Intelligent Races/Species?

[Mary the Prophetess]

<div></div><div></div><div>I am curious to know exactly how many intelligent races/species exist in all the various worlds of Norrath; (EQ OnLine Adventures, EQ Live, EQ2, EQ RPG)</div><div> </div><div>The criteria for intelligence would include self-awarareness, language, and /or the use of tools,</div><div> </div><div>For instance, the various varieties of Sirens would qualify under the definition because they are capable of speech, and of self-awareness, as well as possessing tools.</div><div> </div><div>Likewise Faries would fall into the same category.</div><div> </div><div>Even Minotaurs (because they use weapons [tools]) would qualify.</div><div> </div><div>The Undead I am uncertain of how to classify;  Some, such as Vampires are highly intelligent;  others like Zombies are merely automatons.</div><div> </div><div>I have a feeling the number is in triple digits.  </div><p>Message Edited by Mary the Prophetess on <span class="date_text">02-19-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:30 AM</span></p>

[dalaorn_eq2]

<div></div><div></div>I'm not sure vampires count as a separate species.  Aren't they just dark elves and humans who have been twisted into bloodthirsty abominations?Maybe we can list all the nonplayable sentients from EQ1, EQ2, and EQOA in this thread, starting with the ones I can remember:AviaksRatmen (not ratonga)KoboldsGnollsOrcs <font size="1">(they SHOULD be playable... would be great city-raid fodder on PvP)</font>Drachnids (where the heck are they??)LizardmenBixiesFairies/Sirens/DryadsGoblinsCentaursTreantsSlish'tar<font size="1">(EQOA-exclusive as far as I know... dirty, pestilent flying -things- with beaks for heads and torn-up wings, built tons of giant nests in desert of Ro)</font>Chik'tar <font size="1">(also EQOA... locust-like creatures who produce honey and have centaur-like builds.  like EQ2's bixies, only locust-like)</font>GiantsCyclopsMinotaursLycanthropes <font size="1">(now where've THEY been in EQ2?)</font>ShissarEvil EyesEttins <font size="1">(probably wrong on their sentience; I think they only exist in EQ2, they might be mere flesh golems controlled by lizardmen)<font size="3">SarnakDragonsHarpiesNaga</font></font><font size="1"><font size="3">Jal'Raeth</font></font><font size="1"><font size="3">DjinnSphinxes</font></font>And what about those purple apes in this game, the Brutes/Huuptics?  Is anything known about them enough to assess sentience?<div></div><p>Message Edited by dalaorn_eq2 on <span class="date_text">02-19-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:33 AM</span></p>

