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Cercs
01-30-2006, 01:42 AM
<div>I am a level 26 Mystic with all app4's and some adept1's. I have my full AQ and in the other slots some fairly nice items from quests. I have 1,366 HP and 1,1020 Power and all of my buffs are up (Ursine Elder is even Adept 1). I solo a level 24 down arrow bear in TS, but at the end of the fight I havea bout 30% power and maybe 95% health. A level 25 down arrow bear I can do, but about all of my power is gone with maybe 10% left. What exactly, if anything, am I doing wrong?</div><div> </div><div>I pull the mob by casting 2 of my best debuffs. I then open up with an HO and a cast Cold Flame (I think it is called that) DoT and Miasma (another DoT). I finish the HO with Grey Winds and repeat the HO with Grey Winds. During this, I am on auto attack. No arrows or a white down arrow I usually go OOP at the mob's 25% health and just wait on DoTs and finish it off with auto attack. By the end of the fight I have somewhere around 50% health.</div><div> </div><div>Am I doing anything wrong? If not, will this improve by level? I can currently only solo green or blue down arrow's without going OOP.</div>
Slinkie
01-30-2006, 02:21 AM
<div>It sounds like you are going from HO to HO fairly rapidly. When I soloed a decent amount with my mystic (which I don't do much anymore) the fight generally took awhile, but I had power and health left when I was done. I think that the trick is to keep your ward up and outlast the mob, especially if you are fighting one that is challenging. We will never be damage machines, and won't kill quickly like a fury does. We're just stubborn.:smileytongue:</div><div> </div><div>One other thing that you can do is to keep lower level spells on a page of your hotbar. If you start to run lower on power, you can complete an HO by using Smite or another lower level spell. This can, at times, make the difference. You should find that you can solo white ^ and sometimes yellow ^ (depending on the configuration of the fight) reasonably well. Of course, on the harder fights you WILL be oop by the end, more than likely.</div><div> </div><div>Rudhi</div><div>53 mystic</div>
Nacire
01-30-2006, 03:05 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Cercsij wrote:<div>I am a level 26 Mystic with all app4's and some adept1's. I have my full AQ and in the other slots some fairly nice items from quests. I have 1,366 HP and 1,1020 Power and all of my buffs are up (Ursine Elder is even Adept 1). I solo a level 24 down arrow bear in TS, but at the end of the fight I havea bout 30% power and maybe 95% health. A level 25 down arrow bear I can do, but about all of my power is gone with maybe 10% left. What exactly, if anything, am I doing wrong?</div><div> </div><div>I pull the mob by casting 2 of my best debuffs. I then open up with an HO and a cast Cold Flame (I think it is called that) DoT and Miasma (another DoT). I finish the HO with Grey Winds and repeat the HO with Grey Winds. During this, I am on auto attack. No arrows or a white down arrow I usually go OOP at the mob's 25% health and just wait on DoTs and finish it off with auto attack. By the end of the fight I have somewhere around 50% health.</div><div> </div><div>Am I doing anything wrong? If not, will this improve by level? I can currently only solo green or blue down arrow's without going OOP.</div><hr></blockquote>Start by casting grp ward while still outside of combat, then pull with grp stamina + resist debuff and if a single mob follow with single target stamina debuff, then start HO and trigger with the disease dot (takes longer to tick so wanna give it more time to be running), then complete ho with cold dot. Autoattack is really optional and won't matter much unless you have a weapon proc. If dots fade and mob is still kicking (usually takes two rounds) don't worry bout the last few ticks on disease dot, just single ward self then trigger another HO and do the same way as before, disease first, then cold.
