what race what god?

[Bumbleb]

<div>what race followed what god?</div><div> </div><div>like a high elf warden, what god would they prey to if they still influanced norrath.</div>

[Cusashorn]

<div>Race alone doesn't indicate which god they worship. Most of the time in Eqlive, the class you chose did.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>That said:</div><div> </div><div>Cazic Thule created the Iksar</div><div> </div><div>Cazic Thule and Innoruuk created the Trolls</div><div> </div><div>Rallos Zek created the Ogres, Giants, Orcs, and Goblins</div><div> </div><div>Erollisi Marr and Mithanial Marr created the Barbarians</div><div> </div><div>Mithanial Marr created the Frogloks</div><div> </div><div>Brell Serilis created the Dwarves, Gnomes, Gnolls, and Ratonga (allegedly)</div><div> </div><div>Tunare created the Wood Elves and High Elves</div><div> </div><div>Fizzlethorp Bristlebane created the Halflings</div><div> </div><div>Innoruuk created the Dark Elves</div><div> </div><div>Humans evolved from Barbarians</div><div> </div><div>Erudites evolved from Humans</div><div> </div><div>Kerrans just... evolved. They weren't created by any known god, but thier origin of existance has never been revealed either.</div>

[Aer]

<div></div>I am in no way an EQ expert, but I'll try and answer a little.First off, a high elf warden would most like worship Tunare.  That is because the Elves were created by Tunare and she is kind of their Patron goddess.  Although High elves couldn't be druids in EQ, wood elves could, and most of them, if not all were Tunare worshippers.  I can't remember if it was the only choice, but know my main was a druid under Tunare.Now for the rest:Gnomes - Brell or Bristlebane seem commonHalflings - Bristlebane I believe, or Karana for the druidsErudites - Prexus and Quillious for good guys, Cazic thule for baddies.High elves - See postWood elves - see post, also Bristlebane was a choice, but as far as a main god for them, I'm not sure.Kerran - Well, the Vah Shir were agnostic, I do believe Kerran believed in the "spirits" of nature and no main god though.Dark Elves - Innorruk mainly.  Think the other badies were worshiped to, but not as their main gods.Iksar - Cazic Thule?  I can't remember honeslty, him or Zek I believeOgre/Troll - I get confused on Iksar, Ogres, and Trolls.  Pretty sure Trolls were Innorruk or Cazic Thule since they were in Innothule swamp.  Ogres = Zek?Dwarf - Brell most definatleyBarbarian - Ehhh, I'd say The Marr twins.  Oh and the Tribunal I believe was their main god(s).Humans - I believe Erollisi Marr was their sorta "push" to their evolution from Barbarians, but they seem all around in their diety worshipRatonga - Brell?Also, some classes sorta had their own Gods they liked over their races creator/patron diety.  For instance, the necros in Qeynos Worshiped the god of Disease, berx.Sure someone else will come in here and fix my mistakes and improve upon things, if not, glad to help you mildly.  Edit - And Cusa beat me anyways, and like he said, class seemed to play a big role in diety choice. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div><p>Message Edited by Aerio on <span class="date_text">02-15-2006</span><span class="time_text">06:29 PM</span></p>

