Thanks for nothing

[rubyg]

<DIV>It's to bad I was bored while waiting for the servers to come up. I foolishly thought perhaps I could get some class tips and uber advice or innovative ideas about the various ways to play my Mystic. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Instead, what I received was a pristine perfect dunce cap all because I didn't know how pitiful my chosen class is. I can't imagine why I was having any fun out there!  So far I have learned how truely worthless my wards are, how tiny and mana intensive my heals are, and how my slows are hardly worthwhile in the scheme of things.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for your "help" ... </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[highlighter]

<P>Haha!  I wouldnt worry about what you read on these boards.  Also, If you look hard enough you will find several useful threads on how to play your Mystic.</P> <P>Take what you read with a grain of salt, many people post out of anger.  Some are just set in their ways of thinking.  I love playing my mystic and have been trying to be the anti-whiner with little success.  If you like playing your Mystic then play and enjoy, if you feel you have short-comings play a different class.</P> <DIV>I would go through and pick out the good threads but im not in the mood.  Im hoping the servers will go back online so I can go back to making my Jewerly!</DIV>

[Terq]

<P>I don't think that anyone here would tell you that a mystic is a pitiful class, at least not anyone with a thought out opinion.  Most people that I see really enjoy playing their mystic.  I think my mystic is great.  </P> <P>That said, there are some issues that need to be worked out, and there are some imbalances between class specific heals.  </P> <P>The mystic is a great class, and offers a rewarding (not re-warding) and challenging path of keeping groups alive.</P> <P>I hope that you aren't too discouraged, simply because we want to get these imbalances cleared.</P>

[thedu]

I've been playing the Mystic class since I first started on EQ2. The problems associated with it aren't any less or anymore then those with several of the other classes.  Either you skimmed through or did not read completely many of the threads available, because highligting problems isn't the same as saying that being a mystic is unusable, or unplayable. If you have been enjoying playing a mystic and have had no issues so far then why be so easily persuaded by few that you shouldn't play? <i>"Thanks for the "help""</i> Maybe instead looking at it so negatively why not look at it positively see that what is most effective in a situation, whether it's a slows, wards, etc. <div></div>

[Scrav]

<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>rubygem wrote:<div></div> <div>It's to bad I was bored while waiting for the servers to come up. I foolishly thought perhaps I could get some class tips and uber advice or innovative ideas about the various ways to play my Mystic. </div> <div> </div> <div>Instead, what I received was a pristine perfect dunce cap all because I didn't know how pitiful my chosen class is. I can't imagine why I was having any fun out there!  So far I have learned how truely worthless my wards are, how tiny and mana intensive my heals are, and how my slows are hardly worthwhile in the scheme of things.</div> <div> </div> <div>Thanks for your "help" ... </div> <div> </div> <div> </div><hr></blockquote>Perhaps next time we will try and use some prerecognition abiltiies and prepare some posts in advance just for you. This silly emotional outburst of yours is pointless.  There are useful posts out there with useful tips.  You could have even made your own post asking for tips or whatever.  Instead you make this post complaining that you read about issues you wish you never knew about.  You need to realise the world doesn't revolve around your desires. The Mystic class does have issues, but as many have just said, it doesn't cripple us.</span><div></div><p>Message Edited by Scrav on <span class=date_text>03-21-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:02 PM</span>

[rubyg]

<DIV>I'd like to leave this thread with these last comments. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yes, I did read a few threads which led me to believe many people play their mystic despite the weaknesses covered so thoroughly in the many posts I browsed.  No, I didn't read them all, mostly because I didn't want to be robbed of any further enjoyment my ignorance was providing.  Thanks to all who responded.</DIV> <DIV>Though my post was hardly emotional, it may have been both silly and pointless.  After 4 years of EQ, I should totally be used to class balancing arguements and just wait for the nerf bats to start wacking the all the other "overpowered" healer classes.  : )</DIV>

[BigDa]

