 did" thing they were intending on following.  Oops! <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Really? Last I saw as of Kingdom of Sky, then next expansion, almost a year later, does not increase the level cap, and is for content ranging from 1-70. So until something else comes out after that...ummm? <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>.... I have no idea what you're talking about</P>

[Thax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Homeskillet wrote:<BR>    <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Not to mention abandoning the whole "we aren't going to spread our 1-50 population too thin with expansions just like EQ1 did" thing they were intending on following.  Oops! <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Really? Last I saw as of Kingdom of Sky, then next expansion, almost a year later, does not increase the level cap, and is for content ranging from 1-70. So until something else comes out after that...ummm? <BR><BR>Also on the whole gods returning thing. Comparing it to the Forgotton Realms storyline bears the assumption that all of a sudden the gods are going to be popping up walking around us. The return of the gods does not mean we will be romping in their planes again, but that their influence is returning to Norrath in a more powerful way.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Exactly.  The gods were not all accessible when Everquest first went live, in fact, there were no planes at the time, except for the plane of sky where guides/gms before cshome was contructed.  The planes of Fear, Hate, and Sky were all free additions early on in the game, and it was Velious before you could visit Growth (Tunare).  PoP opened up many other planes, but not all.  The fact is, that the deity system was in place far before you could actually visit all of the deities.  I think it will be a while before the planes are accessible again.  I do think that the first one available though, will be one that is still not available in EQ1 today...the Plane of Underfoot.  This will play in nicely with the dark elves in Neriak (who have been rumored to have taken over the underfoot) and/or Odus, where deep in the hole was rumored to be an entrance into the plane.  Who knows?  Maybe we'll get Fear back since the portal is still there, but I doubt it since it's in an instance.

[Renita_Serafim]

<DIV>I'd just like to point out that we already have our first alternate plane of existance in-game, the Obelisk of Lost Souls.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Saying that, I think that the planes that <EM>haven't </EM>leaked into Norrath like the Plane of Sky will remain sealed, just as the gods intended. They don't want mortals invading them again.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Astralmage on <span class=date_text>05-13-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:29 PM</span>

[ranger1]

Umm...did I hear Blackguard right in that video?  November 2006 for EoF?

[FreddyF]

Yes, its quite a ways away still. much can happen in that time, release date could even be pushed back.<div></div>

[TheManInTheBox]

<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">I am glad to see the belief system coming into place. It gives more definition to my character. Just out of curiosity though.. What about characters who are agnostic? Do they simply get left out of these miracles, or can they choose to be agnostic  and benefit from it in some form?</FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">I really don't expect to be pillaging the planes again, but I wouldn't mind a quest in which I would get to meet a god / avatar of a god.  But as for slaying gods, and stealing their phat lewtz. That's definitely not where I want the direction the story going. Maybe a quest reward or so from them in some form, but please... If I wanted to feel bigger than the gods I'd go back to EQ I where I have <STRONG><U>heard</U></STRONG> of people duoing Cazic-Thule in the Plane of Fear. Thats just silly... :smileytongue:</FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">If the gods do make a return in some form other than just "belief" </FONT><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">I am curious as to what Lucan will start preaching now? If I remember his statue speeches correctly. He is always rambling about how the gods left us and how they were false to begin with. That might put a damper in his "I'm the almighty supreme figure of Norrath" attitude.</FONT></P>

[Einsteinb]

<DIV>(Assuming they do actually go back and correct them) Lucan would probably incorporate it some way. I know my character has been using the gods as an enhancement to the ruling of Freeport. That is to say, the gods help the strong, we are already strong, the gods help us. It would probably be something along those lines. The gods help Freeport because they are allured by our own strength.</DIV>

[Thax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheManInTheBox wrote:<BR> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">I am glad to see the belief system coming into place. It gives more definition to my character. Just out of curiosity though.. What about characters who are agnostic? Do they simply get left out of these miracles, or can they choose to be agnostic  and benefit from it in some form?</FONT></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>It'd only make sense for those that are agnostic (if it's an option) be left out of the miracles.  If you chose not to follow any of the gods, then what is the source of the miracles if all others come from them?  In fact, I'm not even sure being agnostic will be an option, at least at first, but who knows.

[Tarkin-Wretch]

<DIV>as far as im concerned tinkering should remain gnome only.  its a gnome thing and always has been not just with eq.  having said that though im glad they didnt make alchemy shaman only.  i could care less about tinkering so it can go either.  its not big issue with me.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>im glad they are reintroducing a belief system but well see who is offered before we get too happy over it.  agnostic should be one but it should gain no benefits (miracle-wsie).  the advantage in eq was connected to aggro.  many enchanters were agnostic so their illusions could hide them from normally aggro mobs.  youre diety effected your faction.  a follower of Innoruuk had a much more difficult time getting around than an agnostic.  i suspect that agnostic will have some advantages.  im hoping the belief system also includes quests from your chosen diety.  this would prob prevent some people from being able to do quests of dieties, such as an Innoruuk follower not being able to do quests from Tunare.  Agnostic would be able to do them all maybe.  that certainly would be an advantage.  just an idea based on speculation =).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i think you are mistaken cusa.  i dont see any hypocrisy as has been pointed out.  your assumption that the gods were gone for good was wrong.  im not sure how you came to this conclusion considering the lore available to us.  you should have picked up on that or maybe you didnt want to.  i suspect this isnt a direction you wanted eq2 to go in but maybe im wrong.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i was under the impression that dynasty was coming out with eof but im wrong.  was dynasty a well planned adventure pack to slowly get us back into the mindframe of there being gods with zeb losing his memory or does it have nothing to do with the belief system introduction which we wont see for almost 6 months after dynasty releases?  in the interview it states he is half man half god which means he never did achieve godhood or it was stripped from him and one of the side effects is his amnesia.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I DO want to see the gods but I want them to give quests and interact with the world that way not as killable mobs. and now that i think of it, some of the quests they give should be the original epic weapons =).  i miss my epics.</DIV>

