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Aleks
11-17-2006, 01:55 PM
<DIV>The new expansion stuck the fork in mystics. so many problems, I dont feel like listing them here. Sure you want one for raiding, but the most ridiculously terrible aa's I've ever seen, and the complete wipeout of all our mit and resists makes our class obsolete. I know there is not many of us, but what sony did is wrong. This expansion's aa's prove they have absolutely no idea what to do with us. how about instead of a rez line they give us a ward line. how about instead of crappy cure ward line they give us a debuff line. It's pathetic!</DIV>

Thunderthyze
11-17-2006, 05:14 PM
<P>If you read any of the class discussion forums you will find two predominant voices of opinion:</P> <P>1) I'm a healer (for example) why give me more heals in my AA's....I want dps to make up for my lack of solo ability</P> <P>2) Why give me dps mods in my AA's.....I'm a healer!</P> <P>In other words you will NEVER appease all the players. I think the new AA's are "interesting" and look forward to developing a tactic to use them to their best effect. </P> <P>If there was only one correct way to play this game it would get boring pretty [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] quickly!</P> <P> </P>

Thatdumbg
11-17-2006, 06:21 PM
    You can keep the DPS line all the hell you want, and even the buff line... just get rid of our craptastic cure and rez lines.<div></div>

Banditman
11-17-2006, 06:49 PM
The Mystic I play today is no better off, no worse off than the one I played last week who was capable of being the top healer on the raid every night.I fail to see how the release of EoF changed any of that.Yes, our AA's are not much to be excited about, but quite honestly the class hasn't changed.<div></div>

Sillililygirl
11-17-2006, 09:27 PM
I think the mystic AA line could be interesting and fun. The rez line is quite useful looking.  And I don't see how anything is different for mystics after EoF.  Personally I like the prophecy enchance in the AA line too. I just got my upgrade for it at level 58 and it's adept 3 so I got a MAJOR hp/power upgrade.  But, maybe that's just me cause I was so happy to get more AP's and level for the first time in months. :p<div></div>

Terq
11-17-2006, 10:20 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sillililygirl wrote:<BR>I think the mystic AA line could be interesting and fun. The rez line is quite useful looking.  <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Well, let the rest of us know about the rez line, b/c you are the only Mystic that I have seen get excited over that one.  </P> <P><BR></P>

Banditman
11-18-2006, 01:35 AM
There is only one way to look at a rez:You failed.If you do your job properly, you'll never cast a rez.<div></div>

thedu
11-18-2006, 01:49 AM
<div><blockquote><hr>Banditman wrote:There is only one way to look at a rez:You failed.If you do your job properly, you'll never cast a rez.<div></div><hr></blockquote>/giggleI'm such a failure...<span>:smileytongue:</span></div>

Banditman
11-18-2006, 03:42 AM
Oh, me too.  I've had lots of people die on me.However, if we had been given some HEALING AA's instead of REZ AA's perhaps that problem would work itself out.<div></div>

Crond
11-18-2006, 04:16 AM
<P>defilers get boosts to their wards...we get.......drumroll please......a better line of rezes.... </P> <P>I can hear it now..."Quick...call the mystic, so we can get rezzed faster!" (actually ona  raid, that's not too bad, but i still doubt i'll bother with it )</P> <P>On a side note...not being much of a raid shaman...I don't see me much if any worse off then before EoF..I do notice I seem to get more agro now tho...but i think that's mainly...from what i am hearing..Tanks having more agro control issues *shrug*</P> <P>Crondar Spiritwalker</P> <P>70 mystic of AB</P> <P> </P>

Sillililygirl
11-20-2006, 09:43 PM
Hey - I never said I was excited about the rez line. Was just pointing out I could see where it would be useful.  I doubt I will go down that path. :pThe immunities line looks useful - mostly for the end.I have 3 points in enhance auspice line already.  I might put some points in the stamina buff increase, dunno yet.<div></div>

Hexadecimil
11-21-2006, 03:38 AM
<P>:smileyvery-happy: I have not seen anyone hit the mark yet .......... Close your eyes and travel with me back to an age , when crops were planted by Phases of the Moon, and fire was still a mystery, but was needed for survival and one person could "Wake the Dead" or Heal a Disease and had saved children of the Tribe or Clan on a few occasions this person was a SHAMAN and if ya wanna be a soloer be a Necro  </P> <P> </P> <P>Im seated and waiting for the flames =)</P>

Terq
11-21-2006, 10:38 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Hexadecimil wrote:<BR> <P>:smileyvery-happy: I have not seen anyone hit the mark yet .......... Close your eyes and travel with me back to an age , when crops were planted by Phases of the Moon, and fire was still a mystery, but was needed for survival and one person could "Wake the Dead" or Heal a Disease and had saved children of the Tribe or Clan on a few occasions this person was a SHAMAN and if ya wanna be a soloer be a Necro  </P> <P> </P> <P>Im seated and waiting for the flames =)</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and how it pertains to my EQ2 mystic.  Furthermore, do you always make new accounts to post cryptic messages like this?</P> <P><BR> </P>

thedu
11-22-2006, 12:07 AM
<div><blockquote><hr>Hexadecimil wrote:<div></div> <p>:smileyvery-happy: I have not seen anyone hit the mark yet .......... Close your eyes and travel with me back to an age , when crops were planted by Phases of the Moon, and fire was still a mystery, but was needed for survival and one person could "Wake the Dead" or Heal a Disease and had saved children of the Tribe or Clan on a few occasions this person was a SHAMAN and if ya wanna be a soloer be a Necro  </p> <p>Im seated and waiting for the flames =)</p><font color="#ff0033">Why? Did you eat a lot beans? Or some really hot chili?</font><hr></blockquote></div>

