Lore of the Droag

[Ama]

<div></div><div></div><div>When I was invisied hidden inside the sanctum of the scale born I heard some very interesting lore.   It was "A herald of Dar" preaching what the Droag worship and I got a little screenie of it.  I had hoped to copy down what the droag priest said to here so we could look at it and decipher it.  Unfortunately I didn't log it so it didn't get captured but a small portion of what is in the screenie.  The only thing that really caught my eye was he ended with the word prismatic and stated it will be time to claim norrath as our own.</div><div><span class="time_text"></span> </div><div><span class="time_text"><img src="http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6304/eq20002298gm.jpg"></span></div><div><span class="time_text">Below if you look at my chat box is the ending part saying they will reclaim norrath. </span></div><div><span class="time_text"><img src="http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6687/eq20002304ah.jpg"></span></div><p>Message Edited by Amana on <span class="date_text">02-28-2006</span><span class="time_text">04:20 PM</span></p>

[Cusashorn]

<div>Yep Yep. The Atrium of Kildrukaun found in the Halls of Fate, and the inspection message for the "Emblem of the Awakened" collectabes scattered around KoS clearly prove that Kerafyrm is "The Awakened" (especially since those emblems mention "The Sleeper&quot<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. Now to find out where he is, and how the Droags came to exist.</div>

[j3huty]

<div>a herald of Dar says in Draconic, "Once abandoned by her mate and eldest daughter while she was with unhatched child as they rebelled against the wayward Claws, her heart grew heavy with sadness."a herald of Dar says in Draconic, "Her grief would only be intensified by the news of her mate's death.  She would take some solace in the birth of her young son, but even that would be snatched from her!"a herald of Dar says in Draconic, "When it was discovered that even this last bit of joy was taken from her by the wicked act of another dragon, her soul shattered for she felt all was lost</div><div>a herald of Dar says in Draconic, "In time, Harla Dar hid herself in the ice caves of holy Velious where she hoped to wither and die, wrapped in her anguish and sorrow.  But the day of her death did not come."a herald of Dar says in Draconic, "The Greatest One came to her in that cave of grief and pain and breathed hope and purpose once again into her life.  He told her that if she would but join Him here in this realm that she would see her mate and child again."a herald of Dar says in Draconic, "It is by His power that she now sees and speaks to her son and mate, and it will be by His power that they will one day be reunited in flesh!"a herald of Dar says in Draconic, "Prepare my brethren, for the time is near that he will return to lead us once again in reclaiming Norrath!"a herald of Dar says in Draconic, "It is our Age of Destiny!"</div><div> </div><div><hr></div><div> </div><div>Heard him say the first bit as I was running past and stuck around for the rest. It sounds like I wandered past halfway through his speech. I was surprised he was up for long enough to even get that far but will try to capture the rest of it sometime.</div>

[Ama]

<div>Ya thats when I came in I think is when it talked about the dragon's daughter being ripped from her.  The weird thing is it makes me think of Vox and Nagafen for some reason.  With the powers that be decreeing that two different elemental dragons cannot mate thus if such a thing were to happen a prismatic dragon would be created.  I have a feeling our Prismatic 3.0 weapons are going to be heavily intwined with what was said by that Herald of Dar droag and what the droag describe as their faith.  The question is who will it end with as the keeper of the weapons? </div>

[Cusashorn]

<div>I remember Harla Dar talking about how she was increadibly depressed over a matter about her own children back in EQlive.</div><div> </div><div>Must have taken a long time for her to get over that.</div>

[MoD1133]

<div></div><div></div><p>Yes i remember Harla Dar saying "if you harm him i will kill you" or something like that, i guess she was talking about Fraka Dar. Fraka Dar was the youngest child of Harla Dar, and in a long quest given by Phara Dar you find out in the end that Zlandicar had eaten Fraka Dar. </p><p>I guess after the news came to her that Zlandicar ate Fraka Dar she had gone in to the "Cave of Sorrow".</p><p>Message Edited by MoD1133 on <span class="date_text">02-28-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:13 PM</span></p>

[Ama]

<div></div>hmm so if this is the faith the droag follow then how is it relative to us?  Something is going on here that I think we might be missing.  I wonder if the bone dragon in the bonemire has something he/she/it is cooking up?

[Delandr]

Actually....there is a lot of mistaken belief that the Sleeper, Kerafym...was the child of Naggy/Vox. I believe actually, the sleeper was this child spoken off that was ripped away from her. Locked away by the Claws of Veeshan because they feared its power being of mixed color. In fact...I'm pretty sure that iwas the final straw that sparked the civl war between the Velius dragon factions. This is of course, of the top of my head from playing EQ1 for a long long time....so someone may want to verify this.<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<div>It's been proven that Kerafyrm is not Vox or Naggy's child, and that Dozekar the Cursed and an unknown female dragon are his parents.</div>

[Duhulk]

<div></div><p></p><hr>and an unknown female dragon<hr><p>So is she unknown or Kiludrakuanwhoseewhatsit?  :smileyvery-happy:</p>

[Cusashorn]

<div>*sigh*</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Kildrukaun = Kerafyrm's Mentor who taught him to seek out power.</div><div> </div><div>Dozekar = Kerafyrm's Father.</div><div> </div><div>Nagafen = no relation to Kerafyrm at all.</div><div> </div><div>Vox = See Nagafen.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Kerafyrm's Mother = *NEVER* (and I mean NEVER) hinted at or mentioned or named. Never. Period.</div>

[MoD1133]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Delandril wrote:Actually....there is a lot of mistaken belief that the Sleeper, Kerafym...was the child of Naggy/Vox. I believe actually, the sleeper was this child spoken off that was ripped away from her. Locked away by the Claws of Veeshan because they feared its power being of mixed color. In fact...I'm pretty sure that iwas the final straw that sparked the civl war between the Velius dragon factions. This is of course, of the top of my head from playing EQ1 for a long long time....so someone may want to verify this.<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>Kerafyrm officially has no relation ot nagafen and vox.</p><p>Kerafyrm was born into the claws of veeshan and not in the ring of scale.</p><p>Nagafen and Vox were inprisoned by the ring of scale because they were feared of mating and creating a prismatic.</p><p>Officially nothing is ever said about dragons of different colors, its about the element.</p><p>The civil war in the claws of veeshan was started by Kildrukaun and the other 3 ancients because they didnt want kerafyrm to die. Its been officially said that Kerafyrm can not be killed by any being of the second generation or any dragon, so they instead put him to sleep, and the claws of veeshan chose 4 of the strongest dragons of their time to guard the sleeper for a temporary time.</p><p>Message Edited by MoD1133 on <span class="date_text">03-01-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:44 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by MoD1133 on <span class="date_text">03-01-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:45 PM</span></p>

[MoD1133]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Duhulk wrote:<div></div><p></p><hr>and an unknown female dragon<hr><p>So is she unknown or Kiludrakuanwhoseewhatsit?  :smileyvery-happy:</p><hr></blockquote>Kildrukaun is a male dragon.