[Moorgard]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>But why the hipocrisy about the Gods returning to Norrath if the game was built and focused around them leaving us for good?</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>We absolutely never said the gods were gone for good. That was an assumption on your part. In truth, we've always intended for the influence of the gods to return in a significant way when the time was right.</P> <P>Note that I said "influence." Don't assume this means you'll see the gods strolling around or that you'll be running up and ganking them for loot. That would be presumptuous to say the least.</P>

[Raevin]

Heh.  Moorguard said ganking.

[Almeric_CoS]

<DIV>I'd certainly like to think that if the gods came back, they'd make themselves a little less accessible in any physical sense.  Having your home plane get invaded every day must get really annoying.</DIV>

[Articulas]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Moorgard wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>But why the hipocrisy about the Gods returning to Norrath if the game was built and focused around them leaving us for good?</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>We absolutely never said the gods were gone for good. That was an assumption on your part. In truth, we've always intended for the influence of the gods to return in a significant way when the time was right.</P> <P>Note that I said "influence." Don't assume this means you'll see the gods strolling around or that you'll be running up and ganking them for loot. That would be presumptuous to say the least.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Ummm hey boss, since when has anyone ganked a god? i remember EQLive's being pretty tough myself.<p>Message Edited by Articulas on <span class=date_text>05-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:06 PM</span>

[Renita_Serafim]

I'd expect the gods to show themselves in the mortal realms on at least one occasion soon, in a big way, just to say "The party's over, we're back."

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Articulas wrote:<BR> <BR>Ummm hey boss, since when has anyone ganked a god? i remember EQLive's being pretty tough myself. <P>Message Edited by Articulas on <SPAN class=date_text>05-15-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:06 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>For a very short time just up untill Plane of Hate and Plane of Fear both got revamped, Innoruuk and Cazic Thule were pretty easy to kill...

[Articulas]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Articulas wrote:<BR> <BR>Ummm hey boss, since when has anyone ganked a god? i remember EQLive's being pretty tough myself. <P>Message Edited by Articulas on <SPAN class=date_text>05-15-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:06 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>For a very short time just up untill Plane of Hate and Plane of Fear both got revamped, Innoruuk and Cazic Thule were pretty easy to kill...<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>yea, but even then i bet they weren't "Gankable" EQLive always took skill in a battle that big, easy or no. :smileywink: they might be gankable now though with all the level increases and the phat lewt, i dunno.

[Wilde_Night]

<DIV>If they do bring back the avatars of the gods I hope they are permanently unkillable NPC's.  No level con when you target them kind of unattackable.  And I really hope Innoruuk looks like a dark elf.  I really, really, really hate the old artwork of Innoruuk and how he looks like a twisted goblin.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Wilde_Night on <span class=date_text>05-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:05 AM</span>

[Ama]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Moorgard wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>But why the hipocrisy about the Gods returning to Norrath if the game was built and focused around them leaving us for good?</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>We absolutely never said the gods were gone for good. That was an assumption on your part. In truth, we've always intended for the influence of the gods to return in a significant way when the time was right.</P> <P>Note that I said "influence." Don't assume this means you'll see the gods strolling around or that you'll be running up and ganking them for loot. That would be presumptuous to say the least.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>You know you got a gamer on the inside when he starts refering to "Gankage" and "Ganking mobs for loot." :smileywink: .</P> <P>Anyways I do agree there cause it said as I remember the gods "Left Norrath" not meaning for good as moorguard states.   Though you do have to wonder if the other plains will open up as time goes by.  Planes of Knowledge, Power, Time, etc... however Kingdom of Sky still has a couple of mysteries I think we are overlooking.  </P> <P>I would deffinately love it *I have said it before <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> * if Cazic-Thule claimed the Island of Dread from EQOA as his own, using his power to bring it into KoS giving the island magical properties.   Island of Dread was a great place in EQOA because you cannot solo it and have to use great teamwork to overcome the obsticals there.  He it would be kewl if they ressurrected the long forgotten "Lord Chardith" the interdimensional destroyer of worlds.<BR></P>

[Articulas]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Wilde_Night wrote:<BR> <DIV>If they do bring back the avatars of the gods I hope they are permanently unkillable NPC's.  No level con when you target them kind of unattackable.  And I really hope Innoruuk looks like a dark elf.  I really, really, really hate the old artwork of Innoruuk and how he looks like a twisted goblin.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Wilde_Night on <SPAN class=date_text>05-16-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:05 AM</SPAN><BR> <P>----------------------------</P> <P>concerning innoruuk, didn't he create the dark elves by torturing and mutilating high elves? If that is accurate i don't think it would be an accurate portayl of him. </P> <P> </P> <P>As for the avatar's. I don't want them attackable either. IMO EQ2 couldn't do it justice, somehow an epic 4 of any level wouldn't do the fight justice compared to EQLive's 72 man truely epic raids. Norrathians have grown weak over the centuries indeed. unless they added a new feature by connecting two 24 man raid teams and making the mobs  epic Raid x2.</P></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Wilde_Night]

