L47-60 defiler masters...?

[Turb]

Starting to look at these as I approach that level range.Which should I focus on getting, or should I spend on Adept III for all the key spells first?It looks to me like the following spells are the more important, as they are healing and buff oriented:Ghastly ShroudMaelstrom of DismayForced CannibaliseBane of GuardingCalamitous ShroudVoice of the AncestorsCarrion AegisPutrid BalmMalevolent EffluxSpiritual CircleRapacityScarificial DeliveranceAny specific ordering on the real defining spells?The snag is pricing. On my server some of these are like 15 plat. I have seen Carrion Aegis and Forced Cannibalise as low as 5-6plat, but that still seems a lot <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> For 5-6 plat I could probably get 4 Adept IIIs...Thanks for any comments.

[Eileithia]

<P>Master heals and wards are da bomb.. Forced cannibalize would be nice too if you can afford it.. every bit of regen helps..</P> <P>Really.. get as many masters as you can resonably afford, but get the Heals / Wards first (Including Spiritual Circle). Then Adept 3 the rest unless you're rolling in coin.</P> <P>Also, don't be afraid to bargain with the people selling the spells.. I've talked a lot of people on the broker down from 15 to 6.</P> <P> </P>

[sostrows]

<div></div>on Highkeep as adept3 might cost 2pp, master 3-6pp. some masters seem to drop more, keep an eye out on your market.  I made all my spells A3 before increased M1 rate and since then have gotten Infestation & Fulg Coil.  Trying to get a guy to cough up Invective for 2.5pp. Doing the A1 + save for M1 strategy = 4gp + time to get coin + 4pp = 4.04pp but delays/weak spells/constantly trolling markets Doing the A3 + buy M1 later = time to get coin/rare + 2pp + 4pp = 6pp per spell Harvesting rares, sell rares, buy M1 = time to harvest + 2 rares = time/delays per spell I have gotten about 1 rare per hour in the past on orc highway in SS and at lvl 60, all the mobs are non-agro which is nice. Some combination of that works well.  Helps to have a Sage friend too. <div></div><p>Message Edited by sostrows on <span class=date_text>12-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:06 AM</span>

[VizP]

Just got my first Master post 50 - Fulg Tendril (our main single target DOT - lvl 51) fot 1.75 pp... guy was selling it to me for 2pp but on realising he'd be clearing me out sold it for less <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Ill be looking to sell him conjuror masters when i grab them for a cheap price.. good agreement <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Still the fulg line is one of my faves.. we may be healers but we can solo well and of course throwing some damage into a fight is jsut goign to benefit anyway, esp a master DOT :p <div></div>

[Eileithia]

<DIV>hehe.. Don't forget the slow on that dot as well =D nice spell, Gratz</DIV>

[VizP]

Ahh yes of course .. hehe god I love that spell <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> For me its probably the most used spell at any time.. I 'always' have it cast non stop in every situation.. by the time its fading, my fingers back on the hotkey. In groups there is always power for Fulg slow/dps to add to the mix and of course in soloing.. mm <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Thanks though hehe.. good start with masters, I just hope it continues <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[VizP]

And it did.. Putrid Balm Master dropped in Hidden Cache the first time I grouped after a huge absence.. guess its a sign I should more <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[cggerth]

<DIV>I'm a 60 defiler on AB, and with my server there are quite a few masters to choose from b/c of the population.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>All my spells are either master or adept 3 quality and while I was gettign the rares and masters I went in this order</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>top priority </DIV> <DIV>wards</DIV> <DIV>heals</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I got my 2 main wards and my 3 main heals to adept 3 as fast as possible.  Wards are who the defiler class is without them we can't do much.  (add in our warding pet also)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2nd priority</DIV> <DIV>group buffs</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Any buff that increased mitigation or health/power</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3rd priority</DIV> <DIV>Debuffs/Procs</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I upgraded my debuffs and procs after the buffs and wards/heals as I tended to use them less then the others (trust me I still use them all the time, but I use the other groups more)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>4th priortiy</DIV> <DIV>Everything else</DIV>

[JLun]

<P>It really comes down to who you group with.  For me I have a SK, Ranger, 2 Assasins and myself to always group with.  So alot of my stuff revolves are the wards and buffs.  So far I have Master 1 in both Single and Group Wards, my DD, Master 2 of my Degenerate.  Most of my other main spells are Adept 3 which are my heals and most buffs.</P> <P>Seeing what you have overall helps..  I usually solo heal alot of things due to the high DPS.  But with the stealth changes I've recently have had a hard time solo healing Poet's Palace with 60SK, Ranger, 2 Assasins, and 54 Conj.  [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] Keeper put a smack down on us out of no where while we rolled everything in the zone.</P> <P>Master rate has increased alot.  But what I would suggest is doing the instances and have your guildies keep good eyes out on then and ask if they can try to snatch it up on the spot anything and everything for 2pp.  Usually what I try for.  I only know of 3 maybe 4 other Defiler mains on my server: Guk.  And one of them is on the high end raiding guild so he has ALOT of money to spare.</P>

[Rebamar]

<DIV>im up to 16 masters now that are 47+...and i only bought about 4 of them. Most of them have dropped from instances and raid zones, and my guildies are the best and help me out <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. Our masters are a lot more common now, just keep your fingers crossed <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>