View Full Version : Defiler Interview for EQ2 Podcast
Rotacidare
12-19-2005, 08:42 PM
<DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Hello Defiler's! We have a weekly feature on the various classes for our podcast at <A href="http://www.eq2-daily.com/" target=_blank><FONT color=#c8c1b5>www.eq2-daily.com</FONT></A> . I am looking for some input from you all about your class to use in our discussion, in the form of this forum "interview." I'll post some questions for you all to answer, and then we'll talk about your thoughts. Please try to be somewhat brief in your answers, and please try to be objective. Thank you all.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>1. What do you like about your class?</DIV> <DIV> a.</DIV> <DIV> b.</DIV> <DIV> c.</DIV> <DIV>2. What do you not like?</DIV> <DIV> a.</DIV> <DIV> b.</DIV> <DIV> c.</DIV> <DIV>3. What kind of play style is best suited to your class?<BR>4. In general is it easy to find a group?</DIV> <DIV>5. How would you compare your class to your good/evil counterparts (Mystics's)?</DIV> <DIV>6. How do you feel your class does soloing? What is the highest lvl mob you can solo (i.e. yellow ^ or blue v)?</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
iciss19
12-19-2005, 10:51 PM
<DIV> <DIV>1. What do you like about your class?</DIV> <DIV> a. Powerful wards.</DIV> <DIV> b. Nice heals.</DIV> <DIV> c. Good buffs.</DIV> <DIV>2. What do you not like?</DIV> <DIV> a. Horrendous offense.</DIV> <DIV> b. Only one aoe. Since when grouped we're fighting multiple mobs the vast majority of the time this pretty much means that I ignore dot's and debuffs unless we're fighting a named or some other tough solo mob.</DIV> <DIV> c. Seem buggy and unfinished, at 37 my last several upgrades have either not made sense (Loathing upgrades Revulsion but is not more effective, only costs more mana...dot upgrade at 37, i think in fulginous line, does not seem to be much of an upgrade if at all from its predecessor, although I'll need to upgrade it to at least Adept 1 before I can say for sure) or had buggy or repetitive graphics (Tendrils of Fear has a graphic some people, including myself and my duo partner, cannot stand, to the point of not using the buff unless there is a third person to cast it on instead of one of us and /hide doesnt kill the graphic...Sinister Countenance is the same annoying fartcloud graphic that I will never have to look at thanks to /hide)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3. What kind of play style is best suited to your class? Support<BR>4. In general is it easy to find a group? Very</DIV> <DIV>5. How would you compare your class to your good/evil counterparts (Mystics's)? Think they actually have some AOEs which I'm jealous off if true, but I've honestly never grouped with one.</DIV> <DIV>6. How do you feel your class does soloing? What is the highest lvl mob you can solo (i.e. yellow ^ or blue v)?</DIV> <DIV>Easily yellow if not low orange, however it is very slow and not efficient. I only "solo" when i aggro something pretty much, this is a full on grouping character.</DIV></DIV> <p>Message Edited by iciss1969 on <span class=date_text>12-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:54 AM</span>
skidmark
12-20-2005, 04:13 AM
<div></div><div><div>1. What do you like about your class?</div><div> a. Wards.</div><div> b. Buffs.</div><div> c. Being relatively Rare.</div><div>2. What do you not like?</div><div> a. No DPS.</div><div> b. AOE, I second<span> iciss1969's</span><a href="../view_profile?user.id=220657" target="_blank"><span></span></a> point, although I didn't think we got any AOE spells except the AOE Fear.</div><div> c. Very few spell upgrades seem to drop. In my 25 levels, I have gotten 1 Adept I spell. That was Wailing Haze back at 11th level. I have spent the last 5 levels in Fallen Gate and Varsoons. Saw a lot of upgrades drop in Varsoon's, not one for a Defiler though.</div><div> </div><div>3. What kind of play style is best suited to your class? Support4. In general is it easy to find a group? Yes pretty much.</div><div>5. How would you compare your class to your good/evil counterparts (Mystics's)? Don't know much about them except their illusion is a bear form.</div><div>6. How do you feel your class does soloing? What is the highest lvl mob you can solo (i.e. yellow ^ or blue v)? Too slow. I don't bother with it, I have alts that I solo with. Although it would be nice to have the option.Thanks,Troy</div></div><p>Message Edited by skidmark on <span class="date_text">12-19-2005</span><span class="time_text">03:15 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by skidmark on <span class="date_text">12-19-2005</span><span class="time_text">03:16 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by skidmark on <span class=date_text>12-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:16 PM</span>
