Need help deciding AA's please

[Elf_Queen]

Im lvl 60 and am still not sure which lines to go down and which to avoid, I primarily play either in a duo with an SK or a small group with a dps, when its just a duo we need dps badly. I dont plan on becoming a raider, I know the agility line looks great but im having trouble with the 2handed spear issue since i never see any for sale that are good that i could afford. is there a quest for a decent one? What lines should be avoided? Any adivce would be much appreciated, I kind of like the intelligence line for the intelligence but not sure if that line is worth it, should i go wisdom if i dont plan on raiding? i never have an issue with power now, but you never know.. thanks

[firewolf]

Don't know about level 60 and up but at 49, I choose to go down wisdom line to get the 3rd skill which is pet proc. Currently I've 3 points in it which gives my pet 9% chance to proc 211-350 slashing damage. Gets 1-3 proc every fight. Not great but  those damage definitely helps. I planned to spend 8 points in it to get to 24%. Then will go down the strength line for ward proc and AE immunity. Since I never raid at the moment, the other line are kinda useless to me. <div></div>

[NimSul]

<P>The 3rd skill in wis line adds some decent dps and the 2nd makes your heals bigger so you have more time to cast nukes so thats a good line down to 3rd.</P> <P>Bouth int2 and str2 are quite nice but picking one is easiest as they have different weapon requirements.</P> <P>Agi3 isnt really as nice as it looks like on paper, your better off spending your time chain casting which limits autoattack. Unless you have a really nice weapon with a big damage spread (ie you want a weapon with 1-20 damage in stead of one with 10-11) then imo its not worth it.</P>

[Broomhilda]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Elf_Queen wrote:<BR>Im lvl 60 and am still not sure which lines to go down and which to avoid, I primarily play either in a duo with an SK or a small group with a dps, when its just a duo we need dps badly. I dont plan on becoming a raider, I know the agility line looks great but im having trouble with the 2handed spear issue since i never see any for sale that are good that i could afford. is there a quest for a decent one? <BR>What lines should be avoided? Any adivce would be much appreciated, I kind of like the intelligence line for the intelligence but not sure if that line is worth it, should i go wisdom if i dont plan on raiding? i never have an issue with power now, but you never know.. thanks<BR><BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Hello Elf_Queen! Long time no see <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  I chose the Str & Sta lines.  The strength line is a necessity for raid SOE's but if you dont intend on raiding (for now) you may want to check out the Wis line.  I love the Stamina line for soloing and Coagulate.  Either way the lines are OK, nothing to write home about IMO, but they definitely do add variety to our class. </P> <P>Anyway, Welcome back!</P>

[Slashflex]

If you max out the melee crits in the agi line, and then find the hardest hitting weapon you can, your going to be able to add a lot of dps purely through auto attack. Couple that with the final ability in the line that is a bersek type ability for you, and you can do some substantial melee dps. Along the way you will also pick up heal crits, wich arent a bad thing.

[sostrows]

AGI looks tasty for soloing.<div></div>

[NimSul]

<P>You dont want the hardest hitting weapon you can get for the agi line, you want the weapon with the highest max hit pr delay sorta speak. Since crits are calculated as max hit + 1 -> max hit +30% then all that matters for your weapon is the max possible hit if you have 100% crit chance.</P> <P>Could have been what you ment but i said it in more words :smileywink:</P>

[SpyrerTheFirst]

<DIV>No matter what you do i'd still go 4-4-4-4-8 on the Strength line, without that AOE avoidance your pet will be dying even on normal heroic mobs. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just a thought</DIV>

[VizP]

To be honest Im personally focussed on the Agi line too - it just seems like my defiler is such a great healer class anyway in a group situation and while I will raid in the future, it definitely wont be a fulltime raid character (simply wont have that much time to invest). So the str line is more of a waste for me just for those few tmies I will. Ive already for the Master 1 for our final putrid heal spell, I intend to get the Master 2 for our final sacrificial and I have the Master 1 ready for our single target ward and it jsut combines for easy healing as the only healer on group situations.While my defiler can solo well, I think we can all agree that it is 'far' from fast. I think pushing up the agi line allows for a defiler to be a truly superb all around character - much wanted in groups of course and when you want to solo.. a powerhouse at that. Currently Im only using a tier 7 weaponsmith made 2 handed spear (forgot name but its +48 str/int approx and a nice gleaming strike proc) and its definitely a great start. I just think that with a decent melee weapon, the damage output can be extensive from the final agi line berserk ability and also putting 8 points into melee crit chances. Course you can assist in a group with the +4 into heal crits as well.My other points are going into the wis line - ritual improves heals (combine that with heal crit and while we generally dont heal much because of wards, when we 'do' heal, itll be a huge one.. and our sacrificial line is the largest heal in the game as it is so if anything thats pretty much overkill on any heal you are forced to do). But Im not interested in the wis line for that but for the pet crit line which Ill be putting 8 points into as well. Simply means that in soloing both the pet and I will be sticking on 'extensive' damage.. combine DOTs on the target with a decent int and you really are doing great damage output. And in group situations the pet damage will be nice as well as your own melee damage if you simply stick on autoattack while you ward/debuff.Not sure about the last 4 points.. may just put them into the next part of wis line to remove aggro on myself (have been having lots of issues with poor tanks and if my damage output does increase because of this, combine this with wards and poor quality tanks not being able to taunt properly and it could result in dead me).So Agi/Wis here. Full Agi (with 8 into melee crit) and then Wis upto aggro reducer (with 8 into pet crit) = Defiler All around AA spec - good grouping, great soloing (NOT raid setup, although huge heals help there).<div></div>

[sostrows]

