Spear as choice for Prismatics, Godking weapon, claymore series.

[Dae Draug]

<div></div><div></div>Been playing my mystic for quiet some time now and something seems missing.  I haven't found a nice spear to replace my reward for the prismatic series (yes been slacking on godking but thats a hammer reward so the same applies there)Just curious how other shaman feel about having a spear as reward with nice stats in the Prismatics, Peacock series, claymore series.dear soe can you give us some nice -edited- One handed -/edited- spear reward =)Oh and dear overlord if you read this, can you please burn fluffy antonica?thanks your friend,Dagorlad Mystic 70 United Kingdoms Splitpaw server<div></div><p>Message Edited by Dae Draug on <span class="date_text">04-19-2006</span> <span class="time_text">04:44 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Dae Draug on <span class=date_text>04-24-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:54 AM</span>

[Banditman]

I wouldn't *mind* seeing a Prismatic Spear, but I doubt it will happen.I have my Prismatic, which I use when raiding.  FT12 4tw.I also have a very nice collection of weapons, including a super nice Shaman only 1H Spear, to use when solo'ing or grouping.  Until something with a point on it has FT12 or greater, I just don't see a raiding Mystic using anything different.It's just too hard to get up to that FT52 cap without a Prismatic.I'm not there yet, and I already use:Helm of Clandestine Rites (FT<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />, Vestiment of the Devout (FT3), Golden Efreeti Boots (FT5), Mark of the Awakened Intellect (FT5), Band of the Shimmering Spirit (FT7), Prismatic Sceptre (FT12), Draconolorum Grimiore (FT4) . . . total FT44.I anticipate putting the Deathtoll access reward in a wrist slot to bring me up to FT51, which I'll consider "close enough".Still, look what happens if I take out the Prismatic . . . I'm down to FT32 . . . that's a fairly significant difference over the course of a 5 minute fight.<div></div>

[Eepop]

It is on the list of grievances, but not a whole lot of poeple are holding thier breath on it, with more pressing issues at hand. There are a few decent spears for soloing or grouping, but I dont think any for raiding. The funny part is, to get the ones that are equal to maces for soloing/grouping...you have to get them from a raid. I have a scepter of the invoker from a heroic drop in Sanctum of Scale.  This legendary mace dropped from a heroic in the first dungeon of the expansion is pretty comparable to the best spears available(from raids) in everything other than melee DPS. <div></div>

[Banditman]

Doomwing Warfork is a pretty good spear (2H) that drops in one of the instances in KoS.There is another 2H spear that drops in Halls of Fate off the named eyeball guy (uncommon drop).  I think it's Ishikurrat or something like that.There is a nice 2H Hammer that drops in, I think, Blackscale Sepulcher.Obviously Grizzfazzles Mace.The only "raid dropped, group only" weapon I have is that Shaman only Spear from Lab.(Don't even ask me what my Piercing skill is.  The last spear I owned was Aurora's Spear of Mysticism)<div></div>

[Eepop]

<div></div>Edit: Bah...was posting a pic of the spears i was talking about, but seems my home server is down.  Will have to wait till I am home from work to get the server going again. As for the 2 handed spears, I dont think any 2H spear I have seen is better for anything but soloing than a mace + any offhand item. <div></div><p>Message Edited by Eepop on <span class=date_text>04-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:55 AM</span>

[Banditman]

I thought that was what we were talking about . . . group / solo DPS mode?<div></div>

[Eepop]

I havent parsed the damage on a 2H spear vs a 1H mace, maybe I am minimizing in my mind how much it helps. You only autoattack between casts, which even if you are just keeping DoTs on and spamming the direct damage isnt much time to take advantage of the higher base damage. <div></div>

[Jakob]

<DIV>i for one would love to se a 1h Spear choise for the Claymore line.</DIV> <DIV>i been disepointed that there havent been befor.</DIV> <DIV>i want Spear i want spear <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Eileithia]

<P>For soloing.. I use a 2h Hammer that drops in Blackscale.. For Spears, I have 2 different 1h spears.. one has better WIZ and power, the other has better INT and damage..</P> <P>For secondary slot.. I ALWAYS have a buckler (That drops of the sleeping Droag in HoF).. especially for raids.. every piece of mitigation helps if you happen to pull aggro, or the mob has an AE melee attack.. and for ranged.. I have a couple of items.. various tomes / symbols that I flip around for resists or stats needed..</P> <P>Edit:<BR>I'd love to see Godking weapon have a way to change to a 1H spear.. that would rock.. As for the Claymore reward.. it's a secondary item (buckler for priests if I recall correctly)... so get your Godking quests done if you can as it's not getting upgraded this expansion :smileywink:</P><p>Message Edited by Duntzzzz on <span class=date_text>04-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:41 AM</span>

[Banditman]

When talking about 2H vs 1H, always go 2H if you are casting a great deal.  You will wind up missing out on a lot less damage due to casting.Its a lot of math and stuff to demonstrate, but if you are trying for maximum DPS from auto attack, get something that swings slow but hits hard.I'm doing this on paper, so I'll be leaving out a lot here for the sake of brevity.  I'm assuming you are basically chain casting with auto attack on for maximum damage.My spear has a nearly identical damage rating to the 2H hammer.  Within a couple points.  The spear delay is 1.6, the hammer is 8.0.Every time I cast a spell, I'm losing .4 seconds of recast time on my auto attack.  I'm actually losing 1.4 every time I cast my disease DoT (Plague at my level).  If I were to cast something like my AE DD, I'd lose even more time.Using my spear over the course of a 45 second fight, I lose about 13.6 seconds, or about 8 swings.Using my hammer over the course of a 45 second fight, I lose about 4 seconds, or .5 (really not any) swings (unless the hammer is the killing blow, in which case I lose a whole swing, very complex, please don't ask).Fun stuff guys.Also consider if you are driving down towards the heal crit AA, you've also run over the melee crit AA and pushed yourself up to 50% melee crits.  Again, you're losing more melee crits by using the faster swing item.<div></div>

