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Icewynd
02-06-2006, 11:52 PM
<div>I am just curious if anyone else noticed this but of all the screenshots and movies that I have seen and it shows a bone dragon the area that it in highly resembles that of the Dragon Necropolis found in Velious. Velious was also highly inhabited by dragons as we know. I think maybe it is possible the dragons thought this place was a holy place for the resting souls of their departed and decided to "lift" it up into the sky anyone else have any theories on this one?</div>

Descolin
02-06-2006, 11:53 PM
Oooo, that'd be neat. Maybe this Kerafyrm chap will be there.<div></div>

JoarAddam
02-07-2006, 02:43 AM
<div>Kerafym (The Sleeper) was never a denizen of the Dragon Necropolis, and the Heresy involved in his creation would have kept him from being allowed to have his remains interred there.</div>

Descolin
02-07-2006, 03:02 AM
Ah, okay, my bad. Not too knowledeable as far as EQ1 lore.<div></div>

Icewynd
02-07-2006, 03:03 AM
<div></div><div>Yea I agree I don't think Kerafym will show up any time soon even if at all. But I do know there is two dragons from Kunark that are making an appearance in this expansion they may have had something to do with it not mention the countless number of other dragons with resided in teh Temple of Veeshan and wandered about the Velious continent.</div>

Cusashorn
02-07-2006, 03:15 AM
<div>The description on the KoS site says "A dragon necropolis".</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>This doesn't necissarily mean THE dragon necropolis.</div>

Tamat
02-07-2006, 03:20 AM
<div><span><blockquote><hr>Icewynd01 wrote:<div></div><div>Yea I agree I don't think Kerafym will show up any time soon even if at all.</div><hr></blockquote>I agree! Mainly because per the lore ... he is dead.</span></div>

Cusashorn
02-07-2006, 03:29 AM
<div>ALLEGEDLY dead...</div>

MoD1133
02-07-2006, 04:15 AM
<div></div>I agree i dont think Kerafyrm is dead.

Afmo_13
02-07-2006, 05:08 AM
i dunno, i remeber seeing a thread around here somewhere that had a housing item called Tapestry of the Sleeper or something like that...so maybe keryfyrm will make an appearence<div></div>

Icewynd
02-07-2006, 06:56 AM
<div>That tapestry doesn't mean anything. It can be as simple as a remembrance to the sleeper. I don't know whether or not he is dead. One thing that I know is that not all Lore sources are good information it depends on who gave the information maybe they twisted it. My thinking is that SoE isn't ready to bring something like this into the game. Main reason for this thinking is that it would take a lot of planning and I don't think the Lore of EQ2 is ready for something of that magnitude yet in the game. There is still too many questions of not knowing what is going on in the world. Heck teleportation isn't even back yet. We may see that return it will be interesting to see if it is people that have to do with the Combine empire that restore it or not.</div>

backya
02-07-2006, 07:29 AM
<div></div>could you imagine something as powerfull as the sleeper coming back, with the gear that currently in game. The sleeper would probly be a darather x2 for some crappy quest for something with prismatic glow on it. I hope they dont bring any serious mobs like this back till we get some gear worth fighting em with

Cusashorn
02-07-2006, 08:25 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>backyard wrote:<div></div>could you imagine something as powerfull as the sleeper coming back, with the gear that currently in game. The sleeper would probly be a darather x2 for some crappy quest for something with prismatic glow on it. I hope they dont bring any serious mobs like this back till we get some gear worth fighting em with<hr></blockquote>Or he would be just like he was in EQlive: never ment to be killed. He might be a quest giver. Never know...

OmegaSoldier2
02-07-2006, 11:39 AM
<div> </div><div> </div><div><font color="#ff0099">""Tarinax, the powerful and mysterious undead guardian of a fabled dragon necropolis. "  </font></div><div>The fabled part makes me think it has atleast something to do with the original.  That word is cleverly placed there.</div><div> </div>

backya
02-07-2006, 12:23 PM
<div></div>the dead dragon is tariniax, beta screen shots are on eq2ogaming.

