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Formyse
04-20-2005, 04:23 AM
<DIV>I am curious as to what furies use at higher levels? Any input would be appreciated! Do you go for sword and shield or staff or what?</DIV>
In general, and I do this myself, I think many Fury's, unless the staff has such good stats that it warrants using, choose to go with a buckler plus one handed weapon combination. The buckler adds a little bit to defense and tends to have nice power/wisdom stats. As for the one handed weapons, I think it just depends. Slashing weapons are nice because we get a few slash enhancement procs. Plus, some swords like Ghoulbane are really nice for a Fury. One handed hammers and maces, on the other hand, tend to have nice stats on them that make them a good pick too. For level 40 something Fury's, the overwhelming choice of weapons seems to be the Screaming Mace because of its power special effect. <div></div>
i swap between the mace and ykesha's. the first for groups with a cedar buckler, yekesha's with the brass shield for soloing. the proc on the short sword seems really low... but it's *$%#&! quick to swing and that helps. from recollection... aurora's staff of fury, carbonite scimitar & ash buckler, ebon eye war maul, oak buckler & feysteel battlehammer and finally the oakmyst scimitar before t5. i have no idea what's dropping and what quests are giving out these days, so their could be far better stuff now. i see alot of +stat -stat stuff on newer characters. <div></div>
Rumbler
04-20-2005, 12:40 PM
<DIV>I'm a 45 fury. I was parsing a few of my weapons yesterday on greys in Commonlands mostly to see how they affect procs. I wasn't able to conlusively prove it but it feels like my 2handed and slower 1 hand weapson proc more. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Short Sword of Yakesha hits fast but for small damage and seems to hardly ever proc. Melee+Procs only gave me 15dps on greys. It's dual weild so maybe lackign skill in this is why it won't proc often.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Proudfoot morning star was about 35dps. Seems to proc a lot. ie our Fury buff procs go off a lot.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hierophant's Crook was about 50dps. Procs heaps. 19-57 damage at 45 with 9 wis and 68 power its my favourite weapon atm. </DIV> <DIV>This does an AoE proc of about 76-93.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have Withered Totem of Widdershins in my inventory but cant use until 49. Nice stats and a big debuff that I suspect will help now they have made creatures mitigate.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I picked up the Screaming Mace quest yesterday so that may end up as my weapon.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I was very lucky and won a Scaled Scimitar from a master chest yesterday. Its a one handed sword. 1.4 speed with 10-31 damage at 45. I have not attuned it yet as I am considering giving it to a Beserker in my guild. It has a 92-113 proc. I would think a beserker could get a better one hander as they can use great swords as well but would appreciate feedback on long term usefulness of this to Fury vs Beserker. It has 4wis 32 power and other stats.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
Rumbler
04-20-2005, 12:41 PM
<DIV>Oh and you probably need both a sword and a blunt as diferent creatures are more resistant to particular attacks.</DIV>
Bad_Mojo
04-20-2005, 05:06 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Rumbler wrote:<BR> <DIV>I'm a 45 fury. I was parsing a few of my weapons yesterday on greys in Commonlands mostly to see how they affect procs. I wasn't able to conlusively prove it but it feels like my 2handed and slower 1 hand weapson proc more. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Short Sword of Yakesha hits fast but for small damage and seems to hardly ever proc. Melee+Procs only gave me 15dps on greys. It's dual weild so maybe lackign skill in this is why it won't proc often.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Proudfoot morning star was about 35dps. Seems to proc a lot. ie our Fury buff procs go off a lot.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hierophant's Crook was about 50dps. Procs heaps. 19-57 damage at 45 with 9 wis and 68 power its my favourite weapon atm. </DIV> <DIV>This does an AoE proc of about 76-93.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have Withered Totem of Widdershins in my inventory but cant use until 49. Nice stats and a big debuff that I suspect will help now they have made creatures mitigate.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I picked up the Screaming Mace quest yesterday so that may end up as my weapon.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I was very lucky and won a Scaled Scimitar from a master chest yesterday. Its a one handed sword. 1.4 speed with 10-31 damage at 45. I have not attuned it yet as I am considering giving it to a Beserker in my guild. It has a 92-113 proc. I would think a beserker could get a better one hander as they can use great swords as well but would appreciate feedback on long term usefulness of this to Fury vs Beserker. It has 4wis 32 power and other stats.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Proc rates are based on a formula that puts slower weapons in line with faster ones. A faster weapon with a 5% proc rate will actually have less of a chance of proc'ing <EM>per swing</EM> than a slower 5% weapon - This way the average number of proc's over a given time period equals out. I can dig up the formula if you want, it was posted a week or so ago by one of the Dev's... but what I said here is pretty much it in a nutshell, and explains why you see your slower weapon proc more on a hit. <p>Message Edited by Bad_Mojo on <span class=date_text>04-20-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:07 AM</span>
