question about Abhorrent Shroud

[Belizarius]

<DIV>Abhorrent Shroud (61), group ward and mit buff.</DIV> <DIV>Is this a level 64 training option?</DIV> <DIV>Would a Master I of this be a very sought after spell?</DIV>

[Devizi]

Nope, it isn't a master 2 choice.  Yes, it is a very sought after spell.  Plan on paying a large premium if you can ever find one.  (I paid 20pp) Dephier Club Fu Blackburrow <div></div>

[NimSul]

Im sure you could score at least a good 50p on splitpaw for this, as far as i know none of the top guild defilers has this yet. Personally i have a good 70p stashed away for when this baby comes up. The bug with shammy mitigation buffs and our usual place in mt groups at raids makes this buff very good to have m1.

[Supa Mint Flava]

<DIV>Muahahaha..... I picked up Abhorrent Shroud, and Malignant Shroud last week, both M1, 10p on broker for Abhorrent, and MS was free from guildy <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Discoe</DIV> <DIV>70 Defiler</DIV> <DIV>Kithicor</DIV>

[TheBladesCaress]

I don't use Abhorrent Shroud when raiding.1. Doesnt stack with other priests' Mit buffs, so as long as another MT priest as M1 Mit buff it would not give any bonus2. The autoward can cause problems when prox pulling.3. The concentration slot is better used for Portent on the Cleric or DruidThe only time I use it is in single groups, and it is not really needed there anyway.  I have it at Adept III, wouldnt pay much for a master of it.<div></div>

[Kimage]

<P>I am ususally in the MT group when raiding and I have mine at Adept 3 without much of the diference from Adept 3 to M1, I don't see the point in paying that kind of cash for the M1 version. Though I have only seen one once and it was because a guy in open channels spammed it to show it off. Yea it was nice and all - but I seem to do just fine with the A3 version. </P> <P>Happy Healing</P>

[jfleming2003]

blockquote><blockquote><hr>TheBladesCaress wrote:I don't use Abhorrent Shroud when raiding.1. Doesnt stack with other priests' Mit buffs, so as long as another MT priest as M1 Mit buff it would not give any bonus2. The autoward can cause problems when prox pulling.3. The concentration slot is better used for Portent on the Cleric or DruidThe only time I use it is in single groups, and it is not really needed there anyway.  I have it at Adept III, wouldnt pay much for a master of it.<div></div><hr>In raids, I am group'd with a Fury, Inquisitor and Templar in the MT grp. I parse heals for our raid and Abhorrent Shroud actually absorbs a considerable amount of damage.<p>Message Edited by jfleming2003 on <span class=date_text>05-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:50 AM</span>

[sostrows]

It does but it normally overwrites the mitigation grp buff other the other healers.I don't use it in raids anymore and put Portent on the Templar.<div></div>

[jfleming2003]

There was a bug where the previous version would overwrite the t7 cleric mit buffs. Other than that, we haven't had any problems, at least I haven't been asked to drop the buff or anything.

[sostrows]

I'll have to test the T7 version then.  I have been using the T6 version since I had it at M1 until a couple days ago.So you're saying the Abhorrent Shroud does not share bug of overwriting?<div></div>

[Kimage]

I personally haven't seen it overwritten.

[Sokolov]

I know for sure it overwrote a fellow guildmate's Master 1 Fury mit buff, which had a higher mit component than mine did.I took mine off and my mit went up, put it back on and my mit went down.<div></div>

[Cragger]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Sokolov wrote:I know for sure it overwrote a fellow guildmate's Master 1 Fury mit buff, which had a higher mit component than mine did.I took mine off and my mit went up, put it back on and my mit went down.<div></div><hr></blockquote><font size="2">Correct Abhorrent Shroud does not stack (The mitigation component) with:Fury - Carnal MaskWarden - Protection of the OakInquisitor - PiousTemplar - </font><font size="3"><font size="2">GallantryMystic - Runic AegisAll of these provide if I recall the number correctly 732 physical mitigation plus a unique component at Master I. The physical mitigation does not stack but the unique component is still applied. Though for some like the Fury's Carnal Mask the increased health regen is really quite trivial.</font></font></div><p>Message Edited by Cragger on <span class=date_text>05-10-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:08 PM</span>

[jfleming2003]

<blockquote><hr>Cragger wrote:<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Sokolov wrote:I know for sure it overwrote a fellow guildmate's Master 1 Fury mit buff, which had a higher mit component than mine did.I took mine off and my mit went up, put it back on and my mit went down.<div></div><hr></blockquote><font size="2">Correct Abhorrent Shroud does not stack (The mitigation component) with:Fury - Carnal MaskWarden - Protection of the OakInquisitor - PiousTemplar - </font><font size="3"><font size="2">GallantryMystic - Runic AegisAll of these provide if I recall the number correctly 732 physical mitigation plus a unique component at Master I. The physical mitigation does not stack but the unique component is still applied. Though for some like the Fury's Carnal Mask the increased health regen is really quite trivial.</font></font></div><p>Message Edited by Cragger on <span class=date_text>05-10-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:08 PM</span><hr></blockquote>The previous version of Abhorrent Shroud buff did overwrite the t7 mit buffs of other healers. Have not had any problems with Abhorrent Shroud though. In fact, it shows up on parse as a large part of my heals.

[NimSul]

<P>Havnt tested it post LU23 but abhorrent shroud (and runic aegis for that matter) used to overwrite cleris and druid mitigation buffs, so you would accually loose 100 mitigation on the tank if you put up adept 3 abhorrent shroud if there was another m1 mitigation buff up already.</P> <P>I always have abhorrent shroud adept 3 up despite the mitigation loss (unless we have 2-3 tanks in the group or someone else needs a hp boost to survive). 500 power on ie the templar is nothing more or less than 500 more power total for the fight. This is compareble to 2 reactives or 5-6k healing more at the very most. Abhorrent shroud can on a long fight reach that number for freee just be being up, while adding to your raids total hps where the more power only adds to the lenght you can maintain that your hps. Another thing is most tanks are close to capped mitigation anyways 6200 or 6300 mitigation doesnt really do anything so would rather have the free healing from abhorrent.</P>

[wmmdcis]

<P>technically, i guess your both right, the mitigation part of the spell does not stack with other preists in the group, it will not overwrite anothers mit buff (the game will apply the one with the most mitigation added to the group) and the secondary components of the buffs stack fine.</P> <P>and yes, its worth getting m1 imo, if im in mt group it usually accounts for 10-15% of my totals heals in parse, payed 14p for it myself</P> <P> </P> <P>Ipum 70 Defiler</P>

[Eileithia]

<P>Like others have said.. even if it does overwrite others mit buff.. if you have the master of it.. you have the spell with the highest mitigation.. All of the Priest mitigation buffs are identical mit + some effect.. the mit portion is supposed to take the highest  of the ones available.. the problem was that the T6 version of the spell at master would overwrite the T7 version Adept 3, eventhough the T7 version had higher Mit..</P> <P>Anyways.. if you have the master of this .. use it.. It's a great spell, and I don't think any of the priests get it as a M2 training option.</P>