Kondul
02-07-2006, 07:55 PM
I could see the dragons working some voodoo to lift the necropolis above the devestation wracking Norrath, they do have a much better understanding and finer control of magic than any of the mortal races. (No matter what the Erudites say)Also of note, The original Dragon Necropolis is, IIRC, the first place we saw "rat men" in the original Everquest. The Chetari and Paebala. So if it is the original Necropolis it opens some interesting Lore doors for the Ratonga.Hmm, even more interesting thought all of a sudden, what if the Overrealm <i>is</i> Velious? We know that somewhere around 100 years after EQL the water in Norrath rose dramatically, which scholars could only attribute to the Velious icecap melting. The continent as a whole was suffused with magic from Veeshan's mark, and Velium, IIRC, was lighter than regular weapons. What if, without the ice to hold it down, the velium (which is magical ice that doesn't melt) and dirt core of Velious just floated up into the sky and broke apart (as it was franticly tied together by the Giants and Dwarves). I'd powerlevel my toon just to go see what Thurgadin's like now, not to mention Skyshrine, Crystal Caverns, Ka'el Drakan, Tower of Frozen Shadows, and all those other wonderful places of memory. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Saroc_Luclin
02-07-2006, 08:06 PM
There seem to be elements of both Dragons Necropolis/Velious, and Skyfire/Veeshan's Peak/Kunark with KoS. Both of those locations had dragon graveyards in them (or near them at least)So I'm wondering if, as someone else is wondering, during the Cataclysm, the dragons somehow connected Plane of Sky chains to those regions and lifted them up as new Sky isles.Of course if they were pulling up DN, then why would they leave the Temple behind, since it was right next door? Hmmm....I'm suspecting the Sleeper might be involved in this expansion somehow, if only tangentially. Velious was EQLive's second expansion, and KOS is EQII's second expansion, so I'm suspecting links in that respect.<div></div>

JoarAddam
02-07-2006, 08:07 PM
<div></div><div>YEah, This expansion pulls elements from Velious, Kunark and Antonica, all three. But It's really going to be it's own place, with some stuff we remember, but lots that we've never before we encountered.  I never played eqoa or LOE, but I bet that we'll see stuff from those games eventualy, if we haven't already and I just didn't recognize it as such.</div><div> </div><div>There are lots of dragons, so that's cool</div><p>Message Edited by JoarAddam on <span class="date_text">02-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:07 AM</span></p>

Duhulk
02-07-2006, 08:21 PM
<div><hr>He might be a quest giver.<hr></div><div> </div><div>Mmmm, given what we know about Kerafyrm, I don't think he'd ever lower himself to asking for help from us, even if it was in a deceptive manner.</div>

Cusashorn
02-07-2006, 10:13 PM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Duhulk wrote:<div><hr>He might be a quest giver.<hr></div><div> </div><div>Mmmm, given what we know about Kerafyrm, I don't think he'd ever lower himself to asking for help from us, even if it was in a deceptive manner.</div><hr></blockquote>Neither did Nagafen. He didn't *ASK* for our help either...

Duhulk
02-07-2006, 11:04 PM
<div></div><div></div>Yes he did. He gave us a misison to get his egg back. I'm using a very general use of the word ask here =p<p>Message Edited by Duhulk on <span class="date_text">02-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:04 PM</span></p>

Cusashorn
02-07-2006, 11:31 PM
<div>So am I. He didn't ask for our help. He made a proposition. We help him or he kills us.</div>

