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Skydrop
04-03-2006, 04:28 AM
<div>Walking around the bonemire today I noticed how many dragon bones are scattered around the zone, another zone I can think of with dragon bones is lavastorm. Considering all I've seen being discussed about dragon lore in this forum I'm wondering if anyone can put any history behind any of the dragon skeletons?</div>

Cusashorn
04-03-2006, 11:08 AM
<div>.... There's not much to explain. They're just the bones of dead dragons, and in the case of Lavastorm, Lady Vox.</div>

NoNameChosen
04-03-2006, 04:02 PM
<div>There is 1 set of bones on Ravasect Isle (Ghazi's Rest) and I would like to know more about. There seems more to him because he can be spawned as the `Shade of Ghazi`. Why is he so special that he has several raid mobs dedicated to him?</div>

IrishWonder
04-03-2006, 05:31 PM
<div>As Cusashorn noted, there's no big story as to WHY there are dragon bones littering KoS.</div><div>However, I think a question we should be asking is WHY are the Droag so interested in uncovering them now? If you travel around KoS, especially Bonemire, you'll find many Droag archaeological dig sites uncovering the bones. They obviously have an importance that we're unaware of yet. Perhaps Tarinax isn't the only dead dragon the Droag want back?</div>

MakhailSamma
04-04-2006, 12:16 AM
<div>And the Awakened has been missing an awfully long time <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

xentavius
04-04-2006, 12:37 AM
<span><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>.... There's not much to explain. They're just the bones of dead dragons, and in the case of Lavastorm, Lady Vox.</div><hr></blockquote>Are you talking about the bones in the lava river, where the Solusek's Fyst spawns? How do you know those are Vox's bones?</span><div></div>

Cusashorn
04-04-2006, 03:29 AM
<div>It's mentioned in the game somewhere, but I don't remember where.</div><div> </div><div>Lady Vox loved Nagafen and tried to fly over to see him, where she met her demise. I think Lucan himself killed her.... or maybe I"m just thinking back to that Fanart I saw back before EQ2 went live.</div><div> </div><div>Anyway, No other dragon has any actual reason to seek out Lord Nagafen when they all know where he lives, and the prismatic quest mentions her death on many occasions, including ressurecting her.</div>

Vhalen
04-04-2006, 04:45 AM
<div></div>The remains we see buried in the Dragon Isles in the Overrealm are from the same place the isles originated. Don't look to Norrath for answers. What importance these remains are to the Awakened remain to be seen. Whatever reason a rebellious dragon empire has for excavating such things, it can't be good for the rest of the world.   

Themaginator
04-04-2006, 05:24 AM
ok so heres what i can guess tell me if im wrong, Lord Vyemm wants to ressurect the bones thats the experiments hes working on in his Lab and these are the bones of dragons from Plane of Sky? am i right or wrong<div></div>

DreamerClou
04-04-2006, 06:03 AM
<div></div>Are dragons immortal?

Cusashorn
04-04-2006, 09:26 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>DreamerCloud9 wrote:<div></div>Are dragons immortal?<hr></blockquote>Supposedly they can live forever, just like the Akhevans could on Luclin. But that didn't mean they were invulnerable. They could still be killed.

IrishWonder
04-04-2006, 09:33 AM
<div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div> </div><div>Lady Vox loved Nagafen and tried to fly over to see him, where she met her demise. I think Lucan himself killed her....</div><hr></blockquote></div><p> </p><p>Are you sure those bones are Lady Vox's? For some reason, I thought I remembered hearing that she was killed in her lair by attacking Drakota sent by the Dragons to get rid of her and Nagafen. They killed her right after Nagafen left her lair, then attacked Nagafen while he was on his way back. Nagafen defeated them and made it back to his lair safely, of course. But I have no ideal where I got all that from...</p>

Uanelven
04-04-2006, 03:13 PM
<div>Yeah,  Vox was killed by Drakota.   Think that pretty central to the Fire and Ice quest.</div>