[Cusashorn]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div>Having never played EQOA, I'll just use his list and add onto it. However I don't know if golems, undead (and undead vampires), Elementals, Scarecrows, or any other artificialy/unnaturally created creatures should count.</div><div> </div><div>Humans</div><div>Barbarians</div><div>Erudites</div><div>Dwarves</div><div>Trolls</div><div>Iksar</div><div>Ogres</div><div>Gnomes</div><div>Halflings</div><div>Frogloks</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>KoboldsGnollsOrcsDrachnidsLizardmen</div><div>Brownies</div><div>OthmirFairies</div><div>Nymphs</div><div>Unicorns</div><div>Sirens</div><div>DryadsGoblinsCentaurs</div><div>MermaidsTreantsGiantsCyclopsLycanthropes <font size="1">(now where've THEY been in EQ2?)</font>ShissarBeholders (Evil Eyes)Ettins (If they were *REALLY* what most other folklore decrees, they'd be two-headed cyclops, but yes, It's debatable if they're sentient or intellegent)<font size="1"><font size="3">Harpies</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">Naga</font></font><font size="1"><font size="3">Jal'Raeth <font color="#66cc00">(Who? What?)</font></font></font><font size="1"><font size="3">DjinnSphinxes</font></font></div><div><font size="3">Huuptic (They show signs of primitive intellegence, but maybe not sentients just yet.)</font></div><div><font size="3">Numbfoots (Unlike the Huuptic, these guys ARE sentient)</font><font size="1"><font size="3">Akhevans</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">Grimlings</font></font></div><div><font size="3">Thought HorrorsAmygdalians</font></div><div><font size="3">Luggalds</font></div><div><font size="3">The Burynai</font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">The Kedge</font></font></div><div><font size="3">Drolvargs</font></div><div><font size="3">Vampyre Volatilis (Also known as the Coterie Vampires, these natural vampires are found on Luclin. They are not undead, but vampires nonetheless.) </font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">Lamias</font></font></div><div><font size="3">Nightbloods</font></div><div><font size="3">Shadowmen</font></div><div><font size="3">Scorpikis</font></div><div><font size="3">Geonids</font></div><div><font size="3">Efreeti</font></div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3">Elves:</font></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div>-Fier'Dal (Wood)</div><div>-Koada'Dal (High)</div><div>-Tier'Dal (Dark)</div><div>-Ayr'Dal (Half)</div><div>-Sand Elves (Elvish name unknown, these elves stood behind in Takish'Hiz instead of moving to Feydwere. Using Geomancy, they replaced thier natural bodies with that of Sand, so they would not decay with time or die of starvation.)</div></blockquote><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">Catmen:</font></font></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Kerran</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-</font></font><font size="1"><font size="3">Vah'Shir</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Kejekan</font></font></div></blockquote><div><font size="3">Galorians:</font></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Goranga</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Tarmok</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Sambata</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Gantru</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-The Bloodtribe</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3"></font></font> </div></blockquote><div><font size="1"><font size="3">Tegi:</font></font></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Centi</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Gor Taku</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Tro Jeg</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Vas Ren</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Grol aku</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Shak Dratha</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Gral Baku</font></font></div><div><font size="3">-Grol Baku</font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Cral Ligi</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Tegi</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Meeda Hune</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Fyr Jen</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Syl Ren</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3"></font></font> </div></blockquote><div><font size="1"><font size="3">Insectoids:</font></font></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Bixies</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Shik'Nar</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Slish'tar <font size="1">(EQOA-exclusive as far as I know... dirty, pestilent flying -things- with beaks for heads and torn-up wings, built tons of giant nests in desert of Ro)</font>-Chik'tar <font size="1">(also EQOA... locust-like creatures who produce honey and have centaur-like builds.  