New level 50 mystic spells

[Vindale]

<img src="http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/2025/mystic50spells8bi.jpg"><div></div>

[Vindale]

I think we kinda got some [Removed for Content] skills =/ <div></div>

[Nacire]

Woot!  I sooo missed Torpor from eqlive. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Other 2 don't look half bad either.  I'm actually impressed.

[FelixDomesticus]

Torpor was never so popular in Eqlive due to its effect of slowing down target A LOT. It was cost effective spell between fights, but deadly in actual fight. And 15 second effect in other spell? Hellooooo??? <div></div>

[tebion]

<span><blockquote><hr>FelixDomesticus wrote:Torpor was never so popular in Eqlive due to its effect of slowing down target A LOT. It was cost effective spell between fights, but deadly in actual fight. And 15 second effect in other spell? Hellooooo??? <div></div><hr></blockquote>then you only played from pop on .. in kunark and velious torpor was THE healing spell in EQ1 <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> too bad they changed it to ingroup-only, hehe, was fun torporing swarmkiting bot-bards <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div>

[Arfiniel]

<P>THANK YOU so much for posting these screenshots...</P> <P>Anyone have 51-60 screenshots to post, now that the NDA has been lifted?  I would love to see what we're in for, in the future.</P> <P>Also, screenshots of any pre-50 spells that have changed.  I can't believe no mystics in testing have posted this yet.</P> <P>Thanks,</P> <P>Flidais, 50 Mystic</P> <p>Message Edited by Arfiniel on <span class=date_text>08-21-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:19 AM</span>

[vicario]

<P><SPAN>FelixDomesticus:</SPAN></P> <P>Torpor was never so popular in Eqlive due to its effect of slowing down target A LOT. It was cost effective spell between fights, but deadly in actual fight. And 15 second effect in other spell? Hellooooo???</P> <DIV>---------------------------------------------------------------</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To me it's a spell used on a tank since the tank doesn't really need to do a lot of damage - just keep aggro by taunting and occasionally hit.</DIV>

[Nacire]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> FelixDomesticus wrote:<BR>Torpor was never so popular in Eqlive due to its effect of slowing down target A LOT. It was cost effective spell between fights, but deadly in actual fight. And 15 second effect in other spell? Hellooooo???<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Then I'm guessing you were one of the shaman that complained we couldn't main heal.  Either that or you never played one.  Torpor rocked for those after fight heals OR in combat healing a stupid dps that took agro for a second.  Also rocked for solo'n since very little of our damage was the melee output anyways.  Not to mention that in this system melee haste and slow has a negligable effect anyways, it won't affect cast or recast times on taunts and other specials.

[FelixDomesticus]

<span><blockquote><hr>tebion wrote:<span>then you only played from pop on .. in kunark and velious torpor was THE healing spell in EQ1 <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> too bad they changed it to ingroup-only, hehe, was fun torporing swarmkiting bot-bards <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div><hr></blockquote>Yes, I started Eqlive quite late. Ah, the old tricks... Like the one where someone had some disagreement against some monk in a group. After death he took a quick visit to bank and took 30k copper with him. When monk did next pull he did split and monk almost stopped to his tracks. It was an easy job for the mob monk pulled...</span><div></div>

[Monr]

<P>I missed torpor too, and am pretty pleased its back. However, It's main funtion in eqlive, due to the slowing effect, was between fights. Between fight heals, due to the quick regen, isn't as needed. Or if it is, typically a direct heal would still be preferable, since the power used to cast it for yourself is pretty minute, again due to the regen.</P> <P>They should dump the slow effect due to the mechanics of EQ2. </P>

[icetower]

<P>Assuming it stacks with wards, torpor seems ok. Obviously the attack speed decrease will annoy the tank.</P> <P>I'm more bothered with the regen on the ward protective spirits. IMO secondary effects which are dependent on the ward staying up are pretty worthless, due to the likelihood of the ward getting smacked down fairly quickly.</P>

[Banditman]

Torpor, as well as it's lower level cousin from the Ykesha expansion worked fine for healing in fights, you just had to be sure that someone was snaring the mob. Torpor now, Quiescence in 6 months!  (wouldn't that be nice). Attack speed decrease is hardly important to a tank.  In fact, the less often they attack the better.

[Daemoon]

No quick conclusion we only have the app1 stats, we could still dream about a lesser slow reduction and better heal on adept 1/3 Master <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[Homj]

<blockquote><hr>Banditman wrote: Attack speed decrease is hardly important to a tank. In fact, the less often they attack the better. <hr></blockquote>Hmm... why? When you raiding and MT is a guardian(usually) - attack speed is less important. But other tanks using they damage to generate more heat, and attack speed is more important for them.

[vicario]

<DIV>IMO their taunts cause more hate and also some raid mobs reposte - basically when the tank hits the mob, the mob retorts with a massive amount of damage where if they taunt more and attack less the less damage the tank gets (think that made sense).  </DIV>

[Banditman]

Ripostes are definitely a nasty, nasty problem. Remember, these spells balance into the new combat system, not the one you are playing under now. Auto attack damage from a tank is pretty much negligible under the new system.  90+ percent of their aggro is generated by arts.

[FelixDomesticus]

<span><blockquote><hr>Nacireen wrote: Then I'm guessing you were one of the shaman that complained we couldn't main heal.  Either that or you never played one.  Torpor rocked for those after fight heals OR in combat healing a stupid dps that took agro for a second.  Also rocked for solo'n since very little of our damage was the melee output anyways.  Not to mention that in this system melee haste and slow has a negligable effect anyways, it won't affect cast or recast times on taunts and other specials. <div></div><hr></blockquote>I started game quite late compared to several other persons here who saw even the basic Eqlive. And all groups warned me not to use torpor in fights due to slowing effect. I never saw a shaman who could main heal btw. Not in latest expansions anyway. Getting best healing spells needed a group to areas where you could not get group unless you had those spells already...</span><div></div>

[Banditman]

Shaman could not MH in current content, they were however the kings of trivial content.