Spending money at T7

[Ass]

Greetings,am a 63 Mystic with 8pp currently (most I ever had), I almost never solo, group a lot and raid. Was wondering how to prioritize my spending money best, for the 8pp and future earnings. Mystic Masters are between 6pp and 30pp on my server, should I save up for them or try to buy moonstone? And what items are worth picking up when for sale and I can afford them? Should I go for buffs or debuffs first?So far I upgraded Torpor and Rejuvenating Rite to Adept3 and bought myself a Mantle of the Orate.Thanks/Mystara<div></div>

[Banditman]

Go with Adept 3's if you are spending your own money.  Anything Level 57 or higher.<div></div>

[LadySortile]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Banditman wrote:<BR>Go with Adept 3's if you are spending your own money.  Anything Level 57 or higher.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Agree with Banditman. </P> <P>In my case I started by my Wards, Bolster, Buffs/Debuffs, Heals and Cures. </P>

[Eepop]

Assuming that all previous spells are equally upgraded, I would rank the 57-70 spells in this order of importance.  The 5-60 spells have been given a little boost considering that they are cheaper to acquire.  And this is for my playstyle as a grouper/raider.  Theres definitely room for interpretation, this is just how I would rank them. 68 - Ethereal Aegis 67 - Lamenting Soul 68 - Wail of the Ancients 58 - Ancient Balm 70 - Umbral Liturgy 70 - Oberon Barrier 57 - Rejuvenating Rite 60 - Learned Healing (can be chosen as master 2 at 64) 61 - Runic Aegis (Because of  the bug that makes the mitigation of ours overwrite the mitigation of cleric/druid mitigation buff) 58 - Foretelling 65 - Bolster 66 - Shrieking Haze 59 - Umbral Attendant 70 - Ebbing Spirit 58 - Umbral Mettle 63 - Lethargy 64 - Eidolon 60 - Spirit of the Mammoth (stat caps are teh suck) 61 - Ancient Avatar (stat caps are teh suck) 65 - Glacial Flames 67 - Plague 59 - Wrath of the Grey 60 - Wrath of the Ancients 70 - Transcendence  62 - Ursine Auger  55 - Slothful Spirit<div></div>

[Loral]

<DIV>Torpor, ward and group ward first and foremost. The rest depends mostly on your playstyle. Debuffs if you group more. Nukes/DoTs if you solo alot. Buffs and debuffs if you raid.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On my server, unless exception or luck, you get a better return on investment by getting multiple Ad3 over few Masters. But again, it may depend on your playstyle. Serious Raiding Guilds will require Master1s. Day-to-day grouping, you will be more than powerful with Ad3s.</DIV>

[Dragonreal]

<DIV>also if you're a raider.. I wouldn't reccomedn buying gear off the broker; if your stuff is already decent enough for xping, I'd wait til you get dropped stuff from raiding or just go farm legendaries from instances unless you need to boost a specific resist.</DIV>

[Pinkflo]

You got our group heal at the bottom? Dam you must be crazy

[Finora]

<DIV>I'd definately do spells before gear. Good gear drops like candy in T7. I've spent all of 20 gold on gear for t7 and that was on one piece that was previously selling for over 2pp and is about as good as a person in a guild that doesn't raid is likely to see. </DIV> <DIV>The rest has dropped in groups I've been in and from quests I've completed with those groups.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Thatdumbg]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Eepop wrote: 61 - Runic Aegis (Because of  the bug that makes the mitigation of ours overwrite the mitigation of cleric/druid mitigation buff)<div></div><hr></blockquote>    Eh... other mit buffs stack? Between which classes? I've taken off my mit buff before in a group with a templar and fury and seen mit go down by a little bit (I'm the only one with the mit buff mastered out of the group), not up... which would imply that they weren't stacking at all (which I thought was intentional).Awesome Idea on ranking all the spells! I guess I'll steal the idea and throw in my input. I raid heavily and primarily but this is for a more group-friendly environment... what I would suggest based on raiding is very highly dependant upon the force you usually field and the role you usually take (of course, getting them all is good in this situation =P).If I had to make my own suggestion I guess I would break it down like this, prioritized within spell typesHeals/cures in order from most used to least used, somewhat skewered towards grouping (and I'm not saying this is what is best, as I guess it really depends on your setup)Ethereal AegisTorporRejuvenating RiteAncient Balm (so long as you can cure over 75 levels you should be fine)TranscendanceLearned HealingUmbral LiturgyEbbing Spirit (over 75 levels should be fine)Oberon Barrier (this might be ranked higher depending upon your group makeup)Umbral AttendantDebuffs (keep in mind for these sometimes an offtier master CAN be almost as useful as a new one, and cheaper)Wail of the AncientsEidolonLamenting SoulLethargyShrieking HazeUm... Umbral Trap? (I guess if you really wanna cap -DPS mods yourself =P)Damage:Glacial FlamesWrath of the GreyFevered PoxWrath of the AncientsSlothful SpiritBuffs (in order of what I think is most important)Runic AegisForetellingUmbral MettleAncient AvatarSpirit of the MammothBolsterUrsine AugurProphetic Aegis (very seldom used for me and situational so..)Other (not really priorities at all)Sonorous SpiritsGhastly Savior</div><p>Message Edited by Thatdumbguy on <span class=date_text>06-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:04 AM</span>