Icewynd
02-07-2006, 11:40 PM
<div>I don't doubt for a minute that the dragons would have taken to the sky. They either saw the destruction coming or once it started knew it would be best to get out of there. It would be second nature to them to flee to the sky and make it their realm. We know for sure there is at least dragons from Kunark there. It wouldn't surprise me in the bit that they figured some way out to take places like Dragon Necropolis and move it into the sky. I would guess that they decided we need to move and move now whoever is with us can come and the rest can take their fate elsewhere. We know Nagafen buried himself deeper into Solusek. Lady Vox im not sure on the Lore on how she died but maybe because she didn't want to follow and leave her place and it ended up to her demise.</div>

backya
02-07-2006, 11:46 PM
<div></div><div></div><p>Vox was assasinated because she tried to mate with nafgan, It was the drakota isf i remember, they killed vox and tore nafgan a newone. Thats what fire and ice is all about, revenge on these drakota.</p><p>note, this is why he is in sol eye, hes not trying to escape the moon but was hiding while he healed, i gues hes not at full power yet.</p><p>Message Edited by backyard on <span class="date_text">02-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:47 AM</span></p>

Icewynd
02-08-2006, 12:02 AM
<div></div><div>The dragons of the Overrealm are the undisputed masters of the skies.  Harla Dar, the high priestess of the Awakened and fanatical follower of an unknown dragon god.  Lord Vyemm, the military and scientific leader who desires the subjugation of Norrath.  Gorenaire and Talendor, the twin chromatic dragons who plot and scheme against each other as much as their enemies in a bid for personal power.  Tarinax, the powerful and mysterious undead guardian of a fabled dragon necropolis.<hr size="1"></div><p><img src="http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1160/koslore7vs.jpg"></p><p> </p><p>The top part is pasted from the KoS site on Dragons the one below is something that someone posted in another thread.</p><p>Says Harla Dar is a fanatical follower of an Unknown Dragon god. She followed his council and it in turn spared her life. Maybe this could be Kerafym and he has become a god now. I know of no other prismatic dragon in Lore. Perhaps he is the one who started all the problems on Norrath as we know them he blew up the moon. He gave her council to take herself and whatever other dragons would listen and take to the sky to get out of troubles way. It also states their only is the subjugation of Norrath. That makes me wonder then who is restoring the spires so that we can put an end to these dragons and their ideas. From EQ lore the Combine empire was the ones with the most knowledge of teleportation and the ones who created the Nexus maybe some have come out of the woodworks to take revenge now that we are stronger and have recovered a bit from our shattering.</p>

Duhulk
02-08-2006, 01:12 AM
<div>I think the real question is, how the hell does the Qeynos Claymore fit into all of this?</div>

MoD1133
02-08-2006, 01:41 AM
<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Icewynd01 wrote:<div></div><div>The dragons of the Overrealm are the undisputed masters of the skies.  Harla Dar, the high priestess of the Awakened and fanatical follower of an unknown dragon god.  Lord Vyemm, the military and scientific leader who desires the subjugation of Norrath.  Gorenaire and Talendor, the twin chromatic dragons who plot and scheme against each other as much as their enemies in a bid for personal power.  Tarinax, the powerful and mysterious undead guardian of a fabled dragon necropolis.<hr size="1"></div><p><img src="http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1160/koslore7vs.jpg"></p><p> </p><p>The top part is pasted from the KoS site on Dragons the one below is something that someone posted in another thread.</p><p>Says Harla Dar is a fanatical follower of an Unknown Dragon god. She followed his council and it in turn spared her life. Maybe this could be Kerafym and he has become a god now. I know of no other prismatic dragon in Lore. Perhaps he is the one who started all the problems on Norrath as we know them he blew up the moon. He gave her council to take herself and whatever other dragons would listen and take to the sky to get out of troubles way. It also states their only is the subjugation of Norrath. That makes me wonder then who is restoring the spires so that we can put an end to these dragons and their ideas. From EQ lore the Combine empire was the ones with the most knowledge of teleportation and the ones who created the Nexus maybe some have come out of the woodworks to take revenge now that we are stronger and have recovered a bit from our shattering.</p><hr></blockquote>Seeing form what those two things the Herald of Dar has said is Harla Dar is greatful to Kerafyrm for partially rezzing Her son and Mate, she can probably now speak to and see Fraka and Jaled Dar, and when the rezz is complete they will be united all thanks to Kerafyrm.<p>Message Edited by MoD1133 on <span class="date_text">02-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:42 PM</span></p>