Iksar roleplaying...

[Zentalas]

would it be accurate to compare how an Iksar acts to the Kilngons in Star Trek? A savage brutal race that lives for battle Who clings to honor heavily and firmly believes in "only the strong shall survive" the Iksar are responsible for the only empire that i know of to rival the original Rallosian empire. they formed a caste of monks that were some of the strongest fighters on norrath. Emperior Sathir had been known to kill dragons in 1 on 1 combat. im just looking to get into character better any pointers would be apprecated. <div></div>

[Zutan]

I'd say its not far off at least.. and Iksar also consider everyone else inferior. <div></div>

[Redbed]

<DIV>"would it be accurate to compare how an Iksar acts to the Kilngons in Star Trek?"<BR></DIV> <DIV>I wouldnt think so,   Their really not comparable.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR>"A savage brutal race that lives for battle"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Not really, a more accurate statement is they live to rule.  Their about as arrogant as, High Elves, Euridites and Tier'dal in that respect.  They believe themselves the superior species and look down in contempt on all others.  </DIV> <DIV><BR>"Who clings to honor heavily and firmly believes in "only the strong shall survive"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>They really dont believe in honor too much, not as a race or a society.  They worship(ed) cazic thule the god of fear. They do tend to believe in the strong shall survive and its in their quest for strength and power that they conquor and seek to rule others.</DIV> <DIV><BR><BR>"the Iksar are responsible for the only empire that i know of to rival the original Rallosian empire.  they formed a caste of monks that were some of the strongest fighters on norrath."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>All they every Ruled was Kunark (There were greater empires then the Rallosian, The Combine Empire springs to mind) and they never defeated the Shissar, The god(s) did it for them.  Monks themselves were (at times) the most powerful of fighters (that changed, in Oct of 2002).  The Iksar Monks were created by Tynn who himself was created when Zan Fi tried to Solo Cazic Thule and after a titanic battle lost.  Evidently Cazic was so impressed he reconstituted Zan Fi's essence into an Iksar and sent him off to found the Courts of Pain.<BR><BR>"Emperior Sathir had been known to kill dragons in 1 on 1 combat."  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Well he was riding a sokoloke which was a dragon/froglock hybrid so that may have given him an edge.</DIV> <DIV> <BR>"im just looking to get into character better any pointers would be apprecated."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Here you go.  You are an Iksar, the world should fear you.  You are better then them.  Keep saying this to people "Your empire here  is of little note, to the might that was Cabalis" (Which is actually odd since Cabalis was the city of their defeat and exile and the place they retreated to when all was lost.  The city of Sebilis was the center of their empire at its strength and also the place of their greatest defeat.)  Your people were once slaves under the Shissar until their enslavers were killed off by the greenmist.  So submitting to another is absolutely repugnant to you.  Though that doesnt keep you and your people from enslaving others (Whats another Hypocrite).  Oh and you hate and detest froglocks (One of the few things we have in common), cept as a source of Nutrition.  You have an enormous sense of pride and arrogance.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <BR></DIV>

[Zasarix]

<DIV>You are correct sir!   Save for the fact that we are nothing like pink, pointy eared soft skins with fair hair, or shiny, smooth bookworms who wouldnt know a dagger from a bookmark.</DIV> <DIV>And we <EM>were</EM> in the midst of overthrowing the Shissar when the Greenmist so happened to come along, not that we mind a little intervention, it simply shows our vast superiority even in our favor of the god's!</DIV> <DIV>Pheh, the Rallosian empire was the only one to challenge ours, but why should we bother moving from Kunark, as I say, who is there to fight if you rule all the land?</DIV>

[Dreyco]