like EQ2's bixies, only locust-like)</font></font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Ravasect</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3"></font></font> </div></blockquote><div><font size="1"><font size="3">Birdmen:</font></font></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Aviak</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Spiroc</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Hooluk</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Vultak</font></font></div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3"></font> </div></blockquote><div><font size="3">Fungusmen:</font></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div>-Sporali</div><div>-Myconid</div><div>-Sensate (a speicies of semi-sentient fungus that lives in Paludal Caverns. They are self aware, and in some cases can linguistically communicate.)</div></blockquote><div><font size="3">Beastmen:</font></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div><font size="3">-Minotaurs</font></div><div><font size="3">-Tizmak</font></div><div><font size="3">-Satyrs</font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3"></font></font> </div></blockquote><div><font size="1"><font size="3">Dragonoids:</font></font></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Sarnak</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-The Kly</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Droag</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Dragorn</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3"></font></font> </div></blockquote><div><font size="1"><font size="3">Veeshanites (a word I just made up but you understand what I mean by it):</font></font></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Dragons</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Wyrms</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Drakes</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Chromodracs (drakes with insect wings found in Skyfire Mountains)</font></font></div><div><font size="3">-Drixies (Drakes with Fairy wings)</font></div><div><font size="3">-Wyvern</font></div><div><font size="3">-Drakota</font></div></blockquote><div><font size="1"><font size="3">Ratmen:</font></font></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Ratonga</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Roekillik</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Paebala</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Chetari</font></font></div><div><font size="3">-Ratmen (official name unknown, these were ratmen who lived in The Hole in EQlive)</font></div></blockquote><div><font size="3">Pinnepidaens (Another made up word, but based off thier animal kingdom Order, Pinnepidae, due to a lack of a better or officially known name):</font></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div><font size="3">-Ulthork</font></div><div><font size="3">-Molkor</font></div><div><font size="3">-Bulthar</font></div></blockquote><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3"></font><font size="1"><font size="3">The Legion of Mata Muram:</font></font></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Kyv</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Mastruq</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Anuek</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Ukun</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Ra'Tuk</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Noc</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Ikaav</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Ixt</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Huval</font></font></div></blockquote><div><font size="1"><font size="3">Native Taelosians:</font></font></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Yunjo</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Harindi</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Trusik</font></font></div><div><font size="1"><font size="3"></font></font> </div></blockquote><div><font size="1"><font size="3">Riftseekers:</font></font></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div><font size="1"><font size="3">-Girplan</font></font></div><div><font size="3">-Pyrilen</font></div><div><font size="3">-Gelidran</font></div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3"></font> </div></blockquote><div><font size="3">There's also a few species of semi-sentient plants located across Norrath, but they're not civilized or intellegent.</font></div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3">I'm listing creatures from Expansion that don't exist in the EQ2 timeline, but he wished to know anyway.</font></div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3">For all intents and purposes, I didn't list any creatures from the Planes of Power, but rather only creatures actually located ON Norrath. I also didn't mention any creatures from the Plane of Fear, Plane of Hate, Plane of Growth, Plane of Sky, or Plane of Mischief too unless they also existed on Norrath at one time or another (such as the Amygdalians for example.)</font></div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3">I also did not list any creatures introduced with EQlive's Dragons of Norrath or Depths of Darkhollow expansions as I stopped playing EQ before they came out.</font></div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3"></font><font size="1"><font size="3">I remember reading a story from the Plane of Knowledge library that mentioned a Wolf race, Bear race, and one other animal race who lived in the Unkempt woods, which was never officialy a zone in Eqlive, but I heard it is in EQOA. I forget thier names though.</font></font></div><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class="date_text">02-19-2006</span><span class="time_text">06:25 PM</span></p>

