Lion Form Change!

[Hypreni]

<b>Druid changes:</b> - All forms now cost just a single concentration point. <b>Fury changes:</b> - Peerless Predator, Transcendent Predator, and Incomparable Predator are now single concentration point self buffs that grant increased stamina, agility and see stealth. A bit better than the 3 conc version <span>:smileyhappy:</span> now if they'd only add some mitigation... <div></div>

[Dragonreal]

looks like they're trying to make the different classes' forms actually buff different things vs having them all pretty much the same buff with a different graphic... warden changes for forms are: increase focus, increase see invis, increase mit <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I personally like your changes better since the wolf changes make for better soloing and aren't gonna be much help in a group/raid, whereas the fury changes will help against raid aoes since you'll get increased hp from the sta buff. Not exactly complaining about the changes though; I'm actually glad they've been made into truly different buffs instead of just copies of each other with a different graphic.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Dragonrealms on <span class=date_text>08-31-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:26 PM</span>

[TerminalDogmaCS]

<P>yeah the +186 mitigation of peerless predator was about 6% mitigation for my fury, not a ton but it helps...so we lose that, the +power / health, and the 10% proc...on the other hand, we gain stamina, agility, the see stealth (haven't found a use for this yet) stays the same, and its only one conc. point.</P> <P>I had already started getting used to soloing w/o lion form in preparation, no way that was worth 3 points when my stats were almost as good without it, and I had several other proc buffs, plus imbues...</P> <P>well, it certainly is better than the 3-point madness.</P> <P>Hopefully they'll un-nerf int bonuses too <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>CS</P>

[quetzaqotl]

<P>I HATE this change they made this buff a bland stat buff, If I turn into a lion I would like to see a difference in the way i would operate.</P> <P>This is complete trash of course the stats are nice but wheres the feel to this spell??</P> <P>I can t believe people like this one yeah sta and agi get a lot of increase ok but the idea of the revamped lionspell was MUCH better it was only too pricey with 3 conc slots.</P> <P>They shouldve improved that spell, take 1 conc down  or add some mitig/ac to it and it wouldve been a very cool spell, remember the procs maul hit a lot of times and now we dont have any procs on this buff  we auto attack for 15 dmg and ocassionaly youll proc your prismatci if you have one our auto attacking dmg is VERY sucky now that proc on the lion form made up for some of the [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]ty dmg (meleeing) I can do now.</P> <P>I know most of our dmg doesnt come from auto attacking but from dots/nukes whatever but removing all procs on the lion form is a BIG MISTAKE as it makes the lion form flavourless and boring (I had the feel I had a choice before to put up this spell or not but now its a no brainer again this spell will always be on resulting in no flavour in buffs).</P> <P>In short yes the stat increase is nice but makes the fury class a lot less interesting this is<FONT color=#ffff00> BORING </FONT><FONT color=#ffffff>and I really hope they change it as it is a very sucky and easy way out you guys may think nice stat increase but think about the big picture here what choices do we have for buffs?</FONT></P> <P>Ill put: bloodlust, lion, ferine mask,ferocity of the hunt and vim on its a no brainer at least before I had the idea I would be change buffs for different ocassions but now those buffs will be on my maintained bar forever.</P> <p>Message Edited by quetzaqotl on <span class=date_text>09-01-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:22 AM</span>

[medic]

<P>One thing I've found good use for the see stealth buff portion of this on test is while dueling.  Many scouts have attacks that can only be used while invis, and will try to do their fast invis, run behind ya, and knock your eyes out the front of your head.  Having see stealth drops this down to nothing.  When dueling a scout without this buff and they cast their quick invis or sneak, you lose the target, and can't see them, so you're just hanging out like a sitting duck.  When you've got this buff up, you don't lose target, and you still can see them, so all's it takes is a swing of the mace and their invis is poofed...</P> <P>With the upcoming expansion I think we'll see a much more practical application for this...</P> <P>Just my 2 cp...</P>

[Sunlei]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Hypreni wrote:<BR><BR><B>Druid changes:</B><BR>- All forms now cost just a single concentration point.<BR><BR><B>Fury changes:</B><BR>- Peerless Predator, Transcendent Predator, and Incomparable Predator are now single concentration point self buffs that grant increased stamina, agility and see stealth.<BR><BR>A bit better than the 3 conc version <SPAN>:smileyhappy:</SPAN> now if they'd only add some mitigation...<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>yeahhhh!! back to one con spot!!! now if they would just *GIVE US BACK THE MAUL PROC* sooo we can be REAL LIONS AGAIN <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <P>Keep roaring furys!! unnurf our LIONSSS  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <BR></P>

[CodeKill]

<P>Unfortunately this spell gives good sta and agi, but lacks when it comes to power and protection IMHO. I'm a lvl 45 Fury who has solo'ed most of this toons xp, and I can say compared to others in this game the Fury is the most under powered for a healer and nuker. I don't mind healing, but i love the fighter ability, but the armour class sucks compared to a templar and so do the helas in a way. Hopefully the upgrade patch the changes combat abilities and healing will change my outlook. Most of my spells are Adept 1 and Adept 3, and I use a lot of juice when healing and it seems to do so little at times that others in my grp look and say is that all you got, and I just leave the grp, or you save their [Removed for Content] and you take aggro and the bums don't help even after you die. I've been left to recover my own shard several time and it just pisses me off. If we were better equiped I feel that we would be more respected as grp player then just neat fireworks artists.</P> <P> </P> <p>Message Edited by CodeKiller on <span class=date_text>09-08-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:22 AM</span>