<DIV>OOC:</DIV> <DIV>Hello! Let me see if I can answer your questions, and set the record straight with a few adjectives <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG>"A savage brutal race that lives for battle"</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>True, and untrue at the same time.  A race of warriors, and battle-hardy troopers, but at the same time: housing wise mystics and prophets, scouts.  They had their goals, and kept to them, and agreeable, were very relentless in their brutality when it came to carrying them out.  But this doesn't mean that they are a bunch of Scaled Neanderthals.  They are intelligent, cunning, and dangerous, and are VERY capable of being civil... toward their own kind.  Don't expect that to be presented to a "Soft-skin" however!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG>"Who clings to honor heavily and firmly believes in "only the strong shall survive""</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Right! Except the "Strong" equates to the "Iksar", and all others who stand in their way are enemies to be destroyed.  They are very strict about their beliefs, and are firm to them at all times.  Iksar RESPECTED their elders, and FOLLOWED their commands.  They honored their ancestors, and believed in the strength of their kin.  Those who didn't follow suit were generally outcasts, forsaken, etc.</DIV> <P><STRONG>"the Iksar are responsible for the only empire that i know of to rival the original Rallosian empire"</STRONG></P> <P>Well, I don't know much about the original Rallosian Empire... but they did build, and rebuild one of the strongest empires upon the face of Kunark, rivalling even Di`Zok, and the Ring.  And they DID conquer Kunark in the end!</P> <P><STRONG>"they formed a caste of monks that were some of the strongest fighters on norrath"</STRONG></P> <P>Click <A href="http://p069.ezboard.com/fshadowclaniksarfrm13.showMessage?topicID=30.topic" target=_blank>HERE</A> for information on the origins of the Swift-tail Caste, "Genesis of Fist and Tail", official Lore <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P><STRONG>"Emperior Sathir had been known to kill dragons in 1 on 1 combat."</STRONG></P> <P>This was actually Emperor Ganak, who struck Jaled`dar, the leader of the Ring of Scale, out of the sky upon his Sokokar.  Both were slain, and the remains of Jaled`dar could still be found in the Field of Bone.  Ganak's ghost haunted Trakanon's Teeth still afterward.  The tale of Ganak is remembered by some iksar (my character included!) as the means of Sacrifice for the wellbeing of all.</P> <P>Comparing Iksar to Dark Elves, High Elves, Erudites, etc, really doesn't do them any justice.  They are very original in their attitudes due to their trials, errors, battles, and defeats as a race.</P> <P>You are more than welcome to visit our <A href="http://p069.ezboard.com/fshadowclaniksarfrm13" target=_blank>Library</A> for more information <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Hope this helps!</P> <DIV><BR></DIV>

[Xxile]

<DIV>if you ask me i think the iksars were based off the roman empire huge empire hated every 1 but them and both belived they were born to rule the world and then lost it... at least thats what we want you soft skins to belive ...</DIV><p>Message Edited by Xxile on <span class=date_text>10-29-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:17 PM</span>

[Redbed]

<P>Im sorry....Who's Sleeping in Seblis right now?</P> <P>Guess where I live?  Its in a human city, run by a human.  Where do you live?  Oh, in a human city, run by a human in one of the crappy portions of town.....huh.....and you have to share space with another type of Human.....[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] it must suck to be an iksar.</P> <P>I have an Iksar that stands outside my door.  Think his name is Vassil or something.  Vassil, that must mean SUBSERVIANT!.</P> <P>Try not to let it sting too badly, you can probley get a room at the Temple of Cazic Thule if you dont like living in a HUMAN City.</P> <P>Ah...If I could only kill the Overlord, life would be good!</P> <P>Mostly I just want to smack the shopkeepers that tell me "Only a Traitor to the Overlord would pass up on this deal, your not a Traitor are you?"</P> <P>Actually yes I am.  And I like to see what his undead [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] is gonna do about it.  Ive looked around,  There aint nobody in Freeport I can't take in a fair fight and I never fight fair.</P> <P>Freeking Refugees and their bygone glory days.  Live in the here and now!  My rent went up 32sp, that sucked!</P><p>Message Edited by Redbed on <span class=date_text>10-29-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:47 PM</span>

[Nainitsuj]

A few things to remember.  The Iksar fear being slaves.  It was one of the driving forces to be the most dominant species on Kunark.  It was also why they hated outsiders.  They also did not worship Thule out of thanks for freeing their race.  It was out of fear.  In less than an hour the Iksar watched as (what they thought was) all the Shissaar(sp?) wiped out by a green mist while casting everything they could to fend off the mist.  They also didn't want to suffer the same fate.  And the Iksar went to open war with the Ring of Scale (dragons) by themselves.  How many other races have done this?

[Dreyco]

