Defilers-Beyond the Healing?

[Kazor]

<div></div><div><img border="0" width="1" alt="" height="1" src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/p.gif"><div><font color="#cccccc"> As a recent WoW refugee I find my self back at the door step of EQ2.Nice to see alot has changed for the better since the last time I played. However I find myself at a loss for what class i should play. My friends and I decided I would be the healer this time around which im fine with I love the role. But I also like to be able to hold my own which brings me to my point.</font></div><div><font color="#cccccc"></font> </div><div><font color="#cccccc">  Ive done some reading on the 3 classes that most interest me. Defiler Inquisitor and Fury. As ive seen on the fury forum they are apparently perfect which means SOE has them in the crosshairs more than likely. So staying clear of that.  </font></div><div><font color="#cccccc"></font> </div><div><font color="#cccccc">  And so Im left with Defiler and Inquisitor of these two there are things i love about both((ward style of healing and wraith form to name a few for defilers)). However I need to know.  When I inevitably end up needing to solo how are Defilers at it? What about for PVP. I plan to go the the pvp server as soon as it launches and Ill need to be able to hold my own otherwise whats the point. What if i need to add some damage near the end of a fight? Will I just end up being a heal bot in all situations if i choose this class? Ive posted this same question on the Inquisitor forum and look foward to your answers. Thanks</font></div></div>

[radical_EDWARD]

<div>soloing as a defiler sucks. and pvp as a defiler isnt that fun either, even though its almost impossible for any fighter to kill us. I would say from 1-10 defiler is a 7 at pvping. If you like PVP, i highly HIGHLY suggest u go dps<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> its about 1000000000 times for fun. I know, i have a lvl 60 necro alt for pvp <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> .</div>

[Rhe]

<div></div>As it stands now Defilers are probably the best defensive healer class in the game.  Their wards are rather strong, all of them, they have what basically amounts to a form of blade block (regenerating 152 hp ward vs magic damage), ward pet, and 2 normal wards and 2 emergency wards, and they also have respectable debuffs.  Defilers lack any significant way to cause damage to a mob.  Their best dot lasts 16 secs and has a16 sec recast.  Their best AE dot stuns them and your other dots will wear off quickly only giving you the damgae of that one AE while its on because you are stunned and can't cast.I doubt Defilers will get nerfed anytime soon due to their total lack of offensive capabilities, however defensively there isn't a healer in the game, including templars, that can do what they can do.  Mystics come exceptionally close, but I'd take ward pet over their heal pet as the tipper.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Rhent on <span class="date_text">01-25-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:41 PM</span></p>

[Nev]

I have a 35 defiler, my wife has a 48 inquisitor and when she was my level it took her about the same tim eto kill things as it takes me. We have low dps, its just how we are built, but I can handle keeping more ppl alive than she cak, and I am better in PvP. it could be the goon behind the toon, but hey, defilers rule!

[Eileithia]

<div></div><p>60 Defiler here.. I have to say out of all the classes I've played (pretty much all of them at one point in time) Defiler is still the MOST fun class I've done.. We do rule in PVP.. just knowing what to use when, and never forget your fears.. (Cheezy but effective)</p><p>We are great soloers.. if you have the time.. We can kill a lot that other classes can't, but will take forever to do it.. It is however, very safe..</p><p>As to soloing between and Inq, and a Defiler.. I believe Inquisitors have slightly more DPS than we do, but they are somewhat hindered by the fact that they wear plate while soloing.. (doesn't mean they can't switch to chain, but most will use plate if they have a choice).. Plate increases your inturrupts like crazy when soloing, as you are getting hit a lot more, but for less damage.. A good defiler in Chain, or even leather.. will get hit harder, but will avoid more attacks..</p><p>Personally, having played both classes, I would say that Defiler is by far my favourite.. we have a lot of diversity, and we're probably one of the best healers in the game.. (At least I think so)</p>

[snarfodg]

I have a 60 defiler as well. She was my third toon (after my berserker and wizard) and she has been by far the most fun to play. The dps sucks, to be sure, but then nuking is not the healer role. PvP with a defiler is really slow, but that can be enjoyable in its own way. I dueled a high Templar out of boredom the other day and one bystander noted that it was like watching two turtles, um, make sweet love <span>:smileyhappy:</span>The fight took forever, but since he couldn't hit me I just kept my power regen going and slooooowly wore him down with my 5 DoTs. Sure, they are weak, but every few seconds he was taking a couple hundred points of damage forcing him to heal.Good times!<div></div>

