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[DMIstar]

<DIV>Wherent the Iksar Ships Traveling to Feydwer to flee kunark ? or was that another island ?</DIV>

[iceriven2]

The Iksar fleet was heading to faydwer to conquer it. It was an invasion. It just so happened the elements went out of wack and or luclin finally went boom...can't remember which one and the fleet mostly sank and the survivers ended up in freeport.

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Yep Yep. Most of the race went extinct and probably the only thing that's left of the Iksar race are in Freeport...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Or at least, when Kunark gets discovered again, I don't expect to see great armies of Iksar waiting for us..</DIV>

[DMIstar]

<DIV>looking around on it, I Dont think there will be an army there as to say but, Fround sounds of it I think there are surviors over there. .will be interesting .. Keep in mind out all the races .. its hard to drown an iksar ;P </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I could see a good amount of them scattered, will be interesting to find out <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV>

[troodon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Yep Yep. Most of the race went extinct and probably the only thing that's left of the Iksar race are in Freeport...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Or at least, when Kunark gets discovered again, I don't expect to see great armies of Iksar waiting for us..</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>How quickly we forget:</P> <P>"As for the Swifttail Caste, I know where they are and what they are up to in the wilds of Kunark. They are an order that has overcome many hardships and they now face their greatest threat."  -- so sayeth the great Vhalen</P>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>I said GREAT ARMIES.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Meaning I don't expect to see much beyond a few tribes or settlements.</DIV>

[Creppie]

<div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>I said GREAT ARMIES.</div> <div> </div> <div>Meaning I don't expect to see much beyond a few tribes or settlements.</div><hr></blockquote>Wishfull thinking <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span>  We all know that the only thing that stands between Dragonkind taking over Norath are the Iksar.  Who else would have so much hate and fury built up but us?  Over in Kunark you will find that the Iksar have been far from idle.  Who is to say that the Greenmist that saved Freeport didn't also in fact save the Iksar again as well?  Only time and $39.99 will tell <span>:smileytongue:</span></div>

[Dreadfie]

<div><blockquote><hr>Creppie wrote:<div>Who else would have so much hate and fury built up but us?  Over in Kunark you will find that the Iksar have been far from idle. <span></span></div><hr></blockquote>One word: SarnaksI don't think the Sarnaks were idle while the iksar were busy drowning in the Ocean of Tears. In EQ1, Chardok and the Brood of Dizok were looking for such an event so that they could attack the iksar. The sarnak were building their forces and slowing gaining territory in Kunark for only one purpose: to become the dominate race of the continent.The iksar might hate the dragons (and shissar), but the sarnaks hate the iksar just as much if not more. Don't think that the sarnaks waiting patiently while the iksar scrambled to recover from the fleet disaster <i>and</i> aftermath of the Shattering.The sarnak are part dragon & part iksar, so they might have weathered the Shattering better than most races and their hatred and resentment towards the iksar would be motivation enough to gain strength fast seeing the weakened state of the iksar.</div>

[Creppie]

<div><blockquote><hr>iceriven2 wrote:The Iksar fleet was heading to faydwer to conquer it. It was an invasion. It just so happened the elements went out of wack and or luclin finally went boom...can't remember which one and the fleet mostly sank and the survivers ended up in freeport.<hr></blockquote>From another post, someone had said it was an expeditionary force.  While being large, was hardly enough to cripple the empire.I do recall a bit of text from the History of the Iksar were under attack around the same time that Freeport was.  Now since they didn't come to anyones aid against the Rallosians, no one would come to the Iksars aid, which was fine by them.   After that point I think is pure speculation, but I have confidence in my fellow Iksar.</div>

[Vhalen]

<P>Obviously, some of you iksar folke are interested in military history. I can help you out a bit, just a bit. Here is some information on that expeditionary force that departed Kunark so long ago.</P> <P>The Iron Guard<BR>Faction Leader: Commander Vygan<BR>Headquarters: Mariner’s Hold, Visk<BR>The Iron Guard is the primary expeditionary force of the Cabilisian Empire. This force's beliefs are passed down to all of the individual units that comprise the Iron Guard. The Iron Guard is filled with members skilled in a variety of skills to create a self-reliant fighting force that can operate in disjunction of Cabilis for extended periods of time. The common title that is given to all members of the Iron Guard is Mariner. The force's units are as follows:</P> <P>The Talons: The Talon Division is the true Mariners of the Iron Guard. Although all Divisions gain the title Mariner, the Talon Division is the true fighters or grunts of the Iron Guard.</P> <P>The Broods: The Brood Division is a relatively new addition to the Iron Guard. They are the mages that were trained in the Brood of Kotiz in Cabilis and then appointed by the emperor to the Iron Guard indefinitely. They have undertaken mariner training just as all divisions have.  </P> <P>The Diviners: The Diviner Division of the Iron Guard is the spiritual backbone of the unit. They fill the ranks of healers, undead slayers and the ever important shadowknights. The shadowknights and slayers are frequently assigned to Talon platoons into the wilderness and are formidable fighters in their own right.</P> <P>The War Hagglers: The War Hagglers are the tradesmen support for the Iron Guard. Without their craftsmen, smithies, chefs, etc. the Iron Guard could never hope to survive on its own. Their mariner training has made them just as gung ho and brutal in combat as all the other divisions.</P> <P>The Bullgrunts: The conscript traitors of the Iron Guard have not undergone mariner training but are just as fierce and loyal as a true mariner. These are foreign soldiers who have allied with the Iron Guard in exchange for wishes to be granted by the guard in the land that the Bullgrunts have betrayed. These soldiers report to the Talon Division Captain or the War Haggler Captain depending on their duty for the time.<BR></P>

[troodon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vhalen wrote:<BR> <P>The Bullgrunts: The conscript traitors of the Iron Guard have not undergone mariner training but are just as fierce and loyal as a true mariner. These are foreign soldiers who have allied with the Iron Guard in exchange for wishes to be granted by the guard in the land that the Bullgrunts have betrayed. These soldiers report to the Talon Division Captain or the War Haggler Captain depending on their duty for the time.<BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Very interesting</P>

[Zh]

<blockquote><hr>Dreadfiend wrote:<div>One word: SarnaksI don't think the Sarnaks were idle while the iksar were busy drowning in the Ocean of Tears. In EQ1, Chardok and the Brood of Dizok were looking for such an event so that they could attack the iksar. The sarnak were building their forces and slowing gaining territory in Kunark for only one purpose: to become the dominate race of the continent.The iksar might hate the dragons (and shissar), but the sarnaks hate the iksar just as much if not more. Don't think that the sarnaks waiting patiently while the iksar scrambled to recover from the fleet disaster <i>and</i> aftermath of the Shattering.The sarnak are part dragon & part iksar, so they might have weathered the Shattering better than most races and their hatred and resentment towards the iksar would be motivation enough to gain strength fast seeing the weakened state of the iksar.</div><hr></blockquote>Well I just have a problem with that, it's not like the entire Iksar race got on boats and were in the middle of the ocean. Who knows what happened to the sarnaks as a result of the 2nd green mist? Maybe during the lost periods of time before *many* Iksar set out on boats they decided to crush the sarnaks and re-enslave them. Why would only the iksar be scrambling from The Shattering of Luclin? The Sarnak would be too, hey they live on the same continent. What if during The Rending of Norrath much of the Sarnak lands were lost and most of them died? I mean great theories and all, there are just too many possibilities and all we can do is wait and see.