[MoD1133]

<div></div><div></div><p>Today in the Blackscale instance i found a ghostly dragon named Turudrumin. He said that i helped him see again and that he was blinded by some agent of the Awakened. I aso found out that the Awakened is a group of dragons. He said that long ago he stood up against all the dragons who started to defy Veeshan and that he was punished and imprisoned within the Blackscale Spechuler. He said something about "the four" not being satisfied with his punishment and so they killed him so he can be an example to all the dragons who would go against the beleifs of the awakened. He said many more things but i was somewhat sleepy at the time and so i dont remember. He also said something about the King of the Halls of Fate having to do with the Awakened.</p><p>Message Edited by MoD1133 on <span class="date_text">03-01-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:04 PM</span></p>

[AbsentmindedMage]

<span><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>It's been proven that Kerafyrm is not Vox or Naggy's child, and that Dozekar the Cursed and an unknown female dragon are his parents.</div><hr></blockquote>I believe you but I havent completed Fire and Ice and Deception.  Can you spoil it for me and tell me how it is proven that he isnt Lady Vox and Lord Nagafen's child?Also, how is it known that Dozekar is the father?</span><div></div>

[Ama]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>MoD1133 wrote:<div></div><div></div><p>Today in the Blackscale instance i found a ghostly dragon named Turudrumin. He said that i helped him see again and that he was blinded by some agent of the Awakened. I aso found out that the Awakened is a group of dragons. He said that long ago he stood up against all the dragons who started to defy Veeshan and that he was punished and imprisoned within the Blackscale Spechuler. He said something about "the four" not being satisfied with his punishment and so they killed him so he can be an example to all the dragons who would go against the beleifs of the awakened. He said many more things but i was somewhat sleepy at the time and so i dont remember. He also said something about the King of the Halls of Fate having to do with the Awakened.</p><p>Message Edited by MoD1133 on <span class="date_text">03-01-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:04 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Makes me think about the "Necromantic Bone Dragon" whatever his name is being the king of the Halls of Fate.  Have a strange feeling the 4 dragons we see at the opening have a larger role to play and they are not operating under their own will.  Wonder if we will see the ring of scale reborn or have the wyrm queen come back?

[MoD1133]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Amana wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>MoD1133 wrote:<div></div><div></div><p>Today in the Blackscale instance i found a ghostly dragon named Turudrumin. He said that i helped him see again and that he was blinded by some agent of the Awakened. I aso found out that the Awakened is a group of dragons. He said that long ago he stood up against all the dragons who started to defy Veeshan and that he was punished and imprisoned within the Blackscale Spechuler. He said something about "the four" not being satisfied with his punishment and so they killed him so he can be an example to all the dragons who would go against the beleifs of the awakened. He said many more things but i was somewhat sleepy at the time and so i dont remember. He also said something about the King of the Halls of Fate having to do with the Awakened.</p><p>Message Edited by MoD1133 on <span class="date_text">03-01-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:04 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Makes me think about the "Necromantic Bone Dragon" whatever his name is being the king of the Halls of Fate.  Have a strange feeling the 4 dragons we see at the opening have a larger role to play and they are not operating under their own will.  Wonder if we will see the ring of scale reborn or have the wyrm queen come back?<hr></blockquote>I think the four dragons are the four ancients.

[MoD1133]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>AbsentmindedMage wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>It's been proven that Kerafyrm is not Vox or Naggy's child, and that Dozekar the Cursed and an unknown female dragon are his parents.</div><hr></blockquote>I believe you but I havent completed Fire and Ice and Deception.  Can you spoil it for me and tell me how it is proven that he isnt Lady Vox and Lord Nagafen's child?Also, how is it known that Dozekar is the father?</span><div></div><hr></blockquote><p>It isnt at all said in the Prismatic 1.0 quest that Kerafyrm is not the child of Nagafen and Vox. But from what most of us have gathered from Everquest Live, its pretty simple and obvious Kerafyrm is not at all the child of Nagafen and Vox.</p><p>Nagafen and Vox were imprisoned by the ring of scale and kerafyrm was born into the claws of Veeshan. Kerafyrm was born during the time the Ring of Scale had been isolated form the Claws of Veeshan. If Kerafyrm was the child of Nagafen and Vox then he would have been born into the Ring of Scale and not the claws of Veeshan.</p><p>Dozeker the Cursed is assumed to be the father of Kerafyrm but nothing is official. I believe he is the father of Kerafyrm because he has the worst punishment anyone could ever have which is dieing over and over intentionally and then being Rezzed back to life by the Cleric of Veeshan. Dragons have a strong oath to never harm any other Dragon and its very different in Dozekers case because Illiandra the Keeper intentionally asks us to kill him for his tears and then he gets Rezzed back to life to then be killed again.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<div>Actually there are NPC's in Temple of Veeshan and Skyshrine who confirm that Dozekar is Kerafyrm's father.</div>

[Ama]

<blockquote><hr>MoD1133 wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>AbsentmindedMage wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>It's been proven that Kerafyrm is not Vox or Naggy's child, and that Dozekar the Cursed and an unknown female dragon are his parents.</div><hr></blockquote>I believe you but I havent completed Fire and Ice and Deception.  Can you spoil it for me and tell me how it is proven that he isnt Lady Vox and Lord Nagafen's child?Also, how is it known that Dozekar is the father?</span><div></div><hr></blockquote><p>It isnt at all said in the Prismatic 1.0 quest that Kerafyrm is not the child of Nagafen and Vox. But from what most of us have gathered from Everquest Live, its pretty simple and obvious Kerafyrm is not at all the child of Nagafen and Vox.</p><p>Nagafen and Vox were imprisoned by the ring of scale and kerafyrm was born into the claws of Veeshan. Kerafyrm was born during the time the Ring of Scale had been isolated form the Claws of Veeshan. If Kerafyrm was the child of Nagafen and Vox then he would have been born into the Ring of Scale and not the claws of Veeshan.</p><p>Dozeker the Cursed is assumed to be the father of Kerafyrm but nothing is official. I believe he is the father of Kerafyrm because he has the worst punishment anyone could ever have which is dieing over and over intentionally and then being Rezzed back to life by the Cleric of Veeshan. Dragons have a strong oath to never harm any other Dragon and its very different in Dozekers case because Illiandra the Keeper intentionally asks us to kill him for his tears and then he gets Rezzed back to life to then be killed again.</p><hr></blockquote><p>Very interesting however what about this comment below from the sage of ages.  Could it be intertwined with what we are seeing the droag worship or is it completely different?</p><p><img src="http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/7426/eq20001486rs.jpg"></p>

[MoD1133]

<div></div>Yes the Droag are worshipping Kerafyrm the sleeper it seems, and most of the dragons have gone against Veeshan. Tururdrumin and Aayonar the watcher are both against the "Awakened". I only spoke to Turudrumin and i was about to talk to Aayonar the watcher who is a ghost now (he was a dragon in the Temple of Veeshan in EQL) but my guild rushed out and i didnt want to be left behind, but my guildy told me Aayonar said something about searching for dragons in the lands. I guess Aayonar the Watcher is probably looking for dragons out there who still believe in Veeshan and want to stop the Awakened, and i believe the crusaders of Veeshan will soon step in.