IrishWonder
04-04-2006, 04:02 PM
<div></div><p>I found the text. This is in a book somewhere within the Fire & Ice or Deception quest line... not sure which, it's been way too long.</p><p>Note that this is the Sage of Ages (e.g. Darathar) recording this, so the full truth of it can be questioned, but I'm fairly certain it's true in regards to the death of Lady Vox.</p><p><font size="2">This book appears to be an extremely valuable illuminated tome. Unfortunately, most of the pages have been ripped out of the book. The title of the story is "The Age of Cataclysms".Forward: This volume is a copy of one the more recent tomes within our library. This was a chronicle of the several times the Sage of Ages spoke to us of his infinite knowledge. It is only now that we can understand what his visions can teach us. The Sage of Ages, or Sages as the case may be, has observed Norrath for time immemorial. This story is a glimpse into just one of the many viewpoints of unrecorded history. As the Age of Cataclysms came, the Dragons would watch as their world would change drastically. Their jewel, their present from the great Mother, was being ripped apart before their very eyes. The gods had come and gone, and in their wake devastation followed. Having followed the great wars of the lesser races for much of the last Age, they were not convinced that the heroes were stable enough to use as tools. This is because they did not understand that the lessers were as important as those that were not draconic. This is something the Dragons would come to know in time. For the time being, they would continue observing from a far as the world broke apart. The turbulence of the seas was what began to alarm them at first. They could tell this was something greater than they were capable of. With the absence of the gods, they could not blame it on divine interference. But what it was, they could not say.When the rumblings beneath the earth began, they asked all of their agents within Sub-Tunaria if there was a cause thant was simply mundane. Not hearing an answer from their eyes and ears, they became alarmed. Ultimately, one of the Ring spoke first. One spoke the name of the Exiled Ones. During the Age of Turmoil, the invading heroes would undo all that the Ring of old had seeked to contain. The blatant disregard toward the Laws on part of the King of Fire and the Queen of Ice is what was contained within the deepest tomb. When it was released, destruction unlike anything the Dragons had seen in any Age was wreaked across the land. Perhaps Nagafen and Vox had been freed from their prison after all these Ages. The Ring convened as it had done so in the past. One group wanted to move their prison to their homeland to watch over them. On group wanted to seal their prisons forever. And one individual suggested the using the Drakota. After many ages, they gave in and allowed the Drakota to be used once again. The Truthbringer, the Dragon who was in control of the Drakota, traveled to the prison of the King of Fire and saw that the worst come to pass. The destruction of the world was being caused by the joining of the two. At once, he took his faithful Drakota to the ice prison that entombed Vox. His worst fears were true, for within the Ice Queen's prison was the Fire King. The Truthbringer waited for the Fire King to leave, knowing that he could not suffer the freezing temperatures of the prison for too long. As Nagafen left, the Truthbringer unleashed the Drakota upon Vox. Where the Destroyer of past ages was seduced by the foolish lies of the fiends and failed, the Truthbringer was successful. Vox was destroyed. Not letting the victory pass, the Truthbringer assaulted the King of Fire before he could reach the safety of his lair - his former prison. The Truthbringer would suffer only half a victory during this age, for the King of Fire had drawn from powers not his own to defeat the Drakota. The Age would end, but the Truthbringer would vow that in the next Age, the bane of the Ring would cease once and for all. </font></p>

Saroc_Luclin
04-04-2006, 06:27 PM
<div><span><blockquote><hr>Vhalen wrote:<div></div>The remains we see buried in the Dragon Isles in the Overrealm are from the same place the isles originated. <b>Don't look to Norrath for answers. </b>What importance these remains are to the Awakened remain to be seen. Whatever reason a rebellious dragon empire has for excavating such things, it can't be good for the rest of the world.   <hr></blockquote>Does the Bolded part mean that the answers to our questions are not on Norrath and thus all on the isles, or does it mean that the isles did not come from Norrath at all but came from PoSky or other sources?If it was the former, that would mean that there is still a possibility that the isles originated on Norrath (ie Skyfire and Dragon necropolis maybe?).</span></div>

Cusashorn
04-04-2006, 07:57 PM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Saroc_Luclin wrote:<div><span><blockquote><hr>Vhalen wrote:<div></div>The remains we see buried in the Dragon Isles in the Overrealm are from the same place the isles originated. <b>Don't look to Norrath for answers. </b>What importance these remains are to the Awakened remain to be seen. Whatever reason a rebellious dragon empire has for excavating such things, it can't be good for the rest of the world.   <hr></blockquote>Does the Bolded part mean that the answers to our questions are not on Norrath and thus all on the isles, or does it mean that the isles did not come from Norrath at all but came from PoSky or other sources?If it was the former, that would mean that there is still a possibility that the isles originated on Norrath (ie Skyfire and Dragon necropolis maybe?).</span></div><hr></blockquote>It means that what happens in KoS, STAYS in KoS.

DreamerClou
04-05-2006, 01:02 AM
<div></div>So for the most part, dragons are killing other dragons - like how Lady Vox was killed in her lair etc.  Doesn't that violate the rule that dragons can't or are not supposed to kill other dragons?

