Runic Aegis doesn't stack mit.. with other healer classes??

[KNINE]

<DIV>Just a question. I think that I saw this post somewhere else but can't remember. Our Runic Aegis buff doesn't stack (mitigation wise ) with the druid or cleric one? Am I correct? I thought that spells should stack as long as its not the same class thus the use of 3 healers in MT grp. I know this isn't the only reason to have 3 healers in MT grp but was just curious..</DIV>

[FlintAH]

3 healers in the MT group is a waste of a spot in the MT group.

[DwarvesR]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> FlintAH wrote:<BR> 3 healers in the MT group is a waste of a spot in the MT group.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>That was SO amazingly useful.  You didn't answer the OP's question at all, but simply made a declaration that a lot of people would disagree with and offered no reason as to why you think it's the truth. :rolleyes:</P> <P>**********************************************</P> <P>To the OP:</P> <P>The group buff mitigation doesn't stack, but the "secondary" portion of the buffs do, since they're not the same effect.</P> <P>And most x4 raids will have 3 healers in the MT group for the ability to have all types of heals on the MT as well as all the various buffs possible from each type of healer.  Smaller raids generally will only have 2 healers in the MT group, becuz there usually isn't as much buffage needed vs the "lesser" raid mobs.  Obviously some will disagree that 3 healers are needed for a x4 raid, but they are in the minority.</P>

[Munter78]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DwarvesRUs wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> FlintAH wrote:<BR> 3 healers in the MT group is a waste of a spot in the MT group.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>That was SO amazingly useful.  You didn't answer the OP's question at all, but simply made a declaration that a lot of people would disagree with and offered no reason as to why you think it's the truth. :rolleyes:</P> <P>**********************************************</P> <P>To the OP:</P> <P>The group buff mitigation doesn't stack, but the "secondary" portion of the buffs do, since they're not the same effect.</P> <P>And most x4 raids will have 3 healers in the MT group for the ability to have all types of heals on the MT as well as all the various buffs possible from each type of healer.  Smaller raids generally will only have 2 healers in the MT group, becuz there usually isn't as much buffage needed vs the "lesser" raid mobs.  Obviously some will disagree that 3 healers are needed for a x4 raid, but they are in the minority.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Well, I agree with him, you only need two healers in MT, three is a waste of space.  What, add a warden for extra heals and a wis buff?  Both healers should already be at the wis cap anyways.   Any possible reason Ive seen for people to defend 3 healers on these posts, can and has been shot down.  I really only see guilds that struggle with raid content using that strat.  Oh well.</P> <P>But to the original post question.  No, they dont stack, the combine.   If you have a Mystic and a Templar in the group, The one with the highest lvl spell will hold for the mitigation portion.  The mystics buff will use its all physical dmg ward, and the templar I believe gives some extra hp.  So you get those buffs combined.  Now true, you could add yet another healer to this, but a bard is a MUCH better choice for buffs.  And if you are worried about mit, add a conjuror, sk or pally to the group.  Really depends on your target.  But I'd highly stay away from the 3 healers in the group.  Any raid mob in the game....ANY......can be beat with two healers in the MT group of a raid.   Even taranix can be beat with just 5 healers total without much of an issue, just gotta handle each mob the right way, and its cake. </P>

[Pins]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> FlintAH wrote:<BR> 3 healers in the MT group is a waste of a spot in the MT group.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Good joke friend.  I am sorry, but 3 healers is not a waste of space in a MT group.  A Druid, Shaman, Cleric are all 3 key roles in the MT group, and not having 1 of them, while you still can manage, it is much easier to keep a tank alive if you have 1 of each healer type in the group.

[Sokolov]

<blockquote><hr>Munter78 wrote:<div></div><p> What, add a warden for extra heals and a wis buff?  Both healers should already be at the wis cap anyways.</p><hr></blockquote> I am not capped =/ 416 wis.<div></div>

[FlintAH]

It may be easier to heal, but you lose a lot of other benefits w/o someone else in MT group instead of the druid.  The druid doesnt add many hps or anything else a fully geared raid tank needs.<div></div>

[Dragonreal]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Munter78 wrote:<BR> <BR> <P>But to the original post question.  No, they dont stack, the combine.   If you have a Mystic and a Templar in the group, <STRONG>The one with the highest lvl spell will hold for the mitigation portion.</STRONG>  The mystics buff will use its all physical dmg ward, and the templar I believe gives some extra hp.  So you get those buffs combined.  Now true, you could add yet another healer to this, but a bard is a MUCH better choice for buffs.  And if you are worried about mit, add a conjuror, sk or pally to the group.  Really depends on your target.  But I'd highly stay away from the 3 healers in the group.  Any raid mob in the game....ANY......can be beat with two healers in the MT group of a raid.   Even taranix can be beat with just 5 healers total without much of an issue, just gotta handle each mob the right way, and its cake. </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Not true (unless it's been fixed recently).. the mystic's mitigation portion WILL overwrite any other hlr's buff (idk about if you had a mystic and defiler together for some reason though) and a defiler's mit portion will act the same. Even if the shammy is using a t5 buff and the other hlr is using a t7 buff, the shammy mit will still overwrite (tested this myself earlier in kos...  our shammys took a lili time getting their spells upgraded and I got m1 t7 real early on yet the tank's mit went down whenever it was me and a shammy together).<BR>

[Banditman]

Not capped on Wis either . . . full set of Doomseer armor (which looks incredible in high resoluction I might add), Mark, Band of Superiority, Foresworn, etc . . . high end stuff.  Still can't do much more than 450 self-buffed Wis.I benefit greatly from having a Wis buffer in my group.  I can get by without it, but it does help.<div></div>

[jbremer]

the last time i tested the mit/ward portion the mit on the the tank dropped by nearly a 100...i dont even use the buff in a raid if im grped with inq/temp...rather cast fortelling on another player...losin 100 mit for a tnak isnt really worth a 105 ward imo....then again i have not tested it in a bit so maybe they fixed it yea right what am i thinking...

[thedu]

<div></div>This is supposed to be fixed in the next LU I believe. <div></div><p>Message Edited by thedump on <span class=date_text>09-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:20 AM</span>

[Eepop]

<blockquote><hr>jbremer wrote:<div></div>the last time i tested the mit/ward portion the mit on the the tank dropped by nearly a 100...i dont even use the buff in a raid if im grped with inq/temp...rather cast fortelling on another player...losin 100 mit for a tnak isnt really worth a 105 ward imo....then again i have not tested it in a bit so maybe they fixed it yea right what am i thinking...<hr></blockquote>With the current state of the bug, it pretty much forces us to upgrade our Runic Aegis to the same level as the other priests we work with will have or higher.  I think RA was about my 3rd T7 adept 3.<div></div>