[Turb]

Good point on the fears.Was duelling a SK in East Freeport, the bugger used harm touch, I was caught a little out so used my fear, and he fled off the dock into the water, and out of the PvP circle, defaulting a win for me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Go defiler for the heals. We are very very very very very very slow soloers. If you want a healer with dps, go fury. They may or may not be nerfed. But we can still outheal them, which is what we do. SO yeah, healbot maybe, but a good one!I don't solo with my defiler, it's painful. That's what I have a bruiser for... <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[sostrows]

soloing is slow with any priest.  probably a better question would be - which priest is best at soloing a quest kill?????defiler has to be at the top of the list of all classes for solo capabilities though.  i solo'd the Deception DFC Assault zone with the last mobs being 55^^^, 55^^ and 55^ priest.  i have good gear and great spells but there not a whole lot of classes that can solo (albeit slowly) what we can.  gone are the Purulence days but still not bad.  jealous of the fury invis though, you would think we would be hard to see as a wraith? odd.   mages seem to kings of solo ability. for xp - trio is the bomb way to go for xp but a dual partner is great too.  soloing you get more xp questing in my mind.<div></div>

[VizP]

My thoughts:Exping: simply right up there as secone to none - wards and debuffs, we are extremely comfortable as solo healing any group if it is in that exp zone or whatever it is to 'solo' heal a group <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> So easy in fact that it seems to be I can it seems answer tells from friends and chat away whole quickly wardinf and debuffing and not pay much attention lol (I have an easy hot key setup too but honestly, defiler practice and its poetry in motion).Raiding: defiler in main group - as far as I can see is always the case. Group wards and single wards at master are stronger than mystics (Venekor yesterday my wards were overwriting a lvl 60 mystics.. Master 1 single target, Adept 3 Carrion Aegis no less) and then we 'also' have Spirit Circle. Add to that huge health buffs on MT and we are always at the front. Doesnt end there, you are are handing down huge debuffs on the targets and thsu are pretty much one of the keystones of any raid.PvP: we are one of the top PvP classes - simply, no tank class or melee classes can kill us. Of course against healers we are likely to draw but then healer vs healer fights are not the most fun. We can kill nukers but it depends of course - mages are the issue.. see necros and stupendous dps attack and of course brigands etc.. practice will make perfect. Point is we are one of the strongest classes and its good to know that we can not lost against melee OR healer classes. That only leaves DPS.Fun: Honestly as someone said above, we are terribly fun to play - so much variety in spells that are being used, wards, debuffs, proc wards jsut so much to do. So you really should not be bored as a defiler - actually our fun spells can be fun lol, tie up the vomit spell to a macro for example, our spirit hawk really looks beautiful and heres a neat defiler only trick:Turn on wraith form and make sure you are not hiding illusions so everone can see the mist. Then turn on 'any' illusion spell i.e. spirit hawk form. As transformation occurs, wraith form will prevent the illusion becoming visible. So with defilers you will see your whole form glow and then literally melt from head to toe with a fading sound. This actually occurs on anyone but is only visible in this way with defilers becayse of wraith. Yes I know totally useless but as a friend said to me yesterday: 'wow you defilers really get the cool stuff'.Solo: People keep saying soloing with defilers is bad but that is the issue with 'all' priest classes and we are the best soloers of any priest class with the only comparison being furies! Honestly, wards + chain + our debuffs + spirit circle and I cant see where the contest lies. It is slow but we can kill things that most others can't - yes slowly but they die. This helps especially when you want to kill some quest mob that is 'soloable' bu good soloers i.e. you. For exp soloing I stopped doing that a long time ago.. Im close to 60 now, if I want exp I am going to get a group and I am going to wait around 1 minute for one when I turn on my lfg flag. So I am unsure why I would ever solo.Defilers - I wanted to be one when i started on isle of refuge, Im closing on 60 and I havent regretted it once, loved every moment and I know those I have healed have felt they are in the safest hands. I love the fact we are rare too, we get the quickest choices of masters, less competition to grab em off broker and generally its good to know there are only x defilers on yours erver higher than you, this number being terribly low (or in my case one of two high elf defilers lol, with my being the highest). Yes.. oh which leaves one more thing!Roleplay: A class that steals souls and uses them for their own ends? Huge potential to roleplay which I love.. Ive been writing about it in my journal, writing my own lore behind defiler arts since SOE have no information on that and having a blast in game rping out a Koada'dal defiler. Honestly my enjoyment of this class is endless <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Supernova17]