[Dae Draug]

<div></div>t<strike>hat claymore reward is the worst reward for a shaman i could think of. Yay a way to increase our heal by another 50hp(sarcasm)might be nice if it gave us an increase on ward(s)</strike>. -Edited- Mystique pointed out it also increases ward missed that on the effect list so very usefull =)Not that we gonna see Deathtoll with all the raiding guilds hugging the Contested dragons. There a change incoming developers? I know a nice one stop dropping loot from the Quest mobs =) <div></div><p>Message Edited by Dae Draug on <span class=date_text>04-21-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:43 AM</span>

[Mystiq]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Dae Draug wrote:that claymore reward is the worst reward for a shaman i could think of. Yay a way to increase our heal by another 50hp(sarcasm)might be nice if it gave us an increase on ward(s).Not that we gonna see Deathtoll with all the raiding guilds hugging the Contested dragons.There a change incoming developers? I know a nice one stop dropping loot from the Quest mobs =)<div></div><hr></blockquote>Might be nice if you did some research on the Arm of Erollisi before dismissing it.First of all, the proc is a 10% chance to proc Marr's Blessing when you cast ANY beneficial spell. Heals, wards, cures, your pet, your horse (lol)....that right there tells you it procs a LOT.Secondly, the proc itself increases the amount of any heal or ward you have by 20%. That's an extra 1/5th of the total added. It's the same as having one point in the shaman aa Ritual, which is one of the best priest achievement abilities there is. Umbral Liturgy master 1 wards for over 4k when this proc happens. Learned Healing will heal for over 2k with this buff. You get the idea....I hope.The cure proc, which is the second effect of the item, is mostly useless and will likely never be noticed. On that part I would argue for a better effect, but I wouldn't call it high priority. I do like the fact that the claymore "epic" reward is usable with the Godking scepter - at least some thought was given to the fact that we're none too fond of replacing our uber and difficult to obtain primary weapons every 6 months. Though it does resemble a shield, it has no protection, which is also something I would support changing in the future.</div>

[Dae Draug]

<div></div><div></div><div></div>@mystique, i am not stating they should change the effect on the claymore reward as they put some very nice effects on it. I am happy it isn't just another upgrade on the godking weapon. As for the effect on the shield i stated it wasn't as benefitial for a mystic as it would be to druid/cleric type of healers as it looked like only the heals got the increase so  i was happy for them as we get enough usefull items in this game.  Back to topic i was just curious if they can change some choices. As a spear would suit a shaman more then the mace, so would a  sword  suit  a  druid  as a hammer suits a cleric =)just my 50cDagorlad Mystic 70 United Kingdoms Splitpaw server<div></div><p>Message Edited by Dae Draug on <span class="date_text">04-21-2006</span> <span class="time_text">05:41 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Dae Draug on <span class="date_text">04-21-2006</span> <span class="time_text">06:45 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Dae Draug on <span class=date_text>04-21-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:45 AM</span>

[Banditman]

Mystics are able to use the 2H spear from Godking.<div></div>

[Sokolov]

I look everyday on the broker for a good spear to buy... never see any =/<div></div>

[Banditman]

Ishi'kurrat's Sawtooth (Halls of Fate), Doomwing Warfork (nfc), Serpentine Skewer (Laboratory of Lord Vyemm).All excellent spear type weapons.<div></div>

[thedu]

Anyone have any info on their DPS number for the sawtooth? It's strange that crushing base damage always seems to be more then piercing. <div></div>

[Banditman]

I might be able to dig up a Guardian using the Sawtooth from my logs, but I haven't got it to drop yet.On the plus side, it looks like a [Removed for Content] harpoon.  Pretty cool.<div></div>

[TheRealMo]

Anyone know if the Ribcage Scythe works with the AGI aa line? Says it's a Great Spear in its description.<div></div>

[Dae Draug]

@banditman: considering the stats i still would go for the one handed hammer on godking reward.If i was a druid, I could pick the sword but would loose the stats of the hammer aswell. <div></div>

[Banditman]

Certainly I would go with the "preferred" Godking weapon as well.I was merely pointing out that, in the developers eyes, a "spear" already exists for Mystics in that line and is unlikely to be added.<div></div>

[thedu]

Here's a post on <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=100941" target=_blank>The Right hand of the Priestess</a>  <img src="http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/target69/priestes.jpg"> It's somewhat nice, but the according to the other post the proc is either not there or not working correctly.  I'm getting really aggravated with the choices for Spears they just don't compare as well to crush weapons. <div></div>

[phantomho]

it procs really well for around 500 damage. for awhile it had a 25% proc rate and owned for solo.

[Banditman]

Serpentine Skewer has better priest stats (imo) and procs a poison based DoT that ticks 4 times for 280 - 350ish.  DR is slightly lower than hand, but it's a very comparable weapon with perhaps slightly more class fulfilling stats.<div></div>