<P>Whilst I can understand your feelings at having come here and read about all the issues with mystics, if you look at the posts with a little more detachment, there is much to be learned to help your play.</P> <P>Also, if it makes you feel like you are going to be having a hard time and gives you a 'downer' on mystics, then, well (and I am ready to be flamed on this) maybe you should try another class.</P> <P>Personally, if I had known all the frustration I was going to encounter from 20th to 40th, I would have remade a cleric or maybe even a non-healer and put in the effort to catch up my friends rather than stick it out.  I REALLY am not saying this to annoy any other mystics who enjoy them (that argument has been rehashed too much) but, personally, I think I would have had more fun with a class where I wasn't constantly irritated by multiple issues.</P> <P>As it is, I'm simply not playnig much because I don't enjoy it as much as I could - the most fun I've had in EQ2 recently is with a new fighter back on the Isle.</P> <P>So, while this forum may seem a bit depressing, taken with a pinch of salt, at least it provides an honest history of issues encountered by mystics over the last few months.  Read in the correct light it's a very useful board.</P>

[Spag]

<DIV>So there are problems with Mystics/Shaman, things are not working correctly, but if you enjoy your class by all means don't let the boards get you down.  These boards are basically a podium speak out to SOE to get things fixed, many times people are overdramatizing things.  Lets face it, the squeaky wheel gets the oil around here.  I can't be too proud, I have been part of it as well.  In either case, rather than starting a thread like this, why not start a thread titled "How can I make my mystic more effective"  or "In need of some good playing tips"  There are many many good people on this board that absolutely love their mystic and would not trade it for the world.  Many times they get drown out by the rest of us (heh sorry guys).  Any type of "love my mystic could use some tips" would draw them out of the woodwork quick enough.  Hell, I will even start the thread for you.</DIV>

[Banditman]

<P>In fact, if you "ask" for help, many times the people most frustrated are the ones most able to help.  You see, those people know the weaknesses of the Class better than anyone, and can give you a lot of good information on how to get the most out of your character.</P> <P>But, you are welcome for nothing.</P>

[highlighter]

<P>Here we go again......</P> <P> </P> <P>Banditman is correct, Mystic class is beyond hope, quit the game before you get too high as your Shaman.  In fact, I think its about time to settle down have some children and get on with your life, because by that time (kids going to college) Mystics just might be fixed to where you can actually play it.</P>

[Banditman]

<P>Please show me where I said the Mystic class was without hope.  I'd appreciate being able to correct that.</P> <P>However, since I never said it, I won't be needing to correct it.</P>

[highlighter]

<P>Well... with your <U>constant</U> bellyaching not only in the Mystic forum but also the shaman forum its hard to tell otherwise.  And I think people who come here for the first time get that impression.  Do you have nothing good to say?</P> <P>"..many times the people most frustrated are the ones most able to help.  You see, those people know the weaknesses of the Class better than anyone.."</P> <P>Is this really necessary?  I hope your not at work at the moment.  Cause Im sure your boss would love to know that you put more thought into a game then you do your work.  If you are your own boss great!  You should contract work for Sony, cause then maybe youd get something done with our worthless Mystic class.</P>

[Banditman]

<P>My employment situation is none of your concern.  None whatsoever.</P> <P>It is widely known and accepted that where SOE is concerned, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.  In fact, I'm wondering if I'm not making enough noise.</P> <P>Consider for instance the Templars forum.  Their "concerns" are far less Class defining than ours, yet for some reason Devs are consistently reviewing their thread.  Why?  The only thing I can come up with is more traffic.</P> <P> </P>

[highlighter]

<P>Hmm, I guess you could be correct about the traffic thing.  When I played Planetside, the biggest group of whiners with the most population, the New Conglomerate (or whatever it was called) would always complain about the nerfed faction, Vanu Soventery.  And Sony would actually listen, resulting in my faction being nerfed even further.  But the Vanu players were considered the best players in the game (debatable yes, not trying to start a PS discussion), cause we could always pull through using tactics even with the superior numbers that the other factions had.  Yes, playing the Vanu was like taking a game and playing it in Hard mode (I have heard this same analogy being applied to Mystic).  But what is the point in playing a game where you can one shot one kill someone at close range?  That just too easy.  So why not take what you are given, and stop comparing what we have to the other healer types.</P> <P> </P> <P>I guess the next time I get an invite to party, I should say, "Oh you dont want me, I cant handle healing, Im too [Removed for Content]", and they say "but I like Mystics", Ill just have to put them on ignore. (heh, had a similar conversation the other night without putting them on ignore to see what they would say)</P> <P> </P> <P>And please... I could care less about your employment situation. Dont give yourself that much credit.  My point in saying that is you seem to spend alot of time here spamming the boards.</P> <P>And yes, Im comparing a FPS to a RPG, whats good for one type of game isnt always good for the other.  But then again the same could be said about the comparisons between EQ and EQII.  (just adding this incase someone feels the need to point that out)</P>