<span><blockquote><hr>Turb0T wrote:Go defiler for the heals. If you want a healer with dps, go fury. They may or may not be nerfed. But we can still outheal them, which is what we do.<hr></blockquote>I fail to see how Defilers can outheal Furies, since your primary way of protecting a group is preventing damage, rather than healing.On a typical long night of raid parsing for me, it usually follows something like this:Total Heals:Fury 1,000,000Templar 960,000Inquisitor 890,000Warden 850,000Paladin 40,000Defiler 25,000Mystic 23,000The Shamans are always at the bottom, because they use damage prevention as their primary tools, while the other 4 classes use tools that heal (eg reactive and regen)Also, Defilers and Templars share the same powerful spot heals with slow casting and long recast, so your heals are nothing spectacular.Every class has its good and bad situations, and all are welcome in groups looking for a healer.</span><div></div>

[radical_EDWARD]

<div><blockquote><hr>Supernova17 wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Turb0T wrote:Go defiler for the heals. If you want a healer with dps, go fury. They may or may not be nerfed. But we can still outheal them, which is what we do.<hr></blockquote>I fail to see how Defilers can outheal Furies, since your primary way of protecting a group is preventing damage, rather than healing.On a typical long night of raid parsing for me, it usually follows something like this:Total Heals:Fury 1,000,000Templar 960,000Inquisitor 890,000Warden 850,000Paladin 40,000Defiler 25,000Mystic 23,000The Shamans are always at the bottom, because they use damage prevention as their primary tools, while the other 4 classes use tools that heal (eg reactive and regen)Also, Defilers and Templars share the same powerful spot heals with slow casting and long recast, so your heals are nothing spectacular.Every class has its good and bad situations, and all are welcome in groups looking for a healer.</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>wow those numbers dont look right at all, unless you have some extremely sorry shamans lol. On a typical raid doing mostly wards, i usually do about 1/4 the amount of healing of a fury. 25k of healing on a raid suggest that your shamans are slacking badly <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[sostrows]

if a raid kill goes right.....my healing should be 0<div></div>

[VizP]

<div></div><div></div>Yes pretty much - not sure how long it willt ake some people to realise this very simply yet logical statement:<font color="#ffcc00">'Preventing 'x' damage on a target is the same as healing the target for that same amount of damage 'had' he taken it'</font><font color="#ffcc00"></font>Now lets see some of these people scratch their heads and stare at it before it finally goes into there 'oh look its a parse' mentality. Yes - preventative or not, wards are healing and its a shame wards do not parse or that funny list would look a lot different.On a good raid I don't heal much either. After our huge debuffs and wards being up, there is nothing much to heal. Yes we are 'that' good. Now adding heals we actually had to bother to do to wards we put up and we have a healing parse.This sort of discussion doesnt mean a lot to me though - I am in one of the top raiding guilds on Lucan D'Lere and they know very well what 'healing' means and anyone that has sense takes wards as 'heals'... actually it seems to me most do on this server. Maybe this ignorance is centred on some other servers <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div><p>Message Edited by VizP on <span class="date_text">01-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:35 AM</span></p>

