Im sick and tired

[Draxon0]

Of people complaining about our class, saying were not healers this that and the other. I alone main/solo heal entire groups fine, even if our tank pulls multiple encounters. As a matter of fact, most of the time our tank pulls multiples on purpose.  Lets take a look at life for a 50+ fury. The other priests have 2 heals, + thier special heal (ward reactive regen) At 52 we recieve back to the fray, which can heal for up to 1600. NOT Only is it on its own recast timer, BUT it is 1.5s cast 6.5s recast. At 54 we can choose to recieve Untamed Bloodflow Master II if you pick that training 241 points of healing every 2 seconds ( stack that with out 65ish in combat from Mask)  and were looking at 306 Regen. Its like a cleric reactive that doesnt require your tank to be hit. Feral Salve Master 1 - Heals for 512 in 1s Ferine Elixer Master 1 - Heals for 800 - 900 in 2s Back to the Fray Adept 3 - Heals between 700ish to 1600ish depending on if your tank is under 50% hp in 1.5s Untamed Bloodflow Master II - 241 a tick every 2s for 14s When you take these #s and compare them to what some other classes can do over time, we're really not the odd man out on the healing totem.  We're actually darn spiffy. Now lets take a look at our offense Bolt of Storms Adept 3 1000-1650 dmg with 200int Starfire Adept 3 1000-1250 dmg with 200int to unlimited linked targets Just look at those #s. Nuff said -- Furies parsing 300 - 600 dps is a common occurence now, and its only gonna get better as I near 60 Really, it cant be said enough, if youre on here complaining that our class is broken, take a look at your spells. App4? Adept1? Not trying to bring you down, but Combat changes REALLY made adept 3 and master 1's a big deal. I know for some people rares are a little pricey. But since LU13 they have made finding rares a breeze, just yesterday in 30mins I mined 2 pearls and 2 vanadiums, both vanadiums from the same node. While that is a bit lucky, its not impossible, or even hard. Now, take a look at our class BEFORE the changes. We were lowest of low on the heal table. Horrible DPS. Near zero defensive buffs, our only use was to increase melee group dps in a raid. -- Look at us now, Were gonna be seeing furies in the MT group as a common occurence. Have yall SEEN porcupine for heavens sake. I dont speak for the level 20 - 49 furies, as unfortunately I havnt been that level in a LONG time so I dont know. But I know that Furies 50+, with a little bit of work, can be one of the best priest classes around. Draxon 54 Fury -- Fallen Befallen Server <div></div>

[Lego]

<P>Any class with a little bit of work can be the best around.  </P> <P>Most furies I see aren't complaining about heals but more about our offensive abilities.  Which, in lieu of the way mobs work now (stuns, vanquish, not to mention fizzles) is not much of a tradeoff compared to our other healer archetype brethren.  Granted this is pre level 55 where Ring of Fire comes into play.</P> <P>Frankly, the only thing I don't like about the Fury class is the agonizing slow solo ability.  There are work arounds, but stating, get adept 3's, and masters and fableds and you're a champ isn't a practical solution in the least.</P>

[Wryth]

<P>I find soloing with my lvl43 fury a good pace, and quite easy as well. Just for giggles I tried soloing with my lvl33 dirge and had a lot harder of a time doing so. </P> <P>Do you think a dirge can kill ^ White/Yellow solo mobs with little or no downtime? I think not. </P> <P>Be happy with what you have guys, the Fury is an awesome class.</P> <P>Message Edited by Wrython on <SPAN class=date_text>10-05-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>11:03 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Wrython on <span class=date_text>10-05-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:03 AM</span>

[Shirlyn]

Fury may kick [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] after 50....but as a lvl 29 Fury, I have trouble keeping up sometimes with a group. Often times I have to chain heal just ot keep the tank alive, and most of my good heals at this point are AoEs. And if the Tank is doing his/her job, I feel that using an AoE is a waste of mana. Its frustrating. <div></div>

[Tuved2]

And fury and warden healing is balanced how exactly?

