I LOVE MY DEFILER

[Kimage]

<div>Ok with all the whining and such about our class I just want to say I love my defiler.  I have a lvl 60 Wizzy and when she topped out I worked on her and have now made her my main I love playing her so much.</div><div> </div><div>We need to keep in mind that this game isn't perfect, and every class has something to complain about.  THIS IS A GAME. We can't expect things to be perfect. This is the ever changing world of Everquest 2. There are going to be bugs, and issues with every new thing that comes out. There are plenty of things to whin about, YES!</div><div> </div><div>In the end.</div><div> </div><div><font size="4">I LOVE MY DEFILER!</font></div><div><font size="1">( LONG LIVE THE OVERLORD! )</font></div>

[Broomhilda]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Kimage wrote:<div>In the end.</div><div> </div><div><font size="4">I LOVE MY DEFILER!</font></div><div><font size="1">( LONG LIVE THE OVERLORD! )</font></div><hr></blockquote><p><strong>I too LOVE MY DEFILER</strong>, which is PRECISELY why I DO WHINE about getting her issues fixed!  If I didn't, I woulda re-rolled months ago!</p><p>Peace and love, and yes, Long live our Great Overlord! </p><p>Message Edited by Broomhilda on <span class="date_text">03-30-2006</span><span class="time_text">03:39 PM</span></p>

[surolan]

<div></div><p>I love my defiler too - have played her since November 2004 and survived being a very broken class for a long time. Its nice that since the big class revamp I could finally be a solo healer for a group...instead of what defilers used to hear "now we just need a healer" or one comment I got from someone on splitpaw in the early days "you are a rubbish tank" lol people just didn't know what we were - we were such a rare class!</p><p>But I do love the class though, which is why after 18months of playing every single day - my highest alt level is 33!!!</p><p>Now its nice that as a class we are gradually getting there, but like Broom said - we do have a way to go yet, and hopefully one day we can all enjoy our class with everything working as intended.</p><p>Sometimes we do need to whine tho...as they say - its the squeaky wheel that gets the oil! :smileywink:</p><p> </p>

[ajadams]

<div></div><div></div><p>I love my defiler too. I've been one since Nov 2004 also. I've seen defilers go from "What does a defiler do?" "What, you're a priest?" "You get heals?" to "COME HEAL FOR ME OMG" "We need a defiler on" etc.</p><p> </p><p>Fact is, if you don't submit bug reports, if you DON'T ask questions about our class if you DON'T COMPLAIN the problems will remain the same. Our wards will stay bugged etc. You have to "whine" and bring stuff to the developers attention in order to keep our class the way it is. If you don't, when something goes wrong, how will they know? Yes, LOVE YOUR CLASS! But you're not loving your class if you're not helping out by not filing bug reports etc.</p><p> </p><p>=)</p><p>Message Edited by ajadams on <span class="date_text">03-31-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:43 AM</span></p>

[Raff]

<div></div><blockquote dir="ltr"><div>Ok with all the whining and such about our class I just want to say I love my defiler.  I have a lvl 60 Wizzy and when she topped out I worked on her and have now made her my main I love playing her so much.</div><div> </div><div>We need to keep in mind that this game isn't perfect, and every class has something to complain about.  THIS IS A GAME. We can't expect things to be perfect. This is the ever changing world of Everquest 2. There are going to be bugs, and issues with every new thing that comes out. There are plenty of things to whin about, YES!</div><div> </div><div>In the end.</div><div> </div><div><font size="4">I LOVE MY DEFILER!</font></div><div><font size="1">( LONG LIVE THE OVERLORD! )</font></div><div><font size="1">_____________________________</font></div></blockquote><div><font size="1"></font> </div><div><font size="3">Agreed 100%.</font></div>

[Kimage]

<div></div><p>Yea it is funny when I was in my 30s and 40s how peeps would be like wanna go to RE or CT -- and I get in group then they are like ok anyone know a good healer? hehe</p><p>Everyone knew the Mystic we were like the long lost family member no one knew about. My husband made a dirge and it was the same way with him - its funny there are like 3 classes like that and low and behold they are on the evil side ( dirge, brig, and defiler ). Then they find out what we do and its like WOOO HOLY CRAPAZOID - and next thing I know the group invites keep coming.</p><p>BTW the tank I run with says he requires me and a dirge in his MT group in raids for the buffs - and he said he wont do any other groups without us hehe</p><p>Happy Healing!    :smileytongue:</p>

