Defiler or Fury

[Arcadiac]

 I can't seem to decide which I want to play.  I like the idea of the Defiler much more with Fears/Wards/Disease/Poison and Forced Cannibalize.  I also like the Quick casting Heals/HoTs/Good Nuke Damage/AoE DD of a Fury and group invis is also nice. I have read posts back and forth on how Defiler has great DPS, Defiler has no DPS, Defiler can DPS as much as a Fury with all our DoTs, Defiler comes no where near Furies DPS, HoTs are better then Wards vice versa back and forth on every aspect.  It is almost impossible for me to choose.  Yesterday I lvld a Fury and Defiler up to 10 to see if I could notice any difference at low lvls and it just seemed like Fury killed much faster but had to heal all the time where as my Defiler never had to heal even with 3 mobs on me but killed much slower.  I know that isn't going to tell me much being low lvls but i just wanted to get a feel for both.Can anyone please give me their take on these classes?  I am mainly concerned with soloability for pvp and pve.  I am pretty sure both will shine as well as the other in a group situation.  I did notice that Fury only have a PBAE Snare while the Defiler gets a PBAE Fear and a Fear that will proc off weapon attacks.I am willing to read any aspects on the two from people who have experienced both or peoples take in general. Thanks,<div></div>

[RanaFatua]

well I have both a 60 Fury and a 55 Defiler. The defiler was my main for the longest time I love the defiler but as you said they lack in the DPS area. She does make up for it in debuffs.  My fury on the other hand out dps any healer class by far. I really do like both of them. It really depends on what you are going to be doing more soloing or grouping. both are good at duels I have noticed that defilers can take classes my fury cant take, Do to there debuffs but the fight is long. where as my fury I cant take some classes but other classes I can take easily and fast. so its really hard when it comes down to it.<div></div>

[NimSul]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Arcadiac wrote: I can't seem to decide which I want to play.  I like the idea of the Defiler much more with Fears/Wards/Disease/Poison and Forced Cannibalize.  I also like the Quick casting Heals/HoTs/Good Nuke Damage/AoE DD of a Fury and group invis is also nice. I have read posts back and forth on how Defiler has great DPS, Defiler has no DPS, Defiler can DPS as much as a Fury with all our DoTs, Defiler comes no where near Furies DPS, HoTs are better then Wards vice versa back and forth on every aspect.  It is almost impossible for me to choose.  <font color="#ff0000">Yesterday I lvld a Fury and Defiler up to 10 to see if I could notice any difference at low lvls and it just seemed like Fury killed much faster but had to heal all the time where as my Defiler never had to heal even with 3 mobs on me but killed much slower</font>.  I know that isn't going to tell me much being low lvls but i just wanted to get a feel for both.Can anyone please give me their take on these classes?  I am mainly concerned with soloability for pvp and pve.  I am pretty sure both will shine as well as the other in a group situation.  I did notice that Fury only have a PBAE Snare while the Defiler gets a PBAE Fear and a <font color="#ffff00">Fear that will proc off weapon attacks.</font>I am willing to read any aspects on the two from people who have experienced both or peoples take in general. Thanks,<div></div><hr></blockquote><p><font color="#ff0000">Seems the devs did a good job at scaling down the high lvl abilitys of the two classes. Defilers have a very high survevability when soloing, we rarely die unless things go really wrong or we simply run out of power before the mob is dead, the downside to this is we have painfully little dps and soloing is slooow. Furys are quite a bit more frail, but kills alot faster. When you go up thru the 50s these tendensies will strenghten, defilers become even harder to kill and get lower dps compared to mob hp, where furys become easier to kill for the mobs and get ever more dps.</font></p><p><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#ffff00">Thats our old self buff, it had a 10% fear proc on it, but no more</font></font></p><p><font color="#ffffff">In groups i will always take a fury over a defiler when im playing my bruiser or ranger, simply because debuffing is useless in groups - stuff die too fast. The fury is plenty capable of healing all thats needed and he adds quite alot of dps with buffs.</font></p>

[Arcadiac]

   I appreciate both the replies they helped me quite a bit.  Atleast I'm finally hearing input from people that play both.  Seems no one has complaints at all about Fury's but quite a bit of good and bad for Defilers.  Seems Fury is the way to go.  I thought Defilers would be great on a pvp server and solo pveing with all their debuffs.  We'll see where I go i'm still deciding (tough decision).Anyone know where I can find updated Defiler and Fury spell lists?  Ones that list damage anyway?<div></div>

[sostrows]

Play both to level ~25.  You might even decide neither class if for you or you may like to bounce between them.<div></div>