Deathtoll

[Renita_Serafim]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><div><hr>Vhalen wrote:</div><div> </div><div>This is a dark brooding land of agony. It is a small pocket dimension. <strong>At the center of this small realm rises the Deathtoll Tower.</strong> This immense bell tower rings aloud, but in a low long gong. It rings whenever someone dies in the universe and their spirit is taken here to a limbo like state. Spirits wander the land and some even fly about and swirl around the tower in the eternal blood red sky. It is here all that pass through the gates of death must visit. Here they wait in a timeless space. They will either pass on to an eternal land within one of the primary planes or they will be returned to their realm. Here souls await their fate and here to can be found a few souls attempting to escape their eternal fate. Some who have sold their soul to eternal lands, lands no one would care to see, often attempt a futile escape back into mortal realms. Only a few souls thus far have been able to escape and of those even fewer escaped the Harrowing Horde sent to capture the escaped souls.</div><div><p>Of all the dimenesions theorized by great philosophers and theologists of Norrath, Ethernere is the one with the greatest amount of aliases. Limbo, The Gray Wastes, The Sea of Souls, The Land of Haunts, etc. There are a multitude of mythical names applied to this dimension. Norrath does have one nickname growing in popularity or at least in use. This alias for Ethernere is the Gray Fields.</p><hr><p></p></div><p>I have heard that Tarinax the Destroyer from the new Kingdom of Sky expansion can be found in a zone called Deathtoll. Would this happen to be the same Deathtoll that can be found within the Ethernere or is this simply coincidence?</p><p>Message Edited by Astralmage on <span class="date_text">03-26-2006</span><span class="time_text">02:24 PM</span></p>

[Vhalen]

<div>Chances are, they are unrelated. I won't tell. But I can say that among Norrathians of ancient lineage the Deathtoll Bell Tower in Ethernere is a powerful myth. I would not put it past an ancient race to name one of their most deadly places of undeath after the mythical structure. Larger questions would be, what is it formed of and why? I know the answer. I won't tell.</div><div> </div>

[Raevin]

<div></div>I love it when you're so cryptic, Vhalen.  It's kind of a turn on, really...

[andersonim]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Vhalen wrote:<div>Chances are, they are unrelated. I won't tell. But I can say that among Norrathians of ancient lineage the Deathtoll Bell Tower in Ethernere is a powerful myth. I would not put it past an ancient race to name one of their most deadly places of undeath after the mythical structure. Larger questions would be, what is it formed of and why? I know the answer. I won't tell.</div><div> </div><hr></blockquote>what a tease!

[-Arctura-]

(( OOC - Deathtoll is an instanced zone off Bonemire. Quite hard to get to, gotta pass by an isle full of wraith-ghosts and undead droag. I was absolutely INSANE and ran my level 20 assasin through there, up to the door. (( took some timing running between monsters but its doable)), got some screenshots of the door, a very impressive skeletal looking structure with a Glowing magical portal in the middle))((couldnt get access, might be level restricted, or 4-6 groupmember minimum, not sure (or im just not flagged for access)0<div></div>

[Anoixia]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>-Arctura- wrote:(( OOC - Deathtoll is an instanced zone off Bonemire. Quite hard to get to, gotta pass by an isle full of wraith-ghosts and undead droag. I was absolutely INSANE and ran my level 20 assasin through there, up to the door. (( took some timing running between monsters but its doable)), got some screenshots of the door, a very impressive skeletal looking structure with a Glowing magical portal in the middle))((couldnt get access, might be level restricted, or 4-6 groupmember minimum, not sure (or im just not flagged for access)0<div></div><hr></blockquote>It is a raid zone.  An access quest is required to enter the quest asks you to kill the dragons in the other raid zones

[The-Fourm-Pirate]

<div>Only 1 guild gamewide has completed access, however two have been inside *COUGHYOUKNOWWHOCOUGH*. It will be impossible for anyone but the most hardcore raiders to ever get in though because the first guild to grind to level 70 gets to monopolize the spawns on the contested dragons, thus keeping people out of deathtoll.</div>

[Ama]

