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Purcupile
07-27-2006, 09:08 PM
<DIV>I saw a Bolster Master on the market for the first time this morning.  25P seems a high price to pay for a spell that I don't know if there is a great enough benefit with it only adding 6%  (48% - 54%).  What thoughts do you have on this spell?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On the subject of spells...it seems that the only spells on the market day-in-and-day-out have been the same for months.  Is this typical that can go for 5-6 months with no additional or different master spells dropping?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Purcupile</DIV><p>Message Edited by Purcupile on <span class=date_text>07-27-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:27 AM</span>

Plomien
07-27-2006, 09:13 PM
<P>I saw it last night on my server for 18PP (no way i have that money or would spend that amount at present)</P> <P>As regards for it dropping it may have been that it has dropped but has gone to mystics who were in the group at the time.</P> <P>I am happy with my adept 3 spell but would turn down the master version but won't be buying it off the merchants at the current prices</P>

Terq
07-27-2006, 09:27 PM
<P>The 54% is only to the target's physical size.  Bolster Master 1 does not increase stats by 54%.  Bolster M1 does increase stats by 20%, which is a 5% increase over the Adept 3 (15%)</P> <P>I am not sure what the market is like on your server, but on Oasis, you can generally get Mystic masters for less than 10pp.  I think that I paid 5 for Bolster.  For me, a 5% over the adept 3 for 30 seconds was not worth more than that.  </P> <P>25 pp is way too much IMHO.  </P>

Banditman
07-27-2006, 10:07 PM
Actually, M1 is a 2.5% increase over Adept 3 which is 17.5%.  Adept 1 is 15%.I wouldn't pay more than 5-7 plat for the spell in the Kithicor economy.<div></div>

rickfrey29726
07-28-2006, 11:54 AM
On Nagafen bolster seems to drop often.I have had bolster master 1 3 times now and havent payed a single copper for it. (had to betray twice for claymore)<div></div>

Terq
07-28-2006, 08:16 PM
<P>That's right.  I remebered the 20% at M1, and it being a very insubstantial upgrade from the adept 3 (actually, I might have gone straight from Adept 1 to the master, /shrug).  But yeah, with it being such a small upgrade, I wouldn't make it a priority. </P> <P> </P>

Triyton
07-28-2006, 08:58 PM
<DIV>17.5% to 20% is modest, but then that is applied to 5 stats, at east 4 of which actually help the tank, plus seemingly by the description an extra boost to the HP.  That can help get thru the tough initial portion of a tough pull.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Banditman
07-28-2006, 11:25 PM
It's a little more important to a beginning raid guild than an established one, I'll grant you.  Still, I wouldn't put nearly as much value on a Bolster Master as an Ethereal Aegis Master for instance.<div></div>

Munter78
07-29-2006, 09:03 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> rickfrey29726 wrote:<BR>On Nagafen bolster seems to drop often.<BR><BR>I have had bolster master 1 3 times now and havent payed a single copper for it. (had to betray twice for claymore)<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Same with Blackburrow.  Seems to always be on broker.  Only master that I dont have is the lvl 70 group ward.  Have yet to even hear of anyone having it on the server.  Oh, and the lvl 57 small heal lol. Have never seen that one either.

exxxie
07-30-2006, 07:53 PM
<div></div>Anyone recall where they got Runic Aegis to drop? <div></div><p>Message Edited by exxxie on <span class=date_text>07-30-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:53 AM</span>

Loral
07-31-2006, 04:55 PM
<P>There is no "where" in EQ2. Any Master1 of any class can drop from any mob of the appropriate level. The chance to drop increases with the difficulty of the mob.</P> <P>If you want a lv66 spell, then hunt for mobs around lv66 to maximize your chances.</P>

Banditman
07-31-2006, 05:25 PM
I'm not even sure level has much to do with it anymore.Last night Bolster (L65) M1 dropped off a L74 named in Nizara.<div></div>

Loral
07-31-2006, 05:51 PM
<P>It used to work up to T6, and the last 2 Master1s I got myself were exactly the level of the mob I had just killed. From general personnal observation, It was always give or take 1-2 levels.</P> <P>I would guess there are exeptions thou then. Raids mobs probably drop anything in the 14 levels range lower than them (wild guess here).</P>

Banditman
08-01-2006, 04:53 PM
Nizara is a one group instance . . . an insanely difficult and costly one, but it is just one group.<div></div>

Loral
08-01-2006, 05:14 PM
<DIV>Seems I was totally wrong (or that the rules don't apply in T7). I got a lv61 Inquisitor Master1 yesterday off the 2nd named in Nest of the Great Egg. He is 65 or 66.</DIV>

Banditman
08-01-2006, 08:29 PM
I think it still applies to Advanced tradeskill books.<div></div>

ecoskii
08-03-2006, 04:18 PM
<P>Umbral Liturgy lvl70 grp ward  is bugging me... It is about the only master I don't have, I'm the only mystic in one of the largest guilds on the server (Splitpaw) , we raid DT but I have never even seen a sniff of it even for sale....  I know it has been discovered but I'm soo bugged that I can't get it.  Anyone had more luck?</P> <P> </P> <P>Ecoskii - 70 Mystic </P> <P><A href="http://www.shadowsofthedragon.com" target=_blank>www.shadowsofthedragon.com</A></P> <P> </P>

Terq
08-03-2006, 06:11 PM
<DIV>I saw one on sale on Oasis about 2 months ago.  However, I have noticed that there seem to be a lot less of the level 70 spells in general than the others.  </DIV>

Banditman
08-03-2006, 06:46 PM
Standard procedure.Every time you hit a level cap, your highest level spells are extremely rare.  It's been true at every tier.<div></div>

Habita
08-04-2006, 02:49 AM
payed 50p for the server discover <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span>

Purcupile
08-04-2006, 11:13 PM
<P>What about Transcendence Master...haven't seen it either.  How about other servers?</P> <P>Purcupile</P>

Banditman
08-04-2006, 11:23 PM
L70 Master.  Rare.  Don't look for it, just be pleasantly surprised if it ever drops.<div></div>

Loral
08-05-2006, 12:19 AM
<DIV>And humble in victory if you win it.</DIV>

Purcupile
08-05-2006, 07:22 PM
<P>I'll keep hoping that my ancestors will see fit to offer it to me.</P> <P>Purcupile</P>

SonnyA
08-10-2006, 07:03 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> cloudyspam wrote:<BR> <P>Umbral Liturgy lvl70 grp ward  is bugging me... It is about the only master I don't have, I'm the only mystic in one of the largest guilds on the server (Splitpaw) , we raid DT but I have never even seen a sniff of it even for sale....  I know it has been discovered but I'm soo bugged that I can't get it.  Anyone had more luck?</P> <P> </P> <P>Ecoskii - 70 Mystic </P> <P><A href="http://www.shadowsofthedragon.com/" target=_blank>www.shadowsofthedragon.com</A></P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>On Permafrost, it has been put up for sale for 40p (and it's Mystiques guild that's selling - shame on them). But who am I to complain!? I sold Ice comet for 40p.

Banditman
08-10-2006, 08:34 PM
There are scattered reports of various L70 Masters dropping in the new Nek Castle instance.  The other Mystic in my guild looted Oberon Barrier last night for sure.<div></div>

SonnyA
08-11-2006, 12:23 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Banditman wrote:<BR>There are scattered reports of various L70 Masters dropping in the new Nek Castle instance.  The other Mystic in my guild looted Oberon Barrier last night for sure.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Plenty of level 70 masters has been dropping in PoA as well. That's where I got my Oberon Barrier.