Drachenfire
11-25-2006, 02:09 PM
<P>The Rez line hasn't really interested me at all, however the cure line with wards could be valuable, I may try some points there to see if it's worth it.</P> <P>50% SoW with a 25% reduction in falling damage is sweet though.</P> <P>I don't post even after 2 years of playing but I read a lot and all I can say to the op is all the threads you created about this in all the places don't seem like they are going to ever be very constructive or helpful to Mystics. I am all for constructive discussion of the issues but if I had to like every change that was made to my multiple high level toons in this game I would not have lasted for two years. Case in point I am only now back to the Mystic after the awful things that happened when DoF came out. The truly bad things from that LU were resolved, any truly bad things from this LU will be as well. (I got very sidetracked with new toons or I woulda been back much sooner)</P> <P>Let's try being patient and let the dust settle before we claim that Mystics are now obsolete, if your really bored jump into Wayunder lake in Loping Plains and cast Water Spirit on your grp while your all swimming That is broken and I know they are aware so I await the fix <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  ***SPLAT*** LOL</P> <P> </P> <P>If it's not fun anymore find a way to make it fun or else why are we playing a game in the first place?</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

samejima
11-25-2006, 04:31 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>Thatdumbguy wrote:    You can keep the DPS line all the hell you want, and even the buff line... just get rid of our craptastic cure and rez lines.<div></div><hr></blockquote>your cure line is very nice i dont understand why your complaing about this even if its 200 dmg which i herd it was i mean that is a extra 200 point ward you have for what 70-90 power your complaing why.......... i think you need to stop complaining about your aas and thinking how to make the best of them</div>

SnAke19
11-25-2006, 07:24 PM
the cure line looks good on the paper but if you try it you´ll see that its compleatly useless<div></div>

Mystiq
11-26-2006, 12:30 AM
<div><blockquote><hr>thedump wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>Hexadecimil wrote:<div></div> <p>:smileyvery-happy: I have not seen anyone hit the mark yet .......... Close your eyes and travel with me back to an age , when crops were planted by Phases of the Moon, and fire was still a mystery, but was needed for survival and one person could "Wake the Dead" or Heal a Disease and had saved children of the Tribe or Clan on a few occasions this person was a SHAMAN and if ya wanna be a soloer be a Necro  </p> <p>Im seated and waiting for the flames =)</p><font color="#ff0033">Why? Did you eat a lot beans? Or some really hot chili?</font><hr></blockquote></div><hr></blockquote>"thedump" posting fart jokes, I love it.<blockquote><hr>SnAke1983 wrote:the cure line looks good on the paper but if you try it you´ll see that its compleatly useless<hr></blockquote>I'd like to see some heal parses using these cure wards on encounters requiring a good bit of curing before we accept this assumption.I want to see what % of your heals for a fight or a zone are constituted by these wards at max rank.</div>

thedu
11-27-2006, 10:18 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>Mystique wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>thedump wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>Hexadecimil wrote:<div></div> <p>:smileyvery-happy: I have not seen anyone hit the mark yet .......... Close your eyes and travel with me back to an age , when crops were planted by Phases of the Moon, and fire was still a mystery, but was needed for survival and one person could "Wake the Dead" or Heal a Disease and had saved children of the Tribe or Clan on a few occasions this person was a SHAMAN and if ya wanna be a soloer be a Necro  </p> <p>Im seated and waiting for the flames =)</p><font color="#ff0033">Why? Did you eat a lot beans? Or some really hot chili?</font><hr></blockquote></div><hr></blockquote>"thedump" posting fart jokes, I love it.</div></blockquote><span>:smileytongue:</span></div>

Expiate
12-06-2006, 12:02 PM
the augmentation line is half decent, the melee line is great (for pvp). If i were still on everfrost I'd be absolutely [Removed for Content] and quit the second i saw the achievements. They're absolutely pathetic. Stick the fork in the mystic is right, there is not any reason to have a mystic in a raid (absolutely no reason) besides bolster and that doesnt win raids. Defiler wins in every scenerio, tendrils is even a damageshield-type proc that slows, so they can keep warding. Defiler can easily get at least a 10k ST ward on the main tank while buffing his [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing hp almost 2k ! Hey SOE way to go ahead and draw up the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]tiest Achievements I've ever laid eyes on out of dozens of games. Next time around (SOES MOTTO) try asking on the class specific forums of some ideas for achievements, rather than supply us with this./rant off<div></div>