<div><blockquote><hr>Vhalen wrote:<div>Chances are, they are unrelated. I won't tell. <font color="#ff0000">But I can say that among Norrathians of ancient lineage the Deathtoll Bell Tower in Ethernere is a powerful myth. I would not put it past an ancient race to name one of their most deadly places of undeath after the mythical structure. Larger questions would be, what is it formed of and why?</font> I know the answer. I won't tell.</div><div> </div><hr></blockquote>Swear with what vhalen knows he needs two titles. One being Game Designer the other being Librarian of EverQuest.  </div><div> </div><div> </div><div>When the question is possed what is it formed of do you mean the Deathtoll Bell Tower in Ethernere or Deathtoll in bonemire.  I have a strange feeling or a 6th sense that the Deathtoll in bonemire was forged from several pieces of the Deathtoll Bell Tower to give it its power and myth.  However tis is just pure speculation as to what it maybe formed of.  As for why I believe the answer lies within the ancient Lineage of the Deathtoll Bell Tower itself and what its purpose may have been.</div>

[Renita_Serafim]

<div></div><p>I managed to reach the Deathtoll entrance today and get a screenshot. Funny how the zone point is a portal and not the doors to the tower itself. I wonder....</p><p><img src="http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6103/deathtoll5cx.jpg"><a href="http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6103/deathtoll5cx.jpg" target="_blank"></a></p>

[Ama]

<div>Heh don't know what made me think of this just now but that picture reminds me of pinochio going inside the wail.  Or what we could view it as is going inside of a huge dragon since the portal is located within the skeletal mouth of a dragon <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</div>

[Xita]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Vhalen wrote:<div>Chances are, they are unrelated. I won't tell. But I can say that among Norrathians of ancient lineage the Deathtoll Bell Tower in Ethernere is a powerful myth. I would not put it past an ancient race to name one of their most deadly places of undeath after the mythical structure. Larger questions would be, what is it formed of and why? I know the answer. I won't tell.</div><div> </div><hr></blockquote>somebody loves his job <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[-Arctura-]

If i had the honor and privelege to write lore for EQ i would love the job too <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I think the Deathtoll is a zone initself probably with a tower in the middle.<div></div>

[Duhulk]

<div></div><p>I think Deathtoll is a planar graveyard.</p><p>I also think it's home to a massive treasure trove as well as a couple (or one?) crazy little gnomes.</p>

[Jait]

<div>^Written on a wall in blood:  "Sirran Lives...."</div><div> </div><div>:smileytongue:</div>

[Duhulk]

<div>I think Sirran was a halfling :p</div>

[galacticdu]

<div></div><div></div><div>Could there be a Shadowmen connenction? I know there is a Shodowedmen and Drakota connection. ie MM in Lavastorm. The same instance you kill the Drakota in there is also a huge shadowedman. I forget his name. They could hold a secret alliance and maybe hold sway over Deathtoll. Maybe thay are tied of geing under  Dragon rule .</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Just a thought. Don't flame me to bad:smileywink:</div><p>Message Edited by galacticdude on <span class="date_text">03-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:19 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by galacticdude on <span class="date_text">03-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:23 AM</span></p>

[Jait]

<div></div><div>Gnomes, halflings, they're all puntable.</div><div> </div><div>As for Shadowed Men, dunno.  Since it requires the mark of the 4 leaders of the Awakened.  Not sure how they'd bypass such a hefty entry requirement <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><p>Message Edited by Jait on <span class="date_text">03-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:35 AM</span></p>

[Cusashorn]

<div>As much mystery as there is behind the shadowmen, I hope they're no longer involved in anything further.</div>

[galacticdu]

<div></div><div></div><div></div>Does the great Vhalen wish to give us a yes or no that the shadowmen are involved?<p>Message Edited by galacticdude on <span class="date_text">03-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:42 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by galacticdude on <span class="date_text">03-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:43 AM</span></p>

[galacticdu]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Jait wrote:<div></div><div>Gnomes, halflings, they're all puntable.</div><div> </div><div>As for Shadowed Men, dunno.  Since it requires the mark of the 4 leaders of the Awakened.  Not sure how they'd bypass such a hefty entry requirement <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><p>Message Edited by Jait on <span class="date_text">03-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:35 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Well in theory they can prob open a portal in downtown Freeport if they wanted to or any place they want.<p>Message Edited by galacticdude on <span class="date_text">03-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:47 AM</span></p>

[Renita_Serafim]