[iceriven2]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>Race alone doesn't indicate which god they worship. Most of the time in Eqlive, the class you chose did.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>That said:</div><div> </div><div>Cazic Thule created the Iksar</div><div> </div><div>Cazic Thule and Innoruuk created the Trolls</div><div> </div><div>Rallos Zek created the Ogres, Giants, Orcs, and Goblins</div><div><font color="#ffff00">Goblins came to be from the ashes of another Zek creation...Anxafen(spelling)</font></div><div>Erollisi Marr and Mithanial Marr created the Barbarians</div><div> </div><div>Mithanial Marr created the Frogloks</div><div><font color="#ffff00">I know Some frogloks were blessed by Mithanial but were they really created by him?</font></div><div>Brell Serilis created the Dwarves, Gnomes, Gnolls, and Ratonga (allegedly)</div><div> </div><div>Tunare created the Wood Elves and High Elves</div><div><font color="#ffff00">Wood and High Elves evolved from the Elddar Elves Which were created by Tunare</font></div><div>Fizzlethorp Bristlebane created the Halflings</div><div> </div><div>Innoruuk created the Dark Elves</div><div><font color="#ffff00">Dark Elves were created from the Elddar Elves, But i do agree credit must go to Innoruuk</font></div><div>Humans evolved from Barbarians</div><div> </div><div>Erudites evolved from Humans</div><div> </div><div>Kerrans just... evolved. They weren't created by any known god, but thier origin of existance has never been revealed either.</div><hr></blockquote>I basically agree over all with what was written above... I just thought these little Notes were needed to better understand some of the complexity

[Cusashorn]

<div></div><blockquote><p></p><hr><p>iceriven2 wrote:</p><p>I basically agree over all with what was written above... I just thought these little Notes were needed to better understand some of the complexity</p><p></p><hr></blockquote>Although for the point of this discussion, such details aren't needed to be mentioned.

[Mary the Prophetess]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><p>If our own, (real life), history is to serve as a model:</p><p>In any, [empire/realm/civilization/milieu], where there is a high degree of interaction, (and such is the case on Norrath), the entire pantheon is widely known, not just a single god, or goddess.</p><p>Most ordinary citizens would pay homage to most, (if not all), the dieties.  They would, however, devote themselves, (especially), to one or two.</p><p>This would be determined by culture, (in the case of Norrath this equates most closely with racial),  profession, (class),  and attributes, (goddes of love, god of storms, goddess of the hunt, god of the sea, etc.)</p><p>Whom an individual might worship is influenced by all of the above, and is most probably highly situational as well;  A couple desiring children, might pay special devotion to the goddess of fertility, and then (assuming their prayers were answered), may later pray to the goddess of healing to cure a disease in a child.  They may pray to the god of the harvest for a good crop, and may 'hedge' their bets by also praying to the god of storms.</p><p>Keep in mind, however, that 'praying' usually involved making offerings, which wasn't cheap.  The greater the offering, (supposedly), the greater chance of being heard.  This, (of course), would be clearly pointed out by the priests of whichever temple a person desired to worship at.</p><p>In the minds of ordinary folk, the gods had power over the forces of nature and of life, upon which people depended.  What's worse they were capricious, indifferent, and quite possibly vindictive.</p><p>Worship was not a matter of personal choice, but rather was a necessity for survival.  People lived their lives 'walking on eggshells', not really knowing if their actions, (no matter how innocent or trivial), might be mis-interpreted by one or another diety, and their lives destroyed as a consequence.</p><p>People lived in hope and in fear of the gods.</p><p>In EQ, the racial gods and goddesses seem to take a pre-emminent position for the citizens of Norrath, followed by class choices.</p><p><span class="time_text"></span> </p><p>Message Edited by Mary the Prophetess on <span class="date_text">02-15-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:33 PM</span></p>

[Rylight]

<div></div><p>and yes iksar = cazic thule.</p><p>trolls and dark elves also have a switching history</p><p>trolls were made by innoruk I think, and they were very beautiful creatures, but cazic thule tricked and cursed their princess(?) turning them into what they are today (im not even sure trolls are smart enough to acknowledge paying tribute to either god, lol)</p><p>I think dark elves were originally high elves(?), until innoruk(?) took the queen and king into darkness and tortured and manipulated them for years, eventually twisting them into there dark form.</p><p>I swear I knew the whole froglock thing but it escapes me, I'm not sure who they were originally created from (maybe just plain frogs) but they were indeed blessed by mithanial marr.</p>