<div></div>1. What do you like about your class? <div> a. Group wards - in my opinion the best healer line - a huge ward 'bubble' that surrounds the entire group but wards the MT for the entire amount, what a wonderful spell! Shaman staple spell. b. Versatility - we can find groups at a snap of a finger but if we need to solo, we are more than able to do this very well. c. Class 'style' - this class oozes style.. just the whole idea of an evil shaman that corrupts and steals souls - I roleplay it to death and simply love the spells and gameplay behind the class. </div> <div> </div> <div>2. What do you not like?</div> <div> a. Lack of utility - for example wardens get escape, furies get group invis - our utility ends with a simple run spell which in a time of horses isn't exact group breaking. You get used to not having anything but also envious too when you notice others with it. b. Low DD spells - our damage comes from damage over time.. a number of spells like this but sometimes one gets envious when other classes nuke out something high - for example high fury nukes. Still it is good to know our DOT damage can add up to quite a bit. </div> <div> c. Lack of acknowledgement - defilers were considered weak for many months - post patch we are easily right up there as one of the best and most versatile healers.. but with so few of us, many do not realise our power. </div> <div>3. What kind of play style is best suited to your class? The class is definitely difficult to play because of the type of spells - wards, lots of proc spells, main heal being 'very' slow but healing for a huge amount etc. One must have good timing and judgement at all times - but once you get a hang for it, it is poetry in motion. 4. In general is it easy to find a group?</div> <div> Extremely easy - if I ever have to wait more than 10 mins with my lfg flag on, I may have passed into the twilight zone <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 5. How would you compare your class to your good/evil counterparts (Mystics's)? Mystics have less offence than us and have more defensive orientation as can be expected .. for example at 50 they get an emergency invulnerability type spell to protect their group while ours is an encounter leach spell that absorbs power and health and gives it to our group. As you can see, ours is offensive, theyrs is very defensive.. this theme continues. </div> <div>6. How do you feel your class does soloing? What is the highest lvl mob you can solo (i.e. yellow ^ or blue v)? Very well - already posted above - lvl 50 I can solo (with one target): Double up yellow heroics and everything lower Triple up blue heroics and everything lower (white triple ups simple have too much hp to survive). We get better and better as we lvl - for example late 50s we get a warding 'pet' that repeatedly wards the group. Imagine its power in soloing then.... </div> <div></div><p>Message Edited by VizP on <span class=date_text>12-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:33 PM</span>
Besual
12-20-2005, 06:46 PM
1. What do you like about your class? <blockquote>a) Our wards are good for all kinds of mobs: it doesn't matter if a mob hit hard but slow (bad for reactive heals, good for regen) or fast but for less damage (better for reactive heals then regen), our wards will block them all. This and the efficiency of our big direct heal makes us fine main healers in a group. b) With all the debuffs we have can play the supporter in a group as well. c) Of course it's much more fun to play a class you don't see every 3 steps. </blockquote> 2. What do you not like? <blockquote>a) We have no stuns / stiffle / root / mezz. For CC All we have are two very short fear spells (with a looooong recast timer) And with all the pathing issues you better skip the fear spells in dungeons. b) A little bit more AE power would be nice. I would like to see some kind of AE DD-spell. With a slightly favor of a point blank AE DD that can effect more then one group over an targeted AE DD only effecting one group of mobs. c) I think this is a more general EQ2 problem: the button smashing. Once I applied my debuffs / DD the first once already start to wear off. </blockquote> 3. What kind of play style is best suited to your class? <blockquote> <div align="left">A defiler is very versatile. We arn't a high DPS class making soloing slow but it's doable. We shine much more in small groups: Because we are good debuffers and good healers just add a tank (or a summoner) and you can start to rock. Add another healer to the group and we focus on the support role. And a "support" like a bard and we focus on healing for tougher mobs. Personaly I prefer the supporter role (may be because my ancestors on Norrath 500 years ago where shaman too <span>:smileywink:</span>) </div> </blockquote> <div align="left">4. In general is it easy to find a group? <blockquote>Well, either I dual box with my "pocket tank" (halfling berserker) or I join guild groups. That's why I wasn't LFG since a long time. But my guild mates ask me quite often to join them. </blockquote> 5. How would you compare your class to your good/evil counterparts (Mystics's)? <blockquote> <div align="left">I have to admit that I don't know much about mystic's. I know they have some AE debuffs / slow. And they have the famous torpor / avatar spells (famous for the ones who played EQ1). IMHO the effiency of our big heal combined with force cannibalisation makes the defilers a <u>little bit</u> better healer for long fights. </div> </blockquote> <div align="left">6. How do you feel your class does soloing? What is the highest lvl mob you can solo (i.e. yellow ^ or blue v)? <blockquote>We can solo but it's not fast. And for sure grouping will level you faster then solo all day long. As already posted I dual box when I'm not in a group. That's why I havn't pushed my limits soloing. </blockquote> PS: To keep the Defilers a rare class please write in your article "Defilers suck. They are completly broken and no fun to play." <span>:smileyhappy:</span> <blockquote> </blockquote> </div> </div> <blockquote> <div align="left"></div> </blockquote> <div></div>