Nacire
01-30-2006, 03:08 AM
<div></div><p>Left out a few things. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>NEVER, EVER, EVER cast our single nuke if power is gonna be any sort of issue. Burns way too much for almost no damage. Dots only when yer solo'n they are very efficent for power burned.</p><p>Don't bother keeping stamina debuffs active, once you've damaged the mob putting them back on is pointless they are to drop the mobs max hp before you've hurt it. The exception being our grp sta debuff since it also loweres resists, but even that's usually optional.</p>
Moonspinn
01-30-2006, 03:16 AM
<p>I used rare imbued wands alot when I leveled up. Usually pulled with stamina/resists debuff, then opened with the dot HO combo, then used wand, rinse repeat warding when necessary. By the time the wand cast was finished I was ready for another dot HO. Some might say this really doesn't save time in the long run, because with appropriate drink down time between fights is minimal anyway, but wands have saved me more times than I can count when I've pulled something ambitious or gotten adds.</p><p>Wand/shield was the only non treasured stuff I had until level 40 and I even used fir through my 30s. I got ebon chest/legs and cedar wand/shield at level 40 and boy did I feel indestructible.</p>
Cercs
01-30-2006, 03:38 AM
<div><div>I forgot to mention that while the mob is on its way to me I put up my ward (or master 2 group ward depending on toughness).</div><div> </div><div>White and yellow ^'s? How is this possible? The big thing for me is not survivability, but rather power. I end fights in nearly full health. The techniques given is similar to what I actually do, minus the minor DD's like smite to finish an HO which I need to try.</div><div> </div><div>The lack of soloing and all of the graphical errors for barbarians has made me consider rerolling numerous times, but I never do because I love being a Mystic. Glad to know that (somehow) I can sollo white and yellow up arrows.</div></div>
Baccalarium
01-30-2006, 07:24 AM
<div></div><p>I thought that when the big healer balance/combat update occured they changed HO's so that using lower level spells to activate an HO caused the HO to have a lesser effect. </p><p>I can't remember what specific abilities I used at those levels, but HO starter and which ever dot or smite have refreshed to trigger it has been commonplace. Dots preferred if they are available. Preward before the pull when soloing as the power cost is usually recoverd by out of combat regen before you actually get the pull done.</p><p> </p><p> </p>
tebion
01-30-2006, 02:45 PM
<div></div><div><span><blockquote><hr>Cercsij wrote:<div><div>I forgot to mention that while the mob is on its way to me I put up my ward (or master 2 group ward depending on toughness).</div></div><hr></blockquote>here is where you do a mistake, cast your groupward (and if its a tough mob, the single ward afterwards) BEFORE you aggro the mob. That means that you get one or two extra-ticks of out of combat mana regeneration before you engage -> more mana during the fight.With wards up before the fight you can debuff the mob properly before you have to thikn about healing again, that makes the fight alot easier.otherwise completely agree with Nacireen, especially on never ever use your nukes when mana is an issue. keep the dots up on the mob and tank him until he is down.<span><span></span></span></span><a href="../view_profile?user.id=94187" target="_blank"><span></span></a></div>
Slinkie
01-30-2006, 06:35 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>Baccalarium wrote:<div></div><p>I thought that when the big healer balance/combat update occured they changed HO's so that using lower level spells to activate an HO caused the HO to have a lesser effect. </p><p>I can't remember what specific abilities I used at those levels, but HO starter and which ever dot or smite have refreshed to trigger it has been commonplace. Dots preferred if they are available. Preward before the pull when soloing as the power cost is usually recoverd by out of combat regen before you actually get the pull done.</p><p> </p><p> </p><hr></blockquote>This is true, but when power is an issue, a less-effective HO is generally still better than not being able to complete an HO.</span><div></div>
Thandi
01-31-2006, 10:30 PM
<div>When soloing what weapons are preffered? I currently carry a 1h+shield (crush) and also a 2h (crush) would it make a difference if I switch out to pierce? or slash (if we can use slash)?</div><div> </div><div>Just seems that my dps with the crush is kinda low, and I have checked for new weapons, but just dont wanna invest alot into weapons until I reach lvl 20+, or should I keep weapons up to par?</div>
Slinkie
02-01-2006, 01:03 AM
My mystic has never used anything other than a crushing weapon. With my fighter alts, I keep all weapon skills up but it just never seemed to be as important for my mystic (probably bad of me, I know). I VERY rarely use a 2h, and only if the stats are wonderful. It is rare to find a 2h weapon with as good of stats as a 1h + shield. We will never do an amazing amount of melee damage, so I go strictly for overall stats, and the added protection of a nice buckler.If you can afford to buy, or spend the time to harvest, a piece of rare wood at each tier an imbued buckler generally has very nice stats. I currently use an imbued ironwood wand as well, but am honestly not sure I would be doing so if I didn't have a woodworker friend. The 9 second casting time on the wand makes it something that I only very rarely use. I might as well have a nice hammer or something.Rudhi53 mysticEverfrost server<div></div>
Nacire
