New pet how good is it?

[Anasyn Silverdagg]

<div></div><div>How good is it going to be? Will it be able to tank for us against solo mobs or just assist us against these type of mobs. Does it do more dps then us on auto attack? Just a few questions that i've been thinking about.</div><p>Message Edited by Anasyn Silverdagger on <span class="date_text">02-16-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:57 AM</span></p>

[Owlbe]

<div></div>My understanding is the dog does not tank well.  It is mostly just a dps aid that it does supposed fairly well.  I assume if you take the aa's that enchance the dog (which I plan to do) that it should give us a nice dps boost for those that want it.  For those that don't want it there is lots of other more raid friendly aa's to take that would be more valuable to different playstyles.

[Mathe]

<div></div>You have to have at least App 1 anyways, and extra DPS is always nice, especially if you do any soloing. No matter what line you take, I would still expect that putting points into the Pet AA would still be more valuable than the stat ones (assuming the pet doesn't level cap and become useless like early Summoner pets). Unless you are planning on trying to get multiple lines, I would expect putting some points into would still be a good bet.

[vicario]

<div>I am going pet...why?  Because sometimes I don't get a group and so I work on quests...some may agree with me on this...but with no potions taking down a mob would take time...</div><div> </div><div>Example: </div><div> </div><div>At 60 I attacked a lvl 50 heroic mob...took me FOREVER to finally kill it...</div><div>At 60 I attacked a lvl 57 heroic mob...dead...</div><div> </div><div>If you have a pet that can dps...then the pet SHOULD be able to keep aggro while you  heal it...so yeah I am going to get the pet and spend points into it because it irritates me when a druid can take out mobs in a minute or two and it takes mystics so much longer to take it down <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  I mean I have heard, not sure if it's true, that Mystics are the worst solo class of all the healing community...</div>

[N00dl3z]

I play a defiler, but we get the same pet.   Soloing was the first thing i tested.   The pet may be triple down arrow, but it tanks solo mobs well enough to keep me amused if i cant get a group.last time i was logged into beta, you could not upgrade the pet spell itself,   meaning there was only one level of the spell and it could not be upgraded.<div></div>

[Eepop]

The facts:1) The initial pet AA is only 1 point, and can not be upgraded further.2) The pet is a ghost wolf.3) The pet is the same level as you and is triple down arrow.4) There is a seperate ability that specificly gives the pet more HPs and DPS.5) There are other abilities that can give the pet other benefits, like a chance to interrupt.6) The pet can tank a <u>solo </u>mob.  Even so, its much easier to have you tank it, and let the dog just dps.7) The pet can <font size="5"><b>NOT</b></font> tank a heroic mob.<div></div>

[Owlbe]

<div></div><p>I'm glad I'm not the only one going to invest heavy into dogdog hehe.  Glad to hear they are ok dps so my aa spec plan might work out after all.</p><p>Check my other post about spec'ing AA's <a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=19&message.id=11462">http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=19&message.id=11462</a> and investing in the wis/str lines for full use of the dog and still coming out with some grp haste (passive) and a grp reactive ward (timered) for some group utility.</p><p> </p>

[MalkorGodchyld]

<div></div><p><font size="2"> Does the pet benefit from our normal group buffs as well as the pet specific buffs??    Can we cast single target buffs on the pet just like we would a MT?</font></p><p><font size="2"></font> </p><p><font size="2">~ Retired 60 Defiler ~</font></p>

[Banditman]

<div>As long as you don't treat this pet like it was a Conjurors pet you'll be fine.</div><div> </div><div>Sure, you can send it up against non-heroic mobs and with your Wards it can tank . . . but it would be a LOT faster and more mana efficient to pull that mob on to yourself and let the pet do what it is supposed to do.</div><div> </div><div> </div>

[nalamdare]