BrickyardRac
12-20-2005, 09:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV><STRONG>1. What do you like about your class?</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> a. Wards</DIV> <DIV> b. Big single heal</DIV> <DIV> c. Good debuffs if a single target</DIV> <DIV><STRONG>2. What do you not like?</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> a. Limited AOE</DIV> <DIV> b. The graphic of the countenance - I always hide my illusion form if I have this spell up (and this spell is always up if I'm in combat)</DIV> <DIV> c. Some spell upgrades don't really seem an upgrade (I'm echoing a previous reply). I also just hit 37, and Loathing is the same exact spell, it just costs more power than it's predecessor (Revulsion, I think). The next Fulginous spell (Coil, I think), is a downgrade from the Sphere (though my Sphere version was a Master 2 choice, and I am comparing it to the Adept 1 version of the Coil, which is the best version I can find in-game).</DIV> <DIV><STRONG>3. What kind of play style is best suited to your class?</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> Support<BR><STRONG>4. In general is it easy to find a group?</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> Yes. I even am starting to get blind invites as I get a bit higher in levels, which is something I remember getting tons of my first go around with the game (from Launch until mid January 2005 as a defiler - came back late Sept/early Oct this year, different server, so new character). I went AFK for about an hour this past Saturday, and I came back to group invites on my screen. Not even a /tell beforehand (which would have told them I was AFK).</DIV> <DIV><STRONG>5. How would you compare your class to your good/evil counterparts (Mystics's)?</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> No real idea, to be honest. I've only grouped with a Mystic once, and my wards were all adept 3's vs her adept 1's, so I did all the warding. It was a very good group, so not much spread aggro at all, so direct healing wasn't needed. I *think* they offer more AOE stuff, but not really sure what they do.</DIV> <DIV><STRONG>6. How do you feel your class does soloing? What is the highest lvl mob you can solo (i.e. yellow ^ or blue v)?</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> I only solo if I'm questing, so that rarely involves fighting more than yellow solo mobs. If a quest calls for heroics, I either wait until they're gray (if it's a quest that the mobs are abundant and an unimportant quest), delete the quest (if the mobs are not abundant and it's an unimportant quest), or get a group (if it's an important quest). I did just spend a few days in Zek, solo questing (football all weekend, so I soloed while half paying attention to EQ2 and half watching the TV), and I really enjoyed those quests. But none were too hard (green to yellow solo mobs, depending on my level). Soloing isn't my first choice, so I don't really know what the highest level mob would be that I could take, but whatever it is, it would be a VERY long fight, and probably not worth doing.</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
sostrows
12-20-2005, 10:47 PM
<DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff>1. What do you like about your class?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff> </FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> a. Debuffing (please make us the best single target debuffer in game ! 8-) Now thats class distinction!. More reactive debuffs like Tendrils of Fear also. Takes for more mana/time to debuff than buff so debuffers should get more "reactive" debuffs. </FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff> b. Wards</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff> c. Utility</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff>2. What do you not like?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff> a. Loss of Purulence pets in Revamp</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff> b. No Prismatic spear</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> (have to keep using mace or clubs)</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff> c. No pet. Had a pet in EQOA as a shaman. (I dont count Spiritual Circle a "pet" as I cant make it do things).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff> d. Fear spell that pulls other mobs. Would like to see our single target fear spell not agro other mob grps. Then it would at least give us a CC feature we could use.<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff>3. What kind of play style is best suited to your class?</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> </FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> Raid debuffer, Group main or secondary priest, dualing or trioing is alot of fun too.</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT><FONT color=#ffffff>4. In general is it easy to find a group?</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> </FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> Very</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff>5. How would you compare your class to your good/evil counterparts (Mystics's)?