It was awful...or I was awful

[Purcupile]

<DIV>Went into Freethinkers in LP the other night.  I was in MT group in part of a full raid.  I died 26 times, as many as 5 times during 1 pull.  Has something changed...or am I just a lost soul in this zone?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Purcupile</DIV>

[thedu]

Not sure. I remember reading a thread that said the (not sure which you were fighting) but that there two versions of the mob that drops the vases.  One is hard and the other is extremely hard.  It could be you guys encountered the extremely hard version.  The other issue I'm personally having is gearing up because you need a mininum 5k to all resists now to really deal effectively with the low level Epic zones in EoF and you need a mininum 8k for the high end zones.<div></div>

[Kaeth]

<P>Aye, there can be a bugged version of The Shredder and a completly doable one.  </P> <P>But what was your group setup? Did the tank have many resists on taunts on pull? All things that determine whether you get whacked because of pre-warding or the Runic Aegis perma-ward.</P> <P>On taunts, tanks need to have max spell casting skills to get less resist or +gear. (Don't know the exact skill name) Also, as I understood, there will be a new tank skill called "Agression"  or similar that will decrease resists. Pls correct me if I am wrong.</P> <P>Anyways, keep trying FT, you'll the hang of it sooner or later.</P> <P> </P>

[Banditman]

Zylphax is, I believe, still bugged . . . or rather, he is re-bugged.There was a patch that went in some time ago that corrected a bug in his script.  Immediately after that correction, we went in and killed him.  It was difficult, but once we got the positioning and joust correct, we dropped him.Armed with that knowledge and a successful pull of him, we went back in last weekend.And got owned.  Repeatedly.Now, one thing you all do need to be aware of on this mob.  Poison resist is useless.  Yep.  100% useless.  The AE is not mitigateable.  It will hit you for the same amount regardless of whether you have 10k Poison mitigation or 1k Poison mitigation.  The only defense is to get over 8k HP and target yourself with an immediate single target cure when the fear portion wears off.  Anything else is death, INCLUDING trying to cure with your group cure.<div></div>

[ecoskii]

use your grp cure... it is all in the t..t...ttt..ttt.tt..timing

[Banditman]

Pretty (*&# hard to use a group cure when FEARED.<div></div>

[Eepop]

I dunno bandit, I went in and we gave him about 10 tries. I noticed when I pushed my resists up I was getting summoned alot less.  When I did get summoned, you're right, the damage was pretty much just lethal. Maybe it was just chance, I dunno.  I just wouldnt write off resists just yet. <div></div>

[thedu]

Here is a funny strategy idea<a href="http://eq2.raidmobs.com/strats.php?strategy_id=40" target=_blank>http://eq2.raidmobs.com/strats.php?strategy_id=40</a><div></div>

[Banditman]

I have it from an <b><font color="#ff0000">un-assailable source</font></b> that Stench of Death is unresistable and unmitigateable.I asked the question when faced with this from our first attempt at the mob:(1163733871)[Thu Nov 16 22:24:31 2006] Tiven is hit by Stench of Death for 4205 poison damage.(1163733871)[Thu Nov 16 22:24:31 2006] Ashaine is hit by Stench of Death for 4205 poison damage.(1163733871)[Thu Nov 16 22:24:31 2006] YOU are hit by Stench of Death for 4205 poison damage.(1163733871)[Thu Nov 16 22:24:31 2006] Blackoath is hit by Stench of Death for 4205 poison damage.(1163733871)[Thu Nov 16 22:24:31 2006] Muffoie is hit by Stench of Death for 4205 poison damage.(1163733871)[Thu Nov 16 22:24:31 2006] Dren is hit by Stench of Death for 4205 poison damage.(1163733871)[Thu Nov 16 22:24:31 2006] Ajenia is hit by Stench of Death for 4205 poison damage.(1163733871)[Thu Nov 16 22:24:31 2006] Katrina is hit by Stench of Death for 4205 poison damage.Feel free to check your logs to see if anyone resisted it.The whole summoning thing is horribly bugged.  Hopefully it will be acknowledged and fixed soonish.<div></div>

[Darkstu]

I would have to agree with Banditman and say his AE is unmitigateable.  When he drops his vase the summonings are totally random from all the times we have fought him.  I usually have enough time to cure myself after the fear wears off.  Prophetic Aegis/Group ward coupled with Ebbing Spirit is usually enough for me to keep my group up during the fight.

[Kaeth]

Yep AE is not mitigable. As for grp cure...only when you are not hit yourself. If do you do get feared yourself st cure! Btw you can avoid the AE :smileywink:

[Brizlyn]

<P>I am not sure what's up with the shredder but something is funky, I agree.</P> <P>We owned him a few times then that fix went in, cause of course he was bugged porting the same person over and over.</P> <P>NOW he ports like 3-5 HEALERS almost exclusively every time, which of course ends in a wipe.  What is strange is, we have a fury that has never been ported a single time yet.   Some of the non healers have been ported here and there, but its pretty much the same 4 or so healers every single time, over and over.</P> <P>Tried having them change a myriad of things so far, but doesn't seem to alter the result much.</P> <P>Almost like the encounter builds a static list that never gets reset, any guess is as good as mine though.</P> <P> </P>