[quetzaqotl]

climb up your healing tree

[Dalchar]

<span><blockquote>Tuved2 wrote:And fury and warden healing is balanced how exactly?<hr></blockquote>My understanding is they were going to do away with balancing by archtype since it didn't work and do it by each subclass as a general rule.  Wardens are right now kinda shafted, that's their problem and should be addressed ASAP and I welcome it because I want to see my warden friends succeed..  Wardens problem healing now has relatively little to do with fury healing as drastically different as all 6 priest subclasses seem to be now.</span><div></div>

[catweaver]

<P>I can't agree enough with the OP... I love being a Fury!</P> <P>As far as Wardens being nerfed, I have a friend who's a level 57 warden that as far as I know doesn't have any complaints at all with her healing abilities.</P> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lubij, Ethereal Legacy</DIV> <DIV>57 Fury, Shadowhaven</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by catweaver on <span class=date_text>10-05-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:10 PM</span>

[RedDragon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tuved2 wrote:<BR>And fury and warden healing is balanced how exactly?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I don't know, why don't you post your numbers post 50?</P> <P>Warden's aren't balanced with Furies, they are balanced with ALL of the healing classes. </P> <P>(not saying Wardens are ATM balanced with other healing classes, just how they should be)</P>

[RedDragon]

<BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I dont speak for the level 20 - 49 furies, as unfortunately I havnt been that level in a LONG time so I dont know. But I know that Furies 50+, with a little bit of work, can be one of the best priest classes around.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>That's the thing, Pre "back to the fray" we are stuck with 2 heals which is very harch. I also mentored to below level 32 (where I got my Master II heal) and I was healing extremely poorly with all adept I spells and 1 adept III. BOTV was the best direct heal that I had.</P> <P>I rarely EVER see any master I spells on the broker and when I do they are extremely expensive. People won't spend that amount of money to upgrade something that will be leveled out later on. Now with the new patch, maybe adept III will be more affordable.</P> <P>Back to the Fray should be a spell line druids get from low level or regens should be modified to heal for more if the target is below 50% health.</P> <P><BR> </P> <p>Message Edited by RedDragon44 on <span class=date_text>10-06-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:05 PM</span>

[crypton]

<P>Those of you that are having issues healing solo in groups need to keep in mind there are many factors that can cause this. If your level 29 ( as one of the above posters mentioned he was) pay close attention to what type of mobs your killing and how well suited your group is to killing them. Sometimes at the lower levels groups tend to try mobs a bit out of there range (red/orange mobs) and there Tank and DPS are just not equipt to handle that putting major pressure on the healer, any healer for that matter. Level ranges of players in the 20's, 30's & 40's tend to vary making groups unbalanced.  </P> <P>Look at your tanks gear and Mitigation. Is it up to par ? As healers we need to pay close attention to these types of things and ajust accordingly. I have had times where all I had to do was regen and nuke like mad. Other times I have to go all out heals not even thinking about a nuke. For the most part if a balanced group is fighting yellow + cons the Fury is one of the best healers in the game. I use various stratagies and I always start with "heals only" to evaluate the situation. Obviously when your Fury gets in the 50 + level range there is less of a chance your taking on Mobs to high for you and as a healer your level is not as Important as the MT or The DPS. Your directly healing a group member and you do not have to worry about your spells not landing on a mob. Sure its always nice to be higher level do to the added spells you have but its not nessessary, healers can always be the lowest level in the group and be just fine. If your tank is always within 2 levels of the mobs you fight you should never have problems with the focus on leveling, killing mobs fast, and keeping the tank healed.</P> <P>As a healer you will be the first to know if your group is over matched and you should let the group know that maybe its a good time to try mobs a few levels lower so you can be efficient gaining EXP. Taking 30 + seconds to kill a mob is not good to get you EXP .Steping down a few levels and killing them in 10 seconds is. There are many varitaions to this such as if your group is going after a specific named mob. I always tend to focus on leveling since I Lead a raiding guild, thats always the focus. </P> <P>So if your in a group that says your too low to heal you may want to tell them there to low to tank or make a difference with DPS since they cant hit the mob as often prolonging fights. A good solid group always starts with a tank capable of doing his job, being geared properly, and taking the least amount of damage possible.</P> <P>Falstaff Crypton</P> <P>55 Fury Permafrost Server  </P>

[DarkxLordxBu]

<DIV>Anyone that thinks we have been shafted from the CU is on crack. I left EQ2 in March for WOW. I was around level 40ish, just came back about 2 weeks ago and I think furry's pwn now. Before I left our healing was pure crap. I dont know about you guys but I could never be the main healer in a group and do as well as a Templer or Warden. I mean I could do it but that just becuase I know how to play my class. Our DPS sucked, healing sucked, and buffs sucked. All we had was melee dps buff and SOW.  Now, I can be a main healer in a grp and my DPS is awesome. My girl friend and I can take ^^^ heroic mobs at our level no problem. Before I left that was unheard of. So I just dont get what all this complaining is about.</DIV><p>Message Edited by DarkxLordxBurn on <span class=date_text>10-15-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:15 AM</span>