<P>Yes, perhaps his true form is the twisted, ugly goblin.  But I was referring to his Avatar, which I assume as a god he can have look whatever way he wants to.  And, traditionally, gods like to connect with their people by resembling something they are used to seeing.  <shrugs></P> <P>I always think of a taller than normal dark elf with jet black skin, long white hair, taloned hands and piercing red eyes when I think of Innoruuk.. but that is perhaps a 'romantified' view.  I am a girl after all.. <grins></P>

[Articulas]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Wilde_Night wrote:<BR> <P>Yes, perhaps his true form is the twisted, ugly goblin.  But I was referring to his Avatar, which I assume as a god he can have look whatever way he wants to.  And, traditionally, gods like to connect with their people by resembling something they are used to seeing.  <shrugs></P> <P>I always think of a taller than normal dark elf with jet black skin, long white hair, taloned hands and piercing red eyes when I think of Innoruuk.. but that is perhaps a 'romantified' view.  I am a girl after all.. <grins></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>True on the avatar account. and if he was given a Dark Elf apperance i would definatly like to see a more prestigious style Dark Elf.

[DMIstar]

<DIV><EM>yea, but even then i bet they weren't "Gankable" EQLive always took skill in a battle that big, easy or no. <IMG height=16 src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" width=16 border=0> they might be gankable now though with all the level increases and the phat lewt, i dunno.</EM> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cc0000>Cazic was the biggest one Ive seen get ganked... But sure Low Tier PoP ones did as well ... Ive Seen RZ get ganked as well ;P. yeah theres strats but once people have them down its pretty much easy from there, esp if done several times.. Cazic was the easiest cause it took a guild or raid force to work on clearing the zone before going for Cazic, Which gives ample time for another raid forces scout to keep track.. It wasnt New but most server boards set up rotations and had agreements on content like this, but some guilds remained FFA.</FONT> </DIV>

[Saroc_Luclin]

Hmm, I'd say Vallon Zek were ganked the most thouhg. Even in PoP/GoD era, 1 skilled group could take him down fairly easily. Most of the rest though remain a challenge to this day pretty much.   <div></div>

[TheManInTheBox]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Thax wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheManInTheBox wrote:<BR> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">I am glad to see the belief system coming into place. It gives more definition to my character. Just out of curiosity though.. What about characters who are agnostic? Do they simply get left out of these miracles, or can they choose to be agnostic  and benefit from it in some form?</FONT></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>It'd only make sense for those that are agnostic (if it's an option) be left out of the miracles.  If you chose not to follow any of the gods, then what is the source of the miracles if all others come from them?  In fact, I'm not even sure being agnostic will be an option, at least at first, but who knows.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">I believe we've brought up the discussion of miracles being performed without the gods before. </FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">For example paladins/templars/shadow knights/inquisitors all having their abilities even without the god's presence/influence. <U>If</U> I <U>remember</U> correctly. It was commonly believed we were drawing on something from ourselves rather than a divine power.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">I was just pondering the idea of agnostic characters benefiting in their own form of "miracles" by drawing on their own inner strength or powers. I myself am not going to be agnostic but... I can already hear complaints from players who don't want to follow a god that people who have miracles and they don't as unfair/unbalancing. </FONT><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">As foolish as it sounds, you know its going to happen. :smileyindifferent: </FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">But then again.. I have no idea how the miracles will work with the belief system so they might not be that unbalancing at all..</FONT></P>

[Diern]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Articulas wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Wilde_Night wrote:<BR> <P>Yes, perhaps his true form is the twisted, ugly goblin.  But I was referring to his Avatar, which I assume as a god he can have look whatever way he wants to.  And, traditionally, gods like to connect with their people by resembling something they are used to seeing.  <shrugs></P> <P>I always think of a taller than normal dark elf with jet black skin, long white hair, taloned hands and piercing red eyes when I think of Innoruuk.. but that is perhaps a 'romantified' view.  I am a girl after all.. <grins></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>True on the avatar account. and if he was given a Dark Elf apperance i would definatly like to see a more prestigious style Dark Elf.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Look up the "Champions of Norrath" series of games. Innoruuk looks nothing like the "twisted goblin" he is in EQLIVE. More of a  shadowknightish, demonic look. I think. Lets hope sony comes up with a cool new look for the prince of hate. But according to the lore i dont think he should look like a Dark Elf either.

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>I just want to see Quellious. I wanna see a young 12 year old girl wearing a white robe that emanated light from within, just as she is most commonly portrayed as. Seeing as Fallen Dynasty is introducing Elderly and Children models, this wouldn't be impossible.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It would be awesome if Innoruuk took on his Champions of Norrath appearance. That appearance kicks so much butt! And he was voiced by well known Hollywood Voice Actor, Tony Jay.</DIV>

[Kindayr]

<DIV>Speaking of Voices for gods.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Cate Blanchett - Tunare</DIV> <DIV>Russel Crowe - Mithaniel Marr</DIV> <DIV>Jon Heder or Helmut Bakaitis (The Architect) - Zebuxoruk</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Only ones I can think of. lol.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Should have a competition to see who can come up with the best ones <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Ishbu]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Moorgard wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>But why the hipocrisy about the Gods returning to Norrath if the game was built and focused around them leaving us for good?</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>We absolutely never said the gods were gone for good. That was an assumption on your part. In truth, we've always intended for the influence of the gods to return in a significant way when the time was right.</P> <P>Note that I said "influence." Don't assume this means you'll see the gods strolling around or that you'll be running up and ganking them for loot. That would be presumptuous to say the least.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>So your saying I shouldnt hold my breath for a Planes of Power eq2 style? <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Trepan]