[radical_EDWARD]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>VizP wrote:<div></div><div></div>Yes pretty much - not sure how long it willt ake some people to realise this very simply yet logical statement:<font color="#ffcc00">'Preventing 'x' damage on a target is the same as healing the target for that same amount of damage 'had' he taken it'</font><font color="#ffcc00"></font>Now lets see some of these people scratch their heads and stare at it before it finally goes into there 'oh look its a parse' mentality. Yes - preventative or not, wards are healing and its a shame wards do not parse or that funny list would look a lot different.On a good raid I don't heal much either. After our huge debuffs and wards being up, there is nothing much to heal. Yes we are 'that' good. Now adding heals we actually had to bother to do to wards we put up and we have a healing parse.This sort of discussion doesnt mean a lot to me though - I am in one of the top raiding guilds on Lucan D'Lere and they know very well what 'healing' means and anyone that has sense takes wards as 'heals'... actually it seems to me most do on this server. Maybe this ignorance is centred on some other servers <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div><p>Message Edited by VizP on <span class="date_text">01-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:35 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote><p>lol i understand very well that wards are much more power efficent for us than heals and that a defilers doesnt heal much on a raid. but wards isnt going to stop an aoe, when people other than the MT taken dmg. wards isnt going to help them much. they need heals. Now unless youre a lazy shaman and refuse to heal people outside of your grp, you would know this. I fail to see why on fight like Jura'nata i can average about 25k healing, all while keeping wards up and debuff, and some defiler do 25k healing in an entire raid lol.</p><p>btw: im in the top raiding guild on Guk server ( putting up big foam #1 finger<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />). and we expect our shamans to not slacking and do some healing <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Dannin + Emanji = leetsauce shamans uhhhhhhh  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p><img src="http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6554/emanji015xy.jpg"></p><p>Message Edited by radical_EDWARD on <span class="date_text">01-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:04 AM</span></p>

[cyberlettu]

<div></div><div>Group ward will protect the entire group from aoe's and its pretty effective too! I would imagine a lot of defilers use it, i sure as hell do. Its especially good if a dps class suddenly pulls the aggro or for that matter aoe's.</div>

[VizP]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div>Quote: 'but wards isnt going to stop an aoe, when people other than the MT taken dmg. wards isnt going to help them much. they need heals.'----LOL <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Group wards are not going to help them 'that' much <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I would have thought you were being sarcastic except its clear you are not! And theres me going all the way to Venekor a few days ago with shamans spamming group wards and getting hardly any damage leaking through. Hmm... Carrion Aegis protecting at what 2700 over the group is it approx at Adept 3? Oh Hello.. Spiritual Circle.... cough ahem. *rolls his eyes*. 'Yes' the group ward will fall after taking the damage and we get damage on the group but compared to how much is constantly absorbed through wards, the healing required is nothing. Yes a group heal normally follows when this happens...May want to look up at Sostrows post again. If the raid is going 'perfectly' and a defiler is doing a job, there is no need for healing. Yes our wards are 'that' good especially since landed debuffs means a world of difference. Sadly nothing is perfect so some healing may be needed for damage leaking but honestly too too much neded there because we already are umbrella-outing the damage, a overwhelming proportion of it. So as for out healing furies.. erm... yes. But I really dont think its necessary to flex our healing muscles at each other just yet, just an appreciation of wards and group wards may be enough.Honestly Radical half the time I think you actually play a fury rather than a defiler but it seems you actually 'have' a defiler from your sig. Who would have thought <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><p>Message Edited by VizP on <span class="date_text">01-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:22 AM</span></p>

[radical_EDWARD]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>VizP wrote:<div></div><div></div><div></div>Quote: 'but wards isnt going to stop an aoe, when people other than the MT taken dmg. wards isnt going to help them much. they need heals.'----LOL <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Group wards are not going to help them 'that' much <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I would have thought you were being sarcastic except its clear you are not! And theres me going all the way to Venekor a few days ago with shamans spamming group wards and getting hardly any damage leaking through. Hmm... Carrion Aegis protecting at what 2700 over the group is it approx at Adept 3? Oh Hello.. Spiritual Circle.... cough ahem. *rolls his eyes*May want to look up at Sostrows post again. If the raid is going perfectly and a defiler is doing a job, there is no need for healing. Yes our wards are 'that' good especially since landed debuffs means a world of difference. Sadly nothing is perfect so some healing may be needed for damage leaking but honestly we dont need to heal because we already are umbrella-outing the damage, all of it. So as for out healing furies.. erm... yes. But I really dont think its necessary to flex our healing muscles at each other just yet, just an appreciation of wards and group wards may be enough.<p><span class="time_text"></span></p><p>Message Edited by VizP on <span class="date_text">01-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:18 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>rofl. i havent fight venekor in 3 months <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> my carrion aegis at master1 is only a 2.5k ward <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> yours must be super at adept3 <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> If you want to see some real aoe, go and take on barakah in pedestal of the sky, blackqueen in Court of Al'afaz, or Djinn Master <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> And grp ward isnt going to protect the people outside of my grp, you guys dont heal anybody else other than the people in your grp? Its easy to just focus on the MT and keep up wards and debuff, but thats not me<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> i guess thats what seperate the best from the rest <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><p>Message Edited by radical_EDWARD on <span class="date_text">01-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:33 AM</span></p>