</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> Pretty close, the differences really start to appear more from level 47+. I like being more evil and debuffing than a buffer. If I had wanted a buffer, I would have rolled a Mystic.</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff>6. How do you feel your class does soloing? What is the highest lvl mob you can solo (i.e. yellow ^ or blue v)?</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> </FONT><FONT color=#66ff00><FONT color=#ffffff> Yellow^ solo ok with Treasured and Adept1 possible. Ora<FONT color=#ffffff>nge</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#ffffff>^ solo not really possible unless maybe you were Fabled/Master1. Can kill a heroic mob ^^^ at blue with Legendary/Adept3.</FONT></FONT><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV> <P>Defiler is a very versitile class that can solo for quests, small group tank, full grp heal/support and on a raid rocks. <P>We are experimenting with the Mystic-Defiler combo in a MT grp on a raid and having great success with it now that most everything stacks. It's a fun class and I have never gotten bored playing it.</P> <P>Message Edited by sostrows on <SPAN class=date_text>12-20-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>11:24 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by sostrows on <span class=date_text>12-20-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:26 AM</span>
Eileithia
12-21-2005, 12:49 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> sostrows wrote:<BR> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff>1. What do you like about your class?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff> </FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> a. Debuffing (please make us the best single target debuffer in game ! 8-) Now thats class distinction!. More reactive debuffs like Tendrils of Fear also. Takes for more mana/time to debuff than buff so debuffers should get more "reactive" debuffs. </FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff> b. Wards</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff> c. Utility</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff>2. What do you not like?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff> a. Loss of Purulence pets in Revamp</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff> b. No Prismatic spear</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> (have to keep using mace or clubs)</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff> c. No pet. Had a pet in EQOA as a shaman. (I dont count Spiritual Circle a "pet" as I cant make it do things).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff> d. Fear spell that pulls other mobs. Would like to see our single target fear spell not agro other mob grps. Then it would at least give us a CC feature we could use.<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff>3. What kind of play style is best suited to your class?</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> </FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> Raid debuffer, Group main or secondary priest, dualing or trioing is alot of fun too.</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT><FONT color=#ffffff>4. In general is it easy to find a group?</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> </FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> Very</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff>5. How would you compare your class to your good/evil counterparts (Mystics's)?</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> Pretty close, the differences really start to appear more from level 47+. I like being more evil and debuffing than a buffer. If I had wanted a buffer, I would have rolled a Mystic.</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff>6. How do you feel your class does soloing? What is the highest lvl mob you can solo (i.e. yellow ^ or blue v)?</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff><BR></FONT><FONT color=#ffffff> </FONT><FONT color=#66ff00><FONT color=#ffffff> Yellow^ solo ok with Treasured and Adept1 possible. Ora<FONT color=#ffffff>nge</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#ffffff>^ solo not really possible unless maybe you were Fabled/Master1. Can kill a heroic mob ^^^ at blue with Legendary/Adept3.</FONT></FONT><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV> <P>Defiler is a very versitile class that can solo for quests, small group tank, full grp heal/support and on a raid rocks. <P>We are experimenting with the Mystic-Defiler combo in a MT grp on a raid and having great success with it now that most everything stacks. It's a fun class and I have never gotten bored playing it.</P> <P>Message Edited by sostrows on <SPAN class=date_text>12-20-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>11:24 AM</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by sostrows on <SPAN class=date_text>12-20-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>11:26 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Sorry if this is off topic, but Sos, I've never had my single target fear pull other mobs back with it.. I use it for CC all the time, and have it at Master1 just for that reason.. If anyone else has seen this pull other mobs I'd be interested to know, as this has never happened to me in the past?!?
