Question from the Tome of Destiny

[Saroc_Luclin]

In Chapter V of the Tome of Destiny there is the following paragraph:<blockquote>The monk was silent for a moment, then spoke softly yet certainly. “I wish there was another answer, but there is not. <b>Though the gateway to the Realm of Discord was closed, its influence still holds Norrath in its grasp.</b> Balance must be restored to the lands and this Age of War must finally be ended. But there is a terrible price to be paid. Our duty is to see that these two cities survive, for in the dark times ahead, the strength of both will be needed.”</blockquote>I'm curious if anyone has thought much about that line I bolded and what it might indicate.Personally, I always took it as an indication that EQII did have a war with Discord at some point relatively soon after the timeline split, though there is no indication about how this war played out. In EQLive we know the Adventurers discovered the Muramite's from the Relm of Discord on Taelosia and carried the battle back to Mata Muram himself on Kuaa.In EQII, as far as I know, that mention in the Tome of Destiny is the only indicator of the Realm of Discord associated with EQII, so I'm trying to think of what it might imply.Any thoughts?<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<div>I think it might just be a..... vague familiarity to the planes being rather chaotic in thier own right.</div>

[Saroc_Luclin]

Well it is capitalized as you see it in my post, as "Realm of Discord", so it seems to be refrerencing something specific and not generalities.Also the quote in question is a discussion between the Avatars of Storm and Tranquility, in the days during the Gods's breaking contact with Norrath, relatively soon after Luclin travel (and teleportation in general it seems) was cut off. The Avatars seemed to speak of it as if it was an event from longer ago than the events in the Tome of Destiny. I don't think it was Planar related however, since up until the Spires were silenced, access to the Planes was still possible and was still done.<div></div>

[Dreadfie]

I like to look at the time-line split as a perfect example of the chaos theory's "sensative dependence on initial conditions". The time-lines were very similar to one another for the most part (outside the planes), but then the ripple effect started to occur causing things to diverge more and more the longer time went on.Perhaps the events for Omens of War did play out, but to a very different outcome. When so many variables are switched at the begining of the EQ2 time-line sequence, it's bound to have very strange ramifications to similar events closer to the split until they both diverge so much that events can't be cross compared any more.As a side note, I find it interesting that the destruction of the spire network alone didn't close off the planes. In EQ1, wizards were able to port to both the Plane of Hate and Plane of Sky. The Planes of Fear, Mischief and Regrowth were reached by portals on Norrath. Either the gods took away access to these portals or the portals were in some other way "blocked" from planar travel.Imagine the poor raid group in distant EQ2 time-line history that tried to port out of one of those planes only to find out... they couldn't.<span>:smileysurprised:</span> lol<div></div>

[Saroc_Luclin]

I think all teleportation was disabled after the spires died, so access to Hate, Sky and the other planes was probably lost. Growth, Mischief and Fear had portals on Norrath however and may have been accessable still. Only Fear had a full scale portal though (the other two had 'port keys' to borrow another universe's term).From the Tome of Destiny it seems that Fear was even accessable in the early stages of the Zek war. After the fall of Gukta, one of the Ogre generals is told to gain the support of the followers of Fear by any means necessary, including destroying the portal to fear itself if needed. It also makes specific mention of the Amylgaldians (sp. the original squid faces), and as far as I know, they only lived in the Plane of Fear itself; there weren't any in the Temple of Cazic Thule in either form of the temple. Sometime after the war, or after Zek invaded I suspect, that portal was probably destroyed too.<div></div>