[Eepop]

<blockquote><hr>Thatdumbguy wrote:<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Eepop wrote: 61 - Runic Aegis (Because of  the bug that makes the mitigation of ours overwrite the mitigation of cleric/druid mitigation buff)<div></div><hr></blockquote>    Eh... other mit buffs stack? Between which classes? I've taken off my mit buff before in a group with a templar and fury and seen mit go down by a little bit (I'm the only one with the mit buff mastered out of the group), not up... which would imply that they weren't stacking at all (which I thought was intentional).</div><hr></blockquote>I guess I should elaborate for those that don't haunt the forums... Mitigation buffs between priests do not stack. The problem is that shaman mitigation buffs of a lower value have been known to overwrite cleric/druid mitigation buffs of a higher value. If a mystic had Runic Aegis apprentice 1, and the cleric in your group had a master 1 mitigation buff, the mitigation of the mystic buff would take effect and the cleric mitigation(although it has a much higher value) would be supressed.<div></div>

[Eepop]

<blockquote><hr>Pinkfloyd wrote:<div></div>You got our group heal at the bottom? Dam you must be crazy<hr></blockquote>The group heal is such a tremendous waste of mana and casting time.  If I need healing on the whole group I just take preventative measures and group ward.  After that I just use Umbral Attendant. I use my group heal about once a week, and for once a week adept 1 will do just fine.<div></div>

[Banditman]

Putting group heal all the way at the bottom might be a bit much for most folks.As a raiding Mystic normally in the MT group (no Defiler, no other Mystic in guild) I would concur that I use my Group Heal rarely to never.  Druids do a much better job of healing an entire group using their regens.However, for most raiding Mystics, it's a lot more important.In a DPS group you are likely to be on your own keeping your group up versus all those AE's, and having your Group Heal as strong as possible is a LOT more important.  The first time you are the only healer in a DPS group killing Vyemm you'll understand.<div></div>

[Purcupile]

<P>I agree with Banditman.  Although there is no wrong answer here as everything is situational.  I rarely find myself in the MT group on raids...usually in the DPS or other support group.  I often find that I have a Monk or Mage type in my group aswell which means they don't have the mitigation you would probably find in the MT group.  As a result they will take damage (even if group warded) faster than those in the MT group and thus have a need to be healed more frequently.  It is more efficient in both mana and time, in my opinion, to heal 2 or 3 group members with a group heal than than wards or individual heals.</P> <P>While I seem to spend the majority of my time debuffing and making sure the MT stays healthy...I also keep my eye on the health of my group and find I can usually keep them up with the group buff and group heal.</P> <P> </P> <P>Purcupile</P>

[Eepop]

Yeah...im either in MT group or in a melee DPS group.  In a melee DPS group I usually only have zerker, assassin, swashbuckler, and a brawler to heal.  Theres a brigand, but he's mostly AE immune.  They all have somewhat decent mitigation, so I have the group ward up before the AE hits, which absorbs most of it.  If its at all ranged, I pull back at the last second and start casting umbral attendant so that it finishes right after the AE hits. Otherwise, I just drop him as soon as I can.  If anyone is significantly hurt, they get a Torpor.  And that usually does the trick. <div></div>