Eileithia
12-21-2005, 12:53 AM
<P>Sorry.. Double post</P> <P>Message Edited by Duntzzzz on <SPAN class=date_text>12-20-2005</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>12:01 PM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Duntzzzz on <span class=date_text>12-20-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:01 PM</span>
Eileithia
12-21-2005, 12:53 AM
<DIV> <DIV>Back on Topic</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1. What do you like about your class?</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cc0000> a. Amazing debuffs, and best HP buffs.. always room for a Defiler in the MT group on a raid</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cc0000> b. Wards are the shizzle</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cc0000> c. There are very few of us, and I like showing off what we're capable of to the "un-educated" ones</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2. What do you not like?</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cc0000> a. More AE Debuffs would be nice..</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cc0000> b. One more heal on a seperate timer, even if it's for a couple 100 HP</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cc0000> c. Our DPS is pretty slack, and makes soloing almost painfull.. very doable, but painfull.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3. What kind of play style is best suited to your class? </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cc0000> Support (Main Healer / Debuffer)<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV>4. In general is it easy to find a group?</DIV> <DIV> <FONT color=#cc0000>I will often get random invites to groups and raids without my LFG tag up.. so yes.. very easy</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cc0000></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>5. How would you compare your class to your good/evil counterparts (Mystics's)?</DIV> <DIV> <FONT color=#cc0000> We are better suited for the MT group in the raid, where I feel Mystics are better for the melee group (Mainly because of Avatar vs. Portent) They are much stronger in AE fights, where we own single target just based on our debuffs / timers.. we also have much larger heals, although they are on slower timers. We actually compliment eachother very well, and there are situations where one is definatly better than the other depending on group makeup etc. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>6. How do you feel your class does soloing? What is the highest lvl mob you can solo (i.e. yellow ^ or blue v)?</DIV></DIV> <DIV> <FONT color=#cc0000>Soling .. Can do White ^^^ and lower.. although it's a VERY long fight, and not worth the time spent.. Yellow ^ and ^^ not much of an issue, but again.. longer fights due to fairly poor DPS. I group 99% of my time on my Defiler, and I'm one of the main healers we have for raids. We own as healers now, and I feel we are probably one of the best healing classes now because of LU13 and the multiple fixes to wards, and other utilities we have.. We can rival any Templar in a solo healing environement, and work quite well together when 2 healers are called for..</FONT></DIV><p>Message Edited by Duntzzzz on <span class=date_text>12-20-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:01 PM</span>
sostrows
12-21-2005, 02:16 AM
I'm gonna have to go test my fear tonight. Havent used in so long. <div></div>
ShilienOrac
12-21-2005, 06:49 PM
<div></div><div> <div><b>1. What do you like about your class? </b> <b>a.</b> Many available play styles.<b> </b></div> <div> <b>b.</b> Debuffs. All our offensive spells have a debuff component, pretty cool. </div> <div> <b>c.</b> Wards and more specifically, ward stacking: being able to stop more than 4k damage at once is really impressive. </div> <div><b>2. What do you not like?</b> </div> <div> <b>a.</b> Not enough AE debuffs. Besides our lvl 50 spell, we only have one AE DoT that debuffs noxious resists. I wish we had an AE spell that decreases mob output damage like an AE slow and/or an AE stat debuff. </div> <div> <b>b.</b> No mean to deal efficiently with heavy AoE damage. Group wards are a joke when it comes to deal with heavy AoE in raid and our direct group heal spell don't help very much. </div> <div> <b>c.