Everfrost Question

[iceriven2]

<div>IN eq1 lore states that the after the first rollisian war the creations of Rollas Zek were cursed.  The giants were cursed with"dumbness" like all the other creation but there plentiful land was frozen over.  Which is Everfrost.  So wouldn't logic state with the curse gone Everfrost would no longer be frozen over? Any reason why this land that was way north when it was plentiful and green is still covered in snow and ice?</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div>P.S. I know that the simple answer would be it shifted more north but any real lore to it not reverting back... </div>

[Duhulk]

<div>A simple explination would be that while the giant curse was clearly a factual occurence, the freezing of their lands either doesn't refer to everfrost, or one could simply argue that that particular part of the legend was not accurate.</div>

[Cusashorn]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>iceriven2 wrote:<div>IN eq1 lore states that the after the first rollisian war the creations of Rollas Zek were cursed.  The giants were cursed with"dumbness" like all the other creation but there plentiful land was frozen over.  Which is Everfrost.  So wouldn't logic state with the curse gone Everfrost would no longer be frozen over? Any reason why this land that was way north when it was plentiful and green is still covered in snow and ice?</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div>P.S. I know that the simple answer would be it shifted more north but any real lore to it not reverting back... </div><hr></blockquote><p>Actually the "Curse" placed on the giants was the geographical changes to the environment that divided them as a race and scattered them across the world. They built a great fleet of ships in order to make it to Kunark and start living there, but Xegony whipped up a storm in the Timerous Deep so powerful that more than 90% of the entire race's ships were sunk as they tried to make it to Kunark.</p><p>Thier "Curse" was that they were almost turned extinct and were lucky to survive.</p><p> </p><p>The end result are the surviving giants forming up the city of Kael Drakkel on Velious, a couple of tribes of mountain and forest giants on Kunark, a clan of Ice Giants remaining in Permafrost and trying to adapt to the environment and protect thier native lands, a clan of Fire Giants taking up residence in Solusek's Eye and more or less enslaved by Nagafen, and the remaining giants just wandering and living like nomads.</p><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class="date_text">02-14-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:14 PM</span></p>

[Saroc_Luclin]

We fairly recently talked about the Giants and the Curse over on <a target="_blank" href="http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq/board/message?board.id=Lore&message.id=9142">EQLive</a>.  The giants were definitely cursed thoguh; Ice giants are definitely (in Live's time) the dumbest of the bunch, and they become a little more intelligent as you move out from there, with the Veliousian giants showing what the original Giants really could have been.As for why Everfrost is still frozen, I would say 'inertia' combined with the Cataclysm. In EQLive, we have lore-related signs that the curse has been lifted when the Gods went silent, but that did not mean the Ogres suddenly became super intelligent. It just meant that newer Ogre generations are smarter than the previous ones, and they are able to begin to reclaim what they lost.  So as for Everfrost, the curse might have removed some of the forces that initially froze those lands, but those lands may now be frozen cold enough that it will take ages to melt them, and/or the freezing is now selfperpetuating more or less. Plus with the cataclysm, that may have pulled the isle that Everfrost is now far enouhg to the North to help keep it iced in solid.<div></div>

[TorturedOne21]

<div>a location's climate also has more too it than simply its geographic distance from the equator. Take Europe for example; i'ts about as far north as the upper reaches of Canada, but is still fairly mild. It's because of wind movements across the Atlantic.</div><div> </div><div>And given that Norrath's gods hold considerable sway over the planet, it's possible that some of these natural factors were permanantly altered by the gods, and Everfrost's climate has nothing unnaturally magical about it.</div><div> </div><div>another possible theory is that in the event Everfrost's climate was unnatural, the region's recovery may have been disrupted by the shattering, where the current terrain now prevents any warm air flow into the Everfrost region. As this website suggests, the loss of a moon can have quite a dramatic effect on a planet's climate <a target="_blank" href="http://www.exitmundi.nl/moon.htm">http://www.exitmundi.nl/moon.htm</a> </div>

[Cusashorn]

<div>Yeah just because the giant's ar no longer cursed doesn't mean that Everfrost is suppose to return to normal. That was never the intention. Everfrost is there to stay.</div>