[IlionSturmli]

<blockquote><hr>Amana wrote:<blockquote><hr>MoD1133 wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>AbsentmindedMage wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>It's been proven that Kerafyrm is not Vox or Naggy's child, and that Dozekar the Cursed and an unknown female dragon are his parents.</div><hr></blockquote>I believe you but I havent completed Fire and Ice and Deception.  Can you spoil it for me and tell me how it is proven that he isnt Lady Vox and Lord Nagafen's child?Also, how is it known that Dozekar is the father?</span><div></div><hr></blockquote><p>It isnt at all said in the Prismatic 1.0 quest that Kerafyrm is not the child of Nagafen and Vox. But from what most of us have gathered from Everquest Live, its pretty simple and obvious Kerafyrm is not at all the child of Nagafen and Vox.</p><p>Nagafen and Vox were imprisoned by the ring of scale and kerafyrm was born into the claws of Veeshan. Kerafyrm was born during the time the Ring of Scale had been isolated form the Claws of Veeshan. If Kerafyrm was the child of Nagafen and Vox then he would have been born into the Ring of Scale and not the claws of Veeshan.</p><p>Dozeker the Cursed is assumed to be the father of Kerafyrm but nothing is official. I believe he is the father of Kerafyrm because he has the worst punishment anyone could ever have which is dieing over and over intentionally and then being Rezzed back to life by the Cleric of Veeshan. Dragons have a strong oath to never harm any other Dragon and its very different in Dozekers case because Illiandra the Keeper intentionally asks us to kill him for his tears and then he gets Rezzed back to life to then be killed again.</p><hr></blockquote><p>Very interesting however what about this comment below from the sage of ages.  Could it be intertwined with what we are seeing the droag worship or is it completely different?</p><p><img src="http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/7426/eq20001486rs.jpg"></p><hr></blockquote><p>Vox and Nagafen where imprisoned because they tried to create another prismatic Dragon and thats what they are still trying to do.  Thats what the Sage is hinting at.</p><p>Vox and Nagafen are NOT the parents of Kerafyrm!</p>

[Ama]

<div>Hmm well I got to hear more the Herald of Dar person speaking and keep hearing the same stuff.  He keeps talking about how Haladar *sp* owes her/its once shattered soul to the prismatic.  The Prismatic 3.0 quest is going to be one dusy of a quest imho from what I keep imagining.  Having to take on maybe the 4 dragons all together then maybe a 5th hidden dragon to obtain the prismatic 3.0 weapons.</div>

[SpryYoungE]

<div>I think we'll actually see Kerafyrm in this expansion, as one of the music tracks in the EQ2 folder is labeled 'Kerafyrm.' Just my two coppers.</div>

[MoD1133]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>SpryYoungElf wrote:<div>I think we'll actually see Kerafyrm in this expansion, as one of the music tracks in the EQ2 folder is labeled 'Kerafyrm.' Just my two coppers.</div><hr></blockquote>I dont knwo if we'll see Kerafyrm in this expansion or not but we may very well see the four ancients because i saw a statue of Zeixhi-Kar the Ancient today in SoS, and when i put my mouse over the statue it said he is now the General of Destiny.

[MoD1133]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Amana wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>MoD1133 wrote:<div></div><div></div><p>Today in the Blackscale instance i found a ghostly dragon named Turudrumin. He said that i helped him see again and that he was blinded by some agent of the Awakened. I aso found out that the Awakened is a group of dragons. He said that long ago he stood up against all the dragons who started to defy Veeshan and that he was punished and imprisoned within the Blackscale Spechuler. He said something about "the four" not being satisfied with his punishment and so they killed him so he can be an example to all the dragons who would go against the beleifs of the awakened. He said many more things but i was somewhat sleepy at the time and so i dont remember. He also said something about the King of the Halls of Fate having to do with the Awakened.</p><p>Message Edited by MoD1133 on <span class="date_text">03-01-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:04 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Makes me think about the "Necromantic Bone Dragon" whatever his name is being the king of the Halls of Fate.  Have a strange feeling the 4 dragons we see at the opening have a larger role to play and they are not operating under their own will.  Wonder if we will see the ring of scale reborn or have the wyrm queen come back?<hr></blockquote>If Tarrinax the Destroyer is the King of the Halls of Fate then we know hes with Kerafyrm since hes the one who wanted to get rid of Turudrumin.

[teddyboy4]

Someone asked above if Kerafym was the child that was ripped away from Harla Dar, and the answer is no. As someone said it was Fraka Dar that was taken, and he was eaten by the canibal dragon (can't remember his name).Also, the "He" that the herald of Droag keeps mentioning is most definately Kerafymm. All clues are pointing in his direction, it seems that after he invaded the Plane of Sky after his awakening he flew off to a remote part of the Over realm. I also don't imagine we'll be fighting him again, he's been awake a long time and I'm sure his power has matured. That said I do think he will make an appearance at some point in the course of this expansion.As for the 4 dragons that make up the screens of KoS, they are probably his main Lietenants and the main "bosses" that will be faced throughout the Kingdom of Sky.

[j3huty]

<div></div><div><p>Got a little bit more of the speech:</p><p><font color="#ffff00">"The world below was ordained for us.  It is by right that we shall claim it once again in His name!""We were awoken for this purpose, and to this end we shall forever serve our progenitors.""Be ready, my brethren!  The time to act quickly draws nigh.  The One awoken from slumber will return to us soon.""By His command we prepare.  By His command we wait.  By His command we will act.""Be not swayed by your Doomwing brethren, for their leader, Lord Vyemm, grows restless to act.  We must be steadfast to the last command given to the Awakened before the Shattering.""High Priestess Dar knows it is wisdom to heed to this command.  To wait, to be ready for His return as he commanded of all his disciples.""Lord Vyemm believes that He may never return, that He left it to us to reclaim the world alone.  But I tell you High Priestess Dar has foreseen His return!""We must trust in the wise counsel of our priestess, as she trusted in His.  She owes her very life, even her once shattered soul to the Prismatic."</font>"Once abandoned by her mate and eldest daughter while she was with unhatched child as they rebelled against the wayward Claws, her heart grew heavy with sadness.""Her grief would only be intensified by the news of her mate's death.  She would take some solace in the birth of her young son, but even that would be snatched from her!""When it was discovered that even this last bit of joy was taken from her by the wicked act of another dragon, her soul shattered for she felt all was lost."</p><p>"In time, Harla Dar hid herself in the ice caves of holy Velious where she hoped to wither and die, wrapped in her anguish and sorrow.  But the day of her death did not come.""The Greatest One came to her in that cave of grief and pain and breathed hope and purpose once again into her life.  He told her that if she would but join Him here in this realm that she would see her mate and child again.""It is by His power that she now sees and speaks to her son and mate, and it will be by His power that they will one day be reunited in flesh!""Prepare my brethren, for the time is near that he will return to lead us once again in reclaiming Norrath!""It is our Age of Destiny!</p><p></p><hr><p>The new stuff is in Yellow. No doubt that the one they worship is Kerafyrm. Sounds like very interesting lore,</p></div>