[troodon311]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Aerio wrote:<div></div>Ogre/Troll - I get confused on Iksar, Ogres, and Trolls.  Pretty sure Trolls were Innorruk or Cazic Thule since they were in Innothule swamp.  Ogres = Zek?<hr></blockquote><p>Iksar were Cazic Thule only.</p><p>Trolls could worship Innoruuk, Cazic Thule, or Rallos Zek.</p><p>Ogres were Rallos Zek or Cazic Thule.  I don't remember them being able to worship Innoruuk.</p><p>Not that it really matters anymore, if my Troll can become a Fury then you can worship whomever you [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] well please</p>

[firemonkey5]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>iceriven2 wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>Race alone doesn't indicate which god they worship. Most of the time in Eqlive, the class you chose did.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>That said:</div><div> </div><div>Cazic Thule created the Iksar</div><div> </div><div>Cazic Thule and Innoruuk created the Trolls</div><div><font color="#0099ff">Cazic Thule is the only creator of the Trolls as per EQ2 main page.</font></div><div>Rallos Zek created the Ogres, Giants, Orcs, and Goblins</div><div><font color="#ffff00">Goblins came to be from the ashes of another Zek creation...Anxafen(spelling)</font></div><div><font color="#0099ff">Which still seems to be debated. Not alot of lore to confirm or deny it.</font></div><div>Erollisi Marr and Mithanial Marr created the Barbarians</div><div><font color="#0099ff"></font> </div><div>Mithanial Marr created the Frogloks</div><div><font color="#ffff00">I know Some frogloks were blessed by Mithanial but were they really created by him?</font></div><div><font color="#0099ff">Yes Mithanial did create the Frogloks the same way he created the Barbarians.</font></div><div>Brell Serilis created the Dwarves, Gnomes, Gnolls, and Ratonga (allegedly)</div><div> </div><div>Tunare created the Wood Elves and High Elves</div><div><font color="#ffff00">Wood and High Elves evolved from the Elddar Elves Which were created by Tunare</font></div><div>Fizzlethorp Bristlebane created the Halflings</div><div> </div><div>Innoruuk created the Dark Elves</div><div><font color="#ffff00">Dark Elves were created from the Elddar Elves, But i do agree credit must go to Innoruuk</font></div><div>Humans evolved from Barbarians</div><div> </div><div>Erudites evolved from Humans</div><div> </div><div>Kerrans just... evolved. They weren't created by any known god, but thier origin of existance has never been revealed either.</div><font color="#0099ff">They were created by a great cat god that moves with the wind or some such so they didn't evolve they were created.</font><hr></blockquote>I basically agree over all with what was written above... I just thought these little Notes were needed to better understand some of the complexity<hr></blockquote>Added more

[Homeskillet]

<div>Also, Ratonga and Roekilik were indeed created by Brell, not just speculation.</div>