</b> Look and feel. I hate the wraith form and I don't find the spell animations and effects very "defilerish". </div> <div><b>3. What kind of play style is best suited to your class?</b> There are many play styles available to our class. We are very slow but strong soloers. We do great in groups and small groups and we shine in raids. We can either be a MT buffer, a main healer or debuffer and perform very well. Personnally I prefer the debuffer role. I try to cast the less wards and heals I can while lowering the mob output damage with my debuffs. <b>4. In general is it easy to find a group?</b> It has been a long time since I was LFG. I mostly group with guildies. I do sometimes get tells for grouping however. </div> <div><b>5. How would you compare your class to your good/evil counterparts (Mystics's)?</b> I think Defilers and Mystics are both well balanced. As far as I know, Mystics have more buffs and less single target debuffs. Sure, we envy their AE debuff, but I'm sure they also envy some of our spells. </div> <div><b>6. How do you feel your class does soloing? What is the highest lvl mob you can solo (i.e. yellow ^ or blue v)? </b>I gave up soloing. I think we are pretty strong soloer, able to defeat yellow ^ to blue ^^^ but it's far too slow. I prefer groups or small groups. If I want to solo, I play an alt.<b> </b></div></div> <div></div><p>Message Edited by ShilienOracle on <span class=date_text>12-21-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:54 AM</span>
NimSul
12-22-2005, 03:34 AM
<DIV> <DIV> <DIV>1. What do you like about your class?</DIV> <DIV> a. Major debuffs, not just spamming the odd heal now and again.</DIV> <DIV> b. Class defining spells like forced cannibalize and spiritual circle giving us a more unike feel</DIV> <DIV> c. Being a fairly rare class</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2. What do you not like?</DIV> <DIV> a. Wards blocking reactive style procs like "hold the line"</DIV> <DIV> b. Being pretty much purely disease based making half our spells useless vs half the games raid mobs</DIV> <DIV> c. The slow pain it is to do solo quests with so little damage we have</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3. What kind of play style is best suited to your class?</DIV> <DIV> Grouping/raiding to beat tough high level mobs as the pure healer in groups or powerfull debuffer/healer in raids<BR></DIV> <DIV>4. In general is it easy to find a group? </DIV> <DIV> Always group within guild and can get a group for anything</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>5. How would you compare your class to your good/evil counterparts (Mystics's)?</DIV> <DIV> As one that rarely ever group witha mystic and only know their abilitys thru raiding i would say we are about on par with eachothers abilitys</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>6. How do you feel your class does soloing? What is the highest lvl mob you can solo (i.e. yellow ^ or blue v)?</DIV> <DIV> Generally we solo fairly good, can solo every ^ mob ive encountered, cant recall any yellows or oranges tho. Have soloed a full heroic encounter of lvl 54 (full as in 1 ^^^ or 2 ^^ ) but never really tried anything bigger because its soo [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] slow to do and havnt had a reason to do it. Defiler soloing i would describe as very slow but also very risk free compared to other classes, with the ability to beat mobs in tight space but not high lvl heroic mobs.</DIV></DIV></DIV>
Feanor Baugl
12-22-2005, 12:36 PM
<div> <div><font color="#ffffff">1. What do you like about your class?</font></div> <div><font color="#ffffff"> </font><i><font color="#ffffff"> </font></i><font color="#ffffff">a. </font><i><font color="#ffffff">Wards</font></i></div> <div><i><font color="#ffffff"> </font></i><font color="#ffffff">b</font><i><font color="#ffffff">. </font><font color="#ffffff">Debuffing</font></i></div> <div><i><font color="#ffffff"> </font></i><font color="#ffffff">c. </font><i><font color="#ffffff">Utility </font></i><font color="#ffffff"></font></div> <div><font color="#ffffff">2. What do you not like?</font></div> <div><font color="#ffffff"> a. <i>The dps, I don't have any other toon then my Defiler so I don't really have anything to compare it to, but an increase in dps would better my solo ability. </i>b. </font><font color="#ffffff"><i>No pet, I'm only lvl 53 so I haven't got Spiritual Circle yet but as I've understood it its not a "pet" in normal terms. So it would be fun to get one earlier. </i>c. </font><font color="#ffffff"><i>Our bugged Group ward line, if they fixed it so it worked again I'd be happy.