<div><blockquote><hr>vicarious wrote:<div>I am going pet...why?  Because sometimes I don't get a group and so I work on quests...some may agree with me on this...but with no potions taking down a mob would take time...</div><div> </div><div>Example: </div><div> </div><div>At 60 I attacked a lvl 50 heroic mob...took me FOREVER to finally kill it...</div><div>At 60 I attacked a lvl 57 heroic mob...dead...</div><div> </div><div>If you have a pet that can dps...then the pet SHOULD be able to keep aggro while you  heal it...so yeah I am going to get the pet and spend points into it because it irritates me when a druid can take out mobs in a minute or two and it takes mystics so much longer to take it down <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  I mean I have heard, not sure if it's true, that Mystics are the worst solo class of all the healing community...</div><hr></blockquote>Well, we are the worst soloer's because we do the apsolute least ammount of dmg. In a raid, I could NOT even cap 100dps (parsed I only made parse because was healers channel for parses(heal parses), and normally when in a group I couldn't cap 60. So, wolf pets (that were bad *ss in EQ) will be very very nice.</div>

[NimSul]

<div></div>How does the pet cope with AE's ? does it die just if a mob with a ae looks at it or can it take some punishment?

[Banditman]

<div></div>It dies, just like all pets.

[NimSul]

<div></div>bleh that sux, what about the buff range of the "pet" group buff aa's? are they the standart 50m so i can park the pet far away and buff my group?

[Witl_Wog]

<div></div>One of the Pet AAs gives the pet immunity to AOEs.

[Banditman]

For 36 seconds . . . once every 15 minutes.<div></div>

[paisan]

<div></div><p>Granted i was only able to get 1 AA last night so my pet is weak but he was dying a lot on riposites until i remembered that i could cast foretelling on him. (Yess all group buffs are on him)</p><p>He also parsed in at a SOLID 7 DPS =P /flex   but cant expect much as he has 0 upgrades on him yet.</p>

[ka]

From what I saw it looks like they will fill a similar niche to the shaman pets in eq1. Not really a tank but something to help do DPS. I would imagine he is pretty darn sweet for soloing and probably a decent addition in a group. Not sure how well it will do in raid situations bu time will tell.kaid<div></div>

[paisan]

<div></div>I think AA's are mostly just flavor... DoF had 3 free spells. KoS has 1 spell and AA's... basically you choose your other spells. In no way are they comparable in power to EQ1 AA's. They are cool and provide a different customizeability... but our main spells are still very much our bread and butter.

[KindredHeart]

<div>I think my DogDog is the best behaved pet in the game *giggle* <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Having played a Shaman in EQ1, finally getting DogDog makes my Mystic feel complete somehow.  I think it's going to take some practice, and trial/error to figure out exactly how to properly use the pet but here's some stuff I've learned thus far:</div><div> </div><ul><li>Group buffs apply to the pet</li><li>You can single target buff the pet</li><li>You can't make him sit <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  - oh well no pet is ever perfect</li><li>Even though he dies sometimes, being able to pet pull when you want to absolutely ROCKS!</li><li>He's not a tank so don't use him that way</li></ul><p> </p><p>Has anyone figured out if the pet attacks better from behind the mob or in front of it?  I know some of the mage pets are scout classes and do more damage if they are positioned behind the mob.</p>

[Banditman]

The only advantage to rear arcing the pet is that he won't get riposted there.<div></div>

[TheRealMo]

<span><blockquote><hr>Banditman wrote:For 36 seconds . . . once every 15 minutes.<div></div><hr></blockquote>Spiritual Foresight  now has a recast of 5 seconds & is up Until Cancelled. Also has a chane to proc AE immunity for caster.<span>:smileysurprised:</span></span><div></div>

[!wa]

<div>How do I get this pet.</div>

[paisan]

<div></div><p>It is the first Brick in the AA hierarchy.</p><p>Thread on how to gain the required xp. <a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=19&message.id=11617">http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=19&message.id=11617</a></p>

[Sillililygirl]