[IlionSturmli]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><div>Frogloks where kind of created by Marr.<strike>I have the complete story somewhere at home but I try to remember it.</strike></div><div><strike>Marr was hunted by someone (one Innorukks creations I think) and fled into the swam later known as Innothule Swamp.There he was captured and lost some blood (or tears?) and this blood changed the frogs living there and created the Frogloks.They then rescued him I think.</strike></div><div><strike></strike> </div><div><strike>I try to find the story, cause I'm not realy sure about this =)</strike></div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Edit: Ok I was realy worng about this.Here is the text.</div><div><hr></div><div> </div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div><font size="2">From Pond to Paladin Or The Origins of Froglok and Man by Glupurp Stoneskipper Paladin of MarrMy noble kinsman, I bring to you the knowledge of our origins, as well as the origin of Man that has been bestowed upon me by the scholrs of the City of New Tanaan, and those who have visited the Halls of Honor, home of our Lord Mithaniel Marr. I am but a humble Paladin of Mithaniel Marr, born like many of our kind in the swamps of Southern Antonica, and deserve no adulation for penning these words. This work is in honor of all Froglok, current, past and yet to come.In the early ages of Norrath, before the arrival of Man, the Marr Twins did walk the face of Norrath. The children of a God of Power, Tarrew Marr the Water Lord, the Marr twins searched amongst the mortals of Norrath a cause to champion and embrace with their divinity. The gods of Nature puzzled of the Marr Twins absence of a divine purpose, and the Gods of Influence scoffed at the twins for seeking such a purpose among the mortals.The most malicious of the Gods, Innoruuk, and Cazic-Thule, saught to corrupt the young twins to strengthen the forces of hatred and fear. Innoruu, the twisted God of Hatred and Spite sent his mortal followers to Tarrews daughter, Erollisi Marr, to tempt her and seduce her into the darkness. With the wisdom imparted to the Goddess by her father, she saw through the Teir'Dals deceptions, and their wickedness was more visible to her eyes than even their physical forms.So it came to pass that Erollisi journeyed to the lands of Tunare's fair elves, to escape the sickening advances of the Tier'Dal. It was in the early kingdoms of the elves, that Erollisi did find warmth, peace and beauty in the harsh realm of the mortals and it was there that she embraced and was in return by a most mortal of traits. It was there she found love.While Erollisi fended off the advances of Innoruuks mortal agents, the forces of Cazic-Thule beset her twin brother, Mithaniel Marr. Serpents, phantoms, and all manner of frightful creatures conjured and commanded by Cazic-Thules mortal minions came to Mithaniel to assault his body and mind. Mithaniel was no mortal however, and his will is strong, the minions of Thule could not instill within him the fear of their dark lord. They did suceed however, in luring the brave Mithaniel to the swamps of Norrath, the deadly, dank, land where the creatures of Cazic-Thule were the strongest and most numerous.An army of Trolls, Lizard Folk, and forgotton creatures of unspeakable horror beset Mithaniel Marr, and so it came to pass that he became a captive of the minions of the Lord of Fear.Mithaniel, imprisoned in magical bonds provided to his captors by Cazic-Thule, and tortured by relentless monstrosities, prayed to his father day and night for forgiveness and salvation. The prayers continued, unanswered, until the brave God, weary from tortue and weakened by the dark magic of Cazic-Thule fell into a deep slumber.It was then that Terris-Thule visited the slumbering God to inflict his sleep with nightmares more horrible than the events he had endured at the hands of his captors during his waking hours. However, at the beseeching of her father, Cazic-Thule, Terris was not permitted to inflict such terror onto Mithaniel Marr until after she first deceived him through his dreams and stole the gift of life from his body.So Terris did as her father commanded and then the slumbering horrors began.