02-01-2006, 05:21 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Slinkie wrote:My mystic has never used anything other than a crushing weapon. With my fighter alts, I keep all weapon skills up but it just never seemed to be as important for my mystic (probably bad of me, I know). I VERY rarely use a 2h, and only if the stats are wonderful. It is rare to find a 2h weapon with as good of stats as a 1h + shield. We will never do an amazing amount of melee damage, so I go strictly for overall stats, and the added protection of a nice buckler.If you can afford to buy, or spend the time to harvest, a piece of rare wood at each tier an imbued buckler generally has very nice stats. I currently use an imbued ironwood wand as well, but am honestly not sure I would be doing so if I didn't have a woodworker friend. The 9 second casting time on the wand makes it something that I only very rarely use. I might as well have a nice hammer or something.Rudhi53 mysticEverfrost server<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>Great advice and the rare woods are usually not as expensive as other rares of the same tier. If yer buying that is...</p><p>Also for the above poster I would STRONGLY recommend you back up a bit, hit Feerrott and do the Screaming Mace heritage. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> If you aren't gonna be raiding where you can get a prismatic of either variety the the SM beats anything else I've seen for preists HANDS DOWN. Nice stats, only decays 5% on each death, AND the proc is a preist's dream. On those occasions where you can melee it will usually proc enough to return many times more power than you would have regened from wielding a prismatic for it's regen. Now if you aren't swinging it then the proc does no good but when you can, it's NICE.</p><p>And there's the little point that it's free. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Be prepared to camp those names though sometimes it can take a while, but MORE than worth it. I'm approaching full t6 fabled now, do have prismatic 1.0 and I will still swap in that SM for tough solo fights or any mobs with no aoe when power is dropping too fast.</p>
thedu
02-01-2006, 10:43 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Nacireen wrote:<div></div><p>Great advice and the rare woods are usually not as expensive as other rares of the same tier. If yer buying that is...</p><p>Also for the above poster I would STRONGLY recommend you back up a bit, hit Feerrott and do the Screaming Mace heritage. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> If you aren't gonna be raiding where you can get a prismatic of either variety the the SM beats anything else I've seen for preists HANDS DOWN. Nice stats, only decays 5% on each death, AND the proc is a preist's dream. On those occasions where you can melee it will usually proc enough to return many times more power than you would have regened from wielding a prismatic for it's regen. Now if you aren't swinging it then the proc does no good but when you can, it's NICE.</p><p>And there's the little point that it's free. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Be prepared to camp those names though sometimes it can take a while, but MORE than worth it. I'm approaching full t6 fabled now, do have prismatic 1.0 and I will still swap in that SM for tough solo fights or any mobs with no aoe when power is dropping too fast.</p><hr></blockquote>I'm still working on the SM, but I would definitely agree that this 1h is more achievable then the hammer of the Godking. I currently have the scepter of rahotep equipped, and so far happy with it, but of course would like something better. I also stopped using 2h a long time ago -- they just never produced anything worthwhile when I compared stats with 1h and shield combo; and now 1h, shield, and secondary.
Slinkie
02-01-2006, 04:43 PM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>thedump wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Nacireen wrote:<div></div><p>Great advice and the rare woods are usually not as expensive as other rares of the same tier. If yer buying that is...</p><p>Also for the above poster I would STRONGLY recommend you back up a bit, hit Feerrott and do the Screaming Mace heritage. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> If you aren't gonna be raiding where you can get a prismatic of either variety the the SM beats anything else I've seen for preists HANDS DOWN. Nice stats, only decays 5% on each death, AND the proc is a preist's dream. On those occasions where you can melee it will usually proc enough to return many times more power than you would have regened from wielding a prismatic for it's regen. Now if you aren't swinging it then the proc does no good but when you can, it's NICE.</p><p>And there's the little point that it's free. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Be prepared to camp those names though sometimes it can take a while, but MORE than worth it. I'm approaching full t6 fabled now, do have prismatic 1.0 and I will still swap in that SM for tough solo fights or any mobs with no aoe when power is dropping too fast.</p><hr></blockquote>I'm still working on the SM, but I would definitely agree that this 1h is more achievable then the hammer of the Godking. I currently have the scepter of rahotep equipped, and so far happy with it, but of course would like something better. I also stopped using 2h a long time ago -- they just never produced anything worthwhile when I compared stats with 1h and shield combo; and now 1h, shield, and secondary.<hr></blockquote>I'm definitely enjoying that ranged slot item addition. One of my alts is a level 60 jeweler, so I can easily use very nice crafted items for the slot if I don't get a good dropped or quested item.
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