WasFycksir
04-20-2005, 05:25 PM
<DIV>For my 2 hander the Heiro Crook wins hands down for me right now. Just don't use it when mezzing is taking place or you will lose your chanter friends real fast.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For my 1 hand blunt I am using a Pristine Imbued Fulginate Battlehammer (I think, could be mace).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For my 1 hand slash I am using the Short Sword of Ykesha, which is getting sold soon I think, the proc stinks compared to the Imbued stuff. It's low and REARELY goes off.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When using the 1 handers I use a Pristine Imbued Cedar Buckler.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A couple notes on this stuff.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The buckler proc goes off very little but the stats are nice.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Battlehammer was useless against the grey lamia and Varsoon, maybe because it was crafted, because the Deathfist Battlehammer I had at the time worked fine, so it was not a crushing issue.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have been hanging onto the SSOY for just that reason, in case I get another immune issue and I can't use the Crook because of the AE issue.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I did tests yesterday in RV against green/blue stuff down by Shakeys farm and the best DPS I got was using the hammer/shield combo. Using the normal array of spells and HO's I averaged in the 80's for DPS. But my high I got was really nice, using Toxic Quills and with no fizzles and no interupts I got a massive 124.6 DPS on a green hound. Too bad I can only attain that on solo greens every 15 minutes, but it was fun!</DIV>
I'm 35, I use a Pristine Feysteel Imbued Longsword, Dinin is my name on Kithicor if you want to look me up <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.
Tulwin
04-20-2005, 10:37 PM
Be careful buying Pristine Imbued Fulginate weapons they do not hit most named mobs in the game it is not considered a magic weapon. I had to ditch my scim for this reason
Bad_Mojo
04-20-2005, 11:05 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tulwin wrote:<BR>Be careful buying Pristine Imbued Fulginate weapons they do not hit most named mobs in the game it is not considered a magic weapon. I had to ditch my scim for this reason <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>If a mob needs a "magic" weapon to be hit none of the common crafted weapons will work, only those made with the rare harvests. For example, an Ebon Scimitar will be labeled as "Legendary" as opposed to "Handcrafted" and will work just fine <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
sorinev
04-21-2005, 09:29 AM
I've always used a 1 handed crushing weapon and a shield. Currently at 44 I'm using the Moonlight Mace and a crafted Cedar Buckler. I didn't know we could use slashing weapons until about two months after I started playing, ROFL (it's been 4 now). So I suppose I'll get ahold of a sword and work up my slashing just for the heII of it. Once I get a spare ebon, I was thinking of getting an imbued morning star made. Morningstar types are what I understood had the best wisdom bonuses, if not please fill me in. I've never tried two handers, because I could just never bring myself to part with a shield. Most of my time is spent duoing with my 45 Berserker guildmate, so I figure the shield is helpful for those rare times I get aggro. But maybe a two hander is a better idea for a full group situation, where I won't get aggro?
Storb
04-21-2005, 07:21 PM
<DIV>I'm 49 atm and I use Screaming Mace and Pristine cedar buckler.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The proc on the screaming mace is really nice so I don't think I'm gonna use anything else. But if I get the prismatic weapon then I got a combo <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>
Heeroot
04-22-2005, 03:22 PM
<DIV>I have 2 combos I use:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1 Hand: Pristine imbued Ebon Longsword // Pristine Imbued Cedar Buckler-- Dual procs is nice <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV>2 Hand: Heiro Crook</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Once I get 49 and finish the Screaming Mace quest my sword will prolly get bagged even though I love sword weilding <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Makes all the other healing classes so jealous hehe</DIV>
AeshmaAlv
04-23-2005, 07:13 PM
Level 44, and still using Ghoulbane. I got tired of hammers, and I like the sword and buckler look.