[Mystiq]

<P>No....thank YOU for nothing, rubygem. Nothing but an obvious flame request with such a ridiculous subject title to this thread.</P> <P>I'll stop now, as I'm not quite as much of a masochist as some of you. I would prefer threads like these to sink into oblivion so that people actually seeking help, and those that seek to help them, don't have to bother skimming over as much garbage to get to discussions that DO have a point.</P> <P> </P>

[Banditman]

Since you could care less, perhaps not mentioning it at all would be in your best interests.  Perhaps not, your choice.  You bring it up, I'll address it or tell you it ain't your business.  My choice.

[highlighter]

<DIV>Thanks! I aggree with you. I dub thee King (maybe Queen) of the Mystics!  Your word shall be law.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>All must bow to your will!</DIV>

[DejaaVous]

<P>Is there a function to ignore posters?  </P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>(see above)</P>

[thedu]

<span><blockquote><hr>highlighter wrote: So why not take what you are given, and stop comparing what we have to the other healer types. <hr></blockquote> Well, highlighter if your happy with it, then why don't you just stop posting here? </span><div></div>

[obe]

<span><blockquote><hr>DejaaVous wrote:<div></div> <p>Is there a function to ignore posters?  </p> <p>(see above)</p><hr></blockquote>Yep, /addignore Banditman. Works wonders.</span><div></div>

[Spag]

<DIV>Thats funny I really don't see banditman as beeing the one here causing the problems.  His posts are usually insightful one way or another, where as some others tend to resort to sarcasm and insults.  This thread needs to end, the OP probably shot himself long ago.</DIV>

[highlighter]

<P>Thats funny, I was the first to reply to the OP, who is obviously a first time visitor here, being discouraged by what he/she read, brought up some good points on the general subject of the threads on this forus which are filled with negativity.  I told him to go over the post once again because there ARE positive threads on these boards.  Yes maybe the OP did not go about it the "right" way with the title of his/her thread.</P> <P>And I left it at that, I responed to the negative post with a positive comment.</P> <P>But watch out! In comes more negativity with the how dare you post comments like these blah blah.  The final straw was the highly sarcastic post made by Banditman, which I will fail to quote here because if you need to review it, scroll up.  I'm wrong your right. Only the king is allowed to be sarcastic.</P> <P>So yep, bye bye, reply all you want, I'm not allowed to fight fire with fire and get flamed when I do. So please... spam your negative comments all you want.  A Mule can travel a thousand miles, but it will never come back as a horse.</P> <P>-Fin-</P>

[Banditman]

/wave

[Spag]

<P>Your first post was commendable, but I guess its just me but I don't see any sarcasm till I got down to your post about no hope for Mystics.  Now I am not going to go down that road, but there are many more constructive ways to express your point of view.  If you are trying to get people to take you seriously, destroying your credibility is not going to help.  You should try to make your posts more productive.</P> <P> </P> <P>In either case, as I said I would I started a thread for those of you who would like to share any tips for new players.  This way when new people come to the forums, they will see more than just our flaws.  Feel free to add any tips you might have that may be helpful to new players, and please keep the sarcasm out.</P>

[rubyg]

<DIV><FONT color=#6666ff>Thats funny, I was the first to reply to the OP, who is obviously a first time visitor here, being discouraged by what he/she read, brought up some good points on the general subject of the threads on this forus which are filled with negativity.  I told him to go over the post once again because there ARE positive threads on these boards.  Yes maybe the OP did not go about it the "right" way with the title of his/her thread.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wow ... you are so correct. I am a first time visitor, and yes I was discouraged.  I decided to drop in today, and was I ever surprised to read additional comments. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>First, I have never posted to the boards before, so pardon me if I went about saying things the wrong way.  I did not make this post in order to invite or start a flame, but I can see how my title might make it look that way. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for everything.</DIV>