</font></div><div><font size="2"></font> </div><div><font size="2">Morell-Thule, the forsaken son of Cazic, and brother of Terris, took notice of Terris manipulations of the slumbering God, for while Terris is the Queen of Nightmares, Morell is the King of Dreams. For reasons unknown, perhaps simply to foul the plans of his wicked father and sister, Morell-Thule stole the gift of life that had been taken from the slumbering Mithaniel and escaped into his Demi-Plane of Dreams.Knowing that his enraged family would soon visit his home, Morell divided Mithaniels Gift of Life, scattering one half across all the swamps of Norrath, the sacred lands of his father, Cazic-Thule.Where Mithaniels Gift of Life fell upon the swamps of Norrath, the first Froglok Tads were born. Those first Tads had the hardest trials of our people. Until that point, the swamps belonged only to the foul and destructive creatures of the dark gods. Fortunately the gift of life that had brought our first ancestors into being also empowered them with the bravery and valor Mithaniel Marr had exhibited during his trials in the mortal realms.Once the swamps had been seeded with the first of our kind, the Lord of Dreams, Morell-Thule, visited Mithaniel Marr's twin sister, Erollisi Marr. While the Goddess of Love blisfully rested in the lands of the fair elves, Morell-Thule visted her in a dream and gave to her the second half of Mithaniel's Gift of Life. It was soon to be evident to the fair elves that their visiting daughter of the Gods was with child and they took her to an uninhabited region of the frozen northlands of Antonica, where they could tend to and guard her in seclusion.While the elves watched after Erollisi, the first of our ancestors grew from Tads into adult Frogloks, and Morell-Thule gifted them with dreams of the imprisoned Mithaniel Marr, and visions of a means to free the brave son of Tarrew. So it came to pass that from all the swamps of Norrath, the first Frogloks rose in arms against the minions of Cazic-Thule, fighting valiantly to the site of Mithaniel Marrs imprisonment, guided by visions from the Lord of Dreams.For uncounted years the Frogloks battled the evil inhabitants of Norraths swamplands, learning the lessons of both victory and defeat. Alas, Cazic-Thule is an ancient and powerful God and his minions are numerous and diverse. Try as they might, the ancestor Frogloks could not reach their imprisoned God, but never did they cease their efforts, despite the daunting odds.Then, after some time, a small army arrived on the borders of the swamp that was Mithaniel Marrs prison. Not an army of Frogloks, but an army of Northmen, the children of Erollisi Marr. They too had been guided by visions and dreams of the imprisoned God from whose life they were conceived. Seeking justice for the imprisonment of their father, the Northmen joined with the Froglok armies and the alliance of Froglok and Man succeeded in freeing their father Mithaniel Marr. The minions of Cazic-Thule and the Avatar of Fear himself fell before the unity and valor of the children of Marr. For the first in the history of Norrath, the swamps were not safe for the evil creations of the dark gods.It was in the brave and selfless actions of the ancestor Frogloks and Northmen that Mithaniel Marr discovered the mortal trait of Valor, and because of Morell-Thule's honorable delivering of the truth of our origins to our ancestors in visions and dream, Mithaniel also chose to champion the virtue of honesty as well as valor.Such is the tale of my Lord Mithaniel Marr, and the origins of my fellow Frogloks, and of our distant brethen, the race of Men. It is a shame that so many of our kind, as well as many of the race of men, have strayed from the virtues of our ancestors. May Mithaniel Marr bless us, his faithful servants, with the powers to redeem our fallen kin from the clutches of evil.</font></div><div><font size="2"></font> </div><div><hr></div><div><font size="2"></font> </div><div><font size="2"></font> </div></blockquote><p>Message Edited by IlionSturmlied on <span class="date_text">02-16-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:17 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by IlionSturmlied on <span class="date_text">02-16-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:17 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by IlionSturmlied on <span class="date_text">02-16-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:18 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by IlionSturmlied on <span class="date_text">02-16-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:18 AM</span></p>