[sostrows]

I let the druid or cleric or Paly handle grp heals but i do throw out a heal sometimes.<div></div>

[VizP]

<div></div><div></div>Radical - you can consider yourself the 'best' and some of us are the 'rest'.Truthfully though most of us simply 'know' how good we are from our rather volumous experience in the game and the effects of our healing on the group and the end results. As for the group ward number, give me a break on its exact figure, thats almost as bad as pointing out a typo. Perhaps your guild needs to improve its team tactics - I dont generally need to heal outside my group. Do you know why? Because when the guild raids, each group has its designated  healer(s) and they ensure I dont need to look outside my six. That is what a top guild does and that is what we do. We have our group covered.Organise a guild meeting and try and get more decent healers for your raids <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Stretching outside your group is a rather big sign heh...<p>Message Edited by VizP on <span class="date_text">01-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">01:54 PM</span></p>

[radical_EDWARD]

<blockquote><hr>VizP wrote:<div></div>Perhaps your guild needs to improve its team tactics - I dont generally need to heal outside my group. Do you know why? Because when the guild raids, each group has its designated  healer(s) and they ensure I dont need to look outside my six. That is what a top guild does and that is what we do. We have our group covered.Organise a guild meeting and try and get more decent healers for your raids <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Stretching outside your group is a rather big sign heh...<div></div><p>Message Edited by VizP on <span class="date_text">01-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">01:49 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>lol i think were pretty good at team work imo <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> consider we killed PPR with 5healers, Pedestal of the Sky with 7, and [Removed for Content] mobs like tree and terrorantula with like 3 <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[VizP]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div>Really? That sounds so impressive! Such a contrast to you needing to heal outside your group to others in your raid which doesnt sound very cohesive but then I am pretty sure one is not going to get any answers to this very strange conflict, the supposed 'debate' of fury vs defiler healing or anything else here.But still *I* am just so content with my healing abilities and methods, andmy classes abilities generally that I may as well end with a gesture:<span>:smileyvery-happy: <====Nothing like confidence huh <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />So yes er good luck with your uber guild and whatever it is you do so well. I honestly would care about your guild's achievements and yours but, well it seems I am so terribly arrogant - theres a frank admission... so I dont, no offence.. Im sure none will be taken! <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> And since you are clearly the same way on my opinions... well I guess we really are not going to get anywhere here. *tips his hat*</span><p>Message Edited by VizP on <span class="date_text">01-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:48 PM</span></p>

[Broomhilda]

<div></div><p>Therapy is a GOOD thing!  Remember that folks! </p><p>:smileyindifferent:</p>

[NimSul]

<div></div><p>I have beat venekor with 5 people using healing and wards. I have beat PPR not healing outside group.</p><p>AND my tail is BIGGER than your tail so there you have it :smileyvery-happy:</p><p>Edit cos i cant remember the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] difference between vox and venekor :smileysad:</p><p>Message Edited by NimSul on <span class="date_text">01-31-2006</span><span class="time_text">01:02 PM</span></p>

[radical_EDWARD]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>NimSul wrote:<div></div><p> I have beat PPR not healing outside group.</p><hr></blockquote><div>lol....... grats? on ...slacking? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div> </div>

[NimSul]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>radical_EDWARD wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>NimSul wrote:<div></div><p> I have beat PPR not healing outside group.</p><hr></blockquote><div>lol....... grats? on ...slacking? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div> </div><hr></blockquote><p>You missed the point /sigh:</p><p>MY TAIL IS BIGGER THEN YOURS !</p>

[radical_EDWARD]

<div><blockquote><hr>NimSul wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>radical_EDWARD wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>NimSul wrote:<div></div><p> I have beat PPR not healing outside group.</p><hr></blockquote><div>lol....... grats? on ...slacking? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div> </div><hr></blockquote><p>You missed the point /sigh:</p><p>MY TAIL IS BIGGER THEN YOURS !</p><hr></blockquote>but i have no tail <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />, a half elf here. May be youre talking about my necro. shes a ratonga and does indeed have a tail <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>