[Sokolov]

<div><span>I love my Defiler too =)</span></div>

[The_Unsane]

<div></div>I love my defiler too...<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />...This was the first character I created in eq2...no...the first character I created in any mmorpg as eq2 is the first game of the kind I have played...and I got him to 61 so far...had a lot of fun and don't have alot of problems finding a group...sure some things may be wrong with the class,but most of it is just fine...<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Kewt]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>surolan wrote:<div></div><p>I love my defiler too - have played her since November 2004 and survived being a very broken class for a long time. Its nice that since the big class revamp I could finally be a solo healer for a group...instead of what defilers used to hear "now we just need a healer" or one comment I got from someone on splitpaw in the early days "you are a rubbish tank" lol people just didn't know what we were - we were such a rare class!</p><p>But I do love the class though, which is why after 18months of playing every single day - my highest alt level is 33!!!</p><p>Now its nice that as a class we are gradually getting there, but like Broom said - we do have a way to go yet, and hopefully one day we can all enjoy our class with everything working as intended.</p><p>Sometimes we do need to whine tho...as they say - its the squeaky wheel that gets the oil! :smileywink:</p><p> </p><hr></blockquote>I started a week after release and I stopped after 6 months because the class was so weird and useless in many ways. After the big revamp I came back to the game - and I LOVE my defiler! And I really hope that SOE takes the time to fix her, so I can fully enjoy playing.</span></div>

[Zabumt]

<div></div><p>As a Templar, I love you defilers.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Not one priest class out there can bring as much debuff power to the table as you guys do.</p><p> </p>

[Scow]

I love my defiler too. My first and real true character I have. Even when I quit this game even though its on an exchange server I will not sell this dude.<div></div>

[Daisy Lou]

Defiler wasn't my first class.  I started Necromancer and leveled her up to 62, but I've always had this Defiler alt in the background as my provisioner.  Before the class revamp, I wouldn't play her and almost deleted her because I felt like she couldn't do anything.  Boy am I so glad I didn't.  My Defiler is now my main and is almost 64 and is the coolest healer ever.  I've had tanks tell me they don't want to group with other healers because I've spoiled them.I'm really glad this is a rare and sort of unknown class.  It makes my character very unique and very desirable when people do realize our talents.  But I have to agree, if you love something you want it to be the best it can be.  If there is something that is broke, it needs to be fixed, and this will only help you.<div></div>

[posseder]

<div></div>i love my defiler also.But recent combat change since DOF ive made this char totaly useless.The defiler doesnt have no skills for raid anymore. wich is why i had chosen this class was to raid.He now as nothing to bring to a group that other healer class cant do better or dps class.This char was robbed blind on test servers. they took all his skills gave to other class and try to justify it by giving us  skills like malestrom and spiritual circle both totaly useless in raids.Also forced canibalizis i hate myself for asking sony to give my defiler power regen. Wish ive know they would kill my class for it... should left it as it was and get power feed.Funniest thing is how they made power regen usefullness none so ever in the procces.I [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ING LOVE YOU SONY.Yes i love my defiler but i hate what the gaming community have done to him on test server with the help of sony.And for those fo you that think we all uber and the like, a freaking paladin is a better healer then we are for christsakes.

[MiaPage]

<div></div><p>Defilers are great, they have come a long way.  I remember back in the days when we were only a support healing class, now we can be the main healer when necessary.</p><p> </p><p>I think the class was fixed due to all of the complaints people posted, in the end it was a good thing.  I just wish we could do better damage....yea I know we heal not do damage.  It just takes so dam long to kill stuff!</p>