<blockquote><hr>Kindayr wrote:<div>Speaking of Voices for gods.</div> <hr></blockquote> <div>Sean Connery - Mithaniel Marr Steve Buschemi - Bristlebane David Warner - Bertoxulous Hulk Hogan - Rallos Zek Keanu Reaves - Zebuxoruk </div> <div> </div> <div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Trepan wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kindayr wrote:<BR> <DIV>Speaking of Voices for gods.</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Sean Connery - Mithaniel Marr<BR>Steve Buschemi - Bristlebane<BR>David Warner - Bertoxulous<BR>Hulk Hogan - Rallos Zek<BR>Keanu Reaves - Zebuxoruk<BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>... woah....</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>Seriously though, Sean Connery as Mith Marr? Sorry. If he was still James Bond back in the 1960's, sure, but his.... how shall I say... "Experienced" voice these days would not be fitting for the God of Valor.</P>

[Madboy]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Moorgard wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Cusashorn wrote: <div>But why the hipocrisy about the Gods returning to Norrath if the game was built and focused around them leaving us for good?</div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>We absolutely never said the gods were gone for good. That was an assumption on your part. In truth, we've always intended for the influence of the gods to return in a significant way when the time was right.</p> <p>Note that I said "influence." Don't assume this means you'll see the gods strolling around or that you'll be running up and ganking them for loot. That would be presumptuous to say the least.</p><hr></blockquote><joking>Great now the Devs are going to stealth nerf our ability to God Gank, quite frankly I've had enough of this!/petiton</joking><a href="message?board.id=stat&message.id=292" target="_blank"><b><font color="#ffcc00">Live Update #25</font></b></a> (May 33, 200X) - Powerful adventurers will now be able to gank gods more easily.</div><p>Message Edited by Madboy81 on <span class=date_text>05-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:30 PM</span>

[dragontamer619]

<DIV>I thought I read something a long time ago saying that EQ2 would not ever have the Planes of Power in it.  I think it was from an interview.  I'll go do some research about it, if I find anything supporting what I think I'll post it.  :smileywink:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, the diety choosing.  Would be be based on your race or your class?  I'm an Ogre Templar.  LOL.  I would so confused trying to figure out which god to call upon for help.  I'd be healing the mobs and smiting my friends if Rallos Zek had anything to say about it.  <EM>How's that for a miracle, </EM>that's what I'd hear him say as he laughs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am really interested in how the diety system will work.  Especially for oddball class/race combos.  Froglok + Necromancer = out of luck.  I have one of those too.  :smileysurprised:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> dragontamer619 wrote:<BR> <DIV>I thought I read something a long time ago saying that EQ2 would not ever have the Planes of Power in it.  I think it was from an interview.  I'll go do some research about it, if I find anything supporting what I think I'll post it.  :smileywink:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, the diety choosing.  Would be be based on your race or your class?  I'm an Ogre Templar.  LOL.  I would so confused trying to figure out which god to call upon for help.  I'd be healing the mobs and smiting my friends if Rallos Zek had anything to say about it.  <EM>How's that for a miracle, </EM>that's what I'd hear him say as he laughs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am really interested in how the diety system will work.  Especially for oddball class/race combos.  Froglok + Necromancer = out of luck.  I have one of those too.  :smileysurprised:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Innoruuk.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>I know I'm the last person who should be preaching this but...</P> <P> </P> <P>A while back in EQlive, the Trolls took over Gukta and rebuilt thier city of Grobb (not that there's anything that needed to be rebuilt...)</P> <P>The Frogloks now live in Rathe Mountains, and some of them ended up getting cursed by Innoruuk and turned evil. There are now Froglok Warriors, Rogues, Necromancers, Shadowknights, and probably Wizards and Shaman living side by side, in peace, with the Froglok Warriors, Paladins, Clerics, Wizards, and Shamans of Mithanial Marr. They both live in the same encampment, and neither side really seems to mind the other. They just live in peace because they're still frogloks.</P> <P> </P> <P>While that doesn't apply to EQ2, the fact that Froglok Necromancers, Rogues, and Shadowknights have inhabited the lower regions of Guk since Everquest first started, does.</P>

[Zabjade]

<font color="#66ff00" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">Meep! I have no idea where I camped my old froggy Cleric in EQ1 or if it is still around my sister may have deleted him or one of her alts.</font> <div></div>

[Renita_Serafim]

Keanu Reeves as Zebuxoruk, how appropriate. *laughs*<p>Message Edited by Astralmage on <span class=date_text>05-17-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:44 PM</span>

[troodon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Trepan wrote:<BR><BR> <DIV>Steve Buschemi - Bristlebane<BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Hell yeah<BR>

[IrishWonder]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kindayr wrote:<BR> <DIV>Speaking of Voices for gods.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jon Heder or Helmut Bakaitis (The Architect) - Zebuxoruk</DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <P></P> <P>Haha!</P> <P>"What... you mean after all those books I left, it still took you guys that long to get into the Planes... and on top of that you got our world destroyed and lost my memory? Freakin' IDIOTS! GOODDD!"</P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>

[Eepop]