</i></font><font color="#ffffff"><i></i></font></div> <div><font color="#ffffff">3. What kind of play style is best suited to your class?</font><font color="#ffffff"></font><font color="#ffffff"> </font><font color="#ffffff"> <i>Raid debuffer, any type of healer position</i> </font><font color="#ffffff"></font><font color="#ffffff">4. In general is it easy to find a group?</font><font color="#ffffff"></font><font color="#ffffff"> </font><font color="#ffffff"> <i> I had problems before the revamp when I was in the mid 30, but as I got near lvl 50 and past it it's been easy. People useally contact me after I've grouped with them asking if I want the help their group. And that' s nice since it means I do a good job as a healer.</i></font><font color="#ffffff"></font></div> <div><font color="#ffffff">5. How would you compare your class to your good/evil counterparts (Mystics's)?</font><font color="#ffffff"></font><font color="#ffffff"> <i> Can't really compare it since I haven't tried a Mystic, but from what I've expereinced grouping with Mystics is that we are rather equal.</i></font><font color="#ffffff"></font></div> <div><font color="#ffffff">6. How do you feel your class does soloing? What is the highest lvl mob you can solo (i.e. yellow ^ or blue v)?</font><font color="#ffffff"></font><font color="#ffffff"> </font><font color="#66ff00"><font color="#ffffff"> </font><i><font color="#ffffff"> </font></i></font><i><font color="#66ff00"><font color="#ffffff">Haven't really tested my limit</font></font><font color="#66ff00"><font color="#ffffff"> but I know I can kill a green heroic mob ^^^, blue heroic mob ^^ to name a few.</font></font></i></div></div> <p> </p><div></div>
Sokolov
12-22-2005, 09:26 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>NimSul wrote:<div> <div> <div> 2. What do you not like?</div> <div> a. Wards blocking reactive style procs like "hold the line"</div> </div></div><hr></blockquote>Reactive procs do proc thru wards.</span><div></div>
Rotacidare
12-23-2005, 12:41 AM
Thanks all for your great feedback. I'm still here lurking and reading :smileywink:. Due to technical issues this podcast may be postponed till after Christmas, so feel free to post if you like, I'll let you know when it's been recorded.
Eileithia
12-23-2005, 12:52 AM
<P> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sokolov wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> NimSul wrote:<BR> <DIV> <DIV><BR> <DIV> 2. What do you not like?</DIV> <DIV> a. Wards blocking reactive style procs like "hold the line"</DIV><BR></DIV></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Reactive procs do proc thru wards.<BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>You are correct.. and the reason this happens is because when you are hit with a ward on, you are "Hit" for 0 points of damage.. this is the reason Reactives, and any proc effects will work through a ward..</P> <P>"Target is struck for 1000pts Damage"<BR>"Your ward has absorbed 1000pts Damage"<BR><STRONG>"You are hit for 0pts Damage"</STRONG></P> <P>(Something like that anyways)</P>
sostrows
12-23-2005, 05:14 AM
I had a mob agro after a fear'd mob passed by it today in POF. <div></div>
Sokolov
12-23-2005, 06:38 AM
Weird, Sostraws, in all my time of using fear I've never had that happen. <div></div>
ShilienOrac
12-23-2005, 03:13 PM
<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>Duntzzzz wrote:<p>You are correct.. and the reason this happens is because when you are hit with a ward on, you are "Hit" for 0 points of damage.. this is the reason Reactives, and any proc effects will work through a ward..</p> <p>"Target is struck for 1000pts Damage""Your ward has absorbed 1000pts Damage"<strong>"You are hit for 0pts Damage"</strong></p> <p>(Something like that anyways)</p><hr></blockquote></span> There are two kind of reactive proc: - proc when target is hit - proc when target takes damage First one will proc through wards, second one will not. On a side note, Tendrils of fear belongs to the second category <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div><p>Message Edited by ShilienOracle on <span class=date_text>12-23-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:24 AM</span>