[Daisy Lou]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>posseder wrote:<div></div>i love my defiler also.But recent combat change since DOF ive made this char totaly useless.The defiler doesnt have no skills for raid anymore. wich is why i had chosen this class was to raid.<font color="#ff6666">If the defiler doesn't have no skills to raid anymore, this means he has skills right? <span>:smileysurprised:</span> What exactly was it that you were looking for in a raiding class?</font>He now as nothing to bring to a group that other healer class cant do better or dps class.This char was robbed blind on test servers. they took all his skills gave to other class and try to justify it by giving us  skills like malestrom and spiritual circle both totaly useless in raids.<font color="#ff6666">Not every spell that you have is intended to be used in every situation in the game.  I can't think of another class that can ward and debuff better than my defiler.  What was taken away from us and who did they give it to?</font>Also forced canibalizis i hate myself for asking sony to give my defiler power regen. Wish ive know they would kill my class for it... should left it as it was and get power feed.Funniest thing is how they made power regen usefullness none so ever in the procces.<font color="#ff6666">If you wanted a useful raid character with great power regen why didn't your roll an enchanter?  Why play a class you are obviously so disgusted with?</font>I [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ING LOVE YOU SONY.Yes i love my defiler but i hate what the gaming community have done to him on test server with the help of sony.And for those fo you that think we all uber and the like, a freaking paladin is a better healer then we are for christsakes.<font color="#ff6666">Seriously, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed or something?  Why play a class you feel is so entirely useless?  Defilers are great and are one of the best healer classes in EQ2 (I am biased<span>:smileywink:</span>).  If you disagree why waste your time playing one?  And why waste your time coming to these boards and posting such BS about the class?</font><hr></blockquote></span></div>

[Scow]

Wow Ponder. The only thing I can say is either you dont know the defiler role in a raid situation or that you need to join a better raiding guild. Im always either in the Main group or MA group for buffs and debuffs. Rarely do I do damage my main focus is warding and removing dots and then the occasional spot heal.<div></div>

[Broomhilda]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>posseder wrote:<div></div>i love my defiler also.But recent combat change since DOF ive made this char totaly useless.The defiler doesnt have no skills for raid anymore. wich is why i had chosen this class was to raid.He now as nothing to bring to a group that other healer class cant do better or dps class.This char was robbed blind on test servers. they took all his skills gave to other class and try to justify it by giving us  skills like malestrom and spiritual circle both totaly useless in raids.Also forced canibalizis i hate myself for asking sony to give my defiler power regen. Wish ive know they would kill my class for it... should left it as it was and get power feed.Funniest thing is how they made power regen usefullness none so ever in the procces.I [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ING LOVE YOU SONY.Yes i love my defiler but i hate what the gaming community have done to him on test server with the help of sony.And for those fo you that think we all uber and the like, a freaking paladin is a better healer then we are for christsakes.<hr></blockquote><font size="2"><p>Hummm, not sure how to answer this one. With all due respect Poss are we playing the same class? Defilers are the raid shaman. Why? Because most of our debuffs are single target and powerful, exactly what raid mobs need to make them manageable to tank. Insofar as group contribution, we have the highest HP buffs in the game, a fact that makes us enviable to our Qeynos counterparts (see the numerous posts on this topic in the mystic forums). Having any kind of power ciphon/regesn as a healer is also quite valuable. Maelstrom and Spiritual circle are far more group oriented, as you stated, but this is exactly what Defilers needed. We needed a few spells that we could utilize to make grouping easier, its impossible to raid ALL the time.</p><p>Everyone knows me and knows how critical I can be of the class and of SOE's handling of it, I never ran around going on about how Uber Defilers were, but in all honestly I simply cannot see what your talking about Defilers are probably one of the best raid oriented classes (along with trouby's, wizzy's and a few others) in the game. Prior to the revamp we had two stam debuffs (unneccessary IMO), broken wards and many other issues and bugs. After the revamp with have wards that consider mitigation, nice stat debuffs and a host of other bells and whistles that makes us excellent for raiding. So again, I ask, are we playing the same class?</p><p>Also, and I know this has been said 100 times but it bears repeating, we are healers not dpsers.  The closest healing class to doing d"ecent" dps is a fury and it sure ain't us.  So if dps is something you wanna do while helaing please consider re-rolling a druid.  Thanks!</p><p>Good luck!</p></font><p>Message Edited by Broomhilda on <span class="date_text">04-05-2006</span><span class="time_text">01:15 PM</span></p>

[Kimage]

<div></div><p>WOW dude~ are you ok? I suggest changing classes. Cuz you obviously don't get the role of a defiler. I have spoiled my tank ( a guardian ) with my defiler. I played a wizzy to lvl 60, and switched mains cuz the defiler is so much more fun. Yea the dps thing drives me crazy sometimes cuz well hello I came from a wizzy who dealt out 5K damage with an ice comet. So yea sometimes I get frustrated, but HELLO NOT MY JOB AS HEALER. I keep my guardian up!  As for cannablize - we do Egg about every other nite and I have learned that it really helps to cast that at about 50% on Chamberlin just cuz he likes to suck the pwr from me and the health from my fury helper ( no I don't dare try to solo heal him --- just yet. ). If you want SERIOUS pwr regin try going with a chanter or a bard dude. But sometimes it gives me just enough pwr to keep the tank up and thus winning the fight. </p><p>As for the comparasin to a pally? well again we are in the business of PREVENTING damage! And I have a very good lvl 70 pally friend and he said that the heals aint all they are cracked up to be. Though if you think you can be a better healer with a pally be my guess.</p><p>Till then ---- Happy Hunting / Happy Healing!</p>