Bertoxxulous - Andy Serkis Brell Serilis   - John Rhyss Davies Bristlebane  - Steve Buscemi Cazic-Thule - Gary Oldman Erollisi Marr - Charlize Theron Innoruuk - Guy Pearce Karana - Albert Finney Mithaniel Marr - Tom Hanks Prexus - Ed Harris Quellious - Dakota Fanning Rallos Zek - The Rock Rodcet Nife - Christian Bale Solusek Ro - Johnny Depp The Tribunal - John Malcovich Tunare - Cate Blanchett Veeshan - Queen Latifah Saryn - Helena Bonham Carter And now another fun game...how much would all that cost? <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span><div></div>

[Trepan]

<div><blockquote><hr>Eepop wrote: Mithaniel Marr - Tom Hanks Saryn - Helena Bonham Carter<font color="#ffffcc">Until they let us kill the gods again... please god no, not these two.  Ever.  8-)</font> The Tribunal - John Malcovich<font color="#ffffcc">Ahaha!  This is my favorite yet.  Malcovich Malcovich Malcovich!   /rofl</font><span></span><div></div><hr></blockquote></div>

[ArdenFarmarin]

<div><blockquote><hr>Moorgard wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Cusashorn wrote: <div>But why the hipocrisy about the Gods returning to Norrath if the game was built and focused around them leaving us for good?</div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>We absolutely never said the gods were gone for good. That was an assumption on your part. In truth, we've always intended for the influence of the gods to return in a significant way when the time was right.</p> <p>Note that I said "influence." Don't assume this means you'll see the gods strolling around or that you'll be running up and ganking them for loot. That would be presumptuous to say the least.</p><hr></blockquote>Awwww.  I loved how one of the Gods in EQ1 would gank players who asked him about "Phawt Loot!"  That was a hoot!  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Trepan]

He wasn't a god - he was just a crazy halfing with a hatred of l33t speak.Hell of a left hook, though.<div></div>

[Mordak]

<blockquote><hr>Articulas wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Moorgard wrote: <div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Cusashorn wrote: <div>But why the hipocrisy about the Gods returning to Norrath if the game was built and focused around them leaving us for good?</div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>We absolutely never said the gods were gone for good. That was an assumption on your part. In truth, we've always intended for the influence of the gods to return in a significant way when the time was right.</p> <p>Note that I said "influence." Don't assume this means you'll see the gods strolling around or that you'll be running up and ganking them for loot. That would be presumptuous to say the least.</p> <hr> </blockquote>Ummm hey boss, since when has anyone ganked a god? i remember EQLive's being pretty tough myself.<p>Message Edited by Articulas on <span class="date_text">05-15-2006</span> <span class="time_text">03:06 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>that's because you didn't play a necro in EQ1.....duh!<div></div>

[WarShe]

<DIV>Some voices Sony has used for EQ games in the past are...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>·         Fairuza Balk (American History X, The Craft, The Waterboy)</DIV> <DIV>·         Claudia Black (Farscape, Pitch Black)</DIV> <DIV>·         Kevin Conroy (Batman: The Animated Series, Justice League)</DIV> <DIV>·         John Rhys-Davies (Lord of The Rings, Raiders of the Lost Ark)</DIV> <DIV>·         Hudson Leick (Xena: Warrior Princess)</DIV> <DIV>·         Kate Mulgrew (Star Trek: Voyager, Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins)</DIV> <DIV>·         Ron Perlman (Hellboy, Enemy at the Gates, Beauty & The Beast)</DIV> <DIV>·         Katey Sagal (8 Simple Rules For Dating my Teenage Daughter, Futurama, Married…With Children)</DIV> <DIV>·         Dwight Schultz (Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Voyager, The A-Team)</DIV> <DIV>·         Cree Summer (Rugrats Go Wild!, A Different World)</DIV> <DIV>·         Michael T. Weiss (The Pretender)<BR></DIV><p>Message Edited by WarSheol on <span class=date_text>05-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:45 PM</span>

[Wilde_Night]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Eepop wrote:<BR><BR>Quellious - Dakota Fanning<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Must... not.. kill.  Hate... little... girl.... ruins.. all.. movies... gah!<BR>

[Tallika_Runwithbears]

<div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Trepan wrote: <blockquote> <hr> Kindayr wrote: <div>Speaking of Voices for gods.</div> <hr> </blockquote> <div>Sean Connery - Mithaniel MarrSteve Buschemi - BristlebaneDavid Warner - BertoxulousHulk Hogan - Rallos ZekKeanu Reaves - Zebuxoruk</div> <div> </div> <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>... woah....</p> <p>Seriously though, Sean Connery as Mith Marr? Sorry. If he was still James Bond back in the 1960's, sure, but his.... how shall I say... "Experienced" voice these days would not be fitting for the God of Valor.</p><hr></blockquote>Sean Connery has played King Arthur, King Richard, The Green Knight and Juan Sanchez Villa-Lobos Ramirez... and many others.  i'm sure he's got plenty of practice doing period dialog...</div>

[KnightOfTheWo]

Over on the Fallen Dynasty adventure pack boards one of the developers just made an interesting post which has a tidbit on this topic...not sure how much "spoiler" material should or should not be posted here, but you all might enjoy it. <span>:smileyhappy:</span><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="690500817-15052006"></span></font><div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tallika_Runwithbears wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Trepan wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kindayr wrote:<BR> <DIV>Speaking of Voices for gods.</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Sean Connery - Mithaniel Marr<BR>Steve Buschemi - Bristlebane<BR>David Warner - Bertoxulous<BR>Hulk Hogan - Rallos Zek<BR>Keanu Reaves - Zebuxoruk<BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>... woah....</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>Seriously though, Sean Connery as Mith Marr? Sorry. If he was still James Bond back in the 1960's, sure, but his.... how shall I say... "Experienced" voice these days would not be fitting for the God of Valor.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Sean Connery has played King Arthur, King Richard, The Green Knight and Juan Sanchez Villa-Lobos Ramirez... and many others.  i'm sure he's got plenty of practice doing period dialog...<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>All of those were long before his voice took a turn for the elderly in 2001.