[iceriven2]

<div></div>Never read that.  It so a hero Myth it awsome... Very nice beginning to the frogloks and barbarians

[DreamerClou]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>IlionSturmlied wrote:<div></div><div></div><div></div><div>Frogloks where kind of created by Marr.<strike>I have the complete story somewhere at home but I try to remember it.</strike></div><div><strike>Marr was hunted by someone (one Innorukks creations I think) and fled into the swam later known as Innothule Swamp.There he was captured and lost some blood (or tears?) and this blood changed the frogs living there and created the Frogloks.They then rescued him I think.</strike></div><div><strike></strike> </div><div><strike>I try to find the story, cause I'm not realy sure about this =)</strike></div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Edit: Ok I was realy worng about this.Here is the text.</div><div><hr></div><div> </div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div><font size="2">From Pond to Paladin Or The Origins of Froglok and Man by Glupurp Stoneskipper Paladin of MarrMy noble kinsman, I bring to you the knowledge of our origins, as well as the origin of Man that has been bestowed upon me by the scholrs of the City of New Tanaan, and those who have visited the Halls of Honor, home of our Lord Mithaniel Marr. I am but a humble Paladin of Mithaniel Marr, born like many of our kind in the swamps of Southern Antonica, and deserve no adulation for penning these words. This work is in honor of all Froglok, current, past and yet to come.In the early ages of Norrath, before the arrival of Man, the Marr Twins did walk the face of Norrath. The children of a God of Power, Tarrew Marr the Water Lord, the Marr twins searched amongst the mortals of Norrath a cause to champion and embrace with their divinity. The gods of Nature puzzled of the Marr Twins absence of a divine purpose, and the Gods of Influence scoffed at the twins for seeking such a purpose among the mortals.The most malicious of the Gods, Innoruuk, and Cazic-Thule, saught to corrupt the young twins to strengthen the forces of hatred and fear. Innoruu, the twisted God of Hatred and Spite sent his mortal followers to Tarrews daughter, Erollisi Marr, to tempt her and seduce her into the darkness. With the wisdom imparted to the Goddess by her father, she saw through the Teir'Dals deceptions, and their wickedness was more visible to her eyes than even their physical forms.So it came to pass that Erollisi journeyed to the lands of Tunare's fair elves, to escape the sickening advances of the Tier'Dal. It was in the early kingdoms of the elves, that Erollisi did find warmth, peace and beauty in the harsh realm of the mortals and it was there that she embraced and was in return by a most mortal of traits. It was there she found love.While Erollisi fended off the advances of Innoruuks mortal agents, the forces of Cazic-Thule beset her twin brother, Mithaniel Marr. Serpents, phantoms, and all manner of frightful creatures conjured and commanded by Cazic-Thules mortal minions came to Mithaniel to assault his body and mind. Mithaniel was no mortal however, and his will is strong, the minions of Thule could not instill within him the fear of their dark lord. They did suceed however, in luring the brave Mithaniel to the swamps of Norrath, the deadly, dank, land where the creatures of Cazic-Thule were the strongest and most numerous.An army of Trolls, Lizard Folk, and forgotton creatures of unspeakable horror beset Mithaniel Marr, and so it came to pass that he became a captive of the minions of the Lord of Fear.Mithaniel, imprisoned in magical bonds provided to his captors by Cazic-Thule, and tortured by relentless monstrosities, prayed to his father day and night for forgiveness and salvation. The prayers continued, unanswered, until the brave God, weary from tortue and weakened by the dark magic of Cazic-Thule fell into a deep slumber.It was then that Terris-Thule visited the slumbering God to inflict his sleep with nightmares more horrible than the events he had endured at the hands of his captors during his waking hours. However, at the beseeching of her father, Cazic-Thule, Terris was not permitted to inflict such terror onto Mithaniel Marr until after she first deceived him through his dreams and stole the gift of life from his body.So Terris did as her father commanded and then the slumbering horrors began.