[Sokolov]

<div>Did a post get deleted or something?  This thread is getting confusing.<span></span></div>

[Ishnar]

<div>I think one or two have dissapeared.  I could swear there were a few after broom.</div>

[Sokolov]

<div><span>I wish all the mods would do like Moorgard and just edit the post, leaving a note.</span></div>

[Broomhilda]

<div></div>Not sure and can't remember what post is gone.  However when someoneis banned I beleive ALL their posts are removed from the forums.  I can be wrong but I think thats what happens.

[Ixnay]

<div></div><p>I also love my defiler.  The more I play him, the more I like this class.  I realize what I'm about to say next won't be popular with many, but I still love Defile, even after the reduction.</p><p><3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3</p>

[Sokolov]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Ixnay wrote:<div></div><p>I also love my defiler.  The more I play him, the more I like this class.  I realize what I'm about to say next won't be popular with many, but I still love Defile, even after the reduction.</p><p><3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3</p><hr></blockquote>I never got a chance to play with the pre-nerf Defile, but its current state is still quite cool.  I especially enjoy it in PvP combat - I have dubbed it "the mage killer."</span></div>

[Ixnay]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Sokolov wrote:<div><span>I never got a chance to play with the pre-nerf Defile, but its current state is still quite cool.  I especially enjoy it in PvP combat - I have dubbed it "the mage killer."</span></div><hr></blockquote><p>Lol, so true, and the best part of all is that they can try to run, but they just can't hide!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I just keep thinking that the concept of mobile AE, or having the player become the AE, is one of the most original and creative concepts I've seen in this game.  And it sure is effective against wizards and that pesky Ice Nova!  You can't cast most long cast nukes while moving, and you can't stand still while I'm eating you alive lol <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Lamprey_02]

<P>I've noticed there are two kinds of people who profess to like their class.</P> <P>1 - People who like their class, are happy with it, and enjoy playing it</P> <P>2 - People who like <STRONG>what they think their class should be</STRONG> and always moan about wanting 'fixes'</P> <P>Now, to focus on the second category. These are the ones who will find every post made about a class being great and will append something to the effect of "I love the class, therefore I cry about it incessantly". They're usually honest, too. What they don't realize is that their idea of what a class should be and the devs' idea do not match. They see other classes, get class envy and their suspicion of their own inferiority slowly turns into an ingrained belief. </P> <P>These people are easily identifiable when they're calling for boosts to a class (any class, really, not just defiler) while referring to them as 'fixes', as in they're meant to 'fix' the class so that it reaches the desired - not to be confused with intended - state.</P> <P>Which one are you?</P>

[MilkToa]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lamprey_02 wrote:<BR> <P>I've noticed there are two kinds of people who profess to like their class.</P> <P>1 - People who like their class, are happy with it, and enjoy playing it</P> <P>2 - People who like <STRONG>what they think their class should be</STRONG> and always moan about wanting 'fixes'</P> <P>Now, to focus on the second category. These are the ones who will find every post made about a class being great and will append something to the effect of "I love the class, therefore I cry about it incessantly". They're usually honest, too. What they don't realize is that their idea of what a class should be and the devs' idea do not match. They see other classes, get class envy and their suspicion of their own inferiority slowly turns into an ingrained belief. </P> <P>These people are easily identifiable when they're calling for boosts to a class (any class, really, not just defiler) while referring to them as 'fixes', as in they're meant to 'fix' the class so that it reaches the desired - not to be confused with intended - state.</P> <P>Which one are you?</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Obviously, there's at least a third; those that like to categorize people and mis-represent and over-simplify their viewpoints.</P> <P> </P> <P><BR> </P>

[Daisy Lou]