[Ama]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>j3huty wrote:<div></div><div><p>Got a little bit more of the speech:</p><p><font color="#ffff00">"The world below was ordained for us.  It is by right that we shall claim it once again in His name!""We were awoken for this purpose, and to this end we shall forever serve our progenitors.""Be ready, my brethren!  The time to act quickly draws nigh.  The One awoken from slumber will return to us soon.""By His command we prepare.  By His command we wait.  By His command we will act.""Be not swayed by your Doomwing brethren, for their leader, Lord Vyemm, grows restless to act.  We must be steadfast to the last command given to the Awakened before the Shattering.""High Priestess Dar knows it is wisdom to heed to this command.  To wait, to be ready for His return as he commanded of all his disciples.""Lord Vyemm believes that He may never return, that He left it to us to reclaim the world alone.  But I tell you High Priestess Dar has foreseen His return!""We must trust in the wise counsel of our priestess, as she trusted in His.  She owes her very life, even her once shattered soul to the Prismatic."</font>"Once abandoned by her mate and eldest daughter while she was with unhatched child as they rebelled against the wayward Claws, her heart grew heavy with sadness.""Her grief would only be intensified by the news of her mate's death.  She would take some solace in the birth of her young son, but even that would be snatched from her!""When it was discovered that even this last bit of joy was taken from her by the wicked act of another dragon, her soul shattered for she felt all was lost."</p><p>"In time, Harla Dar hid herself in the ice caves of holy Velious where she hoped to wither and die, wrapped in her anguish and sorrow.  But the day of her death did not come.""The Greatest One came to her in that cave of grief and pain and breathed hope and purpose once again into her life.  He told her that if she would but join Him here in this realm that she would see her mate and child again.""It is by His power that she now sees and speaks to her son and mate, and it will be by His power that they will one day be reunited in flesh!""Prepare my brethren, for the time is near that he will return to lead us once again in reclaiming Norrath!""It is our Age of Destiny!</p><p></p><hr><p>The new stuff is in Yellow. No doubt that the one they worship is Kerafyrm. Sounds like very interesting lore,</p></div><hr></blockquote><p>I have to agree there it sounds like they are worshiping Kerafyrm and it does sound interesting.  From what it sounds like we have a decention or split off scenario.  One faction worships Lord Kerafyrm while the other one worships Lord Vyemn.  This may create a much heated battle where we will be sent to rival factions to undermine their operations.  I am however still hanging upon this scentence which really has got me stunned.</p><p><font color="#ffff00">"We must trust in the wise counsel of our priestess, as she trusted in His.  She owes her very life, even her once shattered soul to the Prismatic."</font></p>

[Renita_Serafim]

<div>I thought it would be worth pointing out once more that the name of Tarinax has been mentioned elsewhere...</div><div> </div><div><img src="http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/9753/tarinax9tt.jpg"></div>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>MoD1133 wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Amana wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>MoD1133 wrote:<div></div><div></div><p>Today in the Blackscale instance i found a ghostly dragon named Turudrumin. He said that i helped him see again and that he was blinded by some agent of the Awakened. I aso found out that the Awakened is a group of dragons. He said that long ago he stood up against all the dragons who started to defy Veeshan and that he was punished and imprisoned within the Blackscale Spechuler. He said something about "the four" not being satisfied with his punishment and so they killed him so he can be an example to all the dragons who would go against the beleifs of the awakened. He said many more things but i was somewhat sleepy at the time and so i dont remember. He also said something about the King of the Halls of Fate having to do with the Awakened.</p><p>Message Edited by MoD1133 on <span class="date_text">03-01-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:04 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Makes me think about the "Necromantic Bone Dragon" whatever his name is being the king of the Halls of Fate.  Have a strange feeling the 4 dragons we see at the opening have a larger role to play and they are not operating under their own will.  Wonder if we will see the ring of scale reborn or have the wyrm queen come back?<hr></blockquote>If Tarrinax the Destroyer is the King of the Halls of Fate then we know hes with Kerafyrm since hes the one who wanted to get rid of Turudrumin.<hr></blockquote>Tarniax has nothing to do with the Halls of Fate at all. However, Lord Vyrmm has everything to do with it and rules it.

[MoD1133]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Pinski wrote:<blockquote><hr>MoD1133 wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Amana wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>MoD1133 wrote:<div></div><div></div><p>Today in the Blackscale instance i found a ghostly dragon named Turudrumin. He said that i helped him see again and that he was blinded by some agent of the Awakened. I aso found out that the Awakened is a group of dragons. He said that long ago he stood up against all the dragons who started to defy Veeshan and that he was punished and imprisoned within the Blackscale Spechuler. He said something about "the four" not being satisfied with his punishment and so they killed him so he can be an example to all the dragons who would go against the beleifs of the awakened. He said many more things but i was somewhat sleepy at the time and so i dont remember. He also said something about the King of the Halls of Fate having to do with the Awakened.</p><p>Message Edited by MoD1133 on <span class="date_text">03-01-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:04 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Makes me think about the "Necromantic Bone Dragon" whatever his name is being the king of the Halls of Fate.  Have a strange feeling the 4 dragons we see at the opening have a larger role to play and they are not operating under their own will.  Wonder if we will see the ring of scale reborn or have the wyrm queen come back?<hr></blockquote>If Tarrinax the Destroyer is the King of the Halls of Fate then we know hes with Kerafyrm since hes the one who wanted to get rid of Turudrumin.<hr></blockquote>Tarniax has nothing to do with the Halls of Fate at all. However, Lord Vyrmm has everything to do with it and rules it.<hr></blockquote>Well then i guess Lord Vyemm is with Kerafyrm.