</font></div><div><font size="2"></font> </div><div><font size="2">Morell-Thule, the forsaken son of Cazic, and brother of Terris, took notice of Terris manipulations of the slumbering God, for while Terris is the Queen of Nightmares, Morell is the King of Dreams. For reasons unknown, perhaps simply to foul the plans of his wicked father and sister, Morell-Thule stole the gift of life that had been taken from the slumbering Mithaniel and escaped into his Demi-Plane of Dreams.Knowing that his enraged family would soon visit his home, Morell divided Mithaniels Gift of Life, scattering one half across all the swamps of Norrath, the sacred lands of his father, Cazic-Thule.Where Mithaniels Gift of Life fell upon the swamps of Norrath, the first Froglok Tads were born. Those first Tads had the hardest trials of our people. Until that point, the swamps belonged only to the foul and destructive creatures of the dark gods. Fortunately the gift of life that had brought our first ancestors into being also empowered them with the bravery and valor Mithaniel Marr had exhibited during his trials in the mortal realms.Once the swamps had been seeded with the first of our kind, the Lord of Dreams, Morell-Thule, visited Mithaniel Marr's twin sister, Erollisi Marr. While the Goddess of Love blisfully rested in the lands of the fair elves, Morell-Thule visted her in a dream and gave to her the second half of Mithaniel's Gift of Life. <font color="#ff0000">It was soon to be evident to the fair elves that their visiting daughter of the Gods was with child</font> and they took her to an uninhabited region of the frozen northlands of Antonica, where they could tend to and guard her in seclusion.While the elves watched after Erollisi, the first of our ancestors grew from Tads into adult Frogloks, and Morell-Thule gifted them with dreams of the imprisoned Mithaniel Marr, and visions of a means to free the brave son of Tarrew. So it came to pass that from all the swamps of Norrath, the first Frogloks rose in arms against the minions of Cazic-Thule, fighting valiantly to the site of Mithaniel Marrs imprisonment, guided by visions from the Lord of Dreams.For uncounted years the Frogloks battled the evil inhabitants of Norraths swamplands, learning the lessons of both victory and defeat. Alas, Cazic-Thule is an ancient and powerful God and his minions are numerous and diverse. Try as they might, the ancestor Frogloks could not reach their imprisoned God, but never did they cease their efforts, despite the daunting odds.Then, after some time, a small army arrived on the borders of the swamp that was Mithaniel Marrs prison. Not an army of Frogloks, but an army of Northmen, the children of Erollisi Marr. They too had been guided by visions and dreams of the imprisoned God from whose life they were conceived. Seeking justice for the imprisonment of their father, the Northmen joined with the Froglok armies and the alliance of Froglok and Man succeeded in freeing their father Mithaniel Marr. The minions of Cazic-Thule and the Avatar of Fear himself fell before the unity and valor of the children of Marr. For the first in the history of Norrath, the swamps were not safe for the evil creations of the dark gods.It was in the brave and selfless actions of the ancestor Frogloks and Northmen that Mithaniel Marr discovered the mortal trait of Valor, and because of Morell-Thule's honorable delivering of the truth of our origins to our ancestors in visions and dream, Mithaniel also chose to champion the virtue of honesty as well as valor.Such is the tale of my Lord Mithaniel Marr, and the origins of my fellow Frogloks, and of our distant brethen, the race of Men. It is a shame that so many of our kind, as well as many of the race of men, have strayed from the virtues of our ancestors. May Mithaniel Marr bless us, his faithful servants, with the powers to redeem our fallen kin from the clutches of evil.</font></div><div><font size="2"></font> </div><div><hr></div><div><font size="2"></font> </div><div><font size="2"></font> </div></blockquote><p>Message Edited by IlionSturmlied on <span class="date_text">02-16-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:17 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by IlionSturmlied on <span class="date_text">02-16-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:17 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by IlionSturmlied on <span class="date_text">02-16-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:18 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by IlionSturmlied on <span class="date_text">02-16-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:18 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote><p> </p><p>Hmm, So who got Erollisi Mar pregnant?</p>

