Planning out Spells 40+??

[Musashi-]

I have a friend playing a shaman and she was wondering how to plan out her spells from 40+. We mostly group together so not much soloing.  What spells should she plan on going adept III or master with and what spells should she just keep adept I and what skills should she take the Master II of? I appreciate your help!! Also how should she plan her armour.. player made or is there some good drops out there that dont require raids to get. <div></div>

[Banditman]

Avatar, Chimerik, Dreadful Lethargy, Runic Talisman. There is too much good gear out there to even try to plan for, just play the game and you'll run across it.

[salto]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Banditman wrote:<BR>Avatar, Chimerik, Dreadful Lethargy, Runic Talisman.<BR><BR>There is too much good gear out there to even try to plan for, just play the game and you'll run across it.<BR><BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>No mention of Enlightened healing?  I just scrounged a rare and was going to have this made adept III, should I reconsider?

[Banditman]

How long do you plan to be in the 46-59 range? More importantly, how long do you expect to be in the 46 - 54 range? If you are simply pushing to 60 as fast as possible, I would hold off on Enlightened Healing.  You get a chance to choose a M2 ST Ward at L54, and I think you can take a G Ward at 44.  You might even get the ST Ward at 44, dunno, been too long for me. Anyway, the point with the 4 spells I pointed out to you there is that they are NEVER replaced.  So, the Ad3 spent on those spells will NEVER be wasted. For a grind type situation, Adept 1's work just fine in all cases.  It's when you get into the challenging raid content that Adept 3's become more important. Look, you can NEVER go wrong choosing to make a heal Adept 3.  I'm simply trying to show you some of the less obvious things that will happen to you between L46 and the level cap. Enlightened Healing is a great choice.  However, in grinding to L60, I found that I rarely needed it.  Wards did more than enough work, and Torpor at 53 *really* takes away the pain.

[Thatdumbg]

I totally agree with Bandit. In xping from 50 to 60, I found that it was very seldom that I actually had to cast enlightened healing, especially once I received torpor. <div></div>

[Eepop]

I have a sage and and alchemist, so my cost for making adept 3s was relatively low.  So I made quite a few, including both heals. I am a person thats not grinding hard toward 60. Even still, one thing to consider is what is the difference is heal power with Enlightened Healing Adept 3 and the T6 (Learned Healing is it?) version at appr 1. If the raw Hp, or even the hp/power is better with enlightened healing, you can stand to opt out of buying the appr4/adept 1 of the T6 version until you can afford a pearl/vanadium.  Its a small savings of money but it does offset some of the cost of the ruby. The cheapest Pearls/Vanadium are going for 4-8 times what a ruby does on my server. I upgraded Enlighted Healing and Rejuvinating Chant as  I was leveling through so I had them to scribe right away upon leveling.  I feel that they have got plenty of use for me anyway. <div></div>

[Banditman]

No App 1's in T6.  With Learned Healing, don't expect to get an Adept 1 either.  I've never seen one drop or for sale.  You're pretty much stuck with either App 4 or Adept 3.The difference in Ad 3 EH vs LH . . . 900 EH, 1400 LH max (rough numbers).But, as has been said, Torpor is head and shoulders above EH in effectiveness.

[Eepop]

<span><blockquote><hr>Banditman wrote:No App 1's in T6.  With Learned Healing, don't expect to get an Adept 1 either.  I've never seen one drop or for sale.  You're pretty much stuck with either App 4 or Adept 3. <font color="#ff0000">Well then, how adept 3 Enlightened Healing compares to Learned Healing at Appr4. If the difference isnt that big, using the ruby for EL buys you some time to find the T6 rare. </font>The difference in Ad 3 EH vs LH . . . 900 EH, 1400 LH max (rough numbers). <font color="#ff0000">T6 rares also cost 4-8 times what a T5 one does.  If you can get by with ad3 EH until you can find a rare to make LH, you are doing good.  You may not be able to get by not having LH (while you look for rare) with EH at only appr4 or adept 1.</font><hr></blockquote><font color="#ff0000">So basicly, EH can be useful to upgrade in certain situations, but only after you've made accomodations to upgrade the spells that dont get replacements in T6.  </font></span><div></div>

[Banditman]

On my server the number is not anywhere CLOSE to 8 times.  Its more like about two to three.  80g - 1.2 plat for a ruby, 2.5 - 3 plat for a pearl.Again, until you've experienced what Torpor does you simply can't understand.It's just that good.

[paisan]

<DIV>Once you have Torpor you can <U>almost</U> take your direct heals off your bar. Not only is it a really good regenerating ward/heal it is also on a seperate timer which makes it even better. When things get crazy and i am healing i still rarely cast a direct heal nor have the time to do so. Between the ST ward, Torpor, Groupward and badger thats all the healing i 99.99% need now that wards are stacking. Direct heals are mainly useful to me in raids. Forget the rare on em untill you have a surplus of them. </DIV>

[salto]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> Banditman wrote:<BR><BR>Again, until you've experienced what Torpor does you simply can't understand.<BR><BR>It's just that good.<BR><BR><BR> <HR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> paisan wrote:<BR> <DIV>Once you have Torpor you can <U>almost</U> take your direct heals off your bar. Not only is it a really good regenerating ward/heal it is also on a seperate timer which makes it even better.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>When I see an abundance of statments like this I become extremely uneasy.  Is Torpor too good for the devs to allow it to stay in the game as it is now?  Do any of the other priest classes have a comperable spell?  If not, I fear that were going to be seeing the nerf bat and soon.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><U>IF</U>  it does get nerfed, then planning my whole healing regime around Torpor does'nt seem prudant.  Therefore, personally, I decided to use the rare I found to upgrade Enlightened healing to adept III, and if Torpor hasn't been changed by the time I get to 54, then at least it will help me in group situation for the next 7 levels or so.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Message Edited by salto on <span class=date_text>12-03-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:42 AM</span>

[Banditman]

The Devs are well aware of how good it is.  In group situations, grinding to 60, its great.  However, once you are at the endgame and raiding you'll find that it's less important.Just accept that Torpor really is that good, it's really gonna stay that good and once you get to L60, you'll have even better tools.