[MoD1133]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Amana wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>j3huty wrote:<div></div><div><p>Got a little bit more of the speech:</p><p><font color="#ffff00">"The world below was ordained for us.  It is by right that we shall claim it once again in His name!""We were awoken for this purpose, and to this end we shall forever serve our progenitors.""Be ready, my brethren!  The time to act quickly draws nigh.  The One awoken from slumber will return to us soon.""By His command we prepare.  By His command we wait.  By His command we will act.""Be not swayed by your Doomwing brethren, for their leader, Lord Vyemm, grows restless to act.  We must be steadfast to the last command given to the Awakened before the Shattering.""High Priestess Dar knows it is wisdom to heed to this command.  To wait, to be ready for His return as he commanded of all his disciples.""Lord Vyemm believes that He may never return, that He left it to us to reclaim the world alone.  But I tell you High Priestess Dar has foreseen His return!""We must trust in the wise counsel of our priestess, as she trusted in His.  She owes her very life, even her once shattered soul to the Prismatic."</font>"Once abandoned by her mate and eldest daughter while she was with unhatched child as they rebelled against the wayward Claws, her heart grew heavy with sadness.""Her grief would only be intensified by the news of her mate's death.  She would take some solace in the birth of her young son, but even that would be snatched from her!""When it was discovered that even this last bit of joy was taken from her by the wicked act of another dragon, her soul shattered for she felt all was lost."</p><p>"In time, Harla Dar hid herself in the ice caves of holy Velious where she hoped to wither and die, wrapped in her anguish and sorrow.  But the day of her death did not come.""The Greatest One came to her in that cave of grief and pain and breathed hope and purpose once again into her life.  He told her that if she would but join Him here in this realm that she would see her mate and child again.""It is by His power that she now sees and speaks to her son and mate, and it will be by His power that they will one day be reunited in flesh!""Prepare my brethren, for the time is near that he will return to lead us once again in reclaiming Norrath!""It is our Age of Destiny!</p><p></p><hr><p>The new stuff is in Yellow. No doubt that the one they worship is Kerafyrm. Sounds like very interesting lore,</p></div><hr></blockquote><p>I have to agree there it sounds like they are worshiping Kerafyrm and it does sound interesting.  From what it sounds like we have a decention or split off scenario.  One faction worships Lord Kerafyrm while the other one worships Lord Vyemn.  This may create a much heated battle where we will be sent to rival factions to undermine their operations.  I am however still hanging upon this scentence which really has got me stunned.</p><p><font color="#ffff00">"We must trust in the wise counsel of our priestess, as she trusted in His.  She owes her very life, even her once shattered soul to the Prismatic."</font></p><hr></blockquote>I dont think anyone is worshipping Lord Vyemm, he's only the leader of the Doomwing.

[Ama]

<div>Well it says in the doomwings broke off and it says their leader Lord Vyemn which makes me think that they worship him or serve him in one form or another.</div>

[MoD1133]

<div></div><div>No Lord Vyemm worships Kerafyrm now, but he doesn't believe that he will ever return to Norrath. It seems the only reason the Doomwing Legion broke off was because there leader Lord Vyemm does not agree with the Awakened, that Kerafyrm will return to Norrath and Vyemm wants to act quickly and take over Norrath instead of waiting for Kerafyrm like Harla Dar is.</div><div>Vyemm is not at all a Dragon god he's only a leader. He himself worships Kerafyrm, which is why he imprisoned Turudrumin, because Tururdrumin stood up against the dragons who defied Veeshan.</div><p>Message Edited by MoD1133 on <span class="date_text">03-03-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:23 PM</span></p>

[Ama]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>MoD1133 wrote:<div></div><div>No Lord Vyemm worships Kerafyrm now, but he doesn't believe that he will ever return to Norrath. It seems the only reason the Doomwing Legion broke off was because there leader Lord Vyemm does not agree with the Awakened, that Kerafyrm will return to Norrath and Vyemm wants to act quickly and take over Norrath instead of waiting for Kerafyrm like Harla Dar is.</div><div>Vyemm is not at all a Dragon god he's only a leader. He himself worships Kerafyrm, which is why he imprisoned Turudrumin, because Tururdrumin stood up against the dragons who defied Veeshan.</div><p>Message Edited by MoD1133 on <span class="date_text">03-03-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:23 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote><p>My brain hurts I need some ice and some tylonol :smileyindifferent: .  Ok ok let me get this straight Lord Vyemn is the one that broke off from Harla dar because he believes Kerafyrm will never return and thus a portion of the scaleborn broke off becoming the doom wing legion?  However was there already the doomwing legion and the scaleborn combined together or did some leave with Lord Vyemn creating the Doomwing Legion. </p><p>Also another question to pose here and now since we are discussing the dragons.  What about the other dragons besides Lord Vyemn and Harla Dar?  Do they have plans to take over norrath like their breatherin or do they have something more sinester planned?</p>

[Culgar]

Not to spoil the obvious, but check in your game folder-  Kerafyrm has his own music and voice pack. *shiver*<div></div>

[Ama]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Culgar wrote:Not to spoil the obvious, but check in your game folder-  Kerafyrm has his own music and voice pack. *shiver*<div></div><hr></blockquote>O geez >.< .

[Wisr]

<div>Not wanting to spoil it for those who might wish to uncover this stuff on their own, I'll say that there is a series of quests that gives a TON of lore regarding the Awakened and thier identities, Kerafyrm's status, the nature of his cult, and who/where the bone dragon is. It starts in the Bonemire. Feel free to drop me a tell if you have questions, the character's name is Wisren on the Kithicor server.</div>

[UnHoly Shad]

<div></div>Tarinax the undead dragon lich is in Death Toll you gain access by killing the 4 leaders of the Awakened for Nagafen.

[Ama]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>UnHoly Shadow wrote:<div></div>Tarinax the undead dragon lich is in Death Toll you gain access by killing the 4 leaders of the Awakened for Nagafen.<hr></blockquote>Hmm so it looks like we are already beginning to learn about all of KoS and what is has offered to us.  However something tells me we have just scratched the surface and there is something much bigger out there than we could have known. 

[CrazedMut]

<div>Here is a screenshot from examining the  book of power from the quest "The Mark of Awakening".</div><div>I believe it is hinting toward Kerafyrm, but I can't be too sure. Make of it while you will.</div><div><img src="http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/4295/kerathyrmlore3rz.jpg"></div>

[Ama]

<div>I will have to fish around in here to find it but I posted up a pic of a line from the sage of ages that talkes about "The Sleepless one" or something.  I think that might be this all might creature that everyone is talking about. </div>

[CrazedMut]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Amana wrote:<div>I will have to fish around in here to find it but I posted up a pic of a line from the sage of ages that talkes about "The Sleepless one" or something.  I think that might be this all might creature that everyone is talking about. </div><p></p><hr><p>Confirmed as Kerafyrm: This is what Turudrumin says when you speak to him as part of Arbiter Seleks access quests..</p></blockquote><img src="http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/7199/kerafyrm0pe.jpg">

[Ama]

<div>Ok here is what we know so far concerning the Lore of the Droag.  There are 2 factions be they waring or just diverse as they may be.  One faction preaches the words of Harla Dar and believes in their High Priestess with the coming of Kerafyrm.  The other part is are the cursed Doomwings that reside within Bonemire that believe what Lord Vymn *sp* says saying that Kerafyrm will not come back. </div><div> </div><div>However the question remains what about the other 3 dragons?  There are 5 dragons depicted on the main screen when you load up EQ2.  One is Harla Dar, the other is Lord Vymn but that leaves the other 3 and do these 3 have followers of their own, or are just solitary creatures by their own right?  Also do they seek to revive, see the coming of Kerafyrm or do they just seek their own agenda of power.</div>