<div></div><div>A theory regarding the Shadowed Men that I once posted to a thread on the Ethernere.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div><blockquote><hr>Vhalen wrote:<div></div><p>This is a dark brooding land of agony. It is a small pocket dimension. At the center of this small realm rises the Deathtoll Tower. This immense bell tower rings aloud, but in a low long gong. It rings whenever someone dies in the universe and their spirit is taken here to a limbo like state. Spirits wander the land and some even fly about and swirl around the tower in the eternal blood red sky. It is here all that pass through the gates of death must visit. Here they wait in a timeless space. They will either pass on to an eternal land within one of the primary planes or they will be returned to their realm. Here souls await their fate and here to can be found a few souls attempting to escape their eternal fate. Some who have sold their soul to eternal lands, lands no one would care to see, often attempt a futile escape back into mortal realms. Only a few souls thus far have been able to escape and of those even fewer escaped the Harrowing Horde sent to capture the escaped souls.</p><p>Of all the dimenesions theorized by great philosophers and theologists of Norrath, Ethernere is the one with the greatest amount of aliases. Limbo, The Gray Wastes, The Sea of Souls, The Land of Haunts, etc. There are a multitude of mythical names applied to this dimension. Norrath does have one nickname growing in popularity or at least in use. This alias for Ethernere is the Gray Fields.</p><hr></blockquote><ul><li>Realm of Agony</li><li>Tower in the middle</li><li>Small Pocket Dimension</li><li>Spirits in a limbo like state</li><li>Blood Red Sky</li><li>Timeless Space</li><li>Harrowing Hordes (Nightblood sometimes refer to their kind as "The Horde" )</li></ul><p>Obelisk of Lost Souls?</p></div>

[xentavius]

<div></div><div></div>Good call Astralmage.Also one of the quests in KoS, think it is the Trial of the Awakened, says something about the awakened's soul was captured by other wordly beings. I instantly thought of this forum and the hints that have been passed around about shadowmen/obselisk/eq 2 connection. Shoot I am at work so I can't scoure my logs.Anyone else know what I am talking about? Have peopel noticed how many obselisk baddies are around in Kos? Those metal turning dudes for one. Same ones that are in Nek castle, which someone eluded to in another thread, has some machinery that is the same as some found in the obsleisk. Yeah could be reused art.. but I am starting to see a bigger connection.<div></div><p>Message Edited by xentavius on <span class="date_text">03-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">04:33 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by xentavius on <span class="date_text">03-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">04:34 PM</span></p>

[SageGaspar]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>xentavius wrote:Also one of the quests in KoS, think it is the Trial of the Awakened, says something about the awakened's soul was captured by other wordly beings. I instantly thought of this forum and the hints that have been passed around about shadowmen/obselisk/eq 2 connection. Shoot I am at work so I can't scoure my logs.Anyone else know what I am talking about? Have peopel noticed how many obselisk baddies are around in Kos? Those metal turning dudes for one. Same ones that are in Nek castle, which someone eluded to in another thread, has some machinery that is the same as some found in the obsleisk. Yeah could be reused art.. but I am starting to see a bigger connection.<hr></blockquote>Good call, also, people have mentioned this already, but one of the quests in OOLS started by someone in Feerrott is to retrieve the soul of Tarinax from there. Kind of a coincidence if Tarinax is in Deathtoll, people talk about the awakened being captured by otherworldly beings, and Tarinax is also in Obelisk of Lost Souls. Unless there's some funky naming coincidence <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span></div>

[Duhulk]

*posting this here too cause people aren't seeing it <span><span>:smileywink:</span></span> *<p>During the KoS Claymore quest a dragon spirit of Aaryonar tells you that shortly before dying he watched a group of horned beings come from a tower that appeared out of thin air.</p><p>He later saw them drag a huge dragon back into the tower, and it then dissapeared.</p><p>Some of Aaryonar's other dialogue proves what I have longed conjectured, that The Awakened has the power to pull spirits out of Ethernere.</p><p>Some of the books you read in the Mark of the Awakened questline talk about a "mysterious dragon" that few in the cult know about. This dragon underwent terrible horrible things.</p><p>My synopsis is this. Tarinax was dragged by Obelisk denizens into one of their structures. There he, um...well he didn't have a good time. While I haven't sorted out the exact path his soul takes, I'm sure The Awakened played some role and has now placed what remains (/snicker) of Tarinax into Deathtoll to guard his treasure trove.</p><div></div>

[hahn_ba]

<div></div><p>Nevermind the crude sexual jokes here - <a href="http://www.assentguild.com/" target="_blank">http://www.assentguild.com/</a> - but one of the zones in Prophecy of Ro (newest EQ 1 expansion) is called Deathknell - arguably a synonym for Deathtoll.</p><p>Any connecting information or relevance to be gleaned?</p>

[Vhalen]