[Kindayr]

<DIV>I actually thought of Keanu Reeves for Zebuxoruk, but too young.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jon Heder's Napolean Dynamite's Expression would be perfect for Zeb, but I still think the Architect would do an awesome job, just have to do the same thing over again accept in robes with a staff hah.</DIV>

[Ishnar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Articulas wrote:<BR> <BR><BR>Ummm hey boss, since when has anyone ganked a god? i remember EQLive's being pretty tough myself. <P>Message Edited by Articulas on <SPAN class=date_text>05-15-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:06 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>In eqlive, with the level increases.  Some of the gods are now soloable.

[Ama]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Eepop wrote:<BR>Bertoxxulous - Andy Serkis<BR>Brell Serilis   - John Rhyss Davies<BR>Bristlebane  - Steve Buscemi<BR>Cazic-Thule - Gary Oldman<BR>Erollisi Marr - Charlize Theron<BR>Innoruuk - Guy Pearce<BR>Karana - Albert Finney<BR>Mithaniel Marr - Tom Hanks<BR>Prexus - Ed Harris<BR>Quellious - Dakota Fanning<BR>Rallos Zek - The Rock<BR>Rodcet Nife - Christian Bale<BR>Solusek Ro - Johnny Depp<BR>The Tribunal - John Malcovich<BR>Tunare - Cate Blanchett<BR>Veeshan - Queen Latifah<BR>Saryn - Helena Bonham Carter<BR><BR>And now another fun game...how much would all that cost? <SPAN>:smileyvery-happy:</SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I'll take a stab at this and see what you all think of my recommendations for voice acting.  Only problem is I only know about some of the gods and would have to really think about others.</P> <P>Bertoxxulous - Christopher Walkins</P> <P>Brell Serilis  - Guy who played the dwarf in Lord of the Rings *Had a good voice* </P> <P>Bristlebane-George Clouny or Mike Myers *why not*</P> <P>Cazic-Thule - Anthony Hopkins *Guy who played Hanable Lecter* </P> <P> Erollisi Marr - Cameron Diaze *Has a nice voice if you liked shrek*</P> <P>Innoruuk - James Earl Jones *Darth Vader Himself*</P> <P>Karana - Person who played the wizard in Lord of the Rings *Good wizard style voice*</P> <P>Mithaniel Marr - Tough call between Pierce Brosnan and Mel Gibson</P> <P> Prexus - Arnold Schwartzenager *ok voice doing Mr. Freeze*</P> <P>Quellious - No clue about this one maybe the woman who played Fiona's Mother from Shrek 2 /shrug</P> <P>Rallos Zek - The Rock no arguement here I say The Rock or Vin Disel</P> <P>Rodcet Nife - No clue here as well</P> <P>Solusek Ro - Close call between Nicolas Cage or John Travolta.  </P> <P>The Tribunal - Same Deal Nicolas Cage or John Travolta which ever doesn't get the part of Solusek Ro</P> <P>Tunare - Milla Jovovich *pretty good in Resident Evil the 1st one not 2nd*</P> <P>Veeshan - Would say a weird Female voice augmented in monster tone or the woman that played Dana Skully on the X files :smileyindifferent:</P> <P> </P> <P>Anyways thats who I would pick for voice and the question is how much would it cost *cha ching*<BR></P><p>Message Edited by Amana on <span class=date_text>05-17-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:08 PM</span>

[Diern]

<P>Innoruuk = Doug Bradley (Pinhead from Hell Raiser, would be perfect)</P> <P>Saryn = Monica Belluci (but only cause i fancy her :smileyvery-happy<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[Kindayr]