[BrizaOr]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>CrazedMutha wrote:<div>Here is a screenshot from examining the  book of power from the quest "The Mark of Awakening".</div><div>I believe it is hinting toward Kerafyrm, but I can't be too sure. Make of it while you will.</div><div><img src="http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/4295/kerathyrmlore3rz.jpg"></div><hr></blockquote><p>Actually I think these books refer to Tarinax as "the Mysterious One", when you continue reading the book of power it says something along the lines of:</p><p>"Only a true master of his craft could have accomplished the feat he did - escape the world upon his own death. Tomes I have found indicate that it was only through the power of a mysterious race of void-travellers that he was captured. Perhaps I will find more when I continue my research"</p><p>Which would to some degree explain why the Soul of Tarinax was locked up at the Obelisk of the Lost Souls, assuming the soul container you retrieve for the orc general in the quest at feerrott speaks about the same entity. Also the book of sacrifice at Sanctum of Scaleborn had some more lore about "the mysterious one" which if i remember correctly mentioned that the "mysterious one" is unknown to the 4 leaders of the Awakened, but if that is correct and the leaders of the awakened has sealed the Deathtoll entrance - I wonder what might be the reason, is the place somehow sacred to dragonkind, is something important sealed inside, or is it that something doesn't get out of there? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Ama]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>BrizaOrin wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>CrazedMutha wrote:<div>Here is a screenshot from examining the  book of power from the quest "The Mark of Awakening".</div><div>I believe it is hinting toward Kerafyrm, but I can't be too sure. Make of it while you will.</div><div><img src="http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/4295/kerathyrmlore3rz.jpg"></div><hr></blockquote><p>Actually I think these books refer to Tarinax as "the Mysterious One", when you continue reading the book of power it says something along the lines of:</p><p>"Only a true master of his craft could have accomplished the feat he did - escape the world upon his own death. Tomes I have found indicate that it was only through the power of a mysterious race of void-travellers that he was captured. Perhaps I will find more when I continue my research"</p><p>Which would to some degree explain why the Soul of Tarinax was locked up at the Obelisk of the Lost Souls, assuming the soul container you retrieve for the orc general in the quest at feerrott speaks about the same entity. Also the book of sacrifice at Sanctum of Scaleborn had some more lore about "the mysterious one" which if i remember correctly mentioned that the "mysterious one" is unknown to the 4 leaders of the Awakened, but if that is correct and the leaders of the awakened has sealed the Deathtoll entrance - I wonder what might be the reason, is the place somehow sacred to dragonkind, is something important sealed inside, or is it that something doesn't get out of there? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><hr></blockquote>Hmm it could be they don't want Kerafymn to get out because they fear his power and what he might do to the world if let loose.  But like you say it could be a hollowed ground which is only sacred to those that worship the dragon word and speak the draconic language. 

[Themaginator]

<div><span><blockquote><hr><blockquote><hr></blockquote><p>Actually I think these books refer to Tarinax as "the Mysterious One", when you continue reading the book of power it says something along the lines of:</p><p>"Only a true master of his craft could have accomplished the feat he did - escape the world upon his own death. Tomes I have found indicate that it was only through the power of a mysterious race of void-travellers that he was captured. Perhaps I will find more when I continue my research"</p><p>Which would to some degree explain why the Soul of Tarinax was locked up at the Obelisk of the Lost Souls, assuming the soul container you retrieve for the orc general in the quest at feerrott speaks about the same entity. Also the book of sacrifice at Sanctum of Scaleborn had some more lore about "the mysterious one" which if i remember correctly mentioned that the "mysterious one" is unknown to the 4 leaders of the Awakened, but if that is correct and the leaders of the awakened has sealed the Deathtoll entrance - I wonder what might be the reason, is the place somehow sacred to dragonkind, is something important sealed inside, or is it that something doesn't get out of there? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><hr></blockquote>The generals dont fear him they are on his side, supposedly Deathtoll is a dragon necropolis so yes it is very sacred to the dragons but maybe they are hiding something else. oh and the 5 dragons are Tarinax-undead one, Gorenaire-white one, Lord Vyem-blue one, Harla Dar-purple one, and Talendor-red one(gorenaires brother)</span></div>

[MoD1133]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>CrazedMutha wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Amana wrote:<div>I will have to fish around in here to find it but I posted up a pic of a line from the sage of ages that talkes about "The Sleepless one" or something.  I think that might be this all might creature that everyone is talking about. </div><p></p><hr><p>Confirmed as Kerafyrm: This is what Turudrumin says when you speak to him as part of Arbiter Seleks access quests..</p></blockquote><img src="http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/7199/kerafyrm0pe.jpg"><hr></blockquote>I think if any dragon would defy the Awakened it would be one of the Crusaders of Veeshan.

[MoD1133]

<div></div><div></div><p>Turadramin does say something about the greatest betrayer of all who made the decree that no dragon would be allowed within deathtoll except himself. This could possibly be Kildrukaun the Ancient who was the Arch Priest of Veeshan and it would have been very unlikely for him to betray Veeshan and worship Kerafyrm, therefore he is referred to as the greatest betrayer by Turadramin. </p><p>Kildrukuan could be hiding the corpse of the possibly dead Kerafyrm in Deathtoll so that most of the Awakened believe he is alive and continue to worship him instead of Veeshan so that they may destroy  the second generation because Kildrkaun did hate us very much.</p><p>Also one of Kildrukauns prophecies did come true that Kerafyrm would unite the ring of scale and the Claws of Veeshan under one faction which is pretty much what has happened because they all worship him now and are called the Awakened.</p><p>Message Edited by MoD1133 on <span class="date_text">03-13-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:22 AM</span></p>

[Ama]

<div></div><div></div><p>Ok we really got compile what we know, what we have, and what we may think might happen.</p><p>We know who all of the 4 dragons are with some of us knowing about the lore behind each dragon.  We have knowledge about Kerafymn *sp* and the sacred dragon area Deathtoll.  *this is my version unfortunately and will do a more detailed compilation later on*</p><p>Now the question remains about Kerafymn since an interesting point was brought up of the dragon betrayer possibly killing Kerafymn. </p><p>***Update***</p><p>I found a bit of interesting quests within the Bonemire.  One is for a droag on a tiny island who desires to seek his master *Don't have the conversation at hand sadly*.  The other Droag is one who is exiled in the bonemire and you seek his tale.  This is one of the newly coveted signature quests as it is marked in my Quest journal.  Below is what he said to me.</p><p>Well, what have we here? A wanderer? A great warrior? A poet? What are you, and why do you come to bother me? Is my failure not already enough?</p><p>*advanced*</p><p>Then Perhaps we shall start with this one - why do you bother me?</p><p>*advanced*</p><p>I have nothing to tell but my own tale. Though it pains me to relate it, I shall do so if you wish. Perhaps my lessons can teach you.</p><p>*advanced*</p><p>I belong to a proud race, and I have failed.  I rose up, out of my place, and attempted something which should not be done by those not of the true blood.</p><p>*advanced*</p><p>Dragonkind.  My race is but a steward, we are here merely to erve and protect that which we are assigned guardianship over.  I sought to further my own role- to develop a true kinship with my betters. Alas, I have failed.</p><p>*advanced*</p><p>Exactly how, I cannot say.  Suffice it to say that my trials were not successful.  You should learn from this.  Do not attempt that which you cannot succeed.</p><p>*advanced*</p><p>You? I do not think so.  However, there was one erudite who had been attempting them.  Perhaps he has had more success than even I.  I do not know for certain.</p><p>*advanced*</p><p>Seek out the book he left behind in the Sanctum of the Scaleborn, my old home.  I am certain he was writing works on the dragons themselves, but I know not what he has discovered.</p><p> </p><p>This is very interesting and raises up some more points that we will have to look into.</p><p>Message Edited by Amana on <span class="date_text">03-14-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:09 PM</span></p>