Rebamar
12-23-2005, 07:10 PM
<DIV> <P><SPAN><BR></SPAN></P><IMG height=1 alt="" src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/p.gif" width=1 border=0><BR> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>1. What do you like about your class?</DIV> <DIV> a. Nice Increase in Healing ability</DIV> <DIV> b.Awesome MT group buffs</DIV> <DIV> c. Ability to be able to create power out of nothing</DIV> <DIV>2. What do you not like?</DIV> <DIV> a. Only one AE dot</DIV> <DIV> b. Our ward pet? isnt a pet at all lol</DIV> <DIV> c. Our poison dots/debuffs are pretty weak</DIV> <DIV>3. What kind of play style is best suited to your class? I hate soloing on this char-pretty much have to rely on HO's to do damage-not that I solo much anyways<BR>4. In general is it easy to find a group? I didnt have trouble at all when I was trying to level up finding a group, especially now that they fixed our class after a year</DIV> <DIV>5. How would you compare your class to your good/evil counterparts (Mystics's)? Mystics also have a lot of good buffs, but defilers do have better buffs for the MT group, it used to be the reverse before the expansion came around. I am usually put in the MT group, not only because my Portent buff is master1 and most of my other buffs, but you cant put defilers and mystics in the same group anymore due to their buffs conflicting.</DIV> <DIV>6. How do you feel your class does soloing? What is the highest lvl mob you can solo (i.e. yellow ^ or blue v)? I can solo green triple ups, but it takes a long time. Soloing is not very effective for our class at all.</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
Eileithia
12-23-2005, 07:55 PM
I'm almost 100% positive, I've seen Tendrils Proc while warded. i'll test it tonight to be sure, but It goes off like crazy when I have it on our MT in just normal XP groups, and he's warded most of the fight.
NimSul
12-24-2005, 08:18 PM
<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ShilienOracle wrote:<BR> <SPAN><BR></SPAN><BR>There are two kind of reactive proc:<BR>- proc when target is hit<BR>- proc when target takes damage<BR><BR>First one will proc through wards, second one will not.<BR><BR><BR><FONT color=#ff0000>On a side note, Tendrils of fear belongs to the second category <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT><BR> <P>Message Edited by ShilienOracle on <SPAN class=date_text>12-23-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>02:24 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>And sadly hold the line kinda spells too that guardians rely on for ae aggro control, if we fight huge encounters of mobs making small hits i can almost make our mt loose aggro every time by going all out on wards :smileyvery-happy:</DIV>
Rotacidare
12-29-2005, 10:02 PM
<P>Thanks all for the comments, a lot of good stuff here. This podcast is finally live, so if you'd like to hear what we say about Defilers here you go:</P> <P>Show 14 Notes:<BR><A href="http://www.eq2daily.com/blog/show-14-collecting-tales-of-the-silent-city-of-an-eq2-podcast-12272005" target=_blank><FONT color=#c8c1b5>http://www.eq2daily.com/blog/show-14-collecting-tales-of-the-silent-city-of-an-eq2-podcast-12272005</FONT></A><BR><BR>For an MP3 of the show:<BR><A href="http://www.eq2daily.com/podcasts/show14.mp3" target=_blank><FONT color=#c8c1b5>http://www.eq2daily.com/podcasts/show14.mp3</FONT></A><BR><BR>For iTunes Users:<BR><A href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=79501284&s=143441" target=_blank><FONT color=#c8c1b5>http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=79501284&s=143441</FONT></A><BR><BR>Odeo Users:<BR><A href="http://odeo.com/listen/subscribe?feed=http://www.eq2-daily.com/podcastfeed.xml" target=_blank><FONT color=#c8c1b5>http://odeo.com/listen/subscribe?feed=http://www.eq2-daily.com/podcastfeed.xml</FONT><BR></A></P> <P>And if you have comments feel free to post on our follow up thread on our forums:</P> <P><A href="http://www.eq2daily.com/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=379" target=_blank>http://www.eq2daily.com/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=379</A></P>
iciss19
12-29-2005, 11:19 PM
FYI the defiler portion is the last segment of the show, starts about 1hr 5minutes into the podcast.
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