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Ama
03-07-2006, 08:17 AM
<div>I was passing through the breeding grounds today getting some resources as usual when I started thinking about something.  The Herald of Dar talks to his Droag brethern in TT "It is our time to claim norrath".  Well why do they have breed observers, and observitories setup on that particular island?  Is this an EQII version of Soldier where they are raising wyrms and drakes from birth to be the perfect machines of war.  Heartless, Relentless in their hunger and easy to manipulate or is there something more to the Breeding grounds?  To further the mystery I have spied on that Island on my server a powerful named creature called Hurricanus The Patriarch which is a lvl 74 epicx4 drakota with two minions that follow it.   What does all of this mean however?</div>

Anoixia
03-07-2006, 07:31 PM
<div>There is also a breeding ground on the Isle of Awakening.  One of the quests you can do involves using a gnomish device to sabatoge the genes of the drakes so that not the current generation of drake but a couple of generations down will be weak and unable to reproduce.  The aviak that gives the quest says his people will be enslaved in the future when the droag army gets larger hence the sabotage</div>

Cusashorn
03-07-2006, 09:05 PM
<div>Yeah they gotta watch over thier herds of cattle to make sure everything develops right.</div>

Ama
03-08-2006, 02:16 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>Yeah they gotta watch over thier herds of cattle to make sure everything develops right.</div><hr></blockquote>Hmm but here's the thing how are they able to control those drakes.  I thought that drakes would only answer to a higher dragon and some were too dumb to even be able to speak.   I'm starting to wonder if The Dragon of Twilight has something to do with this.  That dragon planning to use their breed to enslave norrath once they have gotten enough of them atleast.

Cusashorn
03-08-2006, 03:14 AM
<div>no those are Drakota. Drakes are below that.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>I guess if you put them as a chain of command, it might go like this.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>1. Dragons</div><div>2. Drakota</div><div>3. Droags</div><div>4. Drakes</div><div>5. Wurms</div>

Ama
03-08-2006, 07:02 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>no those are Drakota. Drakes are below that.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>I guess if you put them as a chain of command, it might go like this.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>1. Dragons</div><div>2. Drakota</div><div>3. Droags</div><div>4. Drakes</div><div>5. Wurms</div><hr></blockquote>Hmm very interesting didn't think drakes and wyrms were in the same area as drakota and Droags.  If I had to say anything I would think Droags would be higher than Drakota but my gut tells me otherwise.  The reason being Lord Darathar had his lieutenants and they were pure drakota same as the one you face in MG and for the trials.  I wouldn't think wyrms would be ranked 5th though as they seem un predictable and un controlable from their appearence.

Cusashorn
03-08-2006, 08:14 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Amana wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>no those are Drakota. Drakes are below that.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>I guess if you put them as a chain of command, it might go like this.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>1. Dragons</div><div>2. Drakota</div><div>3. Droags</div><div>4. Drakes</div><div>5. Wurms</div><hr></blockquote>Hmm very interesting didn't think drakes and wyrms were in the same area as drakota and Droags.  If I had to say anything I would think Droags would be higher than Drakota but my gut tells me otherwise.  The reason being Lord Darathar had his lieutenants and they were pure drakota same as the one you face in MG and for the trials.  I wouldn't think wyrms would be ranked 5th though as they seem un predictable and un controlable from their appearence.<hr></blockquote><p>Exactly. Wurms are the lowest of the dragon-kind. They're not as intellegent as all the others above them.</p><p> </p><p>Even in EQlive, the Wurms were more like commoners while the drakes and Dragons were higher up on the social order. Just look at Western Wastes and Temple of Veeshan, or Skyfire Mountains and Veeshan's Peak for example.</p>

Ama
03-08-2006, 06:36 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Amana wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>no those are Drakota. Drakes are below that.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>I guess if you put them as a chain of command, it might go like this.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>1. Dragons</div><div>2. Drakota</div><div>3. Droags</div><div>4. Drakes</div><div>5. Wurms</div><hr></blockquote>Hmm very interesting didn't think drakes and wyrms were in the same area as drakota and Droags.  If I had to say anything I would think Droags would be higher than Drakota but my gut tells me otherwise.  The reason being Lord Darathar had his lieutenants and they were pure drakota same as the one you face in MG and for the trials.  I wouldn't think wyrms would be ranked 5th though as they seem un predictable and un controlable from their appearence.<hr></blockquote><p>Exactly. Wurms are the lowest of the dragon-kind. They're not as intellegent as all the others above them.</p><p> </p><p>Even in EQlive, the Wurms were more like commoners while the drakes and Dragons were higher up on the social order. Just look at Western Wastes and Temple of Veeshan, or Skyfire Mountains and Veeshan's Peak for example.</p><hr></blockquote>Well what i'm really saying is I didn't even think wyrms were classifiable as draconic.  I always thought they were just dumb stupid lizards that had insect like behavior following one rule being the master wyrm when it arose.  Had no idea they were part draconic and respected the Droag.  However here is my next question Cusashorn what makes you say Drakota then Droag? </div>

Cusashorn
03-08-2006, 08:54 PM
<div></div><div>Because as Amana said, the Droag only listen to the Dragons. They wouldn't listen to the droags unless they had a good reason that would further benefit thier own desires from it.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Oh, and technically, a wyrm is a dragon without wings.</div><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class="date_text">03-08-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:55 AM</span></p>

Anoixia
03-09-2006, 07:35 AM
<div></div>also note that each individual drake gets more individual attention from a Droag, where as wyrms are just monitored for the treehouses with the occasional patrol.  This shows that the drakes are of greater importance to the droag

MoD1133
03-09-2006, 08:55 AM
<blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>no those are Drakota. Drakes are below that.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>I guess if you put them as a chain of command, it might go like this.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>1. Dragons</div><div><font color="#0000ff">2. Drakota</font></div><div>3. Droags</div><div><font color="#0000ff">4. Drakes</font></div><div>5. Wurms</div><hr></blockquote>I saw a drakota today, and it was called a greater tempest drake. I think that Wurms and Drakes do not exist in EQII at all because if you ever notice, Lord Xyfl, Azdalin, and Gylton were all Wurms in EQL and in EQII they are not wurms they are a dragon, a wyrm, and a drakota.

Cusashorn
03-09-2006, 11:45 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>MoD1133 wrote:<blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>no those are Drakota. Drakes are below that.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>I guess if you put them as a chain of command, it might go like this.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>1. Dragons</div><div><font color="#0000ff">2. Drakota</font></div><div>3. Droags</div><div><font color="#0000ff">4. Drakes</font></div><div>5. Wurms</div><hr></blockquote>I saw a drakota today, and it was called a greater tempest drake. I think that Wurms and Drakes do not exist in EQII at all because if you ever notice, Lord Xyfl, Azdalin, and Gylton were all Wurms in EQL and in EQII <font color="#66cc00">they are not wurms they are a dragon, a wyrm, and a drakota.</font><hr></blockquote>And with that you just contradicted your own statement.

Ama
03-09-2006, 06:45 PM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Arnou wrote:<div></div>also note that each individual drake gets more individual attention from a Droag, where as wyrms are just monitored for the treehouses with the occasional patrol.  This shows that the drakes are of greater importance to the droag<hr></blockquote>Ok so if the drakes are of greater importance than the wyrms why is that?  Also could this possible be a for seeable future LE where we must defend our homes from drake attacks?