[Siufu]

I am still trying to figure out the creation of Droag. Maybe I missed some dialog from the Claymore quest or the Infiltrating Sanctum quest. Here is what I am guessing:Droag captured Frogloks to create more Droags. They killed the Frogloks deep in the Sanctum and used the spirits in a ritual. Then new Droag is created. So any soul can be used to create Droag, and this is what happened to Kyle Bayle, although the process is not finished, that's why he is still in form of a spirit. Kyle Bayle knows some secret of Qeynos Claymore, that's why Kerafyrm want him and get his soul from Obelisk.<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

^ Don't you mean Tarinax?

[Nocturnal Aby]

<P>I'm surprised no one has posted the transcripts from the Lore and Legend book on the Droag, seeing as how that would have a lot to do with the original question.  Just a little bit of a summary of what we have compiled here coupled with some things I know:</P> <P>Droag were created by the Dragons to serve their needs (be it errand boys, constuction workers, archoelogists, and any other menial task they deem unwrothy for themselves).  It looks like the exact process can be found out by doing the Qeynos Claymore line, since that is the one where we help Kyle (sure it's not Kane?  He was the infamous traitor of Qeynos).</P> <P>The Droag are split between two masters, High Priestess Harla Dar, spiritual leader of the Cult of the Awakened, and Lord Vyemm, an arcane scientist (no, not the kind from Freeport, a true arcane scientist who studies both the scientific realm as well as that of magik), who leads the Doomwing Legions (more on this in a sec)</P> <P>All of the Dragons on the opening screen are followers of Kerafyrm, aka, the Sleeper, which would explain his new title: the Awakened.  Kerafyrm is (at least to date) the only known Prismatic Dragon, born to two dragons of opposing elements, thus creating a kind of super dragon.  Harla Dar, Gorenaire, Talendor, and Lord Vyemm, without a doubt, view Kerafyrm as a god, and have lead their Droag minions to believe as much.  Kerafyrm has apparently promised that he would lead them to the elimination of the weaker races (following in the foot steps of his mentor, who, oddly enough, was the most vehemently opposed to the creation of a Prismatic Dragon...at least before one was created), his mentor being Kildrukaun, I have a real bad time with names, so please forgive the spelling errors.  His mentor (at least back in the day, haven't heard much about him in this expansion) viewed Kerafyrm as a GIFT from Veeshan, something of a prophetic hero who would unite all wurm-kind together, and wipe away the blemish of the second born, ie, elves, giants, trolls, ogres, goblins, dwarves, gnomes, orcs, and pretty much any other race not created by Veeshan.</P> <P>Kerafyrm left and helped to blow up Luclin (that is hinted in several places, as well as the post that had a screenshot of the Sage of Ages aka Darathar telling someone working on the Pris 1 quest to look to the sky for evidence of the power of a prismatic dragon), Luclin blowing up=The Shattering, which occurred roughly 15 years prior to the launch of EQ2, not to be confused with the Rending, which took place much earlier, at the end of the Age of War, signifying the beginning of the Age of Cataclysms (some people say as early as 75 years prior to EQ2 launch, some say centuries earlier, I can't tell you one way or another, lore sources are very vague on this)</P> <P>Kerafyrm hasn't returned since he helped cause the Shattering, Lordy Vyemm doesn't think he is coming back, and so is preparing to take what was promised the Awakaned (that being Norrath) without the direct aid of Kerafyrm, the Droag that have sided with him in this belief make up the Doomwing Legion.  On the opposite side is High Priestess Harla Dar, who awaits the return of their god, so that he may lead them to their inheritance (Veeshan gave the world to her brood, this the other races are trespassing).  Gorenaire and Talendor fight amongst themselves as much as anyone else while trying to extend their own personal influence within the Cult.  These are the four main leaders among the Cult of the Awakened, they have other drakes, wurms, a few drakota, and even some weaker (probably younger) dragons also under their influence.</P> <P>On Kerafyrm:</P> <P>Prismatic dragon worshipped by the Cult of the Awakened, and wanted dead (at least I hope they don't want to make him go to sleep again) by the RIng of Scale and the Claws of Veeshan, the two elder dragon houses.  They see the Cult as an abomination to Veeshan.  It is commonly believed he was born to Dozekar and an unknown (at least to us) female back before the Age of Turmoil (EQ1).</P> <P>Vox and Nagafen were imprisoned by the Ring of Scale at least a millenia (1000 years) BEFORE the Age of Turmoil for trying to create prismatic offspring, so it may be assumed that Kerafyrm existed before that.  Since the Rending, they have succeeded in making many prismatic eggs, which is a very chilling thought in and of itself, however they have no real relation to Kerafyrm or the Cult of the Awakened, or anything, except perhaps wanting them out of the way so that their own prismatic army can grow without rivalry, well, just Naggy now, since Darathar and his drokata killed Vox, and destroyed almost all of the prismatic eggs in her posession.</P> <P>I think that about covers it...</P> <P>If Vhalen or another dev would like to post and confirm all of this, it would be GREATLY appreciated =P</P> <P> </P> <P>Keeper of Lore</P> <P>Endless Source of Useless Information</P>

[Kikena]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nocturnal Abyss wrote:<BR> <P>Keeper of Lore</P> <P>Endless Source of Useless Information</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>LOL!  :smileyvery-happy:</P> <P>Nice job on the post.<BR></P>

[Jindrack]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nocturnal Abyss wrote:<BR> <P><snip></P> <P>If Vhalen or another dev would like to post and confirm all of this, it would be GREATLY appreciated =P</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>It looks like someone has been keeping up on their Dragon lore. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  There is some good speculation in there as well, but as the White House Press Secretary likes to say "I cannot confirm nor deny that information." <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 

[Jindrack]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Siufu wrote:<BR>I am still trying to figure out the creation of Droag. Maybe I missed some dialog from the Claymore quest or the Infiltrating Sanctum quest. Here is what I am guessing:<BR><BR>Droag captured Frogloks to create more Droags. They killed the Frogloks deep in the Sanctum and used the spirits in a ritual. Then new Droag is created. So any soul can be used to create Droag, and this is what happened to Kyle Bayle, although the process is not finished, that's why he is still in form of a spirit. Kyle Bayle knows some secret of Qeynos Claymore, that's why Kerafyrm want him and get his soul from Obelisk.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>The Infiltrating the Sanctum quests shed some light on what the Sanctum of the Scaleborn is and what is occuring with the Soulrending ritual.  They aren't creating Droags, something else is the intent of those rituals.

[Lornick]

I completed that quest line, but I don't recall exactly what they were doing.  I think it was along the lines of using the souls to create super soldiers.