"<b>It was also why they hated outsiders." </b>Not entirely true.  The Iksar hated all other races because all other races brought their wars to Kunark, and targetted the Empire.  They were outsiders that saught to invade their holy land. <b>"They also did not worship Thule out of thanks for freeing their race.  It was out of fear.  In less than an hour the Iksar watched as (what they thought was) all the Shissaar(sp?) wiped out by a green mist while casting everything they could to fend off the mist.  They also didn't want to suffer the same fate. " </b>Yup, that was what got it all started... though the source of the Greenmist wasn't Cazic, according to my knowledge.  It was the Shissar's own gods (Whom I don't know, I hadn't seen any in-game lore to back up the fact that this was Cazic).  Thus they did not fear the same fate, being the Greenmist was the blessing that set them free.  Though they did fear the wrath of their Lord and creator! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <b>"And the Iksar went to open war with the Ring of Scale (dragons) by themselves" </b>And won! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[Nainitsuj]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Dreyco wrote:<BR>"<B>It was also why they hated outsiders."<BR><BR></B>Not entirely true.  The Iksar hated all other races because all other races brought their wars to Kunark, and targetted the Empire.  They were outsiders that saught to invade their holy land.<BR><BR><B>"They also did not worship Thule out of thanks for freeing their race.  It was out of fear.  In less than an hour the Iksar watched as (what they thought was) all the Shissaar(sp?) wiped out by a green mist while casting everything they could to fend off the mist.  They also didn't want to suffer the same fate. "<BR><BR></B>Yup, that was what got it all started... though the source of the Greenmist wasn't Cazic, according to my knowledge.  It was the Shissar's own gods (Whom I don't know, I hadn't seen any in-game lore to back up the fact that this was Cazic).  Thus they did not fear the same fate, being the Greenmist was the blessing that set them free.  Though they did fear the wrath of their Lord and creator! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR><BR><B>"And the Iksar went to open war with the Ring of Scale (dragons) by themselves"<BR><BR></B>And won! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>That depends on which court's stories you listened to.  The SK and warriors said it was because of the wars.  The shamans said it was because of their religions and influences and the necromancers said it was the possibilities of history repeating itself.</P> <P>Thule is the Green Mist.  The Faceless.  There's evidence in the old PoF (not sure about the new one) EQ1 CT (pre and current), EQ2 CT and Cabilis (all the stories told).</P> <P>Depends how you look at it.  All of the Iksar cities were destroyed and the Ring of Scale still existed.  Iksar started the war which means in order for them to win, they'd have to destroy the Ring of Scale.  I'd call it a stalemate.</P>

[Dreyco]

<b>"Thule is the Green Mist.  The Faceless.  There's evidence in the old PoF (not sure about the new one) EQ1 CT (pre and current), EQ2 CT and Cabilis (all the stories told)." </b>This may be so, though in-game lore doesn't state that it was Thule which did bring about the Greenmist that destroyed the Shissar.  In fact, it doesn't name a god at all... Quoting in-game lore... <i>"The snake race known as Shissar slithered upon Kunark. The Iksar had yet to unite. Our people had yet to learn the arcane arts and the ways of fist and tail. Divided, the Iksar were enslaved by the snakes. In the centuries before the Green, the Iksar were slaves of the Shissar. They ruled from the ancient city of Chelsith which rested deep within the land now known as Overthere. From here would sprout much evil. The Iksar were tortured like frogs and suffered at the hands of the Shissar. The Iksar who showed genius were to help the snakes in their evil rites. These few were the seeds of rebellion. The Iksar began to plot a revolt, but a greater force would strike first. The Shissar were an arrogant race. The power bestowed by their god was not enough for them. They made pacts with other gods and demigods. They created rifts in time and space and used them to gather magic items held by the guardians of the planes. The Shissar's disloyalty and greed would bring the wrath of the gods upon them. No power could stop the force to come. A green cloud formed in the skies above Kunark and began to descend upon the land. <b>From its center, the enraged visage of an unknown god began to form. It opened its giant maw and spoke in mysterious tongues. From this mouth of death rushed forth a green mist</b>. The Shissar shaman began to cast spells in hopes of shielding their city and the necromancers began to assault the mist with great magics. All were futile. The mist rushed forth. The first snakes to be swallowed by the mist had their scales and flesh rot and fall from their bones. Glorious screams of suffering could be heard from within the mist. A river of flesh and blood flowed. The Iksar stood and gazed upon the carnage that was once the Shissar. With the Green Mist came the liberation of the Iksar. The season is now 0 A.G, After Green." </i>Find the Original Article Posted <a href="http://p069.ezboard.com/fshadowclaniksarfrm13.showMessage?topicID=33.topic" target=_blank>HERE</a>, referenced from one of the in-game books sold in Cabilis.  I was wrong about the Shissar's gods. I can agree with the stalemate comment, due to the fact that neither were really at their best when the war ended.  But the War was stopped due to the sacrifice of Emperor Ganak. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[Turemvor]