The only thing I did with the pet is try a blue single down arrow solo mob.  The pet definitely helped with DPS...not sure if he helped much.  He didn't seem to have any taunt (I was fighting the mob too).I'm definitely pondering upgrading the pet with the AA's.What are other people pondering for routes on the AA's since you can only have 50 points total....????<div></div>

[Banditman]

There really isn't much to ponder.  I think you'll find very few Mystics willing to give up their weapon of choice so their pet can have ability "x".  Therefore, most Mystics will take whatever AA's don't require a specific weapon or secondary item.<div></div>

[paisan]

<div></div><p>Well seeing how each attributes line of skills has a requirement for the second skill we don't really have much choice.</p><p>Also is an orb considered a symbol? as in satisfy the requirements for "Ritual" in the Wis line?</p><p> </p>

[Nacire]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Banditman wrote:The only advantage to rear arcing the pet is that he won't get riposted there.<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>His hits also can't be dodged or parried from the rear except for brawler type mobs which will take the biggest hits from your debuffs anyway so will still be easy. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Especially with his slow attack speed though eliminating the mob's chance to parry/block/dodge/riposte that damage can help dogdog keep from looking gimpy.</p>

[Surly_Smurf]

<div>Yeah..what's up with this required weapon thing?</div><div> </div><div>Two whole lines require a spear or great spear be equipped. I am sure there are some Mystics using spears and Greatspears in Tier 6 and Tier 7 but generally speaking I like using my Prismatic weapon during raids and using my Royal Great Flail soloing or in small groups for a little melee damage, especially if the group is a little short on DPS. I have little desire to use a spear (Dual Wield) which has slightly lower stats than a One-Handed weapon. Certainly doesn't come close to the stats of my Prismatic!</div><div> </div><div>I would be happy to use a Great Spear if I found one with stats better than my RGF and a proc of a similar nature.  Anyone seen such a thing? Anyone had a weaponsmith make them a Tier 7 Great Spear, yet?</div>

[yoob]

<div>How do you bring up the pet control bar?  Now that I have this wolf I've been using /pet attack. But there is a bar which I can't figure out how to make appear.</div><div> </div><div>Thanks</div>

[tebion]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>yooboo wrote:<div>How do you bring up the pet control bar?  Now that I have this wolf I've been using /pet attack. But there is a bar which I can't figure out how to make appear.</div><div> </div><div>Thanks</div><hr></blockquote>Alt+P in standard settings</span></div>

[Owlbe]

<div></div><p>I think the pet is bugged.</p><p> </p><p>Our buffs show up on the pets bar but I'm sure they are not taking on the pet.  You can buff the pet with our hp buffs and there is no way it has the hp's it should have.  If someone else can confirm and test it out.   I'm /bugging it.</p><p> </p><p> </p>

[Zeltaria]

<div>I'm level 53, and after my pet was nearly dead I healed it for about 430 hp's or so and that topped his bar off, so my pet only has approx. 500 hps.  I hope it increases as we level.   *lol*</div>

[Nacire]

<div></div><p>With my pet having a barely visible sliver of red left after an aoe hit in an xp grp I did a grp heal and noticed the hit to him was a lil over 800.  This is at lvl 60 with no buffs other than our always on grp buffs.  When I solo with him I use my extra conc slot to toss Foretellilng on him, and he gets Avatar instead of me.  Most likely then he'd have considerably higher hp but still TERRIBLY low.  He's not a tank.  And at least now while I have none of the aa's that boost him he's barely a dps improvement.</p><p>When I solo with dogdog I have him buffed as mentioned above and as soon as the mob is in range to melee I swing around it so that the puppy is on it's rear so mobs can't dodge/parry/block/riposte his hits.  And even like that he don't really add up to a single cast of one of our dots as far as the damage output goes.  He hits slow and not all that hard.  He is better than nothing, and I lub him anyways, but he's not terribly useful YET.  Some of the achievements may change that.</p>