<div><blockquote><hr>MilkToast wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Lamprey_02 wrote: <div></div> <p>I've noticed there are two kinds of people who profess to like their class.</p> <p>1 - People who like their class, are happy with it, and enjoy playing it</p> <p>2 - People who like <strong>what they think their class should be</strong> and always moan about wanting 'fixes'</p> <p>Now, to focus on the second category. These are the ones who will find every post made about a class being great and will append something to the effect of "I love the class, therefore I cry about it incessantly". They're usually honest, too. What they don't realize is that their idea of what a class should be and the devs' idea do not match. They see other classes, get class envy and their suspicion of their own inferiority slowly turns into an ingrained belief. </p> <p>These people are easily identifiable when they're calling for boosts to a class (any class, really, not just defiler) while referring to them as 'fixes', as in they're meant to 'fix' the class so that it reaches the desired - not to be confused with intended - state.</p> <p>Which one are you?</p> <hr> </blockquote> <p>Obviously, there's at least a third; those that like to categorize people and mis-represent and over-simplify their viewpoints.</p> <hr></blockquote>What does that have to do with "two kinds of people who profess to like their class"?  Somebody sounds upset to have fallen into group 2.</div>

[MilkToa]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Daisy Lou wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MilkToast wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lamprey_02 wrote:<BR> <P>I've noticed there are two kinds of people who profess to like their class.</P> <P>1 - People who like their class, are happy with it, and enjoy playing it</P> <P>2 - People who like <STRONG>what they think their class should be</STRONG> and always moan about wanting 'fixes'</P> <P>Now, to focus on the second category. These are the ones who will find every post made about a class being great and will append something to the effect of "I love the class, therefore I cry about it incessantly". They're usually honest, too. What they don't realize is that their idea of what a class should be and the devs' idea do not match. They see other classes, get class envy and their suspicion of their own inferiority slowly turns into an ingrained belief. </P> <P>These people are easily identifiable when they're calling for boosts to a class (any class, really, not just defiler) while referring to them as 'fixes', as in they're meant to 'fix' the class so that it reaches the desired - not to be confused with intended - state.</P> <P>Which one are you?</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Obviously, there's at least a third; those that like to categorize people and mis-represent and over-simplify their viewpoints.</P> <P> </P> <P><BR> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>What does that have to do with "two kinds of people who profess to like their class"?  Somebody sounds upset to have fallen into group 2.<BR><BR><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>The apparent intent of the original poster was to paint anyone who posts issues with their class in a negative light. The fact is that EQ2 is a dynamic enviroment where things are constantly changing not the static environment implied by the poster. The class a player started playing may have been changed dramatically over time by SOE along with the way it performs relative to other classes and the EQ2 environment. These changes are outside of the control of the player and may affect their game play and consequently their satisfaction with their class and the game. Trying to equate all of this to some psychological deficiency in the player is ridiculous.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Tannon1]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lamprey_02 wrote:<BR> <P>I've noticed there are two kinds of people who profess to like their class.</P> <P>1 - People who like their class, are happy with it, and enjoy playing it</P> <P>2 - People who like <STRONG>what they think their class should be</STRONG> and always moan about wanting fixes'</P> <P>Now, to focus on the second category. These are the ones who will find every post made about a class being great and will append something to the effect of "I love the class, therefore I cry about it incessantly". They're usually honest, too. What they don't realize is that their idea of what a class should be and the devs' idea do not match. They see other classes, get class envy and their suspicion of their own inferiority slowly turns into an ingrained belief. </P> <P>These people are easily identifiable when they're calling for boosts to a class (any class, really, not just defiler) while referring to them as 'fixes', as in they're meant to 'fix' the class so that it reaches the desired - not to be confused with intended - state.</P> <P>Which one are you?</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>And then there is the large majority of us who hope that the people in group 2 get our problems noticed and fixed. </P> <P>While the 4th type of person spends their time catorizing other people and insulting anyone that doesn't think like them, instead of doing something constuctive with thier time.<BR></P>

[Broomhilda]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lamprey_02 wrote:<BR> <P>These people are easily identifiable when they're calling for boosts to a class (any class, really, not just defiler) while referring to them as 'fixes', as in they're meant to 'fix' the class so that it reaches the desired - not to be confused with intended - state.</P> <P>Which one are you?</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I suppose asking for wards that dont allow "leakage",is asking for a "boost"?  I think we need to define what is an actual fix.  A request for a fix is not a demand for a Boost!  Its a request to correct an error based on supplied, empirical data as proof.  This is the kind of feedback btw that game developers look for.  No one's asking for a "desired" state...we are asking for the spell to work "as intended" at the very least.  Many simply were not (VOA, Spirit Avenger, wards, etc. the list goes on) .  </P> <P>As a community it is our responsibility to bring this to the attention of the appropriate parties.  My only regret about lending support to getting issues corrected is that people that do nothing for the class (but maybe make insulting posts directed at the people actually trying to do something!)  get to benefit from any fixes to the problems  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  </P><p>Message Edited by Broomhilda on <span class=date_text>04-13-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:07 PM</span>