[dalaorn_eq2]

<span><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>Having never played EQOA, I'll just use his list and add onto it. However I don't know if golems, undead (and undead vampires), Elementals, Scarecrows, or any other artificialy/unnaturally created creatures should count.</div><div><hr size="2" width="100%"></div></blockquote><div>Elementals are probably sentient, having their own language which they also happen to share with Evil Eyes.  I don't think golems are sentient, and scarecrows are probably on a case-by-case basis (the ones in Antonica speak in Thulian, which strikes me as odd because I think the gnolls created those specific ones roaming Antonica, and as far as I know, gnolls were never really the kind of race to associate themselves with Cazicitic beliefs).</div><blockquote><div><hr size="2" width="100%"><font size="1"><font size="3">Jal'Raeth <font color="#66cc00">(Who? What?)</font></font></font><hr size="2" width="100%"></div></blockquote><div><font size="1"><font size="3">These were also EQOA specific as far as I know (perhaps they existed but had a different name in EQ1).  They were found inhabiting a compound called the Tomb City of Envar, located by the southwestmost beaches of the Feerrott.  I believe this is the former fortress of the Tal'Thex mentioned in the clickable tome next to the merchant in Maj'Dul, which mentions that as the location of where the sand elves hid and locked away some kind of dark secret (a nearby tiny island by this tomb city also has an uber raid mob, a Thexian ruler whose name I forgot).  The Jal'Raeth (image at http://everquestonlineadventures.station.sony.com/images/monsters/jalraeth.jpg) were outsiders of Norrath, but having never been able to find a group to do all the Envar quests and pick up on what they're bout, I'm not certain of their lore.  I do know Rodcet Nife appeared in EQOA once at the end of the Bertoxxulian plague events as a Jal'Raeth, but this is likely to raise hairs from EQ1 players and there's been enough EQOA-vs-EQ1 bickering on this forum before.</font></font><font size="1"><font size="3">Also another race from EQOA only are the Kappas (http://everquestonlineadventures.station.sony.com/images/monsters/kappa.jpg).  Pretty much look more or less as they are described in Japanese folklore.  They were slaves of a short-lived Naga empire that resided on Odus, ruled by one naga named Sylhilthis.</font></font></div><blockquote><div><font size="1"><font size="3"></font></font></div><hr size="2" width="100%"><font size="3">There's also a few species of semi-sentient plants located across Norrath, but they're not civilized or intellegent.</font><hr size="2" width="100%"></blockquote>Are they in EQ2?<blockquote><div><hr size="2" width="100%"><font size="1"><font size="3">I remember reading a story from the Plane of Knowledge library that mentioned a Wolf race, Bear race, and one other animal race who lived in the Unkempt woods, which was never officialy a zone in Eqlive, but I heard it is in EQOA. I forget thier names though.</font></font></div><hr></blockquote>I'm not sure if they were actually races, but they were lycanthropes who had operated through secretive and underground societies more or less.  I sort of wish the EQOA developers kept it that way, Freeport looks like a zoo.Also add Hobgoblins to the list.  They do exist in both EQOA and EQ1.  Perhaps they changed over the years and became lanky and upright and are now the Grimmins?</span><div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<div>Yes, all scarecrows speak Thulian. Antonica, Thundering Steppes, and Rivervale. They're symbolic with Fear though, as they are called SCAREcrows for a reason.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>There arn't any plants in EQ2 yet, the Carnivorous Plants in KoS will probably be the first.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Elementals though, are for the most part, artificially conjured up, despite numerous examples far and wide of them existing naturally, but thier explanations are unknown. Yes, they do speak Druziac, the Magic Language, which is what Evil Eyes also speak. Golems speak the same as well.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div>And Hobgoblins don't exist on Norrath in EQlive. Only in the Plane of Nightmares, which is why I didn't include them. But you say they're in EQOA, so that's cool.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Wow. Those Kappas need a facelife if you say they look pretty much like they do in Japanese folklore.</div>

[Pyrrhx]

<div></div><div></div><p>Guess I could try and add just a little...</p><p>Per EQOA..</p><ul><li>Gargoyles (on odus)</li><li>..name evades me.. Pan-like creatures (on odus)</li><li>The Grizz (Ape-men; lived in a secluded cave in the stonebrunt mtns; existed neolithically, had shamans and a chief)</li></ul><p>And yea... everytime I smashed one of those Kappas, I thought... Gee, you're pretty ugly Donatello...</p><p>Message Edited by Pyrrhx on <span class="date_text">02-20-2006</span><span class="time_text">02:08 PM</span></p>

[Cusashorn]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Pyrrhx wrote:<ul><li>..name evades me.. Pan-like creatures (on odus)</li></ul><hr></blockquote>I already mentioned Satyrs

[DreamerClou]

<div></div>Are fungusmen(people?) located on Norrath as well?

[Cusashorn]

<div>Yep. Sporali and Myconid.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Hey I forgot to mention the fungusmen in Splitpaw. Do they have an official name again? I can't check right now.</div>

[Nainitsuj]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div> However I don't know if golems, undead (and undead vampires), Elementals, Scarecrows, or any other artificialy/unnaturally created creatures should count.<hr></div></blockquote><p>Know your golem specifically states that animated objects are not sentient.  So elementals, golems, scarecrows etc wouldn't be.</p><p>However.. vampires are clearly aware of their existance.  Ghosts (in some cases) are fully aware as well. </p><p> </p>

[Cusashorn]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Nainitsuj wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div> However I don't know if golems, undead (and undead vampires), Elementals, Scarecrows, or any other artificialy/unnaturally created creatures should count.<hr></div></blockquote><p>Know your golem specifically states that animated objects are not sentient.  So elementals, golems, scarecrows etc wouldn't be.</p><p>However.. vampires are clearly aware of their existance.  Ghosts (in some cases) are fully aware as well. </p><p> </p><hr></blockquote>Thats because they USED to be alive. That's something entirely different.