<DIV><FONT color=#ff3300></FONT><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Amana wrote:<BR> <BR> <P>I'll take a stab at this and see what you all think of my recommendations for voice acting.  Only problem is I only know about some of the gods and would have to really think about others.</P> <P>Bertoxxulous - Christopher Walkins</P> <P><FONT color=#ff3300>Eeh, little too happy.</FONT></P> <P>Brell Serilis  - Guy who played the dwarf in Lord of the Rings *Had a good voice* </P> <P><FONT color=#ff3300>This one is pretty good also.</FONT></P> <P>Bristlebane-George Clouny or Mike Myers *why not*</P> <P><FONT color=#ff3300>I actually think Robin Williams would be perfect.</FONT></P> <P>Cazic-Thule - Anthony Hopkins *Guy who played Hanable Lecter* </P> <P><FONT color=#ff3300>Cazic-Thule has to be darker, and intimidating voice. Sir Anthony Hopkins would be a good Innoruuk or Bertox.</FONT></P> <P>Erollisi Marr - Cameron Diaze *Has a nice voice if you liked shrek*</P> <P>Innoruuk - James Earl Jones *Darth Vader Himself*</P> <P><FONT color=#ff3300>This would be a better Cazic-Thule.</FONT></P> <P>Karana - Person who played the wizard in Lord of the Rings *Good wizard style voice*</P> <P><FONT color=#ff3300> Richard Harris (R.I.P.) Ian McKellan is too optimistic imho.</FONT></P> <P>Mithaniel Marr - Tough call between Pierce Brosnan and Mel Gibson</P> <P><FONT color=#ff3300>Mel Gibson could do a good job. Pierce's voice is too clean.</FONT></P> <P> Prexus - Arnold Schwartzenager *ok voice doing Mr. Freeze*</P> <P><FONT color=#ff3300><img src="/smilies/1cfd6e2a9a2c0cf8e74b49b35e2e46c7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> .. </FONT></P> <P>Quellious - No clue about this one maybe the woman who played Fiona's Mother from Shrek 2 /shrug</P> <P><FONT color=#ff3300>Dakota Fanning would be ok, but I want to kill her. </FONT></P> <P>Rallos Zek - The Rock no arguement here I say The Rock or Vin Disel</P> <P><FONT color=#ff3300>Not Dark and deciesive enough, they have the brawny voice but not the sneaky.</FONT></P> <P>Rodcet Nife - No clue here as well</P> <P>Solusek Ro - Close call between Nicolas Cage or John Travolta.  </P> <P>The Tribunal - Same Deal Nicolas Cage or John Travolta which ever doesn't get the part of Solusek Ro</P> <P><FONT color=#ff3300>It'd be an echoed voice, since they are a council. Keanu Reeves (no joke), his emotionless voice could work. Just contrast the deep.</FONT></P> <P>Tunare - Milla Jovovich *pretty good in Resident Evil the 1st one not 2nd*</P> <P><FONT color=#ff3300>She's too manly imho. Someone with a soft voice needs to be them.</FONT></P> <P>Veeshan - Would say a weird Female voice augmented in monster tone or the woman that played Dana Skully on the X files :smileyindifferent:</P> <P> </P> <P>Anyways thats who I would pick for voice and the question is how much would it cost *cha ching*<BR></P> <P>Message Edited by Amana on <SPAN class=date_text>05-17-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>04:08 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV>

[Madboy]

<div></div><div></div><div><blockquote><hr>WarSheol wrote:<div>Some voices Sony has used for EQ games in the past are...</div> <div> </div> <div>·         Fairuza Balk (American History X, The Craft, The Waterboy)</div> <div>·         Claudia Black (Farscape, Pitch Black)</div> <div>·         Kevin Conroy (Batman: The Animated Series, Justice League)</div> <div>·         John Rhys-Davies (Lord of The Rings, Raiders of the Lost Ark)</div> <div>·         Hudson Leick (Xena: Warrior Princess)</div> <div>·         Kate Mulgrew (Star Trek: Voyager, Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins)</div> <div>·         Ron Perlman (Hellboy, Enemy at the Gates, Beauty & The Beast)</div> <div>·         Katey Sagal (8 Simple Rules For Dating my Teenage Daughter, Futurama, Married…With Children)</div> <div>·         Dwight Schultz (Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Voyager, The A-Team)</div> <div>·         Cree Summer (Rugrats Go Wild!, A Different World)</div> <div>·         Michael T. Weiss (The Pretender)</div><p>Message Edited by WarSheol on <span class="date_text">05-16-2006</span> <span class="time_text">02:45 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Let's not forget Richard Horvitz otherwise known as the mighty Irken Invader Zim!!!<b><a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0395777/" target=_blank>Zim</a></b>: Fool! You think I would share the cure with you? I'll find a cure and keep it all to myself and then watch you transform more and more into what you really are deep down in your heart! <b><a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0075724/" target=_blank>Dib</a></b>: Deep down I'm bologna? <b><a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0395777/" target=_blank>Zim</a></b>: ...yes. <b><a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0075724/" target=_blank>Dib</a></b>: That's just dumb. <b><a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0395777/" target=_blank>Zim</a></b>: Dumb like a moose, Dib. Dumb like a moose!<a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0567852/" target="_blank"> </a></div><p>Message Edited by Madboy81 on <span class="date_text">05-17-2006</span> <span class="time_text">07:35 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Madboy81 on <span class=date_text>05-17-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:38 PM</span>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kindayr wrote:<BR> <DIV><FONT color=#ff3300></FONT><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Karana - Person who played the wizard in Lord of the Rings *Good wizard style voice*</P> <P><FONT color=#ff3300> Richard Harris (R.I.P.) Ian McKellan is too optimistic imho.</FONT></P> <P>Veeshan - Would say a weird Female voice augmented in monster tone or the woman that played Dana Skully on the X files :smileyindifferent:</P></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Dont' just an actor's acting ability just by one role. he does play Magneto in X-men, and that character is deffinitly a villain.</P> <P>As for Gillian Anderson as Veeshan, I think it would be perfect for her. Have you seen the movie Princess Mononoke? She voiced the mother wolf in that movie, and it was perfect for that character. (and if you haven't seen it, WHY NOT!?)</P> <P>Anyway, my choice of voice actors would be more of the Profesional kind. The actors from Bang Zoom entertainment and Ani-Maze Studios in particular. A few of them are already in EQ2.</P> <P> </P> <P>Erollisi Marr: Mary Elizabeth McGlynn (Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell. Her voice is an act of god itself. Have you ever heard her sing or act before? Her voice is very powerful. Very voluptuous. Very sexy. Very sexy.</P> <P>Mithanial Marr: Whoever voiced Mithanial Marr in Champions of Norrath: Return to Arms.</P> <P>Rallos Zek: Whoever voiced Rallos Zek in Champions of Norrath: Return to Arms.</P> <P>Cazic Thule: Whoever voiced Cazic Thule in Champions of Norrath: Return to Arms.</P> <P>Bertoxxulous: Whoever voiced Bertoxxulous in Champions of Norrath: Return to Arms.</P> <P>Innoruuk: Tony Jay (Innoruuk from Champions of Norrath.)</P> <P>Solusek Ro: Steve Blum (this man IS A GOD among voice acting. He's most well known for his role as Spike Spiegal from Cowboy Bebop. If you want to hear his voice, go hail Tobias Vreldig at Thundermist Village in the Thundering Steppes. He sounds perfect for Solusek Ro, the God of the Sun, a god who won't hesitate to take advantage of an opportunity to gain power whenever he sees one.)</P> <P>Quellious: Sherry Lynn (Sasami from Tenchi Muyo) or Stephanie Sheh (Hinata Hyuuga from Naruto). Quellious is a 12 year old girl, so she should have a calm, tranquil, 12 year old voice to reflect it.</P> <P>Karana: William Knight (Chief Aramaki from Ghost in the Shell)</P> <P>Tunare: Vanessa Marshall (Firiona Vie from Champions of Norrath and CoN: Return to Arms. Her voice is very calm and reserved. I think Tunare should reflect that. Vanessa is cast in Everquest 2 as Athwyn Shaedon, Mora Oshus, Verona, Seamist Fairy Faellia, Fairy Nerina, and many others.) </P> <P>Bristlebane: Dave Whittenberg (I think he would be perfect with his voice and attitude of Sora from .Hack//SIGN.)</P> <P>Brell Sirilis... hmm yeah, I agree. John Rhys-Davies would be perfect. He did play Gimli in Lord of the Rings. What better voice for a dwarf than that of a dwarf?</P> <P> </P> <P>I don't care to list the other gods at the moment.</P>