Jait
04-05-2006, 01:15 AM
<div></div><div>Drakota don't seem to be bound by the Draconic Laws.  In fact outside of the Harness, they dont seem to be bound by anything at all.  Very dangerous creatures those Drakota.</div><p>Message Edited by Jait on <span class="date_text">04-04-2006</span><span class="time_text">02:19 PM</span></p>

Duhulk
04-05-2006, 03:09 AM
<div></div><p></p><hr>The remains we see buried in the Dragon Isles in the Overrealm are from the same place the isles originated. Don't look to Norrath for answers. What importance these remains are to the Awakened remain to be seen. Whatever reason a rebellious dragon empire has for excavating such things, it can't be good for the rest of the world.   <hr><p>Here I go again, ready shatter Vhalen's carefully weaven web of mystery. Mwhahahahahaha</p><p>The dragon bones are the remains of planar dragons. The Quellithulians are doin the research and the Doomwing are doing the excavating of the bones. The bones contain a special element. In the upper areas of Vyemms lab they are doing experiements to create a sort of mutagen from the material and then using the mutagen to create Super Droag to be used for the invasion on Norrath.</p>

Vhalen
04-05-2006, 03:32 AM
<div>The Quellithulians and the Awakened, what an odd alliance. To better understand the alliance you would have to walk the palaces of an island continent or know the master of the spires. As for the excavated resources, they have many uses.  </div>

Pathin Merrithay
04-05-2006, 08:21 PM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>DreamerCloud9 wrote:<div></div>So for the most part, dragons are killing other dragons - like how Lady Vox was killed in her lair etc.  Doesn't that violate the rule that dragons can't or are not supposed to kill other dragons?<hr></blockquote>Vox and Nagafen never were very good at following rules as a general rule. And Darathar (from what I gather) was sort of a punk as well. The denizens of KoS are relatively dismissive in the occasions where you can mention you've killed him.

Duhulk
04-06-2006, 03:55 AM
<div></div><p></p><hr>And the Awakened has been missing an awfully long time<hr><p>Actually, I don't think we know how long he has been gone, at least publically, from the Dragon Isles.Hence the continued contention as to whether he's actually alive or not. If he's been missing for less than 15(ish) years, that would suggest he didn't die destroying luclin as previously suggested.</p>

The-Fourm-Pirate
04-06-2006, 04:39 AM
<div></div>Naggy says he recieved false information when he learned that Kerafyrm was dead, either he is lying (Not far fetched) or Kerafyrm is still alive out there, just hiding somewhere, waiting for his comeback.

Jigokusens
04-06-2006, 07:07 PM
<div></div><p>Well if you put it into context think of it this way:</p><p>Veeshan created Norrath with a swipe of her claws as in EQL. The dragons that inhabited Norrath back then were some of the same generals of the Awakened we see in KoS today.</p><p>Obviously the leaders of the awakened were led to this area of PoS by the "Awakened" Keraphym himself. Or they sought refuge here at the time of the Shattering and Keraphym enlisted them in his new army. The interesting part is that Keraphym is looking for Veeshan, or at least he was. This could explain his current absence again.</p><p>If you think about this on a larger scale, where/what realm did Veeshan come from?? In EQL she had agents scattered about the original PoA-PoS. She has many ties to the upper planes. Was there an entire dragon empire never seen by Norathian eyes??</p><p>It seems very likely this is the case, and even more likely Keraphym found KoS while he was looking for Veeshan. Or he was looking for a workable base of operations, and this was a good start.</p><p>If you look at all the dragon skeletons in KoS, they have been there for a loooong time. So long in fact they are being excavated so the Generals can reanimate or reuse them in some way. Deathtoll is right there, and Keraphym did "bring back" the shades of Harla'Dar's loved ones as he said he would. Perhaps there is a large scale plan to bring even more deceased dragon kind through the rift to serve as an eternal army for the Awakened. It seems there are Many spirits of dragons moving about inside of Deathtoll. It also seems Keraphym's power is so great he can cross that barrier. (Where Nagafen obviously cannot, thus he needs the hero's of Norrath to go into Deathtoll and stop Keraphym's mad schemes.)</p><p>The Awakened empire is fledgling and awaiting on their emporer to return, so they can conquer Norrath. After all the Awakened think of it as thier own (home) as you will. Harla'Dar, Lord Vyemm, Talendor, Goreinarie, all orginally settled in Norrath. (Plus what else is there to conquer atm you ask??.)</p><p>Side Note--Remember that Barrakah, and Siyamak both came from "somewhere" in the PoS. They wanted to escape as a matter of fact, before they were tricked by the Djinn Master. Which leads me to believe there are even more dragon realms than previously thought.</p>