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lornick wrote:<BR> I completed that quest line, but I don't recall exactly what they were doing.  I think it was along the lines of using the souls to create super soldiers.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Exactly.

[FlintAH]

They are sucking froglok souls into droag to make them into reavers.<div></div>

[Siufu]

I like it when I saw the Froglok died and changed to non-kos spirit, and then run pass the hallway to another room with many other tormented spirits. This small detail has nothing to do with any quest (you don't need to save him or kill those non-kos spirit) but it tell you something is happening there. Also the Droag spent a lot of power in the ritual, that is why there are some recovering soulrenders.It just puzzled me how Droag is created especially in the case of Kyle Bayle. And what kind of super soldiers are they creating?<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Siufu wrote:<BR>I like it when I saw the Froglok died and changed to non-kos spirit, and then run pass the hallway to another room with many other tormented spirits. This small detail has nothing to do with any quest (you don't need to save him or kill those non-kos spirit) but it tell you something is happening there. Also the Droag spent a lot of power in the ritual, that is why there are some recovering soulrenders.<BR><BR>It just puzzled me how Droag is created especially in the case of Kyle Bayle. And what kind of super soldiers are they creating?<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Imagine a Droag version of Captain America and add Frankenstien in as the way they get created.

[Siufu]

This is the text from Lore and Legend: Droag. Nothing much about the origin of Droag, just for the reference.<b>"Scales in Balance"</b> The scale tilts one way or the other, precariously balancing one side against the other."Hush, hush! It's the Herald!" Shazoor nudged her brother into silence.The Herald of High Priestess Dar could be very strict, though he had once seemed to smile at them at a meeting of the faithful.It had been a very long time since the Herald had come to preside over another such meeting.Resherr grumbled beneath his breath, "I do not understand this waiting. The Herald always preaches that we must be patient. All I ask is for proof."Shazoor hissed at him, "The adults are looking; be silent!"Even though her brother fell silent, her heart filled with foreboding.The unrest had not spread far in their community.Small, crowded and far from the temples at the heart of the Overrealm, Shazoor and Resherr's home island was not often visited by the religious leaders of the Awakened.Yet, even in this furthest and most insignificant outpost, the words of Lord Vyemm were heard.The Herald's ceremonies and rituals took quite a long while to prepare, much less conduct.To Resherr, it was precisely this time wasting behavior that Lord Vyemm spoke against. Why shouldn't he, Resherr, be able to choose how he wanted to spend his time?If he could choose, he would not spend the day like this.Shazoor felt her brother's impatient twitching and rolled her eyes.Could he not sit still, just once? How hard could it be to let the Herald take them through the rituals again?Even if Resherr were losing his faith, was that any reason for him to worry her, especially during the ceremonies? They brought such comfort.The Herald's voice droned on and on. Occasionally, the Herald would gesture toward one of his attendants.The attendant brought forth an offering prepared especially for that part of the ritual and the Herald completed its sacrifice.At those moments, Shazoor would close her eyes briefly, for she still remembered the look in one of the offering's eyes when she had sat too close to the altars that time.As prayers to Him rose around them, Resherr hissed at his sister, "Finally. I'm getting out of here."He thrust his way through the crowd, ignoring the hisses of those he pushed aside. Resherr had had enough of ceremony and ritual.Let Him appreciate these useless things all He wanted; Resherr was ready for action!With a murmured apology, Shazoor followed her brother from the ceremonial grounds.The paths were deserted, since everyone else was at the temple to see the Herald. Resherr, his wings twitching defiantly, was striding briskly away.She had to half-run, half-fly to catch up with him."I'm leaving," Resherr said as she aproached. He didn't pause or turn to look at her."You find comfort in these things but I do not," he said. "It is quite clear that our time is now, yet the High Priestess wastes our advantage waiting for His word."Resherr finally stopped at the edge of the island and narrowed his eyes. "He has already spoken; the time is now.""No, Resherr," Shazoor said, her own eyes glinting."You are listening to lies! Lord Vyemm seeks only his own glory, not His glory," Shazoor closed the gap between them and continued, "We are to wait. Will you not listen for His true word?"Resherr snarled, "I have listened long enough.""So be it," Shazoor said, unsheathing her weapon and leaping upon her brother.He was unprepared for her assault, for Shazoor had always been the weaker sibling and never aggressor.As she slashed him to the ground, Shazoor repeated fervently, "I do what He asks, with patience and in reverence. He will guide His us to our destiny!"<div></div>

[Coniaric]

I'm curious ... won't those souls being used to resurrect the dead dragons - like Jaled and Fraka Dars?

[Mareth]

I'm just level 53 and just got the dragon language. Good to see I have LOADS of dragon lore to look forward to <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[The-Fourm-Pirate]

I wonder if Barakah/Siyamak have anything to do with KoS lore, they are the only dragons of the Desert of Ro and the 5th and 6th dragons in the game (after Naggy/Vox/Darathar/contested Venekor). Since they are both Crusaiders, assumedly of Veeshan, i'd be willing to bet niether of them are too happy with the awakened.

[ranger1]

Im just wondering if  there is a connection to The Awakening and the returning of the gods.  Ok, I guess I should say what the connection is because I don't think anything happens in Norrath without the gods being connected somehow. I have to believe that some of the gods have and will continue to play a pivitol role what has and will happen.  My speculation is that with some of the gods being a little upset with us thinking we can challenge them, this is a way for them to not only hurt us, but distract us.  Since some of the gods seem to still think pretty highly of us, it could explain why he sleeps, and hasn't attempted to take ove Norath yet.

[Ama]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ranger1 wrote:<BR> Im just wondering if  there is a connection to The Awakening and the returning of the gods.  Ok, I guess I should say what the connection is because I don't think anything happens in Norrath without the gods being connected somehow. I have to believe that some of the gods have and will continue to play a pivitol role what has and will happen.  My speculation is that with some of the gods being a little upset with us thinking we can challenge them, this is a way for them to not only hurt us, but distract us.  Since some of the gods seem to still think pretty highly of us, it could explain why he sleeps, and hasn't attempted to take ove Norath yet.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I'm very glad to see this is still going on, The Awakening and the returning of the gods imho may have a tiny connection but who knows. </P> <P>I am still pondering Jindrack's little statement here:</P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>It looks like someone has been keeping up on their Dragon lore. <IMG height=16 src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" width=16 border=0> There is some good speculation in there as well, but as the White House Press Secretary likes to say "I cannot confirm nor deny that information." <IMG height=16 src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" width=16 border=0></FONT> </P> <P>Something tells me these devs know atleast 100x more lore than what I previously thought they knew.  I think a little bit of weaving is going on behind the scenes here but what is this weaving though? </P> <P>I believe Vahlen once said *paraphrasing here* that everything in EQII has been predestined, Pre ordained, and pre written however you have to wonder just how much of this is predestined. </P> <P>Can't wait to complete the Infiltrating the Sanctum Quest ending with Cynadrous, Lord of the Sanctum.</P>