If you go STR-D for 8 points its a 24% proc off pet to ward yourself for 455.  Pet attacks about 1/2 seconds so you can get about ~60HPS off your pet in the form of his ward.  Combine that with Spiritual Circle and pre-warding, you're a tough hombre to kill.  The pet puts out about ~70DPS at lvl 70 and each line has a weapon ability.If your pet dies from an AE, it's not pretty.  With /respec AA so cheap, it's good to give a couple setups a try but I ended up with basically having to do STR-E as a raider.<div></div>

[VizP]

<div></div>To be honest I personally really liked the Str-D pushed to 8 but I think the Agi line was always so alluring in terms of all extra damage. A combination may also be something Ill try - it means abandoning the Ritualist line and going with the Strength line:Agi: 4/4/8/4/8 (8 points into critical damage chance)Str: 4/4/4/8 (No points into final line)= 48 +1 for pet = 49With my original plan I'd have had higher heals and a heavy criting pet. This is more defensive with a constant ward but with the extra haste as well on the pet. The only thing is the fact that Leg Bite is going to be wasted unless I make myself a little one handed spear macro to get a leg bite in and swap back but I spose its not the end of the world doing that.... this may be better since stronger ritual heals are a little ott esp with increased heal crits, esp with shamans that rarely heal. But the constant ward and haste is better than just the crit pet since it helps in soloing AND groups...Yep like this better <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div><p>Message Edited by VizP on <span class=date_text>07-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:28 PM</span>

[Docimodo]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> NimSul wrote:<BR> <P> Retired cos raiding in eq2 is no more.</P> <P> </P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] man come join me on peeveepee<BR>

[NimSul]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Docimodo wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> NimSul wrote:<BR> <P> Retired cos raiding in eq2 is no more.</P> <P> </P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] man come join me on peeveepee<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Hehe ebay me a 70 defiler on darathar and ill come :smileywink:

[arieste]

<P>I've tried a few things, including Full Agi line for DPS with that hammer from HoF that has max hit of 800.  I found that nuking while decked out in intel gear still did more DPS.  (I didn't do detailed parsing though).  Just consider, you can hit with your hammer for 700 points or you can nuke for 600 (thats just the direct nuke, not counting our dots).</P> <P>If I was duoing with an SK, my set up would be STR 4/4/8/8/8 WIS 4/5/8.  Reasoning follows.</P> <P>1.  You have a pet.  The pet does damage.  It's not much but it's something and you don't have to do anything for it to happen.  Sadly unless you have STR line maxed the dog is useless at T7.  You might not notice it at 60, but by time you're 65, you'll see the dog dies every fight since almost every mob has an AE and it has no HP.  That's the bad news.  The good news is that the STR line is pretty [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] good.  You get a combat art that you can cast while casting so that it takes no time and it goes through the dog so you basically are not distracted.  It gives 16% group haste.  On raid people tend to be maxed on haste as it is, but for duo or grouping, your haste will ALWAYS be useful. It has a ward.  Ward procs a LOT.  Once again, you dont need to do anything, the dog wards the group.  Meaning that's one less ward and one more nuke for you to cast = more dps / debuffs. </P> <P>2.  Wisdom 3 is the hidden gem of shaman AAs.  This proc is massive.  The pet will actually pull aggro off if you solo.  Once again it doesn't require your attention, so you can still be totally nuke happy or be healing, etc.  Dog does damage.  And because dog is AE immune (From STR line) dog doesnt die or need healing.  Also because dog is hasted (from the STR line) it procs that much more. The added benefit is having Ritual (wis2) skill.  In a group or duo where you actually have to throw a heal now and then, it's great to have that heal be 30% bigger.  I originally thought that having 1min recharge is too long, but ive had this spell since a week into DoF and I am still very happy with it.</P> <P>Added bonus in having STR and WIS is that you can have a 1h spear (for STR) and a symbol (for wis) on at the same time.  And there are lots of awesome and easily obtainable symbols in DoF.  Not so much on spears.  I would recommend camping brokers for an Ancient Velium Spear (i cant recall if it's called "spear" but it IS a spear) or a Spear of the Fire Breath, they are both legendary drops the first from DT and second from AoA.  The benefit is that Raiders usually have better, fabled spears, so these will go up for sale for the rest of the world.  If i wasn't raiding, this is what I'd be aiming at getting.</P> <P>If you want a 2h spear, go for Ishii-Kurrat's Sawtooth from HoF instance.  However, if you do go with full agi line, that Hammer with 800pt max is a better bet.  All the spears I've seen have been fast (And hence bad for crits).</P> <P>Another note for consideration:<BR>If I'm not mistaken SKs have either disease or poison nukes, your nuke is a debuff for those 2.  Not to mention corruption is another debuff, you can debuff a mob's disease and poison by almost 2k on you own, thus making your SK friend do even more dmg. </P> <P>Summary:<BR>If I wanted DPS to support my SK / Defiler duo, i would use the afformentioned AA combo, get myself dressed in 500pts of +INT gear and nuke like mad.  I would be increasing the SKs damage via my nuke/dot debuffs and haste, I would be increasing my damage via the dog that does damage even when i'm healing AND i would be increasing group defence with the dog's wards and my huge heal (should it be needed).</P> <P>For those that like numbers, I have a shammy friend with 6 points in Wis3, I've seen his dog parse anywhere from 100 to 180dps on yellow epics.  Just the dog, not him+dog.</P> <P>cheers and best of luck. </P> <P>p.s. oh and if you want to know what to get first.. the answer is... NOT the STR line.  Put your points into whatever you want until you have 25AAs.  Once you have 25, respec over to the STR line (so you can get STR5) and then fill in the rest.  Just a suggestion of course.</P><p>Message Edited by arieste on <span class=date_text>07-17-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:27 PM</span>