Criteri
04-26-2005, 02:53 AM
I just picked up "Nightblood's Smasher" from broker for 5g. Gives +8 stamina and +18 wisdom. I haven't used it yet though, need to ding l38(i'm 37.7 <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)
DragonJ
05-04-2005, 05:53 PM
one of the posts at top mentioned Ghoulbane...I thought Ghoulbane was only for pallys???? I didnt complete the quest because I read that it was a Pally only weapon. Was I misled?? <div></div>
Wizardli
05-04-2005, 06:53 PM
<P>Ghoulbane only requires sword skill to use. So yes Druids can use it. I too thought the same long time ago and opted out of the HQ, luckly the last patch let me rectify that mistake so I was finally able to complete it.</P> <P>As for weapons I use the <A href="http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/items/WitheredTotemofWiddershins.php" target=_blank>http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/items/WitheredTotemofWiddershins.php</A> and Buckler, Crook for soloing mass greenies. Just waiting to finish SM then that will be the weapon of choice.</P> <P>Rowan</P>
Slusher
05-04-2005, 07:25 PM
I'm a 47 Fury and I use The Screaming Mace with a Pristine Cedar Buckler when in groups and when solo I use the Screaming Mace with The Shiny Brass Shield for it's high defense.
Harpax
05-05-2005, 07:42 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> jfood wrote:<BR>i swap between the mace and ykesha's. the first for groups with a cedar buckler, yekesha's with the brass shield for soloing. the proc on the short sword seems really low... but it's *$%#&! quick to swing and that helps.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>One thing to remember with the Ykesha is that its a Duel Wield weapon. Using a single DW weapon and a shield/symbol significantly lowers your Attack rating. You'd be much better off going with a 1h weapon instead of the Ykesha.</DIV>
jbigbe
05-07-2005, 02:17 AM
<DIV>If soloing alot I would go with a scimitar. The damage rating is lower then blunts but most of our damage comes from our procs. Since scimitars have a 1.4 delay your procs will have more of a chance to go off. Also if you have the coin to do so buy some agi gear for soloing. I have mine up to 230 agility buffed and rarely get hit, even when fighting low blue con heroic mobs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just some advice.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Talanthis</DIV> <DIV>Level 49 Half Elf Fury</DIV> <DIV>Permafrost</DIV>
Rumbler
05-07-2005, 12:08 PM
<DIV>Faster weapons don't proc as often. The formula favours slower weapons.</DIV>
the higher agility rating makes it worth swinging though. two agility hex dolls, plus ykesha's and a ruby agility ring and you can solo most city writs. well, we can for the time being... <div></div>
Bad_Mojo
05-07-2005, 06:49 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Rumbler wrote:<BR> <DIV>Faster weapons don't proc as often. The formula favours slower weapons.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Not really... the formula is there to make faster and slower weapons proc (on average) the same amount of times over a set time period.</P> <P>For example, both a faster and slower weapon will both proc once every 3 minutes (making up the time for demonstration) even though you are swinging much more with the faster weapon. Reason? If they didn't do it that way, everyone would grab the fastest proc weapon they could get and those would be the only things being used. Now we can just look at the proc as a set damage/time value as opposed to something that makes fast weapons more desirable than slower weapons.</P>
darkshm
05-12-2005, 02:09 PM
Everything Mojo just said is what I've heard as well. ATM I'm using a two-hander for the extra damage when I'm soloing (plus it looks cool) and one-hand + buckler in groups for the extra power and a tad more staying power with the shield factor in case things go badly. Then again I haven't finished [Removed for Content]' screaming mace yet (baaaah!) - so things'll prolly change when I get it. Also of course w/ upcoming changes slotted to give more importance to wisdom and int, all bets are off. But for now, I love swinging that staff... <div></div>
Tubbycat
05-12-2005, 05:58 PM
I was using the deathfist utility hammer for quite a while until a VERY good friend of mine gave me this scimitar... can't remember the name but it has +1 to subjugation and +3 to ordination on it! I'm sticking with that until I can get the screaming mace I think, with fury damage proc buffs I'm averaging 40-50 dps still so that's alright by me <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Tristesse Sanguinolentus, Draft Dodgers, Everfrost
WasFycksir
05-16-2005, 05:19 PM
<P>On a similar note, do any of you find the Withered Totem of Widdershins useful? I just aquired this staff and I would like to know how good it is from a furies standpoint.</P> <P>It seems with this weapon, both swarms and the intimidation line mobs would take one heck of a debuffing.</P>
Rumbler
05-18-2005, 02:10 AM
<DIV>I really can't tell the Widershins thing is working at all. I've stopped using it and now use my Screaming Mace for the power or Scaled Scimitar for pure dps and stats.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Crook is still my highest DPS but often I can't use it due to the AoE breaking Mez and I prefer to have my shield equipped. My Scimitar also has an AoE proc so most of the time I use Screaming Mace.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Rumbler on <span class=date_text>05-17-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:10 PM</span>
I was never able to tell if Widdershins was working, either. I've been using my Prismatic, and trying to camp the nameds for the Screaming Mace in the free time I have when my guild isn't raiding. Sometimes hard to get that free time. :smileywink:
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