[Cusashorn]

<div>Nobody.</div>

[firemonkey5]

<div></div>Mithanial Marr

[Cusashorn]

<div>No seriously, Nobody impregnated Erollisi Marr. Not through physical intercourse anyway. Part of Mithanial Marr's essence was placed inside her by Morrel Thule back when Mith Marr was being tortured by Terris and Cazic Thule.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>I forget how the rest of the story went, but half his essence was kept safe with the frogloks of Guk, and the other ended up becoming the Barbarians.</div>

[FreaklyCreak]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>firemonkey5 wrote:<div></div>Mithanial Marr<hr></blockquote><p>Yes in essence he did inpregnate his sister. But not by his own will..</p><p>Kind of odd though, next time you see a barbarian tell them they are all inbreed =P</p>

[Rylight]

<div></div>that would explian alot of stuff :smileyvery-happy:

[Stormreaver]

<div></div><p>Other class specific deities..</p><p>Human Paladins and Clerics tended to worship Karana or the Marr twins.</p><p>Wizards could worship Solusek Ro (well cmon they are all power hungry)</p><p>Bards could workship pretty much anyone they liked, and were the only class able to worship Veeshan.</p><p>Erudites were Quellious and Prexus followers - the Heretics were 100% Thulians i think.</p><p>Iksar were 100% Cazic Thule too.</p><p>Monks all worshipped Quellious or were agnostic</p><p>Rangers followed Karana or Tunare</p><p>Warriors mainly followed either their race god or Rallos Zek</p>

[Mary the Prophetess]

<div></div><p>One suspects that the 'lorists' of EQ2, (or EQ Live, or EQ Online Adventures, or EQ RPG), do not agonoize over their plot lines too much.</p><p>The degree of scutiny that they, (as designers), are allowed on such matters is much less than we, (as players), are permitted.</p><p>This allows us to disect their stories to a degree that they did not intend, and were not permitted to do.</p><p>Is it any wonder that we are able to find some inconsistencies?</p><p>Personally, I find that this is a good thing, and models REAL history quite well.</p><p>You have factions that believe that the, (TRUE), story is such-and-such; and others who believe it is not.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Stormreaver wrote:<div></div><p>Warriors mainly followed either their race god or Rallos Zek</p><hr></blockquote>Bards could worship any diety except Bertoxxulous, Innoruuk, or Cazic Thule, the evil gods.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Warriors were mostly agnostic if they had any choice in the matter. at least most of the warriors I knew</div><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class="date_text">02-18-2006</span><span class="time_text">01:19 PM</span></p>

[TaleraRis]

<div></div><div></div>Wasn't it also just human bards who could worship Veeshan?And that recounting is excellent. Some of the best stories I read back in EQ were during LoY and featured the Guktans.And mage classes could have a deity or choose to be agnostic. NPCs could see your alignment, so most enchanters like myself who were human chose to be agnostic.Dark classes of the small races, like the gnome necromancers and the shadowknights that were added later, could worship Bertox.Oh, and many of the barbarian race, including all the shamans, worshiped the Tribunal.<div></div><p><span class="date_text"></span><span class="time_text"></span></p><p>Message Edited by TaleraRis on <span class="date_text">02-18-2006</span><span class="time_text">01:59 PM</span></p>

[firemonkey5]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>FreaklyCreak wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>firemonkey5 wrote:<div></div>Mithanial Marr<hr></blockquote><p>Yes in essence he did inpregnate his sister. But not by his own will..</p><p>Kind of odd though, next time you see a barbarian tell them they are all inbreed =P</p><hr></blockquote>Why do you think I say Barbarians are the rednecks of Norrath?</div>

[Kamimura]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>TaleraRis wrote:<div></div><div></div>Wasn't it also just human bards who could worship Veeshan?<hr></blockquote>No, I'm pretty sure any race of bard could.. and only bards could.

[Cusashorn]

<div>Mind you, the only races who could be bards were Humans, Wood Elves, and Half Elves...</div>

[Nainitsuj]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Stormreaver wrote:<div></div><p>Other class specific deities..</p><p>Human Paladins and Clerics tended to worship Karana or the Marr twins.</p><p><font color="#ffff00">Qeynos Pallies were Prime healer and the crying god.  Freeport pallies were the Marr twins.</font></p><hr></blockquote>

[Cusashorn]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Nainitsuj wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Stormreaver wrote:<div></div><p>Other class specific deities..</p><p>Human Paladins and Clerics tended to worship Karana or the Marr twins.</p><p><font color="#ffff00">Qeynos Pallies were Prime healer and the crying god.  Freeport pallies were the Marr twins.</font></p><hr></blockquote><hr></blockquote><p>There were two cleric guilds in Qeynos.</p><p>The Knights of Thunder were paladins and clerics who worship Karana. The Priests of Life are paladins and clerics who worship Rodcet Nife.</p>

[Nainitsuj]

<div></div>Isn't that what I put?

[Cusashorn]

<div>Oh. My bad. I misread it. I thought you said "Rodcet Nife, the crying god"</div>