<div></div><p>There is a Deathknell in EQII. All you Freeportians pass it all the time. It is larger than life and ominous to all. There are superstitions in Freeport of curses coming to those that lurk in its shadow too long. If the time of day projects a shadow over the Seafarer's Roost, you can bet the tavern will not be seeing patrons for a few hours, untill the shadow moves on. You mages of Freeport would have called this home if the age was turmoil. It is, of course, The Overlord's Citadel. It is Dethknell Citadel. The misspelling is intended. The Overlord spells it that way because... Oh wait... we were talking about Deathtoll weren't we?</p><p>Deathtoll in the Overrealm is a very private place to the Awakened. There are reasons the place was called that. They may not be evident to those that defy law and step foot into Deathtoll, but hints exist. The Awakened created this undead sanctuary for no one else. It exists as a vault of treasures, memories and trophies of defiance. There is a relation between myths and what we all know as fact.</p>

[EQ2Playa432]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Vhalen wrote:<div></div><p>There is a Deathknell in EQII. All you Freeportians pass it all the time. It is larger than life and ominous to all. There are superstitions in Freeport of curses coming to those that lurk in its shadow too long. If the time of day projects a shadow over the Seafarer's Roost, you can bet the tavern will not be seeing patrons for a few hours, untill the shadow moves on. You mages of Freeport would have called this home if the age was turmoil. It is, of course, The Overlord's Citadel. It is Dethknell Citadel. The misspelling is intended. The Overlord spells it that way because... Oh wait... we were talking about Deathtoll weren't we?</p><p>Deathtoll in the Overrealm is a very private place to the Awakened. There are reasons the place was called that. <em>They may not be evident to those that defy law and step foot into Deathtoll, but hints exist</em>. <em>The Awakened created this undead sanctuary for no one else.</em> It exists as a vault of treasures, memories and trophies of defiance. There is a relation between myths and what we all know as fact.</p><hr></blockquote>Hmmm.

[vinterskugge]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Vhalen wrote:<div></div><p>It is Dethknell Citadel. The misspelling is intended. The Overlord spells it that way because...</p><hr></blockquote>..he's a Megadeth fan?

[ganjookie]

SOB let us in the citadel!!<div></div>

[SaintJ]

<div><blockquote><hr>vinterskugge wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Vhalen wrote:<div></div><p>It is Dethknell Citadel. The misspelling is intended. The Overlord spells it that way because...</p><hr></blockquote>..he's a Megadeth fan?<hr></blockquote>LOL you beat me to that one. Go Victor! :smileywink:</div>

[surolan]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>SaintJay wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>vinterskugge wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Vhalen wrote:<div></div><p>It is Dethknell Citadel. The misspelling is intended. The Overlord spells it that way because...</p><hr></blockquote>..he's a Megadeth fan?<hr></blockquote>LOL you beat me to that one. Go Victor! :smileywink:</div><hr></blockquote>Rofl! :smileyvery-happy:

[Delameko Stone]

<div></div>Is Dethknell the big floaty thing in the middle of FP?Just because I was looking at the big gates that lead to it last night and wondering if they'll ever open...<p>Message Edited by Delameko Stone on <span class="date_text">04-03-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:06 AM</span></p>

[NoNameChosen]

<p>blah nvm ...</p><p>Message Edited by NoNameChosen on <span class="date_text">04-03-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:26 AM</span></p>

[TheGReddy]

<div></div>One day i hope someone sneaks into Vhalen's Library of Lore and tells us everything:smileywink:

[Methrill.Rundran]

<p>I never played EQ1, but I find it interesting from what I read, that Deathtoll Access seems almost identical to the way Kerafyrm was awakened (4 seals obtained from dragons). Could the Deathtoll Access quest have been a trick to release Kerafyrm? </p>

[Morghus]

<p><cite>Methrill.Rundran wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I never played EQ1, but I find it interesting from what I read, that Deathtoll Access seems almost identical to the way Kerafyrm was awakened (4 seals obtained from dragons). Could the Deathtoll Access quest have been a trick to release Kerafyrm? </p></blockquote><p>Nah, I think it was just a place used for Kerafyrm to store whatever plunder he amassed before vanishing. The similarity to the way he was sealed/awakened could very well be a case of intended or unintended irony on his part though.</p>

[Methrill.Rundran]

<p>It's also the way the players are sort of tricked and led on by greed by another dragon (Jaled'Dar/Nagafen) in both cases, in one to have the chance to loot the accumulated treasure in the Sleeper's tomb and in the other to be able to loot all the accumulated treasure in DT. Not that this weakens the argument that it's all coincidence... just adds another layer of coincidence...</p>