[Kimage]

<P>:smileysad: Ok as the original poster to this thread my point was to state that I love my class. I understand that there are bugs ( ie the leakage with our wards, which has since been fixed and am loving it ). I want the bugs fixed. I just wanted to put out a thread that said how much I like my class and that we shouldn't get to worked up in the problems of our class. Every class has thier problems and I saw so many *debates and complaining* about our class, I just wanted to put a POSITIVE post out there. That is all. I didn't think that it woudl be this much of an issue. Wasn't trying to BASH ANYONE or anything compared to the peeps that are speaking out to get our bugs fixed ( and I willa dmit there are some ). I just wanted to say something positive most of all. </P> <P>Sorry! :smileysad:</P>

[Xa]

<P>I love how people don't understand what defilers do</P> <P>I play on Venekor (RP/PVP) non exch </P> <P> </P> <P>Some [Removed for Content] in my group was boasting that he had a level 70 on another server, and kept saying, 'WE NEED A HEALER'</P> <P> </P> <P>-.-</P> <P> </P> <P>I like keeping silent at this point waiting until SOMEONE with a flipping brain says that we already have one!</P>

[radical_EDWARD]

<DIV><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lamprey_02 wrote:<BR> <P>I've noticed there are two kinds of people who profess to like their class.</P> <P>1 - People who like their class, are happy with it, and enjoy playing it</P> <P>2 - People who like <STRONG>what they think their class should be</STRONG> and always moan about wanting 'fixes'</P> <P>Now, to focus on the second category. These are the ones who will find every post made about a class being great and will append something to the effect of "I love the class, therefore I cry about it incessantly". They're usually honest, too. What they don't realize is that their idea of what a class should be and the devs' idea do not match. They see other classes, get class envy and their suspicion of their own inferiority slowly turns into an ingrained belief. </P> <P>These people are easily identifiable when they're calling for boosts to a class (any class, really, not just defiler) while referring to them as 'fixes', as in they're meant to 'fix' the class so that it reaches the desired - not to be confused with intended - state.</P> <P>Which one are you?</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>i want to be a fury <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/bfa14/emanji01.jpg"></DIV><p>Message Edited by radical_EDWARD on <span class=date_text>04-21-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:51 AM</span>

[silentpsycho]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Xaor wrote:<BR> <P>I love how people don't understand what defilers do</P> <P>I play on Venekor (RP/PVP) non exch </P> <P> </P> <P>Some [Removed for Content] in my group was boasting that he had a level 70 on another server, and kept saying, 'WE NEED A HEALER'</P> <P> </P> <P>-.-</P> <P> </P> <P>I like keeping silent at this point waiting until SOMEONE with a flipping brain says that we already have one!</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I had to chuckle at this.  This happend to me a few nights ago while working on armor quests and stuff.  I didn't say anything and they found a Fury to come along.  Well, that Fury was probably a very good healer, but didn't get much of a chance to cast a heal unless I went AFK or ran to turn in a quest (or the time we were overrun by orange/red con PK'ers).   I grouped with them over two nights and we accomplished AQ1-4 together, all the while the tank pretty much took zero damage (sometimes the assasin forgot to aggro transfer/evade, burned through group ward and whoops, occasionally died).  In any case, now it seems that group won't go anywhere with out me.

[grc001]

<P>I decided about a month ago that I needed a healer type class but I wanted an evil character (I wanted to even out my amount of toons in each city).   I looked them all over,  and picked Defiler.  It sounded it quite nasty and we didn't have many in our guild..(I think there are 12 out of 300+ toons!)  Plus I wanted something totally different from my main, a 57th lvl Paladin, called Miisha.</P> <P>Thus was born Ringwurm, Troll defiler of Freeport, and I gotta tell ya he is sooooo much fun to play.  I love the class.  I love my troll! :smileyvery-happy:  So far he is only 15th lvl but I like what I see.</P> <P> </P> <P>grc</P> <P>Ringwurm, 15th Defiler of Najena.</P>