View Full Version : Omen, Auspice junk
BonesMandu
05-18-2005, 07:58 PM
<DIV> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Mystic 31 here,</FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>I see Auspice and Omen as junk, even at Adept 3 lvl they seem to not be needed because the benefits of other Spells and Potions out weigh or out balance them AND there two concentrations. So before I completely remove this Entire line of spells from my HotBare I’m curious as to if I’m missing something?, other then grouped with another Mystic...</FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>thanks</FONT></P></DIV>
disru
05-18-2005, 08:49 PM
You're dead on. They're a waste of hotbar space <div></div>
Banditman
05-18-2005, 09:10 PM
Let me preface my remarks by saying that they do NOT provide value commensurate with their associated costs. Two CP's for a single target? For that sort of cost we should be talking about a spell that buffs in excess of 600 HP. (I'm looking at the top of the line here, Prophecy). However, I have found uses for the spell in raid situations. When grouped with other healers, our buffs don't always fully stack. So, for instance, if I'm facing a mob that I know isn't going to do any Noxious damage, I can drop Eidolic Mettle and Prophetic Shield for Prophesy on the MT to pump him up a little. Since there are two other Priests in the group who can still hold those particular lines up, I've gained my MT a few extra HP, and who can argue with that. Still, when you look at the buffs other healers are able to put on a single target, many without CP at all, you can't help but say that this line of spells is overly costly. I would say that this buff should be turned into a buff like Avatar currently is . . . single target toggle-able with a 15 minute duration. That would certainly be a fair and reasonable way to deal with this spell line. <div></div>
t3h_m0nopOl1z
05-19-2005, 12:57 AM
<DIV>Don't forget the spell Prophecy.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The toggleable no-concentration solution I think sounds about right.</DIV>
Hadji
05-19-2005, 06:27 PM
<P><FONT size=3>I am not sure if it does anything, but I put prophecy on when I am tradeskilling, dropping the buffs that don't add HP/Power. </FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3>Frellya</FONT></P>
disru
05-19-2005, 08:43 PM
It's best to craft with no buffs at all on. Each craft skill/reaction consumes a % of power, not a set number (e.g. power at 2000 with a skill that consumes 20% = 400, power at 1000 with a skill that consumes 20% = 200). Your hp/power regen, however, does not change, you always recover the same amount reguardless of the size of your maximum. So, basically you will get your hps/power back faster while not spending as much on craftskills with out any buffs on at all. I believe bandit has brought this up before. <div></div>
Banditman
05-19-2005, 08:47 PM
Twice. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>
Eepop
05-19-2005, 10:05 PM
<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> disrupt wrote:<BR>It's best to craft with no buffs at all on.<BR><BR>Each craft skill/reaction consumes a % of power, not a set number (e.g. power at 2000 with a skill that consumes 20% = 400, power at 1000 with a skill that consumes 20% = 200). Your hp/power regen, however, does not change, you always recover the same amount reguardless of the size of your maximum. So, basically you will get your hps/power back faster while not spending as much on craftskills with out any buffs on at all.<BR><BR>I believe bandit has brought this up before.<BR><BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Thats slightly misleading. It is best not so much to have no buffs, but instead to have the lowest powerpool possible. So if a buff doesnt have power (or +wis) theres no harm in having it on.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In fact certain buffs, such as a druid's verdure buff can be very nice when tradeskilling.</DIV>
Eepop
05-19-2005, 10:06 PM
Don't forget to get naked too if you really want to min-max tradeskilling.
Loral
05-19-2005, 10:55 PM
Naked, no power buffs exept power regen buffs, with the best drink for your level. And all the power regen trait/traditions/skills you can grab. Group with an Enchanter friend to grab his Breeze <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <p>Message Edited by Loralor on <span class=date_text>05-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:56 AM</span>
Solat
05-26-2005, 04:46 PM
<P>Actually i found a use for omen last night.</P> <P>Was grouped with a higher level mystic-so dropped my ursine oracle and put omen on both of us. Kept runic shield on since mines at adept 3 and adds 410 mitigation to the party vs all physical.</P> <P>Use? When we both tapped our manastones at the end of a fight we basicly almost insta healed before the next pull.</P> <P>Sides that...useless...I feel the spells should be group affecting for two conc or have no conc and be on a shorter timer.</P> <P>Naek</P>
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