<div></div>I don't know if this helps:--------"Wait, General!" Ignara cried. "Something else approaches from the south!"Urduuk turned. A thick cloud rolled rapidly across the sands, darkening the sky with a dense green haze."What have you done, Urduuk?" the avatar asked him. "What did you do to unleash this madness?"The cloud was moving quickly toward the Rallosians. As it reached the edge of the army's ranks, the ogres it touched fell lifelessly to the ground. The general watched them gasping for air one moment and twitching on the ground the next."My steed!" Urduuk ordered. "The son of Zek must live to fight another day. Bring me my steed!"But no one was left to obey. The mist encircled the general, killing all those around him. Ignara struggled to breathe, reaching out to her leader. Finally even she collapsed."Fool!" the avatar shouted at Urduuk. "It is you who brought this fate onto your own people! The orcs are my only hope now. I will deal with the monks myself." The massive figure marched toward the center of the orc army.The mist coalesced around Urduuk, leaving him no escape. He swung his sword at the green cloud, but there was nothing solid for him to hit.<em>Defiler!</em> it whispered to him. <em>The time has come to pay for your crimes.</em>"What... what are you?" Urduuk stammered.<em>I am the voice of the one you betrayed. Your pride has brought your people to their downfall, just as it was in ancient days. But this time, retribution shall be mine.</em>"I betrayed no one!" he shouted back, swinging his sword wildly.<em>Liar! Fear could have been your ally. Instead you entered its temple and enslaved its children. Your insolence shall be the death of your people. But your soul, defiler, will know Fear for all eternity!</em>"No!" he screamed, but there was no reply. The green mist enveloped him, seeping into Urduuk's lungs and stealing his breath. All around him the general could see his fallen soldiers, the lost remnants of his once unstoppable army.The mist pulled at him, lifting him into the air. Below, Urduuk saw his own body crumpled on the sand. He tried to cry out, but had no voice. The mist carried him southward toward the darkness that lingered hungrily.-----------Taken from the Tome of Destiny.   It seems that the Mist -is- Cazic Thule.  If you read more of the Tome of Destiny it talks about the Rallosians defiling a temple of Thule.  The mist comes and kicks a little butt and then makes reference to 'Fear could have been your ally."  and "will know Fear for all eternity!"I know quite a bit less than nothing about EQ1 or EQ2 lore, but I just caught this thread and though I might share what I was thinking.<div></div>

[Redbed]

<DIV>You know, I dont worship anything but if theres a god I would I have Sided with, it would have been Cazic....I understand him.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Not served mind you...but I would haved played on his team.  I do respect him.</DIV>

[Xxile]

<DIV>none of them won it ended in a draw both leaders were destroyed and the iksars did not start the war the ring of scale did when trak revolted but the iksars took a worse hit then the ring of scale did the sathir eggs were destroyed their slaves revolted goblins showed up every one began to attack them the were forced out of their capital by trak and the slaves and they had to fend for them selvs in the wild while the ring of scale just got a new leader.</DIV>

[MoD1133]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zentalas wrote:<BR>would it be accurate to compare how an Iksar acts to the Kilngons in Star Trek?<BR><BR>A savage brutal race that lives for battle<BR>Who clings to honor heavily and firmly believes in "only the strong shall survive"<BR><BR>the Iksar are responsible for the only empire that i know of to rival the original Rallosian empire.<BR>they formed a caste of monks that were some of the strongest fighters on norrath.<BR><BR>Emperior Sathir had been known to kill dragons in 1 on 1 combat.<BR><BR>im just looking to get into character better any pointers would be apprecated.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>I dont know too much about Star Trek.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>They didnt really start out as a brutal race that lived for war. They were slaves to the shissar but freed after the shissar disapeared from Norrath.The fives Iksar tribes grow strong after being formed. Then after Venril Sathir was born into the Kunzar tribe he becomes the chief and conquers the other tribes and forms the Sebilisian Empire, thats when they get strong and start to rule Kunark except the ring of scale.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I dont think the Sebilisian Empire would rival the great Rallosian Empire.Grandmaster Tynn formed the Swifftale caste which was a very powerful guild.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Emperor Ganak Sathir became the Emperor and using his fathers creations the sokokar he was able to fight dragons but not exactly one on one. He fought Suled Dar and had killed him but it wasnt ever said if it was a one on one combat between them. Jaled Dar fought both the Sokokar which was a half dragon and the iksar ganak sathir who was the strongest at his time since he was the emperor and they both killed each other because of a great explosion of fire and magic. So technically speaking it wasnt a one on one combat since both the sokokar which was after all a <U>half dragon</U> and Ganak both fought against a single dragon defeating it. The iksar evidently lost.</DIV>

[MoD1133]

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[MoD1133]

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[The-Fourm-Pirate]

<DIV>RP is easy for an Iksar if you choose to do it. You hate everyone, Everyone hates you, Halflings taste very good with a little lemon juice and coriander. These are the ways of the Iksar.</DIV>