[troodon]

The two guys who sang all those Bud Light commercials for radio (Real American Heroes and Real Men of Genius) need to voice <EM>something</EM> in this game.  A god's as good as anything.

[Zabjade]

<font color="#66ff00"><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">The Nameless=Pactrck Stewart, Michelle Phifer, Mel Gibson, James Earl Jones and Juniper Lee's Voice actress. Either all at once or in tandum. </font></font></font><div></div>

[Trepan]

<div></div>For some reason I want to cast Gilbert Godfried as the Nameless.Since he never talks, it'd be perfect.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Trepan on <span class=date_text>05-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:30 AM</span>

[Ama]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zabjade wrote:<BR><FONT color=#66ff00><FONT size=2><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">The Nameless=Pactrck Stewart, Michelle Phifer, Mel Gibson, James Earl Jones and Juniper Lee's Voice actress. Either all at once or in tandum.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Don't know who could voice The Nameless the best and it would be a tough call implementing him/her/it into the movie.  I mean it has no physical form that we can comprehend correct? </P> <P>There is only one actor that I can think of that I may have missed that would work as Bertoxxul, Innoruk, or Cazic-Thule and would be the person that Voices Dark Side in Justice League Unlimited. </P> <P>I mean have you heard how that guy sounds when he gets it right.  He can be pretty freakin creepy when you get down to it.  I also liked the voice actor that did Doomsday when they introduced him. </P>

[Sartredes]

<P>Innorruuk = Mark Hamill using his "Joker" voice from Batman the animated series.</P>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sartredes wrote:<BR> <P>Innorruuk = Mark Hamill using his "Joker" voice from Batman the animated series.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Joker's voice doesn't work with Innoruuk, the Prince of Hate. If Innoruuk was Bristlebane, yes.

[Kindayr]

<P>Ian McKellan is still too happy. Even in Da Vinci Code he still has that dark but good meaning voice, but it isn't wise, unlike what I find Karana is.</P> <P>Richard Harris though had that soft, wise, but could-be dark voice. It was optimistic and pessimistic at the same time. </P> <P> </P> <P>Now a mix of the two, now that'd be a super-voice.<BR></P>

[Wilde_Night]

<DIV>Bristlebane... Jason Mewes? (AKA 'Jay' of Jay and Silent Bob fame)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>PS - Don't mind me. Just stirring the pot.</DIV>

[Ama]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sartredes wrote:<BR> <P>Innorruuk = Mark Hamill using his "Joker" voice from Batman the animated series.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Joker's voice doesn't work with Innoruuk, the Prince of Hate. If Innoruuk was Bristlebane, yes.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Hmm tossing some thoughts out there Innorruuk=Guy who does Alucard in "Hellsing" anime series or the guy who does Incognito.  That guy who does Incognito would be a sweet voice for Innorruuk and the guy who does Alucard would be perfect for Mithaniel Marr with his commanding voice style.</P> <P>That or the guy who does the Beowulf creature in Devil May Cry 3.  That was pretty wicked if I had to say anything about it and the guy who voices jester would be perfect for Bristle Bane.</P><p>Message Edited by Amana on <span class=date_text>05-21-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:15 PM</span>

[Xarov]

<DIV>James Earl Jones as Mithaniel Marr</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Orson Wells as Rallos Zek ( with the voice he used for the big planet in transformers the movie ) </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Leonard Nimoy as Solusek Ro ( again with the voice he used for Galvatron in transformer movie )</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Patrick Stuart as Karana</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Russel Crowe as Vallon Zek</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Michael Dorn as Tallon Zek</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Angelina Jolie as Erelosi Marr </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>hmmm let me think of somemore later on in the thread </DIV>